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00:00 < Veggen> mlz: I could not.
00:01 < Veggen> need to roll back.
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00:01 < mlz> hm ok
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00:07 < Veggen> grmf. Or, accept loss of coins.
00:08 < Veggen> seems the easiest now :)
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00:08 < Veggen> didn't work with rollback either...corrupt db?
00:08 < mlz> hey better lose coins on testnet now than mainnet later 
00:09 < Veggen> yah.
00:10 < mlz> this will help you to remember to close out all channels first before an update :D
00:10 < mlz> but when we get the stable release, this won't happen anymore, right roasbeef ?
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00:59 < Veggen> hmm. explorer.acinq.hq down. Now, how am I gonna find some nodes to open channels to... :)
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04:18 < waxwing> with the packaged Lightning-app, do i take it that you need btcd running also? there doesn't seem to be any instructions on how to start it up at lightninglabs/lightning-app
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04:28 < mlz> waxwing, no you don't need btcd running
04:33 < waxwing> mlz, oh; so it's a lite client of some sort?
04:39 < mlz> waxwing, yes it is a light client, it's connected to a node that roasbeef set up if you don't have a btcd running
04:40 < mlz> just for testing
04:40 < waxwing> searching for testnet coins is like rummaging through all the pockets of the old coats you have at the bottom of your wardrobe
04:40 < mlz> lol 
04:40 < mlz> do you need some test coins? post your address and i will send :D
04:41 < waxwing> i've got like 200 or something. but they're all over the place, vps, god knows
04:51 < waxwing> so if you used litecoin with it, it'd be a light client for a lightning app from lightning labs for the lightning network on litecoin
04:54 < mlz> lol     
04:57 < mlz> it would a lightening moment in the lightning network if you use a light litecoin app which is a clone of the lite client made by the lightning labs for the litecoin lightening network which is a subset of the Lightning Network?  lol
04:58 < waxwing> enlightenment achieved
04:59 < waxwing> mlz, do you have a connectable node? or maybe just send me an invoice?
05:00 < mlz> sure sec
05:00 < waxwing> oh ok seems i need to add a channel, so the former
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05:35 < waxwing> i'm trying to pay with the lightning-app (to moli, created a channel directly), but get 'payment route' failure always. any ideas?
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05:50 < waxwing> weird, after restarting a couple of times, i was able to make one payment go through; next attempt i get "failed: UnknownPaymentHash" in the log and 'payment route failure' again.
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07:06 < akihabara> im trying to install a service in linux
07:06 < akihabara> which requires mysql
07:07 < akihabara> i install mysql, i even leave the root passwd black, but when i start the service installation, it returns the error : error 1045 28000 permission denied
07:07 < akihabara> any idea?
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07:25 < aakselrod> mlz and Veggen: lnd master now has the bitcoind back-end merged, and the instructions for using it in INSTALL.md - no need to follow that gist any more
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07:28 < Veggen> aakselrod: we noticed :)
07:29 < Veggen> unfortunately, I rushhed it a bit. Lost my testcoins ;P (and m oldy channels are in lmbo)
07:30 < Veggen> DB-breaking changes, forgot to close my channels and transfer out coins.
07:30 < Veggen> too much trouble to try to roll back.
07:31 < Veggen> but I'm up and running with freshly installed lnd now.
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07:35 < aakselrod> lol yeah, that happened to someone else last night too
07:36 < aakselrod> we'll have to provide auto-upgrade paths for every breaking change after beta, so we're trying to get as many in BEFORE beta as possible :P 
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07:36 < aakselrod> don't want people losing real money heh
07:37 < Veggen> :)     
07:37 < Veggen> aakselrod: just wait. Those asians will trade anything. We'll see bitcoin testcoins on an exchange any day, now.
07:41 < aakselrod> nah, then the testnet will just get reset
07:46 < mlz> lol     
07:46 < mlz> aakselrod, thanks :D
07:51 < kmordic> so if im not mistaken lnd is update? and i should install the new version?
07:53 < Veggen> kmordic: yes. But remember to close all channels first, and transfer out all coins :)
07:55 < kmordic> Veggen: im closing them right now. i have a channel thats been actively trying to close for a few days. is there anyway to force it?
07:56 < mlz> use --force
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07:57 < kmordic> mlz: lncli closechannel <channel> --force?
08:00 < Veggen> yah.
