--- Day changed Fri Jan 19 2018 00:00 -!- vikings_ [0ecf4bc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.207.75.194] has joined #lnd 00:04 -!- vikings_ [0ecf4bc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.207.75.194] has quit [Client Quit] 00:10 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 00:23 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 00:28 -!- TD-Linux [~Thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:28 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kajlnqyvowrcnlly] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:33 -!- TD-Linux [~Thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux] has joined #lnd 00:34 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lnd 00:36 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has joined #lnd 00:37 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has quit [Client Quit] 00:37 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has joined #lnd 00:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:74aa:c08b:b1ec:8700] has joined #lnd 00:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:74aa:c08b:b1ec:8700] has quit [Changing host] 00:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 00:41 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:42 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hjglzupbodrctybt] has joined #lnd 00:43 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:44 -!- Leon [58980ad1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.152.10.209] has joined #lnd 00:44 < Leon> hey 00:44 < Leon> How long does it takes to be released? 00:45 -!- Leon is now known as Guest41942 00:45 < Guest41942> or another rc version 00:46 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:47 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 00:47 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 00:49 < Veggen> Leon: Noone wants to create false promises. It's done when it's done :) 00:50 < Veggen> But *I* believe in a beta in a few months. 00:50 < Veggen> beta = can be used, butmight have some quirks. 00:54 < Guest41942> Thanks. Thought it is already in beta phase cuz their are commiting in master branch instead of "v0.3-alpha" atm 00:54 < Veggen> ...and this is not an official statement, as I am not developing it, just following the prooject :) 00:55 < Deelight> maybe the master branch will be tagged v0.4_alpha at some point ;) 00:56 < Guest41942> @Deelight could be 00:56 < Veggen> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/ to follow the project. 00:57 < Veggen> Note: lots of the issues are probably non-issues, and/or just wishes. 00:57 < Veggen> some are just documentation issues, for example. 00:58 < Veggen> ..but I see you have already looked in their git, so you know that :) 01:16 -!- tomichec [~pi@ip-86-49-245-13.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:19 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:21 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 01:43 -!- Guest41942 [58980ad1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.152.10.209] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:46 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:52 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 01:58 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has joined #lnd 02:01 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:09 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:5d7b:2997:2923:d865] has joined #lnd 02:09 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:11 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvymnljarxrmeuux] has joined #lnd 02:17 < anome> does anyone know how i can disconnect from the grpc instance from the client? 02:17 < anome> i'm running unit tests with --watch and it's establishing a new connection every time i run the tests 02:18 < anome> something like this.call.close() 02:18 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 02:23 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth closed pull request #630: Doc fix: typo in lnd/bitcoind arguments (master...Docfix) https://git.io/vNEnK 02:34 -!- tuxx [~tuxx@ur24.Uranus.fastwebserver.de] has joined #lnd 02:43 -!- jpg is now known as Guest48882 02:45 < tuxx> hey guys... i'm trying to setup a connection to https://faucet.lightning.community/ but when i do "lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --btcd.rpcuser=xxx --btcd.rpcpass=xxx 02c39955c1579afe4824dc0ef4493fdf7f3660b158cf6d367d8570b9f19683afb5@159.203.125.125" it just hangs forver 02:46 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 02:48 < akihabara> tuxx 02:48 < akihabara> you mesh with lnd and btcd 02:49 < tuxx> akihabara: what exactly do you mean? i have btcd running with testnet.. and lnd is running aswell 02:49 < tuxx> akihabara: now i wld like to open a channel to the faucet 02:49 < akihabara> its btcd --testnet --txindex --rpcuser=kek --rpcpass=kek (thats one thing, that syncs your node with the testnet) 02:49 < tuxx> yes i have that 02:49 < akihabara> as soon as it syncs 02:49 < tuxx> it is synced 02:49 < akihabara> you connect to lightning network 02:50 < tuxx> yes, after syncing i did "lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --btcd.rpcuser=kek --btcd.rpcpass=kek --externalip=X" 02:51 < akihabara> lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --neutrino.active --neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community 02:51 < tuxx> ah hm.... --neutrino.active --neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community ye? 02:51 < akihabara> yes 02:51 < akihabara> if you want to use neutrino as your client 02:51 < tuxx> not even sure what that is but ok 02:51 < akihabara> btcd is another program 02:52 < tuxx> unknown flag `neutrino.active' 02:53 < akihabara> did you type -- in front of it? 02:54 < tuxx> yes 02:54 < tuxx> tuxx@ur24:~/gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd$ lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --neutrino.active --neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community 02:54 < tuxx> unknown flag `neutrino.active' 02:54 < tuxx> unknown flag `neutrino.active' 02:54 < tuxx> akihabara: why wld i want neutrino (which according to install.md is a light mode) 02:54 < tuxx> i have a btcd fullnode running 02:55 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:55 < tuxx> according to documentation it wld be "lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --btcd.rpcuser=kek --btcd.rpcpass=kek --externalip=X.X.X.X" as i mentioned above 02:56 < akihabara> if you dont want neutrino try this : lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --bitcoin.rpcuser=kek --bitcoin.rpcpass=kek --externalip=faucet.lightning.community 02:56 < Veggen> uh? 02:56 < Veggen> externalip is your ip, to be contacted at. 02:57 < Veggen> also, these flags has been changed recently. 