--- Day changed Tue Jan 23 2018 00:04 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@2600:1012:b013:3519:91b2:f398:a78e:cf23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07 -!- bajohns [bajohns@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bajohns] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:08 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ogwamnltuwbbzzoq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:10 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrbjgzskduprsivf] has joined #lnd 00:24 < ocb> can anyone explain why is it required to do a "fundchannel" for the channel to become active? what if the channel breaks, what happens with the funds? 00:25 < zyp> a channel is funded/backed by an onchain transaction 00:26 < ocb> and if the channel breaks, for example the other side peer (node) goes offline, what happens with funds used to fundchannel? 00:26 < ocb> thanks 00:27 < zyp> each of the participants of the channel has a signed unpublished transaction that spends the funding transaction, dividing it between the parties according to the current channel state 00:27 < zyp> if you want your funds out, you can close the channel by publishing it 00:27 < ocb> oh i see, thank you for your explanation 00:28 < zyp> every time you transact over the channel, you create a new unpublished transaction according to the new division of funds and invalidate the old one 00:29 < ocb> i'll have to do more reading about that while the blockchain is syncing 00:29 < ocb> thank you for your time man zyp 00:29 < zyp> the concept is pretty simple, most of the details is concerned about how to do it securely 00:30 < ocb> on it 00:32 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 00:52 < maret> how do I get nick for my LND node? 00:52 < zyp> last I checked, lnd didn't implement alias yet 00:55 < lndbot> There are two files that need to be edited. You can find the diff when you search Slack for "Alias" and then look at the files tab, the two results on top. 00:56 < maret> ou ok and how do i find my on LND nodes explorer? 00:59 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:00 < lndbot> search by your pubkey, found in `lncli getinfo` 01:01 < maret> hmm i tried that on https://explorer.acinq.co/#/ but It didn't finy anything. Do i need to have some channel openned? 01:06 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:06 < zyp> yes 01:11 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 01:18 < maret> is this tutorial up to date ? http://lightning.community/lnd/faucet/2017/01/19/lightning-network-faucet/ 01:20 -!- arajakul [~Xantanium@toroon4834w-lp130-03-67-71-142-88.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20 -!- arajakul [~Xantanium@toroon4834w-lp130-03-67-71-142-88.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lnd 01:28 -!- snake [d91cd4a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.28.212.166] has joined #lnd 01:56 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 01:58 < meshcollider> maret: most looks good, some is a bit outdated e.g. command line arguments been modified since then 02:01 < maret> meshcollider ok i ill try that, although would be great if someone update the tutorial or at least write outdate on top 02:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 02:19 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:8ccb:3eae:3e90:aea] has joined #lnd 02:19 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 02:25 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:45 -!- rrol[m] [rrolmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nmthbqogdpmcghis] has joined #lnd 02:47 < meshcollider> maret: yeah that's up to the writers of the tutorial though, at the rate things are changing atm it could need a lot of updates :) 02:47 -!- voidale [4dea28a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.234.40.168] has joined #lnd 02:51 < meshcollider> ah master travis is failing with timing issues again 02:52 < voidale> guys 02:52 < voidale> lightning is awesome 02:54 -!- voidale [4dea28a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.234.40.168] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:04 -!- Chrys [0ecbb571@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.203.181.113] has joined #lnd 03:17 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:27 -!- capa66 [~capa66@unaffiliated/capa66] has joined #lnd 03:27 -!- capa66_ [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has joined #lnd 03:31 -!- capa66 [~capa66@unaffiliated/capa66] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:46 -!- capa66_ [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Quit: ttfn] 03:47 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has joined #lnd 03:49 -!- battlemaster [~noty@c-24-143-94-128.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #lnd 03:52 -!- cloaks [~noty@unaffiliated/cloaks] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:53 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:55 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lnd 04:10 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lnd 04:22 -!- TD-Linux [~Thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:28 -!- TD-Linux [~Thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux] has joined #lnd 04:34 -!- pierce [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jodkikiwgdozezbg] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:39 -!- Chrys [0ecbb571@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.203.181.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:46 -!- pierce [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-uappmclglsuziipw] has joined #lnd 04:53 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:53 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 04:55 -!- felix1231 [68a3b588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.163.181.136] has joined #lnd 04:56 < felix1231> Hey there, I tried to close a channel and it is still in pending closing channel (not forced) 04:56 < felix1231> But it seems like the tx_id is double spent (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/6666b8b838bb3d74dee1eaef0b58a83fb0b919c65e0843f5fd88b6e177c15db2/) 04:58 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrbjgzskduprsivf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:58 < felix1231> any ideas? 05:01 < Veggen> felix: it does look like there are two closing tx's. 05:02 < Veggen> the first one is actually confirmed (6+ confirmations)... 05:03 < Veggen> could it be that LND didn't catch it? Did you try to close again a second time? 05:03 < Veggen> do you have logs from both of them? 05:07 < felix1231> Yes, might have tried to close again after and lnd did not pick it up 05:08 < felix1231> listchannels is returning empty... i will move channel.db to channel.db.bak and try again 05:08 < Veggen> testnet.smartbit.com.au can not seem to find the second one, probably it's discared. 05:08 < Veggen> I'd actually just restart first. 05:09 < Veggen> but try to find the logs and save them if you can. 05:10 < felix1231> i restarted, still there... and I have two in "pending_force_closing_channels" 05:13 -!- takinbo [sid19838@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cfoexchavewmtllj] has joined #lnd 05:16 < Veggen> is those the channels you closed? 05:17 < Veggen> Diud you find logs from closing ? 05:18 < felix1231> yes 05:19 < felix1231> no, haven't found the log... actually using "trace" so that might be had 05:19 < felix1231> *hard 05:21 < Veggen> vegard@engen-btc:~/log$ cat /home/vegard/bin/logrsync.sh 05:21 < Veggen> #!