08:01 < Veggen> hmmm, gotta go. back later.
08:03 < kmordic> mlz: if the channel is "active": false, i can just disconnect right?
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08:06 < mlz> kmordic, force close it
08:07 < kmordic> its pending
08:09 < kmordic> does the sendcoins command send all the coins on chain or do i have to specify an amount?
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08:45 < aakselrod> you can use `lncli help <command>` for questions like that, kmordic :) in your case, `lncli help sendcoins` and `lncli help closechannel`
08:45 < aakselrod> but to answer your question directly, you have to specify an amount
08:46 < kmordic> aakselrod: omg that helps so much, and here i am trying to man lncli for more instructions... lol
08:47 < kmordic> and if i read more carefully is says that at the bottom of the help command.. i need to be more observant.
08:49 < aakselrod> :P maybe someday we'll have a manpage
08:51 < mlz> kmordic, send it to ubuntu pastebin if you prefer to read it from the browser:  lncli help | pastebinit 
08:52 < aakselrod> :O what is this `pastebinit` magic
08:52 < aakselrod> thanks mlz!
08:52 < mlz> i love it haha :D
08:54 < kmordicLT> OMG https://pastebin.com/HiGbQugH so thats how you been doing it! this is magic! i thought i had to register to this site. sweetdeal!
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09:27 < Veggen> Hmm. A channel now only needs 1 confirmation?
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09:30 < waxwing> lol at the latest article on yalls.org :)
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10:30 < mlz> kmordicLT, but i don't use that site, it has aweful ads 
10:32 < kmordic> no ads on my computer. 
10:32 < kmordic> get adblock
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10:44 < contrapumpkin> my lnd has download a shitton of data over the internet
10:44 < contrapumpkin> is that expected?
10:44 < contrapumpkin> a couple hundred GB in the past week or two
10:45 < contrapumpkin> maybe more in the few dozen range
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10:50 < mlz> contrapumpkin, really?
10:50 < contrapumpkin> well, I've restarted the GUI app a few times over the past few days
10:50 < contrapumpkin> last time was last night
10:50 < contrapumpkin> and it's received 13GB since last night
10:52 < aakselrod> contrapumpkin: that might be routing updates. roasbeef is adding receive-side filtering to hopefully reduce forwarding of that, so you should benefit from your peers upgrading, but the eventual solution is going to be IBLT-like sync or similar.
10:52 < aakselrod> s/routing updates/graph updates/;
10:56 < contrapumpkin> is that not pretty DDOS-able?
10:57 < aakselrod> could be, yeah. that's something we're working on fixing before beta. :P
10:57 < aakselrod> it's especially bad when running on neutrino
10:58 < aakselrod> but neutrino isn't going to be enabled on mainnet with first beta release
11:00 < aakselrod> interesting thing, though, we should make a graph update flood thingy to test for that 
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11:25 < Veggen> aakselrod: when
11:25 < mlz> contrapumpkin, oh.. you're running the app
11:25 < Veggen> 's beta sort of expected? weeks, month(s), year?
11:25 < aakselrod> Veggen: when what?
11:26 < aakselrod> oh     
11:26 < aakselrod> soon! :P
11:26 < Veggen> just interested in a ballpark figure :)
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11:26 < aakselrod> we're not supposed to give that out afaik, it's more based on our TODO list for beta than on a timeline
11:26 < aakselrod> so... when our TODOs for beta are done :)
11:26 < Veggen> okok :) Is the TODO list for beta public?
11:27 < aakselrod> just about all of the TODOs are in the lnd issue list, but i don't know if they're labeled as "beta" prerequisites or not
11:28 < Veggen> ok, I'll have a look.
11:29 < Veggen> those that are tagged 0.4-beta ?
11:29 < Veggen> ...and 0.3.1-alpha that isn't yet done too, I guess?
11:30 < aakselrod> yeah, sounds about right
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11:55 <@roasbeef> waxwing: unknown payment has is when you try to pay using an invoice twice, we reject it by default, the app takes a few mins to sync the network view it accepts 
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12:08 < waxwing> yeah that was dumb i realised after, thanks roasbeef :)
12:08 < waxwing> still couldn't get it to work more generally (routing failure), oh well
12:18 <@roasbeef> app doesn't show details of failure, it's just a generic message, there's typically a direct reason, that's hown in the logs or is when you use the command line 
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12:45 < mlz> roasbeef, we're going to have v0.3.1-alpha first soon before the beta, correct?