02:57 < akihabara> oh 02:58 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 02:58 < Veggen> tuxx: once lnd is running, you use lncli to control it. 02:58 < akihabara> when did the flags change? i tried last night and it worked for me 02:58 < Veggen> so lncli connect 02c39955c1579afe4824dc0ef4493fdf7f3660b158cf6d367d8570b9f19683afb5@159.203.125.125 02:59 < tuxx> Veggen: yea thats why i'm doing 02:59 < Veggen> akihabare: when did you update software? 02:59 < Veggen> what does lnd.log say? 03:00 < tuxx> 2018-01-19 11:59:03.724 [ERR] SRVR: unable to connect to 0368b02d9e4a44bb156660cf48ed7492445c7cb95435c86125e74953047c7706e3@45.63.87.131:9735: EOF 03:00 < akihabara> i didnt 03:00 < tuxx> 2018-01-19 11:59:03.725 [ERR] SRVR: unable to connect to 029e1b0f33c78bb6bfc2dc7d78d343e97035fea89bad03ec5c9e4f66b11a67dad4@45.63.87.131:9735: EOF 03:01 < akihabara> 0.3.0 alpha 03:01 < akihabara> this is what i have 03:01 < tuxx> i'm on master i believe 03:01 < Veggen> how did you download...git? 03:01 < Veggen> when? 03:01 < tuxx> perhaps that was a bad idea 03:01 < tuxx> mine is from a few hours ago 03:01 < Veggen> tuxx: no, master is fine :) 03:02 < akihabara> yes git 03:02 < Veggen> 02c39955c1579afe4824dc0ef4493fdf7f3660b158cf6d367d8570b9f19683afb5@159.203.125.125 03:02 < Veggen> that ia faucet.lightning.community. 03:03 < Veggen> akihabara: when? 03:03 < Veggen> this changed a week or two ago. 03:03 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05 < meshcollider> Veggen: probably the tagged 0.3-alpha release not master I would guess 03:06 < Veggen> 0.3-alpha is archaic :) 03:06 < meshcollider> Yeah lol 03:07 < meshcollider> Running txindex=1 on mainnet is going to hurt ugh 03:09 < tuxx> tuxx@ur24:~/gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd$ lnd connect 02c39955c1579afe4824dc0ef4493fdf7f3660b158cf6d367d8570b9f19683afb5@159.203.125.125 03:09 < tuxx> loadConfig: either bitcoin.active or litecoin.active must be set to 1 (true) 03:09 < tuxx> the documentation does not mention that i need --bitcoin.active 03:09 < tuxx> or must i create an lnd.conf? (not documented either) 03:10 < Veggen> tuxx: *not* lnd connect 03:10 < Veggen> lncli 03:10 < tuxx> oh jesus.... 03:10 < tuxx> i'm an idiot! :D 03:10 < tuxx> that was the problem .... zzz.. i kept using my shell history .. sorry for wasting your time :D 03:10 < Veggen> thanks for sparing me from telling you that:) 03:11 < Veggen> no problem. we're all idiots, occationally. 03:11 < tuxx> thanks mate looks good now ^^ 03:11 < meshcollider> how much space is testnet blockchain + txindex ? 03:12 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 03:13 < tuxx> meshcollider: ~15G 03:13 < meshcollider> tuxx: oh, thanks. That's pretty manageable 03:14 < akihabara> veggen i git it a week ago 03:14 < akihabara> mine is updated 03:14 < akihabara> works fine 03:14 < akihabara> i use neutrino 03:14 < Veggen> ok. 03:14 < Veggen> no problem then :) 03:15 < meshcollider> akihabara: with --bitcoin.rpcuser ? 03:15 < akihabara> whats the new version/ 03:15 < akihabara> meshcollider yes 03:15 < meshcollider> akihabara: there have been no releases for ages, just pulling from master 03:15 < akihabara> Masterminds? 03:15 < Veggen> next one will probably be a 0.4.x-beta. 03:15 < meshcollider> no, the master branch on the lnd repo 03:16 < meshcollider> Masterminds is just the glide stuff right 03:16 < Veggen> unless there is some sort of rc for the beta :) 03:16 < Veggen> everyone is running from master, I believe. 03:16 < meshcollider> akihabara: but the argument was changed to --btcd.rpcuser though, so you can't be fully up to date 03:17 < tuxx> Veggen: can i now theoretically buy a bloccachino from starblocks using my local LN setup? 03:17 < tuxx> or is it not interconnected with the faucet? 03:17 < akihabara> hm is it? 03:17 < akihabara> where can i see the new arguments? 03:17 < meshcollider> tuxx: the whole network is connected :D 03:17 < Veggen> tuxx: you need to create a channel too. 03:18 < meshcollider> to make a channel with faucet just fill out the form on their site, you don't need to fund it yourself IIRC 03:18 < Veggen> yah, they'll give you coins. 03:18 < meshcollider> akihabara: if you pull from master, the old arguments will stop working and the new ones will be shown in the help docs 03:19 < zyp> if you have a channel to the faucet and the faucet has a viable route to starblocks, you should be able to pay starblocks over the channel you've got 03:19 < tuxx> what exactly does connect do vs creating channel? 03:19 < akihabara> let me check 03:19 < akihabara> thanks 03:19 < Veggen> tuyxx: connect just creates a tcp connection. A way to send commands. 03:20 < meshcollider> tuxx: connect just means you can communicate with the node, the channel means you've actually committed funds locked up in a funding transaction etc so you can send coins back and forth 03:20 < Veggen> creating a channel is the real stuff, a funding transaction on the blockchain. 03:22 < meshcollider> tuxx: I guess you could compare it to connecting to the internet vs actually opening your browser ;) 03:23 < Veggen> not really. 03:23 < Veggen> creating a channel is more thsan that. That's a mutually signed off commitment of funds and an initial way to get them back. 03:26 < tuxx> meshcollider: interesting, so connecting to a node actually invovles commiting to the blockchain? https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/d14d198ffe0189129c10feafb66610ba12b659e8e480ebb25594856cf6c469e8 <- this was refered to by http://faucet.lightning.community/ 03:26 < meshcollider> tuxx: no, opening a channel does 03:26 < tuxx> meshcollider: so far i only did connect, and its already refering to a tx in the blockchain.. or is that only the initial funding 03:26 < tuxx> okay, so the faucet funded my acc i guess.. 