/bin/sh 05:21 < Veggen> rsync -avh --exclude lnd.log /home/vegard/.lnd/logs/testnet3/bitcoin/ /home/vegard/log/lnd/ 05:21 < Veggen> this, I run in cron. That way, I keep *all* the logs. 05:22 < Veggen> ...or clean out manually after a while. 05:23 < felix1231> ok. they will finally clear out... this is testnet so i will send onchain to empty and restart 05:26 < Veggen> yah. but still much better if you can actually find the errors :) 05:26 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 05:27 < Veggen> (if there is any) 05:27 -!- vitaminc [47724e0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.78.15] has joined #lnd 05:28 < felix1231> what is the best way to close channels? using --force? 05:31 < Veggen> not really. 05:31 < Veggen> the best way to close a channel is when your channel partner is up. Then you can agree on it, and it will be not force-close. 05:32 < Veggen> but if you need to close when channel partner is down, use --force. 05:32 < Veggen> on testnet, this is likely to be more messy. 05:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-geiowgbexzgypmle] has joined #lnd 05:32 < felix1231> hmm.. most of my channels are created by autopilot 05:33 < Veggen> people do mistakes, scratch their nodes, run it once every blue moon, etc. 05:33 < felix1231> hmm.. got a closing channel with "blocks_til_maturity": 1832, 05:34 -!- vitaminc [47724e0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.78.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:35 < Veggen> hmm...that's probably a force-close? 05:35 < Veggen> 1832 is pretty long, though :) 05:37 < felix1231> Yes 05:37 < felix1231> "maturity_height": 1261960, 05:38 < Veggen> just wait it out and see what happens. 05:45 -!- vitaminc [~vitaminc@192.5.151.254] has joined #lnd 05:47 -!- vitaminc [~vitaminc@192.5.151.254] has quit [Client Quit] 05:50 -!- vitaminc [~vitaminc@192.5.151.254] has joined #lnd 06:09 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 06:13 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:19 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 06:26 -!- Alex_ [50d7ac53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.215.172.83] has joined #lnd 06:26 -!- Alex_ is now known as ALex33333 06:33 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:44 -!- ALex33333 [50d7ac53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.215.172.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:55 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:58 < legz> setting up a new lnd node, and i get this error: "./server.go:154:4: undefined: sphinx" anything i'm missing? 07:01 < meshcollider> legz: building current master? 07:01 < legz> yep 07:02 < vitaminc> legz: did you run glide install? (look at docs/INSTALL.md) 07:03 < legz> yes 07:06 -!- Beast [~Beast@221.146.26.169] has joined #lnd 07:06 < mlz> check to make sure Go is installed correctly 07:07 < legz> re-cloned it and it works now, (shrug) 07:16 < Beast> anyone running on mainnet or too reckless for you? ^^ 07:18 < Veggen> too reckless for me. And there's no real point yet. 07:19 < Veggen> beta is where I consider it. When there's an actual DB migrator and a software upgrade doesn't make me having to close all channels :) 07:20 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@201.191.199.160] has joined #lnd 07:22 < Sentineo> haste makes waste 07:22 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@201.191.199.160] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 -!- execute_ [7a02e560@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.2.229.96] has joined #lnd 07:27 < vitaminc> so does lncli provide a way to get the private key for an address generated with lncli newaddress? 07:28 -!- execute_ is now known as execute 07:29 < execute> hello, i'm getting an unknown flag rpcport 07:29 < Beast> whats the best practice for backing up wallets? 07:31 < vitaminc> execute: may be --rpcserver host:port 07:33 < execute> @vitaminc same error, unknown flag rpcserver. trying to follow the tutorial here: http://dev.lightning.community/tutorial/01-lncli/index.html 07:33 < mlz> vitaminc, i think we're still on testnet so afaik that's not available like bitcoin dummprivkey 07:34 < mlz> dumpprivkey 07:37 < vitaminc> mlz: okay. i'm doing this in docker images and wouldn't want to lose the tbtc with the container, but i suppose i can just backup wallet.db. not the end of the world, i suppose. 07:37 -!- LND_Tester [ac618a6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.97.138.106] has joined #lnd 07:37 < mlz> yea 07:38 -!- maret [~maret@ip-88-212-28-50.antik.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:38 < LND_Tester> Hi, looking for help with LND setup. I have installed the latest GO lang, LND and have Bitcoind 0.15.1 running and fully synced... what are the next steps to using LND on mainnet>? 07:39 < Veggen> have you ran LND on testnet before? 07:39 < LND_Tester> no I haven't... 07:39 < Veggen> then that is the next step. 07:40 < Veggen> LND is definitely not newbie safe at this time. 07:40 < Veggen> it's not even expert safe. 07:40 < LND_Tester> i used this guide http://dev.lightning.community/guides/installation/ but stopped at "Installing btcd" 07:40 < LND_Tester> I know its not safe... 07:40 < LND_Tester> but I want mainnet... 07:40 < Veggen> run it on testnet. seriously. 07:40 < vitaminc> LND_Tester: i *think* lnd specifically requires btcd and cannot work with bitcoind (i might be wrong) 07:41 < Veggen> vitaminc: you are wrong. bitcoind support is there, now. 07:41 < LND_Tester> oh... how are testers getting on mainnet then>? 07:42 < vitaminc> ah, ok. i was under the impression that it has to be btcd, and specifically the roasbeef fork of it 07:42 < Veggen> but the next step is to run it on testnet. 07:42 < Veggen> no matter what. 07:43 < LND_Tester> I want to make ln payments at Blockstream store 07:43 < LND_Tester> I don't mind losing a few btc... 07:44 < Veggen> you're on your own. I don't help peple losing money :) 07:44 < LND_Tester> I'm synced and ready for ACTION! Lol 07:44 < LND_Tester> "chain": "main", "blocks": 505734, "headers": 505734, 07:44 < vitaminc> LND_Tester: i highly recommend buying something on https://elaineou.com/shop/ first (it's testnet, and i think it's using the blockstream ln payment stuff?) 07:44 < Veggen> my only advice is to run it on testnet first. then decide. 07:48 < LND_Tester> seriously, are there any guides out there for main net lnd operation? 07:49 < Veggen> haven't looked for one. 07:50 < legz> learn on the testnet first? 07:50 < Veggen> that is also my only advice. 07:52 < Veggen> correction. My second advice is to wait for beta to move to mainnet. 07:54 < LND_Tester> not going to wait.. I'll figure it out.. 07:54 < LND_Tester> thanks 07:54 -!- hello [d94d52e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.77.82.224] has joined #lnd 07:55 < hello> help 07:56 < LND_Tester> Hi 07:57 < hello> hi 07:58 -!- hello [d94d52e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.77.82.224] has quit [Client Quit] 08:00 -!- jigawatt [2f2ae8cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.42.232.204] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:03 -!- xabbix [4fb1a15d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.177.161.93] has joined #lnd 08:05 < xabbix> Trying to pay for items on blockstream's store, connected to a peer and have a channel open with confirmed funds. When trying to pay, I'm getting this error message: htlc 22 failed from 0th node with code 0x1007 (WIRE_TEMPORARY_CHANNEL_FAILURE) - Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? `listpeers` shows a peer with "connected": true and "state": "CHANNELD_NORMAL" and funds looks ok and sufficient 08:05 < Veggen> LND: have you considered giving the BTC you plan to lose to a charity instead? 