12:48 < hruno> is there still a slack?
12:57 < mlz> no     
12:57 < mlz> what's wrong with IRC?
12:58 < hruno> I just like to click on peoples profile pictures
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13:17 < mlz> aakselrod, i've got my bitcoind to run on rpcport 18333 but can't get lnd to read it, is there a way?
13:17 < aakselrod> mlz: try `bitcoind.rpchost=127.0.0.1:18333`
13:18 < aakselrod> (if you have sections in your lnd.conf, make sure it's under the [Bitcoind] section)
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13:27 < mlz> cool, works, thank you!
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13:39 < blademccool> is bcongdon's pr 467 ready for merge?
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14:03 < anome> lnd is eating my cpu
14:03 < anome> anyone else had this trouble?
14:03 < anome> i don't even have open channels
14:04 < zyp> for how long?
14:04 < anome> only a couple of minutes
14:04 < zyp> I believe that at first startup, it'll spend some time catching up with the blockchain
14:04 < anome> maybe that's it. i'm running with neutrino
14:05 < anome> lots of logs
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14:06 < zyp> I'd classify that as normal behavior then, not trouble :)
14:06 < anome> okay :)
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14:07 < anome> lncli getinfo shows me "synced_to_chain": true
14:07 < anome> but yeah, i think this is initial sync or something
14:11 < anome> wie, just opened my first channel
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14:21 < anome> how can i see my ln node public key from lncli?
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14:23 < anome> is it identity_pubkey?
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14:33 < anome> WOHO
14:33 < anome> first lightning payment acheived
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14:36 < mlz> yay!
14:37 < anome> if i had a million bucks to spare i'd buy the fucking dip right now
14:38 < mlz> aakselrod, how can i change the port from 9735 to something else? sorry i can't find document about this
14:39 < aakselrod> anome: yes, it's identity_pubkey
14:39 < anome> is the yalls repository available somewhere public?
14:39 < aakselrod> mlz: --listen=   Add an interface/port to listen for connections (default all interfaces port: 9735)
14:39 < anome> aakselrod thanks
14:39 < contrapumpkin> so is nobody else seeing the mad bandwidth requirements from lnd?
14:40 < aakselrod> contrapumpkin: we're aware, and working on it
14:40 < contrapumpkin> oh I know you are, just trying to figure out if I'm connected to chatty peers or what
14:40 < contrapumpkin> (and I appreciate it obviously :P)
14:41 < aakselrod> :>     
14:43 < mlz> aakselrod, it won't let me "[ERR] SRVR: unable to create server: listen tcp :9735: bind: Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted."
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14:44 < aakselrod> mlz: would you pastebin your lnd.conf for me please?
14:44 < aakselrod> and command line you're using to launch it?
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14:47 < mlz> aakselrod, https://paste.ee/p/rIq0s#TnTSXIzpoUbhnn3uVaAmI4MwgTV543wS
14:51 < aakselrod> try `listen=:9735` instead of `listen=9735`
14:51 < aakselrod> er     
14:51 < aakselrod> 29735
14:52 < mlz> aakselrod, that's what i have
14:52 < aakselrod> no, you need a colon before the port
14:53 < aakselrod> the format is `host:port`, if you leave the host piece empty, it listens on all interfaces
14:53 < aakselrod> so `listen=:29735` instead of `listen=29735`
14:53 < mlz> oh i see
14:54 < aakselrod> lmk how that works for you
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14:57 < mlz> aakselrod, it still won't let me
14:58 < aakselrod> same error?
14:58 < mlz> yup     
14:59 < aakselrod> hrm, sec, let me see if i can get it to work on my node
15:00 < aakselrod> mlz: are you running a node with ipv6 or just ipv4?
15:01 < mlz> only ipv4 and i'm running an eclair node also
15:01 < aakselrod> ok     
15:01 < mlz> so i'm trying to see i can run two nodes
15:01 < aakselrod> i'm not having much luck with that directive either, trying to fix it
15:02 < mlz> ok i'll wait, thanks :D 
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15:03 < aakselrod> hrm, it looks like we're not actually doing anything with that directive afaict
15:04 < aakselrod> i'm asking roasbeef and the others, but i don't think that option does anything... weird
15:07 < aakselrod> ok, so the current way to use it is `peerport=29735`
15:07 < mlz> ok let me try, sec
15:07 < aakselrod> that'll be changing to `listen=:29735` with PR #495
15:08 < mlz> works!  :D
15:08 < aakselrod> woohoo
15:08 < mlz> lol     
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15:09 < mlz> hey i think roasbeef's been keeping all these secrets in his drawer lol 
15:10 < aakselrod> nah, no secret, i just hadn't played with that feature before and didn't realize the new way wasn't the old way lol
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15:24 < anome> does addinvoice create an invoice?