03:26 < meshcollider> tuxx: connecting doesn't commit anything to the blockchain, only opening a channel 03:27 < meshcollider> tuxx: yes the faucet might have opened the channel 03:27 < meshcollider> not sure if it does automatically 03:27 < Veggen> tuxx: lncli pendingchannels 03:30 < zyp> if you're talking about the LN faucet, then it works by opening a channel to you 03:31 < tuxx> Veggen: yup its open 03:34 < tuxx> Veggen, meshcollider: awesome guys.. thanks for the help.. pls excuse my silliness earlier :D lightning is so freggn exciting 03:35 < meshcollider> the faucet also serves the new light client mode that neutrino uses right 03:39 < tuxx> my channel is still stuck in pendingchannels... 03:39 < tuxx> blockconfirmations are currently slow on testnet? 03:40 < tuxx> https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/d14d198ffe0189129c10feafb66610ba12b659e8e480ebb25594856cf6c469e8 <- according to this its confirmed 03:40 < tuxx> ah needs 3 blocks 03:52 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 03:56 < akihabara> i git cloned the new lnd but i can still use the same arguments hmm 03:59 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lnd 04:04 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@46.243.136.45] has joined #lnd 04:07 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:08 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 04:21 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 04:23 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@46.243.136.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:26 -!- gaf_ [~fag@12.smos-linux.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:26 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:26 -!- mesh_ [meshcollid@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-byequoycyezmedgp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:26 -!- rfree_irc [~rfree_irc@172.86.120.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:27 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:27 -!- jonsykkle [~jonsykkel@178.62.10.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:27 -!- jonsykkel [~jonsykkel@178.62.10.8] has joined #lnd 04:27 -!- BitAlt [7ca88889@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.168.136.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:27 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:27 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:27 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-076-170-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:27 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:27 -!- buZz [~buzz@unaffiliated/buzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:28 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-076-170-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 04:28 -!- buZz [~buzz@unaffiliated/buzz] has joined #lnd 04:28 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lnd 04:28 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 04:28 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #lnd 04:28 -!- gaf_ [~fag@12.smos-linux.org] has joined #lnd 04:29 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has joined #lnd 04:29 -!- meshcoll- [meshcollid@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-potiumxsikkfmqxw] has joined #lnd 04:30 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:30 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:30 -!- meshcoll- is now known as mesh_ 04:30 -!- rfree_irc [~rfree_irc@172.86.120.144] has joined #lnd 04:30 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 04:30 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:33 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has joined #lnd 04:33 < meshcollider> akihabara: did you rebuild lnd or just clone? 04:34 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has joined #lnd 04:34 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@host-185-73-88-133.oxylion.net.pl] has joined #lnd 04:38 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:39 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@host-185-73-88-133.oxylion.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:41 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:43 < tuxx> hey guys can i somehow see if payments have been routed over my lnd? 04:52 -!- anthonyism [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 04:54 -!- Jenny65 [506e4d46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.77.70] has joined #lnd 04:57 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 05:01 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvymnljarxrmeuux] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:01 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:13 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 05:15 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 05:21 < Veggen> tuxx: grep in the log. 05:21 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:25 < Veggen> PEER: Sending UpdateFufillHTLC 05:25 < Veggen> I can see a typo. 05:26 < Veggen> I tried to grep for it, from my memory. UpdateFulfill didn't hit anything.... 05:26 < Veggen> is now a good time to get involved in development? Can I fix this myself? :) 05:29 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 05:30 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@85-118-69-36.mtel.net] has joined #lnd 05:33 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 05:33 -!- Jenny65 [506e4d46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.77.70] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:35 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@85-118-69-36.mtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 05:41 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:43 < akihabara> i just cloned it. let me rebuild it 05:47 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth closed pull request #591: Fix trivial comment errors in noise.go (master...master) https://git.io/vN3wn 05:49 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 05:57 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:02 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] blackjid opened pull request #634: config: adds an extra tls ip to config (master...feat_extra_ip) https://git.io/vNunQ 06:13 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:17 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 06:20 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 06:22 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 06:28 -!