08:06 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 08:06 < Veggen> xabbix: this doesn't sound like a Lightning Labs LND style error message? 08:06 < LND_Tester> Veggen,, enough of the warnings... perhaps there are people with more BTC than you that dont mind losing some during testing 08:08 < Veggen> LND: have you considered that reports about too many people losing funds will be a major PR disaster, no matter if they asked for it or not? 08:08 < mlz> should change your name to "LND_Loser" 'cause you're not going to test anything 08:08 < xabbix> Veggen: that's c-lightning I think. Should I ask somewhere else? 08:08 < Veggen> LND: what is the purpose of your tests? 08:08 < mlz> xabbix, there's a #c-lightning channel 08:08 < xabbix> mlz: thanks! 08:08 < mlz> np 08:09 < mlz> and you can ask about clightning and Eclair in #lightning-dev channel too 08:09 -!- jigawatt [2f2ae8cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.42.232.204] has joined #lnd 08:10 < LND_Tester> veggen, have you made main net LND transactions yet? 08:10 < Veggen> LND: No. 08:10 < LND_Tester> then STFU 08:10 < Veggen> Plan to do when there's actual use for it. 08:10 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:11 < Veggen> I'll be first in line for testing a stable beta. 08:11 < LND_Tester> there is a use for it.. blockstream test store 08:11 < Veggen> they should have made it with testcoins instead. 08:12 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 08:13 < Veggen> All I am saying, I don't support such waste of BTC, it's much better spent donating to a charity. Go learn yourself, it's even more rewarding. 08:15 < Veggen> I also believe that any report of lost coins will be abused, PR-wise. Will be used in the FUD campaigns that are rampant these days. I'll not be participating in that. No way. 08:17 < LND_Tester> https://medium.com/@dougvk/run-your-own-mainnet-lightning-node-2d2eab628a8b 08:18 < LND_Tester> later bitch, thanks for nothing 08:18 < Veggen> you're welcome- 08:18 -!- LND_Tester [ac618a6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.97.138.106] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:18 < mlz> idiot 08:18 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 08:18 < Veggen> yup. 08:20 -!- sufuninja [~sufuninja@ip67-155-94-178.z94-155-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #lnd 08:20 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 08:24 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:26 < mlz> "Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser..." Tell fools not to run a LN node on mainnet and you'll be abused.. i'll just let them be fools, not answering them :) 08:27 < mlz> s/answering/advising/ 08:27 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 08:30 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@201.191.199.160] has joined #lnd 08:34 -!- execute [7a02e560@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.2.229.96] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:43 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@201.191.199.160] has quit [] 08:47 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@2001:569:bda8:9400:3412:4293:2642:b31e] has joined #lnd 08:49 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 08:49 < Veggen> mlz: I am thickskinned. 08:51 < dimsumcode> Missed a lively conversation in her 08:51 < Veggen> Next time, I am gonna ask how much money he plans to lose, and offer to help him if he up front donates half of it to Doctors Without Borders (or another charity of my choice) 08:51 < mlz> Veggen, lol good luck :P 08:51 < mlz> not gonna happen 08:51 < Veggen> Doubt so too :) 08:52 < mlz> Veggen, anyways have you updated to the latest master? 08:52 < Veggen> mlz: hmm, no. Should I? 08:52 < mlz> still running lnd with bitcoind? 08:52 < mlz> yea update 08:52 < Veggen> lnd with bitcoind, yes. 08:53 < blademccool> wow so lnd now fully conforms to the ln spec. that seems like a good milestone. lots of commits pushed yesterday :) nice 08:53 < Veggen> No DB-breaking changes thjis time? Or should I close channels? 08:54 < vitaminc> woo-hoo bob -> alice -> elaineou payment success! 08:54 -!- Tootoot222 [~Toot@unaffiliated/toottoot222] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:54 < mlz> very impressive "lnd fully conforms to the Lightning Network specification (BOLTs). BOLT stands for: Basic of Lightning Technologies. The specifications are currently being drafted by several groups of implementers based around the world including the developers of lnd. The set of specification documents as well as our implementation of the specification are still a work-in-progress. With that said, the current status of lnd's BOLT compliance is:" 08:55 < blademccool> will lnd work with a bitcoind that is running on another machine on my lan? 08:55 < mlz> not sure 08:55 < mlz> i guess it should if you know how to set it up 08:55 < mlz> but it still has bugs 08:56 < blademccool> i suppose i shall have to mess with it and report back heh 08:56 < mlz> i still see a lot errors with "invalid flag" 08:58 < Veggen> mlz: Close channels or not? 08:59 < mlz> yes def 08:59 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@79.86.68.75] has joined #lnd 08:59 < mlz> close all channels, wipe .lnd, start fresh 09:02 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03 < Veggen> your oneliner to close all channels, again? 09:03 < vitaminc> is there a way to see payments that were relayed through a node? 09:03 < Veggen> vitaminc: Directly, no, bt you can see it in logs. 09:04 < Veggen> and you can of course see channel balances changing. 09:04 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 09:04 < Deelight> blademccool: it works 09:04 < Veggen> mlz: that means getting a new node ID, too, I guess? 09:05 -!- Tootoot222 [~Toot@unaffiliated/toottoot222] has joined #lnd 09:06 < Veggen> mlz: I need to wait for coins to return, trasfer out not to lose coins too, I guess? 09:07 < Deelight> i only closed all channels and deleted channels.db 09:07 < Deelight> should i expect something bad? :) 09:07 < Veggen> Or can I keep wallet.db? 09:07 < Veggen> Deelight: Did it work? 09:08 < vitaminc> Veggen: if i'm reading it correctly, alice charged a fee of 1 for bob's payment, though alice's walletbalance has not changed... i need to spend some more time tracking what exactly happened. And yes, I do see it in alice's logs. 09:08 < Veggen> if it worked and your coins are there, I guess all is good. 09:08 < Veggen> walletbalance is what's not in channels. 09:08 < vitaminc> ah, ok 09:09 < Deelight> Veggen: it seems so. it's been running for a few hours but i hacn't done any tests yet 09:09 < Deelight> it's on autopilot 09:11 < Veggen> So, only delete channel.db, then :) 09:14 < mlz> well i guess you can just delete channel.db, for me i delete the whole .lnd :P 09:15 -!- maret [~maret@ip-88-212-33-2.antik.sk] has joined #lnd 09:16 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 09:19 < Veggen> ok, all channels are closing... 09:20 < Veggen> but I have quite a few force-closing. Need to wait? 09:20 < Veggen> or they should show up in wallet actually, no? 09:21 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:22 < Veggen> isn't it now just transactions that will show up in your wallet? 09:22 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 09:22 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22 < Veggen> ...so if I don't plan to delete wallet.db, I can just go on? 09:22 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:23 < Veggen> patience is not a virtue I hold much of. 09:23 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:24 -!