15:24 < anome> for someone else to pay?
15:30 < tuxx_> can lightning network be used on mainnet?
15:30 < tuxx_> is there a list of connectable channels anywhere?
15:30 < contrapumpkin> if you like losing money, sure
15:30 < lightningbot1> <conner> we don’t recommend it
15:30 < tuxx_> contrapumpkin: have coins been lost on testnet?
15:30 < lndbot> <conner> every day
15:31 < lndbot> <conner> people wipe and upgrade
15:31 < tuxx_> well then its deliberate
15:32 < contrapumpkin> tuxx_: I sent some to grubles the other day and neither of us have any idea where they are
15:32 < tuxx_> lel     
15:32 < contrapumpkin> luckily they're testnet coins :)
15:32 < tuxx_> kk     
15:32 < mlz> aakselrod, ah haha , jk, thanks so much for your help! :D
15:32 < contrapumpkin> grubles: we should probably make an effort to track down what happened so we can report a bug
15:33 < tuxx_> contrapumpkin: do you have testnet coins? that you cld share?
15:33 < tuxx_> contrapumpkin: or are there any public faucets?
15:33 < contrapumpkin> there are a bunch
15:33 < contrapumpkin> I just googled testnet faucet
15:33 < tuxx_> kk     
15:33 < mlz> tuxx_, you got lnd installed?
15:33 < tuxx_> yea     
15:34 < contrapumpkin> but if you give me a lightning node/ip I'll open a channel and send you some
15:34 < lightningbot1> <conner> tuxx_, if you get coins from a faucet, most of them prefer np2wkh addresses
15:34 < mlz> tuxx_, if you post your address here i'll send a few
15:34 < tuxx_> mlz: cool <3
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15:41 < grubles> contrapumpkin, yeah agreed
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15:46 < anome> Handshake failed with fatal error SSL_ERROR_SSL: error:14094410:SSL routines:ssl3_read_bytes:sslv3 alert handshake failure.
15:47 < anome> what am i missing? included cert path
15:47 < anome> i'm not including rpc password or username anywhere
15:48 < anome> ah, i need to define the certpath when starting lnd too i take it
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15:49 < anome> no, that should be right be default
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16:03 < blyat> is there an irc channel for acinq/eclair? 
16:04 < mlz> blyat, yes, #lightning-dev
16:04 < blyat> mlz, thx
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16:11 < anome> finally got gRPC connection running, taking her for a spin
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16:44 < akihabara> whats up guys
16:44 < akihabara> what is going on with the prices today?? :D
16:44 < akihabara> disaster
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17:01 < mlz> Lightning will make bitcoin great again. --Donald Trump 
17:01 < mlz> xD     
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17:20 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN4Jm
17:20 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master ebd97b8 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: discovery: ensure we only send node announcements that have active channels
17:20 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 7b6f4d3 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: docker: fix stray quote in start-lnd.sh...
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17:21 < akihabara> haha
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18:39 <@roasbeef> damn, travis hasn't fully re-enabled our builds yet :/ 
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19:28 < artlav> Hello there.
19:28 < artlav> I'm trying to get clightning to work, but for any node "connect" does not work, and the log contains lots of "TRACE: Failed connected out for 03459c42e997536a3347cb31c19c50df2d8e0d22e4b064de4c435a75bb275b9d47, will try again"
19:28 < artlav> What am i doing wrong?
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19:32 <@roasbeef> artlav: hmm, is the node you're trying to connect to listening? 
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19:40 < artlav> ...maybe? I've been going down the list in the explorer, and a dozen tries i actually got one that appears to have connected.
19:41 <@roasbeef> artlav: ah gotcha, yeh the explorer doesn't do any sort of "freshness" checks 
19:41 <@roasbeef> so could be a buncha abandoned nodes
19:43 < artlav> I see. Yeah, a few more tries later i got one that *actually* works.