- maret [~maret@ip-88-212-28-50.antik.sk] has joined #lnd 06:33 < maret> Hello can anyone help me install LND on Raspberii pi 3? I installed the lnd client and now I am about to install btcd although I am sure if I should install that or neutrino. I have 52 GB free on rasp. and testnet should be much smaller 06:36 < maret> nvm I think it should be possible according to https://bedtillnoon.blogspot.sk/2017/12/building-bitcoin-lightning-testnet-node.html 06:36 < Deelight> i installed ldn+btcd on a raspberry 1 06:36 < Deelight> so it should be ok ;) 06:37 < maret> thats deelightful (sorry I had to :P) to hear 06:38 < maret> I will follow the article it includes also installing firewall which seems helpful 06:39 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.131.134.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:39 -!- Leon [58980ad1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.152.10.209] has joined #lnd 06:39 < Leon> hi 06:40 -!- Leon is now known as Guest67205 06:40 < Guest67205> Acutally I am thinking about to upgrade my full node to a lnd full node. 06:40 < Guest67205> What do you think about that? 06:40 < fronti> Deelight: did btcd really sync on a raspberry 1? (testnet or mainnet?) i treied to sync mainnet on a raspberry pi1 a year ago and stop working on this as this was to slow 06:40 < Deelight> maret: the lnd.conf part has changed a bit 06:41 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 06:41 < Deelight> fronti: i didn't even try, i synced on my main PC, then transferred the blockchain to the pi 06:42 < Deelight> (testnet, so approximately 15 Gb) 06:43 < maret> hmm I think I will leave it turned on over the night 06:43 < fronti> Deelight: i tried this also but for mainnet the pi was to slow as validation of a 1 mb block took longer than 10 minutes... 06:43 < fronti> ok, testnet 06:44 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:44 < n4pch> will lightning change the world? y/n? 06:44 < Deelight> fronti: i want to try with bitcoind, it seems more cpu-friendly 06:46 -!- wxss [~user@134.19.187.45] has joined #lnd 06:47 < maret> I am trying it on PI3 and if I read btcctl --testnet --rpcuser=kek --rpcpass=kek getinfo correctly it sync few hundred blocks per second 06:47 < maret> blocks is number of downloaded and validated blocks right? 06:48 < maret> or I guess it will be slower the longer it goes right? 06:49 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpahirrgympoulzf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:50 < Guest67205> Guys dont forget to use the prune parameter 06:50 < Veggen> on testnet? not that necessary, I guess. 06:51 < maret> Guest67205, when exactly ? 06:51 < Veggen> oh, on a pi. maybe :) 06:52 < maret> i run btcd --testnet --txindex --rpcuser=kek --rpcpass=kek, should I stop it and add --prune? 06:53 < Deelight> it gets really slow near the end 06:54 < Guest67205> You should use prune if the storage is limited and you are on the mainnet 06:55 < maret> well I have 50 GBs free on R3 and it's testnet for LND 06:56 < Deelight> perfect, you'll be able to install both btcd and bitcoind, and give us the results of your benchmarks :) 06:56 < maret> heh 07:01 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:01 < Deelight> already did the comparison, but not on a pi: https://imgur.com/a/uBg8X 07:02 < maret> what data are interesting to you? 07:02 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lnd 07:04 < Deelight> don't bother, i already know i should switch to bitcoind on the rpi1 ;) 07:05 < Deelight> it works, but 100% cpu most of the time 07:06 < Deelight> http://blog.deelight.org/images/pi1-btcd-lnd.png 07:18 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has joined #lnd 07:19 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.48.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:19 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 07:21 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 07:21 -!- wxss [~user@134.19.187.45] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:26 < Guest67205> Shall I use a fresh ubuntu installation? 07:30 < Veggen> in production, you'd not want something you're not sure about the security status of, at least. 07:31 < Veggen> ...and you'd install as little software as possible to minimize attack vectors locally. 07:33 < Sentineo> Deelight: do you use arm optimisation for libsecp256k1? 07:33 < Sentineo> compiling bitcoind with that flag makes a difference 07:34 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 07:52 -!- tbltzk [~tbltzk@x4db6f011.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 08:04 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-94-254-246-195.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 08:08 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:13 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 08:18 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:20 -!- crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 08:23 -!- Beast [~Beast@221.146.26.169] has joined #lnd 08:23 < Beast> quick question...does local_amt = my balance and remote_amt = available to receive? 08:27 < lndbot> local is yours, remote is theirs 08:28 < lndbot> technically yours is also an 'able to receive' amount, if someone used you as a hop 08:28 < lndbot> ex: you have 40k local, they have 50k remote, someone could 'route' a max 40k through your channel based on how it's 'balanced' 08:28 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has joined #lnd 08:28 < lndbot> you could send max 40k to them, they could send max 50k to you 08:31 < contrapumpkin> mlz, roasbeef: if master is the recommended thing to try, perhaps it might be worth cutting a release/tag closer to the present? 