- maret [~maret@ip-88-212-33-2.antik.sk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:27 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:27 < Veggen> Deelight/mlz: See any dangers in not waiting for the force-closing? Shouldn't it arrive in my wallet anyhow? 09:29 < mlz> Veggen, what do you mean? 09:30 < Veggen> mlz: I have force-closed a few channels. Some have 1200 blocks to maturity :) 09:30 < mlz> ah yes haha 09:30 < mlz> i would just let it go 09:30 < mlz> this is why we're in testing :D 09:30 < Veggen> yah, should anyhow end up in my wallet, shouldn't it? 09:31 < mlz> veggen i have quite a few "saved" old .lnd folders.. and i check from time to time, most of them never arrived :D 09:31 < Veggen> ...but shouldn't them? 09:32 < Veggen> it's only up to the blockcchain now, isn't it? 09:32 < Veggen> but ok. I'll let it go :) 09:32 < mlz> im not sure, plus there're reorgs on testnet quite often so i don't really know how that is 09:33 < vitaminc> isn't what happens to channel coins driven by the funding transaction? 09:36 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:36 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 09:42 < Veggen> autopilot or no autopilot? 09:44 -!- Beast [~Beast@221.146.26.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:46 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:55 < vitaminc> what does it mean if i see lots and lots of log entries like: Router rejected channel edge: Ignoring msg for known chan_id=1385170246232047616 09:59 -!- CamiloJDL [d10d9f8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.13.159.138] has joined #lnd 10:00 -!- HoloIRCUser6 [~holoirc@cpe-76-181-129-176.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:00 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 10:02 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@206.47.203.101] has joined #lnd 10:02 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@206.47.203.101] has quit [Client Quit] 10:02 < Veggen> that was an impressive set of changes. 10:03 < Veggen> (read the git log) 10:05 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:05 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@206.47.203.101] has joined #lnd 10:05 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@206.47.203.101] has quit [Client Quit] 10:06 -!- felix1231 [68a3b588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.163.181.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:07 < Veggen> ok, have some channels opening. Didn't lose my wallet. Didn't change public key. 10:08 < Veggen> (now I don't need to update R code on https://lnd.engen.priv.no/ - made an Eclair friendly QR code there) 10:10 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:10 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:10 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 10:11 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:13 < Veggen> need to go. 10:15 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 10:17 -!- wxss [~user@192-30-89-169.baremetal.cloudsingularity.net] has joined #lnd 10:18 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-geiowgbexzgypmle] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:21 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:26 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 10:30 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:40 -!- bajohns [bajohns@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bajohns] has joined #lnd 10:43 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 10:44 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@206.47.203.101] has joined #lnd 10:45 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 11:01 < vitaminc> hrm... so lnd somehow connects to new peers - i thought it only connects to the ones you explicitelly connect to, but now listpeers shows nodes i've never seen before 11:02 < vitaminc> so does this mean they can open a channel with me without my doing or agreeing to anyhting? 11:03 < vitaminc> (not that it's a problem, just curious) 11:04 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:04 < lndbot> if you set externalip then other nodes can find you and connect to you 11:04 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 11:04 < lndbot> if you don't want that you can not advertise your nodes IP 11:06 < lndbot> and yes they could open a channel with your node once they are connected to you, but since you don't pay the on-chain tx fee for opening it, you can probably only have an advantage if that happens 11:06 < vitaminc> how does that happen from the tcp/ip perspective - it's not like the node is listening on a public ip 11:06 < lndbot> it is if you set externalip 11:07 < zyp> vitaminc, network bootstrapping is enabled by default, that'll make your node form outbound connections by itself 11:07 -!- xabbix [4fb1a15d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.177.161.93] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:07 < zyp> there's also an autopilot-feature to open channels automatically, but I'm not familiar with that 11:07 < vitaminc> nah... *my* lnd must be initiating the connection, it's all behind at least two layers of masquarading 11:07 < zyp> making an outbound connection is separate from opening a channel 11:08 < lndbot> if you have autopilot active your node will make the connections and also open channels 11:08 < vitaminc> so it goes out and makes connections, kinda similar to how btcd/bitcoind does? 11:08 < zyp> yes 11:08 < vitaminc> i'm not sure what i have, i just have the lnd docker containter that is in the lnd repo 11:09 < vitaminc> zyp: got it, thanks 11:18 -!- Xbxhxhdbd [c3b5acef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.181.172.239] has joined #lnd 11:18 -!- Xbxhxhdbd [c3b5acef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.181.172.239] has quit [Client Quit] 11:21 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 11:26 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@206.47.203.101] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:28 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 11:43 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 11:55 -!- CamiloJDL [d10d9f8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.13.159.138] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:04 < blademccool> did wallet locking and unlocking go away? 12:05 < blademccool> err nvm i think i looking at the wrong thing. 12:09 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 12:21 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 12:29 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:30 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has joined #lnd 12:43 -!- battlemaster [~noty@c-24-143-94-128.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [] 12:47 -!- cloaks [~noty@unaffiliated/cloaks] has joined #lnd 13:01 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwcabvtkfmybtjpt] has joined #lnd 13:02 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 13:05 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 13:11 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@gonkulator-19.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #lnd 13:12 < fronti> hello, what is the right way to stop lnd with running autopilot. close all channels fist and denn stop the deamon or did stop do the closing of all channels fist? 13:15 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@gonkulator-19.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 13:17 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@gonkulator-19.