19:52 < simlay> Has there been any issues with `glide install` and btcwallet checking out the 6c1491e092f39d6ed4e9103b9dc8322d04ca98bb? I'm just trying to do a `git pull && glide && go install . ./cmd/...` but it's failing at the glide install.
19:52 < simlay> I've recloned the entired repo, removed the pkg directory, and still had the same result.
19:53 < simlay> It's the correct sha as it's the head of btcwallet
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20:10 < simlay> Well, I've narrowed down the issue. It's got something to do with centOS :/
20:11 < aakselrod> simlay: can you pastebin the logs from your installation attempt?
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20:21 < simlay> https://paste.ee/p/SB3Lf
20:24 < simlay> I think it's got something to do with a recent `yum update` or `yum upgrade` I did.
20:26 < aakselrod> try running `glide cc` and then re-running `glide install`
20:27 < simlay> Ah, that fixed it.
20:27 < aakselrod> :)     
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20:27 < simlay> Where does glide hide it's cache?
20:27 < aakselrod> on my ubuntu system, ~/.glide/cache
20:28 < simlay> Gotcha, yeah. It's the same location on centOS.
20:28 < aakselrod> sweet
20:29 < simlay> ty!     
20:30 < aakselrod> np :)
20:31 < mlz> aakselrod, so because this patch is merged into master, guess we don't need these lines?:  git fetch origin pull/447/head:bitcoind-backend
20:31 < mlz>   git checkout bitcoind-backend
20:32 < mlz> +I     
20:32 < aakselrod> correct
20:33 < aakselrod> mlz: that zmq patch that fixes the "invalid flags"/"frame too large"/"expected message frame" didn't make it in today, but hopefully tomorrow
20:34 < mlz> oh ok, alex, thanks
20:35 < aakselrod> i've been running with it and it seems to be working ok, though
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20:35 < aakselrod> plus conner improved error handling on startup when lnd can't connect to a bitcoind zmq socket, so that will hopefully go in tomorrow as well
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21:28 < d3vt4r> sup homies
21:29 < d3vt4r> I'm as mad as Eric Cartmen overpaying tx fees these few months. Woke up this morning wanting to be part of the solution to this problem. What is delaying implementation of LT or how can we get more folks to implement?
21:30 < weex> i think devs are concerned that there are still money losing bugs that they know about
21:31 < weex> some people obviously are trying mainnet to get some real world experience but i think they understand money could go poof in the process
21:31 <@roasbeef> yayy travis finally unbanned us!
21:32 < d3vt4r> @weex cool thanks for sharing. so it's risks associated with trying it now and potentially losing BTC in the process
21:33 < d3vt4r> @weex If I can share something. I found out recently that folks paying for BTC mining fees from GDAX don't pay transaction fees whereas others would. So much for the BTC utopian dream when this is a clear sign of centralization as GDAX is exclusive for US citizens
21:34 < d3vt4r> @weex So if I wanted to lobby some exchanges in the region to use lightning network and not sit on their asses what can I do?
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21:37 <@roasbeef> d3vt4r: don't get what you mean about gdax? 
21:37 <@roasbeef> iirc you pay fees on coinbase, but if you move to gdax, then they pay the fees?
21:38 < d3vt4r> @rosabeef https://www.gdax.com/
21:38 <@roasbeef> yeh I know what gdax is lol
21:38 < d3vt4r> @rosabeef lol my bad
21:38 <@roasbeef> I mean you're saying there's some hidden aspect of their fees
21:39 < weex> d3vt4r: i think you're talking about trade fees, not bitcoin network fees
21:39 < d3vt4r> @rosabeef I just found that out on the Discord channel for our mining group that folks based in the US that use GDAX to purchase hashrates don't have to pay transaction fees. Unlike someone like me has to pay the typical USD5-12 per tx
21:39 < weex> gdax has lower fees than coinbase's spot buy/sell, but this is ot for #lnd
21:40 < weex> strange if true
21:40 < d3vt4r> @weex My BTC wallet is weeping man
21:40 < weex> you could ask exchanges if they are tracking lightning work and have integration plans
21:40 < d3vt4r> @weex Yeah I plan to be loud about that
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21:42 < mlz> with coinbase their problem is they haven't batched their txs all these years
21:44 <@roasbeef> d3vt4r: ohh, that if you're using it to buy cloud mining, you don't pay fees?