08:31 < mlz> what? 08:32 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 08:33 < mlz> we're in testing, so we get updates constantly to test the code, the version release is just that, a release 08:33 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 08:34 < mlz> contrapumpkin, it's like with bitcoin, you can use the latest release version but then if you want to be adventurous, you get the latest master commit and test it 08:35 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 08:38 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 08:43 < Beast> so if i have 40k local and the node i am connected to has 0k remote, then they can not route through me as a hop? 08:43 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:43 < contrapumpkin> oh I know, I'm just saying that the last tag is fairly old and nobody's probably using it, so it might make sense to tag something closer to what everyone's using it 08:43 < contrapumpkin> s/using it/using/ 08:45 -!- lordstapy [bc99be49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.153.190.73] has joined #lnd 08:46 -!- Pioklo__ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 08:48 -!- Beast [~Beast@221.146.26.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:49 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-94-254-246-195.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50 < lndbot> Correct, they can't route through you directly 08:51 < lndbot> If they had another channel open, and their local balance was 40k, and that channel had a route to you, and you routed to someone they were interested in transacting with 08:51 < lndbot> They could multi-hop through their other channel (with 40k local for them) over to you and out 08:51 < lndbot> But with 0 local balance on their channel with you (0 remote from your perspective), they couldn't use you directly to go out 08:52 < lndbot> I need a whiteboard... xP 08:53 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 08:57 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 08:58 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 09:00 -!- naribia [cf5ba373@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.91.163.115] has joined #lnd 09:02 -!- ianthius [~ianthius@unaffiliated/ianthius] has joined #lnd 09:05 -!- Pioklo__ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:10 < fronti> can sombody please fulfill this payreq: lntb12310n1pdxyfdzpp5h269tm2zg0vpskgfq4eh2sv3u477v43u0p5eepavmrvv7radhf5sdqqcqzysqygrkgmee2h8etfngtj9u2cafxu348fmqg5d385cpjzyhrfdvcm9cs2wc22uzchhvy2kty7m43pyanv2nyx3lfs6phk0c7jj7u5zjvqqcrkg0y 09:11 < lndbot> no route :S 09:11 < fronti> :( 09:12 < fronti> thnaks for the test 09:12 < naribia> where can I see the guides for configuring gRPC with LND ? 09:14 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:16 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 09:20 < naribia> nevermind i found it at dev.lightning.community/guides, python and javascript guides 09:24 -!- troed [~troed@h-96-204.A323.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lnd 09:24 < lndbot> same 09:24 < lndbot> lncli payinvoice lntb12310n1pdxyfdzpp5h269tm2zg0vpskgfq4eh2sv3u477v43u0p5eepavmrvv7radhf5sdqqcqzysqygrkgmee2h8etfngtj9u2cafxu348fmqg5d385cpjzyhrfdvcm9cs2wc22uzchhvy2kty7m43pyanv2nyx3lfs6phk0c7jj7u5zjvqqcrkg0y { "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination", 09:34 -!- Empty [~Shagidull@46.22.255.63] has joined #lnd 09:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth pushed 7 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNuDV 09:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 6f5d673 Wilmer Paulino: invoice: refactor parsing tagged fields... 09:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 00d530b Wilmer Paulino: invoice: remove duplicate code when parsing the timestamp 09:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master db7154a Wilmer Paulino: invoice: sanity check empty fallback addr field... 09:46 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:49 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.131.134.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 10:01 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 10:04 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 10:08 -!- kjhgfv [bce8e839@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.232.232.57] has joined #lnd 10:08 -!- kjhgfv [bce8e839@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.232.232.57] has quit [Client Quit] 10:26 < lordstapy> Hi everyone! Is ther a way to have both peers fund channel when opening? Should both node do a "openchannel" in the same time or it's just not possible yet? Thanks 10:26 < tbltzk> question related to remote_amt: if I open a channel and specify a remote_amt > 0 does that mean I do an initial payment to the remote node, or does it require the remote node to do the funding? 10:28 < lndbot> Currently channels are only funded by one side. So remote_amt is an initial payment to the other side. 10:29 < tbltzk> ok thx! 10:29 < lordstapy> I've got an answer too, thank you! 10:34 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 10:34 -!- lordstapy [bc99be49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.153.190.73] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:36 -!- junga__ [~junga@li1495-152.members.linode.com] has joined #lnd 10:41 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 10:46 < contrapumpkin> djseeds: that seems like if the channel is intended to be bidirectional from the start, it could lead to unnecessarily transactions on the main chain 10:51 < anome> is it possible to know who sent a transaction simply on receiving it? or is that obfuscated by the onion network regardless? 10:51 < lndbot> contrapumpkin: Yeah I think you’re right but they probably haven’t implemented multi-party funding yet because it’s not really necessary to get this launched on mainnet 10:51 < contrapumpkin> yeah, makes sense 10:51 < anome> if so, is there a way around that? perhaps by attaching your public key as a meta data to the transaction or something? 10:52 < lndbot> The channel can still be bidirectional if the funder makes the first payment… 10:53 < contrapumpkin> sure 10:53 < contrapumpkin> you just need a separate transaction to "top it up" from the other side, right? 