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #lnd 13:28 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 13:29 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:29 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 13:31 < creslin> Evening - been Skiing, my wife broke her knee, got fixed, she's now a recovering titanium cyborg, bitcoin price fell and something about buying stickers on mainnet. Hope everybody is well. 13:41 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 13:46 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:8ccb:3eae:3e90:aea] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:49 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@gonkulator-19.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 13:49 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@gonkulator-19.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #lnd 13:52 < Deelight> fronti: i didn't see any pending channels, so i just closed all channels and stoppped lnd 13:53 < Deelight> but i guess your can restart lnd without the autopilot, and close everything properly 13:54 < Deelight> (stopping lnd won't close the channels) 13:54 < fronti> ok, i guess this is what i missed 13:56 < fronti> ok and tried out.. channels are still there after a stop and start. some days ago i also tries this and do an update before restart and then the daemon cannot read the channels.db thats why then all channels are lost. and next time i close all channels brefore update 14:01 -!- alias [58523950@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.82.57.80] has joined #lnd 14:01 < alias> Can anyone point a noob to where cna I find out how to change my node alias? Thanks :P 14:04 < lndbot> server.go 14:05 < creslin> @alias As of 2 weeks ago node alias code was not complete, awaiting a PR. I've been offline since then, could have changed in the interim, might not be highest priority change though. 14:06 < alias> @creslin Thanks! 14:06 -!- alias [58523950@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.82.57.80] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:06 < lndbot> It’s still not complete but you can set it manually in server.go and recompile 14:07 < lndbot> `alias, err := lnwire.NewNodeAlias("alias")` 14:08 < creslin> good to know! 14:15 < Deelight> fronti: yes, you should close them before an update (won't always be necessary, but atm it is) 14:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNry9 14:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 5dc0d66 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: contractcourt: watch proper output within htlcOutgoingContestResolver... 14:17 < cloaks> keep up the good work guys 14:21 -!- tm604 [~tom@pdpc/supporter/professional/tm604] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21 -!- tm604 [~tom@pdpc/supporter/professional/tm604] has joined #lnd 14:23 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has joined #lnd 14:30 -!- wxss [~user@192-30-89-169.baremetal.cloudsingularity.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:37 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 14:44 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@gonkulator-19.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:46 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 14:49 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:17 -!- monsieur_tigre [180595ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.5.149.202] has joined #lnd 15:24 -!- monsieur_tigre [180595ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.5.149.202] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:41 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:47 < akihabara> whats up guys 15:54 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:01 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 16:02 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:10 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 16:12 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 16:13 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 16:27 < blademccool> hey akihabara, hows the vm setup? i spent a good chunk of today refreshhing to the latest code, merging my fork of pr 467 into it, and then trying to figure out how to get a samba share in the vm to be accessible by the host win10. (got it now yay) 16:39 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 16:50 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 16:52 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:56 -github-neutrino:#lnd- [neutrino] simonhorlick opened pull request #42: GetUtxo batching (master...utxo-scan-batching) https://git.io/vNotj 16:57 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 16:59 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 17:00 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@79.86.68.75] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 17:03 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:04 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:09 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:09 -!- hbastidas [c9d0cb1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.208.203.30] has joined #lnd 17:10 < hbastidas> hey friends! 17:11 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 17:11 < hbastidas> I'd like to put an alias to my node. 17:11 < hbastidas> I don't see how to do it. 17:12 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:12 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13 < meshcollider> hbastidas: you have to edit the source code manually and recompile 17:14 < meshcollider> Search for alias in server.go 17:14 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:15 < hbastidas> thanks! 17:16 < hbastidas> i have this error: invalid magic in compressed pubkey string: 88 17:16 < meshcollider> roasbeef: #467 looks (almost?) RTM which would stop this question being asked all the time :p 17:17 < meshcollider> hbastidas: that's because a breaking DB change was just merged yesterday 17:19 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 17:19 < meshcollider> hbastidas: you'll have to start with a clean DB, close all your channels, etc before wiping it 17:20 < hbastidas> my service is down now 17:22 < meshcollider> hbastidas: if you need to, just revert the new changes, rerun the old version to clean up, and then upgrade 17:26 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:34 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has joined #lnd 17:37 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:39 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 17:41 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:45 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:47 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:53 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:54 -!- faboose [4752ddc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.82.221.193] has joined #lnd 17:56 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:58 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 17:58 < faboose> evening all :) looking for help on getting my lnd read to test on mainnet.. I know it's a risk, that is fine I just want to test some things. I have combed through chainparams/chainregistry/config and made all the changes I believe necessary to connect to main net 17:59 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:59 < faboose> however when I am creating the my lightning wallet, the node always tries to connect to my bitcoind node at localhost:18332 instead of 8332 even though defined in my lnd.conf file 18:00 < faboose> any suggestions on what I may be missing? Many thanks~ 18:01 < meshcollider> faboose: I don't think you'll get much mainnet support in here, because noone from lnd endorses mainnet usage yet :) 18:01 < faboose> I understand, I have just spent days on this figured it couldn't hurt to ask 18:01 < faboose> there is literally something hidden somewhere to edit my config files 18:02 -!