21:46 < d3vt4r> @rosabeef I have to like any other BTC fees but been told if I use GDAX there is 0 tx fees for buying hashrate. I can't register for GDAX because I ain't lucky enough to be a US citizen
21:48 <@roasbeef> ahh gotcha 
21:49 < kmordic> yeah i have a coworker buying up alts like no other. told me that as soon as he transfers his bitcoin to gdax the txn fee is free.
21:49 < d3vt4r> @rosabeef So to me this problem is quantified. I lose 80-120USD a month in tx fees because of this problem. I am motivated to solve this problem
21:50 < kmordic> sorry the txns fee is free transferring out of gdax.
21:51 <@roasbeef> d3vt4r: stay tuned, will be solved soon enough, but many exchanges would rather add new alts which generates revenue with trading volume, or are busy trying to scale their systems due to legacy technical debt
21:54 <@roasbeef> kmordic: that's a weird loop hole, as coinbase makes you pay out the ass for regular transfers out 
21:56 < Veggen> gdax pays the fee.
21:56 < kmordic> your right i couldnt believe it myself. im text him now because i wanna be sure.
21:57 < Veggen> ...but of course there is a tx fee on their transactions like everywhere else.
21:57 < meshcollider> why does issue #610 have both the beginner and intermediate labels 
21:57 < kmordic> right but the client doesnt pay?
21:58 < Veggen> kmordic: right.
22:00 < kmordic> im surprised. but like roasbeef said, its all about mark share and profits. you pay the fee for the customer and theyll keep coming back.
22:00 < kmordic> market^
22:02 <@roasbeef> meshcollider: it's kinda both lol I guess 
22:02 <@roasbeef> usually i tag beginner stuff as stuff on the edge of the codebase, like rpc stuff or config etc
22:03 <@roasbeef> but this digs a bit into how channels work internally and some of the scaffolding around stuff like the switch 
22:03 < d3vt4r> @rosabeef Glad to hear that man :-)
22:03 <@roasbeef> there's two portions there: the rpc (beginnger), then drawing the rest of the damn owl (intermediate)
22:03 < meshcollider> roasbeef: sweet ok
22:03 < meshcollider> yeah haha
22:04 <@roasbeef> come next week or so should have a ton more issues up, have been toiling away on a pretty signiciant addition, afterwhich the core components are all there (for the most part, still needs further tweaking, refactoring, new efatures, etc, etc)
22:04 < meshcollider> I have been meaning to come help out here instead of one bitcoin core for a while since I've seen all the tweets about dev shortage, so I'm just looking at issues to get my feet wet with this codebase
22:04 <@roasbeef> fsho, appreciate your interest
22:04 < meshcollider> roasbeef: sounds good then
22:05 <@roasbeef> yeh i typicall say rpc's are a good place to start, kinda goes from the outside in
22:05 < meshcollider> yep I found the same thing when I was starting with core last year
22:07 < meshcollider> roasbeef: very impresssed with your work on this btw, its insane to see how fast development is happening here
22:09 <@roasbeef> thx :D 
22:09 <@roasbeef> we get flak that things are going slowly at times, but, I think our pace is pretty good taking into account the testing methdology and attention to faul tolerance 
22:09 <@roasbeef> the last one being key as if you pull the plug, shit should just work on restart
22:10 <@roasbeef> lightning daemons are very interesting beasts, we basically end up doing synchronized handoffs and checkpoints heavily internally
22:10 <@roasbeef> persistence is nearly finished, last area is around the htlc switch and sphinx replay protection 
22:11 < meshcollider> oh cool!
22:11 < meshcollider> yeah definitely, people always have unrealistic expectations of developers lol
22:11 <@roasbeef> truuu
22:11 < meshcollider> tsk tsk why wasn't mainnet beta released 3 months ago :p
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22:17 < mlz> oh hey it's meshcollider 
22:17 < meshcollider> mlz: it is indeed :)
22:17 < mlz> :D     
22:17 < lndbot> <justin> Yeah weird GDAX has free bitcoin withdrawals. I like sending $10 whenever I get free bitcoin from inviting people to Coinbase, they pay $30 in fees to send $10 :D
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22:51 < d3vt4r> @lndbot Lucky you
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23:16 < lightningbot1> <conner> Big thanks to @aakselrod for helping to pinpoint the issue! I updated the PR to btcwallet in response to your feedback, will then begin the recursive update of glide into neutrino and lnd over the next few days :)
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