10:53 < contrapumpkin> or a hop through some other channels to convince the side that opened with funding to move it over 10:54 < lndbot> Well if I open a channel with you and pay you then you can pay me back 10:54 < contrapumpkin> oh, sure :) 10:55 < lndbot> But yeah you could also pay yourself through my channel if you have another route to me 10:55 < contrapumpkin> yeah, that's what I meant above 10:55 < contrapumpkin> cool :) 10:55 < lndbot> anome: I’m not sure if there is a way, but can’t you assume it was sent by whomever you gave the invoice to? 10:55 < contrapumpkin> or I pay you some negative coins 10:55 < contrapumpkin> the answer is always negative coins 10:55 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 10:56 < anome> lndbot i'm working on a simple game where it would make it easier if i could know somehow... 10:57 < anome> gotta scoot 10:57 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 10:59 -!- Kinetic [5517a357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.23.163.87] has joined #lnd 11:01 -!- tbltzk [~tbltzk@x4db6f011.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:14 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wycsvmcfcgjhmsqq] has joined #lnd 11:21 <@roasbeef> psa: it takes 6+ blocks for a channel to be fully announced, meaning you need to wait that log until you can receive if you have the proper capacity (inbound bandwidth) 11:22 < Kinetic> I'm trying to follow the http://lightning.community/lnd/faucet/2017/01/19/lightning-network-faucet/ tutorial on Windows 7, but I got stuck on installing btcd -- the github says there's Windows msi available, but I can't find any. Any help? :) 11:22 < Kinetic> Github: https://github.com/Roasbeef/btcd 11:22 <@roasbeef> you shuld compile it from scratch 11:22 <@roasbeef> a windows build hasn't been put out in a while 11:28 -!- ezaiuezja [c384258b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.132.37.139] has joined #lnd 11:39 < spudowiar> Could I propose a small lnd.js library that include the RPC proto, macaroon handling, etc.? 11:39 < spudowiar> For example, lightning-app isn't using a credential for the macaroons, but a global metadata variable 11:39 < spudowiar> And it has to bundle rpc.proto 11:40 < spudowiar> lnd.js would have a simple API that would handle loading rpc.proto, the macaroons and the TLS certification and return a lnrpc.Lightning 11:40 < spudowiar> (also I would like to include the default home directory so applications don't have to implement the logic themselves) 11:43 <@roasbeef> it uses a global meta value as rn the macaroons are pretty coarse 11:43 <@roasbeef> but yeh that'd be a cool lib 11:44 <@roasbeef> in the future the app will prooperly use the more granular macaroons we make 11:50 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: but ofc it has to bundle rpc.proto, you can't assume that the host that the code is running on actually has lnd's source code as well 11:50 < spudowiar> roasbeef: You don't need to do that for the macaroons 11:50 <@roasbeef> to do what? 11:50 < spudowiar> Use a global metadata 11:50 < spudowiar> You can make a call credential for them 11:50 <@roasbeef> you don't _have_ to :) 11:50 <@roasbeef> yeh a call credential makes sense if each call with have a diff macaroon 11:50 < spudowiar> And then use combineChannelCredentials 11:50 <@roasbeef> atm there's just a read/write 11:50 <@roasbeef> so you'd never need to switch 11:50 <@roasbeef> well read/admin 11:51 <@roasbeef> but yeh when there are more granular macaroons, one may want to switch them out between calls 11:51 < spudowiar> A call credential is just a credential for the RPC calls rather than the transport 11:51 < spudowiar> i.e. macaroons 11:51 < spudowiar> You create a credential with the metadata "macaroon": macaroonHex and use that 11:52 < spudowiar> const callCreds = grpc.credentials.createFromMetadataGenerator((params, callback) => { 11:52 < spudowiar> const metadata = new grpc.Metadata(); 11:52 < spudowiar> metadata.add("macaroon", macaroonHex); 11:52 <@roasbeef> sure I understand that, just saying the global is fine atm since the macaroons aren't super granular 11:52 < spudowiar> callback(null, metadata); 11:52 < spudowiar> }); 11:52 <@roasbeef> plz no 11:52 < spudowiar> const credentials = grpc.credentials.combineChannelCredentials(channelCreds, callCreds); 11:52 <@roasbeef> lol 11:52 <@roasbeef> link to a paste if you wanna do that 11:52 <@roasbeef> but this sounds like a great lib to abstract all this stuff away 11:53 < spudowiar> roasbeef: Well, it was just ~5 lines and there aren't any active conversations going on :P 11:55 < spudowiar> roasbeef: But the neat thing about this method is I just do `const lightning = lnd.connect(rpcserver, tlscertpath, macaroonpath)` and I don't have to worry about the global metadata 12:01 -!- daouzo2355 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 12:03 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.131.134.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:16 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 12:16 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 12:26 < tuxx> hey.. i sometimes payinvoice takes really long... is that normal? like 1min+? 12:27 < grubles> can i connect my lnd to a remote bitcoind that is on the same local network? 12:28 < spudowiar> grubles: Don't see why that would be different from a local bitcoind 12:29 < spudowiar> AFAIK all communication is done over RPC 12:29 < grubles> right 12:31 < tuxx> i was mining on all cores.. is lightning cpu intensive at all? 12:34 -!- Guest67205 [58980ad1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.152.10.209] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:39 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: nice, can you maybe make a issue on the app repo pointing how how the auth can be simplified? 12:42 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 12:44 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lnd 12:49 -!- crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:54 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59 -!- btc_kurt [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lnd 13:00 < grubles> do you need to specify --bitcoind.zmqpath or is that optional? 