- Felix123123 [68a3b588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.163.181.136] has joined #lnd 18:02 < mlz> yea go read all the code and take a class learning Go 18:02 < hbastidas> meshcollider: all my channels are closed. 18:03 < faboose> that is literally what I am doing mlz 18:03 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 18:03 < faboose> that is why it is frustrating to know my time is being wasted because people are trying to nanny me 18:03 < mlz> your time is being wasted? it's your own choice 18:04 < faboose> ofc :) 18:04 < hbastidas> the database is here? /Users/bastidas/Library/Application Support/Lnd 18:04 < meshcollider> faboose: what did you put in your conf to try change the port? 18:05 < faboose> first I had to add some configuration in to chainparams/chainregistry/config to define mainnet 18:05 < faboose> then within lnd config I have bitcoin.mainnet=true and localhost:8332 18:06 < faboose> every time it will be forced to 18332 18:06 < faboose> even when I edit the testnet paras to 8332 18:06 < faboose> params* 18:07 < faboose> I even made a chainparams.go file that only had params for mainnet & 8332 in there 18:07 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:07 < faboose> to see if wiping out all other references could force around the issue 18:10 < hbastidas> yes ~/Library/Application Support/Lnd 18:11 < meshcollider> hbastidas: yes it should be in there inside data/ subdirectory iirc 18:11 < meshcollider> On mac os 18:12 < hbastidas> my channels in pending_closing_channels 18:12 < hbastidas> Is it safe to delete that database like that? 18:13 < Felix123123> local/remote feerates are too different: remoteFeeratePerKw=1000 localFeeratePerKw=53760 18:13 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13 < achow101> I'm getting invalid magic in compressed pubkey string: 38 whever I try to start lnd 18:13 < Felix123123> kind of high 18:13 < meshcollider> achow101: breaking DB change yesterday 18:13 < achow101> oh 18:14 < meshcollider> achow101: you'll need to close channels and everything on the old one and then wipe DB before upgrade 18:14 < achow101> which commit introduced the breaking change? 18:15 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 18:15 < meshcollider> faboose: it should be 8334 btw IIRC because the code subtracts 2 from the rpcPort 18:15 < meshcollider> Or something 18:15 < meshcollider> When using bitcoind 18:15 < faboose> yes I found that hidden gem 18:16 < faboose> edited it to 8334 in the chainregistry from 18334 or something of the likes 18:19 < hbastidas> meshcollider: in data directory i have (bitcoin,macaroons.db, testnet3) 18:20 < meshcollider> hbastidas: oh yes it will be in testnet3 dir probably 18:20 < meshcollider> achow101: not sure exactly, he pushed like 80 commits at once lol 18:20 < achow101> bleh 18:20 < achow101> well I just picked an old commit and it seems to work 18:21 < meshcollider> achow101: I think all the commits in the change were in PR #656 18:21 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 18:21 < achow101> meshcollider: thanks 18:25 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:28 -!- ecks0r [182a99d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.153.211] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:30 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 18:31 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 18:32 < hbastidas> thanks meshcollider 18:35 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:39 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 18:42 <@roasbeef> gotta finish these slides, but then can start to clear thru some of these issues and PR's etc 18:42 <@roasbeef> thx to those that have been helpling on review/commenting on issues as well, will be tagging them more comprehensively as well 18:42 -!- truk_ [~truk@184.75.223.211] has joined #lnd 18:43 <@roasbeef> meshcollider: heh yeh that'll never happen again, just was a months or so of work, sorely needed and wnated to get it out there 18:43 <@roasbeef> also fixed a breach edge case in the process 18:44 <@roasbeef> there was a major architectural change, that should eliminate a good bit of gbus 18:44 <@roasbeef> bugs* 18:44 < meshcollider> roasbeef: if you need a hand with random repo maintenance stuff like tagging/closing issues, etc then I'm happy to help with that kind of thing too 18:45 <@roasbeef> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/commit/0e14ac2063b1bb849fedd68c8dc9877f82106470 18:45 <@roasbeef> meshcollider: do you have the ability to do so atm? 18:46 < meshcollider> roasbeef: time-wise/knowledge-wise or permission-wise? 18:47 <@roasbeef> perm wise 18:47 <@roasbeef> heh stevenroose actually made an issue about this: https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/1131 18:47 < meshcollider> roasbeef: no not perm-wise 18:47 < meshcollider> roasbeef: oh wow that seems counter-intuitive lol 18:48 <@roasbeef> aight sent you something, check your gh email 18:49 < meshcollider> roasbeef: got it, accepted 18:49 <@roasbeef> Felix123123: yeh it's an issue with fee rate, if we disagree significantly, then we d/c 18:49 <@roasbeef> meshcollider: ok can you do issues? 18:50 < meshcollider> roasbeef: hmm doesn't look like it 18:50 <@roasbeef> how about now? 18:50 < meshcollider> roasbeef: yep I can see the close button now 18:51 <@roasbeef> cool 18:51 <@roasbeef> with great power, comes great responsibility, etc, etc, etc :p 18:51 <@roasbeef> I have a few tags, but can def be expanded a bit 18:51 < meshcollider> roasbeef: if it requires write access and you're not comfortable with me having it then its all good, I won't be offended :) 18:51 < meshcollider> roasbeef: but thanks 18:51 <@roasbeef> one i was gonna as was a "needs adoption" or something like that, to mark when PR's are abaonded and could use a person to pick them up 18:52 <@roasbeef> there're other permissions in place, so it's all godo 18:52 <@roasbeef> but you're a collaborator now 18:52 < meshcollider> Oh yep have you protected master branch? Sweet 18:52 <@roasbeef> yeh 18:52 < meshcollider> btw you might want to look at issue #652, I commented on it with the reason for it but I'm not sure which route needs to be taken to fix it 18:53 < meshcollider> Basically caused by the INI reader library not lnd 18:53 <@roasbeef> hmmm 18:54 < meshcollider> Easiest would be to fail early but that goes against the comment which explicitly said not to 18:59 < meshcollider> roasbeef: We have a tag like that in core btw, called "Up for grabs" 18:59 < meshcollider> its definitely useful yeah 18:59 <@roasbeef> mhmm, atm it's categorized kinda by "sub-system" 18:59 <@roasbeef> then there's also the super abitrary difficulty scale 18:59 <@roasbeef> then bug/feature-req, etc 19:02 < truk_> Hello! Ok, I have a question. I'm currently on live net and when I send a payment I'm getting hit with- "first peer not ready: WIRE_UNKNOWN_NEXT_PEER" 19:02 < meshcollider> roasbeef: heh yeah, someone made a joke that everything in core should be tagged "easy for sipa to implement" 19:02 < meshcollider> truk_ are you using lnd or c-lightning? 19:03 < truk_> c-lightning 19:03 < meshcollider> try the #c-lightning channel then, this one is just for lnd 19:03 < Felix123123> roasbeef: thanks 19:03 < truk_> Cool! Thank you! 19:06 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNoZF 19:06 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 2d104b7 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: test: wait for 2 transactions to enter mempool at the end of testMultiHopHtlcRemoteChainClaim... 19:09 -!- woot_ [44b8541a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.184.84.26] has joined #lnd 19:13 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] cfromknecht opened pull request #663: Fix UtxoNursery Commit Sweep Height-Hint (master...utxn-height-hint) https://git.io/vNon4 19:15 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 19:16 < meshcollider> roasbeef: I don't think github automatically detects "beginner" tag in the same way it does with "good first issue" 19:16 < meshcollider> consider replacing it? 19:18 <@roasbeef> meshcollider: well should be both right? 19:19 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 19:20 < Felix123123> meshcollider: "help wanted" or "good first issue" are the recognized tags :) 19:20 < meshcollider> Felix123123: yeah, so I've just created the good first issue one now 19:21 < Felix123123> help wanted is mostly "up for grab" 19:22 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:26 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:26 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lnd 19:26 < cluelessperson> Hey, who made this website? 19:26 < cluelessperson> https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ 19:27 < cluelessperson> mlz: Hi there 19:27 < cluelessperson> you around? 19:27 < Graylan> Hi 19:27 < cluelessperson> sup 19:27 < cluelessperson> I want to run a lightning node 19:28 < Graylan> Nm. Chilling u? 19:28 < cluelessperson> ^ :P 19:28 < Graylan> Ok let's do it . Where do we start 19:28 < cluelessperson> I don't know yet 19:29 < Graylan> Using vps? 19:29 < cluelessperson> I hear there are three implementations 19:29 < Graylan> What you noding on ? 19:29 < cluelessperson> I have a Bitcoin Core Node running on a server 19:29 < cluelessperson> I would use that 19:29 < cluelessperson> but I don't have a wallet attached to it 19:29 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: yep there is lnd, c-lightning and eclair at least 19:29 < meshcollider> this is the #lnd channel for lnd 19:29 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: Which should I use? 19:29 < Graylan> Ya what do we use ? 19:29 < meshcollider> lnd is clearly the best since I'm here ;) 19:30 < meshcollider> but no they're all good, up to you 19:30 < meshcollider> #c-lightning channel exists too, and #lightning-dev is for general stuff 19:30 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: Well, as I run this on a server, I need one that's headless and preferably based on things I already have on the server. 19:30 < Graylan> LMAO ok.. I heard about a guide in their channel 19:30 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: Where can I read about the differences? 19:30 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: both c-lightning and lnd at least support using bitcoind backend 19:31 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: probably nowhere except the github readme's of each project 19:32 < Graylan> Meshcollider u have a link for a noob to help 19:33 < meshcollider> Graylan: help with what? 19:33 < Graylan> With what lightning network does . It's a way to trade with a peer with low fees? Am I wrong 19:37 -!- hbastidas [c9d0cb1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.208.203.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:39 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:41 -!- Felix123123 [68a3b588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.163.181.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:41 -!- Felix123123 [68a3b588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.163.181.136] has joined #lnd 19:41 < meshcollider> Graylan: maybe start here: https://lightning.network/ 19:42 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 19:42 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 19:42 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: Which one can I run on mainnet? :P 19:43 < cluelessperson> Graylan: You know how you goto a bar and open a tab and you pay ONCE at the end of the night for all your drinks? 19:43 < Graylan> Ya 19:44 < cluelessperson> Graylan: Lightning is sorta like that, except you kinda hand the bar tender $100 in advance!, and you can then buy drinks, and then close the tab at the end of the night 19:44 -!- Styils2 [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 19:44 < cluelessperson> Graylan: Lightning allows you to trade, still decentralized and securely, the bitcoin, without every transaction being on the blockchain directly. :) 19:45 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:45 < cluelessperson> Graylan: It's better than that though. Once you open a lightning channel, you can send bitcoin not just to the bar, you can send it to anyone connected to the bar too! 19:46 < Graylan> Let me give a use case. Say you ran your lightning node and 5 friends wanted to buy pizza with you.. you could accept the funds from allt friends .. and buy the pizza with the money 19:47 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:48 < Graylan> But my question is . This works for any lightning net work user? Or just those in your own node. Sorry I'm a noob. 19:49 < faboose> it's a web 19:50 < faboose> so there just needs to be a path between the two parties, doesn't matter how it gets there just as long as it can 19:50 -!- stanhangzhou [67cebdc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.206.189.194] has joined #lnd 19:51 -!- stanhangzhou [67cebdc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.206.189.194] has quit [Client Quit] 19:52 < faboose> cluelessperson I like that analogy with the bar tab :) 19:53 < cluelessperson> faboose: It's not technically accurate, but it lands the concept that you can fit multiple transactions behind one bitcoin trasnaction 19:54 < cluelessperson> faboose: then you add on that you can also transact with anyone connected to the bar, and bam, you have a web of lightning / off chain scaling 19:54 < cluelessperson> 29 19:55 < faboose> technically the bar is a node in this example, so realistically one could transact with anyone that is also in the bar/communicating with it (in a way) :D 19:55 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 19:55 < faboose> just tell the node your on faboose tab 19:55 < faboose> :D 19:57 -!- Styils2 [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:02 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: c-lightning is easiest to run on mainnet because lnd doesn't endorse that kind of recklessness ;) 20:03 < faboose> I can't wait to find the logic that is changing my code 20:03 < faboose> it will be so satisfying 20:05 -!- Felix123123 [68a3b588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.163.181.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:09 < meshcollider> faboose: lol yep and a great learning process too :) 20:09 < faboose> this is very true 20:09 < faboose> I got sucked in last thursday, and have put in ~80 hours 20:10 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:21 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:25 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:33 -!- propumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has joined #lnd 20:33 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:43 -!- truk_ [~truk@184.75.223.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:51 -!- hbastidas [c9d1fbce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.209.251.206] has joined #lnd 20:52 -!- miedda [89baf05a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.186.240.90] has joined #lnd 20:52 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:54 < miedda> Hey, I'm following the instructions at: http://dev.lightning.community/guides/installation/ and running into issues at Installing lnd > go.install . ./cmd/... 20:54 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:58 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:58 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:59 < meshcollider> miedda: what issues? 21:00 < faboose> sounds like you're $GOPATH and $GOROOT are not aligned 21:02 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:02 < miedda> I just restarted my terminal and everything looks like its working 21:03 < miedda> It might have also been a fish shell issue 21:03 < miedda> I'm just syncing down the testnet blockchain now 21:05 < miedda> Is it possible to sync the testnet blockchain from my bitcoin-qt folder? 21:05 < meshcollider> miedda: are you using btcd or bitcoind? 21:06 < meshcollider> If btcd, then no I think they use different block format for storage (someone correct me if I'm wrong) 21:06 < miedda> I'm running btcd as per the instructions 21:06 < meshcollider> miedda: note you can now use bitcoind backend if you want, if you already have the testnet blockchain on bitcoind then that might be preferable for you 21:07 < miedda> I think I def would prefer that 21:07 < achow101> so I updated to the latest master, and for some reason lnd isn't able to connect to anyone 21:07 < miedda> I haven't got much space as it is 21:07 < achow101> it's either connection refused or EOF 21:08 < meshcollider> achow101: not even the faucet? 21:09 < achow101> meshcollider: the log is full of lines like this: SRVR: unable to connect to 03f3ae3c64338b0545ba12493421c6782aae7e43be7332f5658a5ae29cea0119da@172.104.59.47:9735: EOF 21:09 < achow101> I haven't tried connecting to the faucet 21:09 < meshcollider> the public key might have changed, are you sure that its correct? 21:10 < meshcollider> try the faucet https://faucet.lightning.community/ 21:10 < achow101> oh, it connected to the faucet 21:11 < achow101> I nuked the db, so those nodes were whatever peer discovery it does at startup 21:11 < meshcollider> achow101: hmm ok 21:11 < meshcollider> roasbeef: btw did your changes yesterday fix #604 ? 21:14 -!- hbastidas [c9d1fbce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.209.251.206] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:19 -!- faboose [4752ddc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.82.221.193] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:23 -!- usil [~foo@odisej.fmf.uni-lj.si] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:25 -!- usil [~foo@odisej.fmf.uni-lj.si] has joined #lnd 21:26 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@60-240-86-144.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lnd 21:26 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@58.84.104.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:28 < cluelessperson> I'm having difficulty with this gopath nonsense. :/ 21:28 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: whats up? 21:29 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:29 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: gopath is just where you want go stuff to be 21:29 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: in the install, it describes using a gopath described based on the user's profile or gopath 21:29 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: gopath can be anywhere other than the goroot i believe 21:29 < meshcollider> as long as the permissions are right 21:29 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: on a linux server, you do, /etc/configs and /var/datadir 21:31 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: I'm concerned with this go install . ./cmd/... 21:32 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has joined #lnd 21:32 < Veggen> mmm, autopilot on. 21:33 < meshcollider> cluelessperson: it will install it to gopath/bin right? 21:34 < Soopaman> hola all 21:35 < Soopaman> if I want to play around with lightning network nodes using multiple rpi's, can I have them share a remote drive? 21:36 < Soopaman> rather network drive 21:36 < Soopaman> not sure if I need to use 200gb per device just to play around 21:42 < Veggen> I think you can connect it to a remote full node? and several lnd's to the same node? 21:42 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 21:46 -!- miedda [89baf05a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.186.240.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:54 < meshcollider> Veggen: definitely in neutrino mode, maybe not in "full" mode 21:54 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54 < meshcollider> Because it will only have one port open won't it 21:55 < Veggen> uhm? you can connect any number of client connection towards the same listening port on the full node? 21:56 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:57 < Graylan> Thanks for the explanation. And to the devs you guys are doing some great stuff. 21:58 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 21:58 < meshcollider> Veggen: oh yeah sorry 22:00 < meshcollider> lol its been a long day :p 22:04 < cluelessperson> yeah 22:04 < cluelessperson> meshcollider: I screwed around with creating the .profile and I set it up in /opt/lnd/ as its own application 22:05 < Veggen> mm, I need to play around with maintaining my own local patches, etc. 22:06 < Veggen> Considering to contribute a bit. but it'll be on the "getting it in shape for everyday use" kind of work, at first. 22:06 < Veggen> Like, I 22:06 < Veggen> I'd really like it to properly daemonize :) I can read the logs if I need to see what it's doing. 22:08 < cluelessperson> Veggen: can lnd not be run as a daemon? 22:12 < Veggen> clueless: not found a way. It runs in the foreground :) 22:13 < Veggen> now, of course you can nohup lnd 2>&1 >/dev/null % 22:13 < Veggen> eh, & at the end. 22:14 < cluelessperson> Veggen: I just use systemd 22:15 < Veggen> oh, I have to admit I never did much with systemd...care to share your setup? 22:16 < cluelessperson> Veggen: I am currently setting it up 22:16 < cluelessperson> I can share a bash script soon though 22:17 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:17 < cluelessperson> Veggen: I'll have to do that tomorrow 22:17 < cluelessperson> interview in morning 22:17 < Veggen> good luck :) 22:21 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 22:21 < cluelessperson> hm 22:21 < cluelessperson> Does lightning require that I have a wallet in bitcoin core? 22:21 < cluelessperson> My intention is to run lightning as a node 22:25 < Veggen> no, the wallet is in lightning node. 22:33 < ocb> "Unknown command 'getpeers'" 22:34 < ocb> anyone getting those? 22:44 < Veggen> listpeers ? 22:47 < ocb> thanks, getpeers must be something that was used previously.. 22:53 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:54 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 23:11 -!- spacemammoth [796fa30f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.111.163.15] has joined #lnd 23:16 -!- spacemammoth [796fa30f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.111.163.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:19 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:42 -!- devachandra [~devachand@netris.ru] has joined #lnd 23:51 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wilmerpaulino opened pull request #665: cmd/lncli: add '--all' flag to closechannel command (master...close-all-channels) https://git.io/vNoz9