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14:13 <@roasbeef> contrapumpkin: nah, wouldn't recommend mainnet at all 14:13 < contrapumpkin> :P 14:13 <@roasbeef> it's all just preemptive 14:14 <@roasbeef> heads up lnd will be switching to this new cross-chain proof dir structure in the next few days: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/563 14:14 < contrapumpkin> but I need one of those "I set up lightning and all I got was this sticker" stickers 14:14 <@roasbeef> contrapumpkin: do you tho? *thinking emoji* 14:14 < contrapumpkin> I absolutely do! 14:14 < contrapumpkin> >_> 14:14 <@roasbeef> it makes things difficult, users are gonna upgrade, things are gonna break, they'll be confused etc 14:14 * contrapumpkin loads 1000s of btc into lnd on mainnet 14:15 < contrapumpkin> okay fine, I won't just yet 14:15 < contrapumpkin> maybe tomorrow 14:15 < Deelight> Sentineo: i didn't try yet, but thanks for the advice! (arm optimisation for libsecp256k1) 14:23 -!- naribia [cf5ba373@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.91.163.115] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:26 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:27 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:c555:df20:4446:8971] has joined #lnd 14:27 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:c555:df20:4446:8971] has quit [Changing host] 14:27 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:33 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 14:38 -!- kmordicLT [~kmordicLT@76.14.28.158] has joined #lnd 14:38 -!- ajph [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has joined #lnd 14:40 < spudowiar> Is this workflow sane? I need the LightningNode structure instead of the NodeUpdate structure, so I'm doing SubscribeChannelGraph -> GetNodeInfo 14:41 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:41 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:42 < Sentineo> contrapumpkin: 1000s ? You will not be able to open a channel I guess ... 14:43 < spudowiar> Or would doing DescribeGraph again after SubscribeChannelGraph be more efficient? 14:48 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 14:49 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: subsribe graph is fine, iirc it actually gives you the entire new node? or might just be pubkey, need to check 14:54 <@roasbeef> you can actually just do getnodeinfo for that 14:54 <@roasbeef> depends on how much info you need 14:54 <@roasbeef> was considering also adding the node's channel info to the call as well 14:59 < spudowiar> roasbeef: Having all the information would be good (might patch my lnd to do that) 14:59 < spudowiar> roasbeef: I'm doing a Lightning explorer so I need the colors, etc. :) 14:59 <@roasbeef> yeh would be nice to save the extra call there, since you're already getting a payload 15:00 < spudowiar> :+1: 15:00 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 15:02 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 15:06 < anome> can the recipient know who sent the payment? or is that obfuscated by the onion routing? 15:06 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:08 < lndbot> It’s obfuscated 15:12 < anome> lndbot ait 15:12 -!- helloworlder [b2820782@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.130.7.130] has joined #lnd 15:13 < anome> lndbot are invoices the only way for a recipient to know who sent a payment? what is the purpose of receipts? 15:14 < lndbot> The recipient doesn’t know who sent a payment 15:17 < anome> lndbot but if the recipient produced the invoice for a particular sendee to pay s/he can make the connection 15:18 < anome> the recipient doesn't know who sent the payment, but s/he knows *which invoice* was payed, correct? 15:19 -!- helloworlder [b2820782@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.130.7.130] has left #lnd [] 15:21 -!- afew [05a79802@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.167.152.2] has joined #lnd 15:22 < mlz> correct 15:23 < anome> thx 15:25 -!- afew [05a79802@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.167.152.2] has quit [Client Quit] 15:25 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 15:28 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 15:30 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 15:36 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:48 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 16:08 -!- Jven [~Jven@h-75-204.A175.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lnd 16:19 -!- Jven [~Jven@h-75-204.A175.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19 -!- Jven [~Jven@h-75-204.A175.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lnd 16:24 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 16:28 -!- btc_kurt [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 16:33 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@i114-188-236-55.s41.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #lnd 16:35 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 16:43 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:5d7b:2997:2923:d865] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:18 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:20 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 17:24 -!- BladeMcCool_ [~BladeMcCo@d108-180-243-50.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #lnd 17:25 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:25 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:27 -!- Kinetic [5517a357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.23.163.87] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:27 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:28 < grubles> is there any reason torsocks would not work with lnd? 17:33 -!- kmordic [~kmordic@76.14.28.158] has joined #lnd 17:46 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 18:00 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 18:29 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] sansari opened pull request #639: Docs: Update instructions for bitcoind backend (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vNzV1 18:46 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@i114-188-236-55.s41.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:48 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 19:00 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:03 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 19:13 <@roasbeef> grubles: you seen https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/389 19:13 <@roasbeef> ? 19:17 < grubles> roasbeef, no! 19:17 < grubles> awesome thanks 19:29 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:29 -!- whphhg_ [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 19:32 -!- YungMoonHodler_ is now known as YungMoon 19:53 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@i114-188-236-55.s41.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #lnd 19:58 -!- n4pch [~n4pch@n4p.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:06 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 20:06 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:06 -!- daouzo2355 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:07 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 20:10 -!- YungMoon [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:10 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@77.21.248.62] has joined #lnd 20:10 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@77.21.248.62] has quit [Changing host] 20:10 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 20:12 -!- rserranon [bbca850e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.202.133.14] has joined #lnd 20:16 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 20:16 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:21 -!- sailorcrypt [adf430a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.244.48.167] has joined #lnd 20:21 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:22 -!- rserranon [bbca850e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.202.133.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:27 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-avmmqdugmytlxuod] has joined #lnd 20:37 <@roasbeef> grubles: yeh next step is auto hidden serivice, no listen on public interfaces, no clearnet DNS leaks 20:38 <@roasbeef> would be cool if someone could do the final stuff lingering for #389 :) 20:45 < mlz> roasbeef, can that also hide the channels funds from nosey data collectors? 20:55 < mesh_> roasbeef: has the author abandoned it 20:57 -!- Empty [~Shagidull@46.22.255.63] has left #lnd [] 20:59 < mlz> mesh_, wut 20:59 -!- kmordic [~kmordic@76.14.28.158] has left #lnd ["Leaving"] 21:00 < meshcollider> mlz: he said it'd be cool if someone did the lingering stuff 21:01 <@roasbeef> mlz: there's the --private option 21:01 <@roasbeef> when you're making a channel 21:01 <@roasbeef> peeps should understand that all the explroers only show what's been advertised 21:01 <@roasbeef> several reasons you never advertise a channel 21:01 <@roasbeef> but to non advertised channels there'll be a bigger payreq 21:01 <@roasbeef> as it'll contain some routing hints, 21:01 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@77.21.248.62] has joined #lnd 21:01 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@77.21.248.62] has quit [Changing host] 21:01 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 21:02 <@roasbeef> this method exposes some data, but in the future, if we move to HORNET, then the routing hint is actually *encrypted* 21:02 <@roasbeef> like tor's rendevous stuff 21:02 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:02 < mlz> oh hm.. i think i've seen the talk about that flag --private but i've never used it 21:03 < mlz> roasbeef, good to hear 21:04 < meshcollider> roasbeef: I'll pick up the lingering stuff from that PR if it's not too difficult for someone relatively new to the codebase 21:05 < mlz> meshcollider, please do, thank you 21:05 <@roasbeef> meshcollider: that be super dope, some minor thigns: a bug i found, and to actually leverage polymorphism in the interface 21:05 <@roasbeef> and there's one address related thing to ensure we can handle decoding both hidden service v2 and v3 21:10 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:03 -!- kayoh [68e8726d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.232.114.109] has joined #lnd 22:04 < kayoh> hello 22:04 < kayoh> I followed the instructions here https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 22:04 < kayoh> however after running: btcd --testnet --txindex --rpcuser=kek --rpcpass=kek 22:05 < kayoh> no btcd.conf file was created 22:05 < meshcollider> kayoh: I don't think you need one, that's an alternative to using the command line paramd 22:05 < meshcollider> kayoh: the conf file just saves you typing it all every time 22:06 < kayoh> ohh I see 22:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:07 < kayoh> 1 more thing in the meantime, would I be able to see my node publicly as it's syncing or do I have to wait until that's complete before I can make it public 22:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 22:20 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29 < meshcollider> Your lightning node or btcd node? 22:37 < kayoh> well right now I'm already running a bitcoind daemon on my full node 22:37 < kayoh> I'm in the process of figuring out how to setup a lightning node 22:45 -!- whphhg_ [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:48 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 23:01 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@i114-188-236-55.s41.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21 -!- kayoh [68e8726d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.232.114.109] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:28 -!- SpoekplumpeN [c20ecbfe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.14.203.254] has joined #lnd 23:28 < SpoekplumpeN> If the base layer is very crowded and at the same time my counterparty broadcasts an older faulty channel state to the network, I will need to increase the fee to broadcast the latest transaction with. This is doable from my understanding, but where do the fees come from? Within the ln-channel? Can I use parent pays for child to increase priority? 23:38 -!- sailorcrypt [adf430a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.244.48.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:43 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 23:45 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:47 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:52 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd