--- Day changed Thu Mar 01 2018 00:02 -!- naribia [adefec59@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.236.89] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 00:10 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 00:13 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 00:49 -!- Pioklo__ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 00:53 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:55 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 01:01 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:03 -!- jimpo_ [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:12 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-164.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has joined #lnd 01:15 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 01:23 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] cfromknecht opened pull request #791: Circuit map persistence (master...circuit-map-persistence) https://git.io/vAMO2 01:27 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-076-008-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:28 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-076-084-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 01:32 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 01:34 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-164.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has quit [Quit: sndr] 01:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:38 -!- Mark__ [5bd4cf04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.212.207.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:41 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-210.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has joined #lnd 01:42 -!- Mark__ [5bd4cf04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.212.207.4] has joined #lnd 01:47 -!- ghostbar [~ghostbar@191.109.254.12] has joined #lnd 01:52 -!- ghostbar [~ghostbar@191.109.254.12] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39 < akihabara> my node doesnt want to sync with the chain 02:40 < akihabara> [ERR] LNWL: Failed to process consensus server notification (name: `blockconnected`, detail: `failed to store sync information 00000000338692cbd905b5c149e9887c72544cd403187afa657d26a54f4a1942: failed to fetch block hash for height 1287034: couldn't get hash from database`) 02:44 < Veggen> akihabare: anythinmg in logs from full node? 02:44 < Veggen> ...and is the LND software recent? 02:46 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:52 < mlz> Veggen, i already explained to him, akihabara you can ignore that :P 02:52 < mlz> akihabara, are you looking at the LND screen? does it say anything else? 02:53 < Veggen> oh, ok :) (off-chain answers to on-chain question, I believe that is a protocol violation :-) 02:53 < mlz> Veggen, we've been getting that message from bitcoind, when you first start your lnd, haven't you seen it? 02:54 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@wnavab-n2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #lnd 02:54 < mlz> Veggen, alex explained to me, "that error comes from a recent block being announced before the chain is all the way caught up " 02:54 < Veggen> mlz: mmm, hae seen such messages but none that seemed to matter much. 02:54 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:54 < Veggen> I tend to ignore thinfgs that looks like noise. 02:55 < mlz> Veggen, when you start the LND, shortly before the scanning is finished it prints that line 02:55 < mlz> and alex also said, "probably should change the way that gets displayed" 02:55 < Veggen> ah, yes. I see it. 02:55 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.120] has joined #lnd 02:56 < Veggen> yup. logging quality is an undervalued art. 02:56 < mlz> but if you run the LND with btcd, there's no such message 02:56 < Veggen> work a place which has a fairly large set of differernt applications on an appserver platform. 02:57 < mlz> fun 02:57 < Veggen> Logwise, some of the applications tend to be maintenance hell. Impossible tyo read logs and filter out the noise unless you actually do it almost daily. 02:57 < mlz> yup 03:03 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lnd 03:04 < mlz> the log says "failed to .. failed to.." but LND still works fine 03:06 < mlz> i should test dust spam txs on LND :D 03:08 < Veggen> Some of our applications still print stack traces on user input errors. 03:09 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-210.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has quit [Quit: sndr] 03:09 < mlz> Veggen, do you store those errors forever? :D 03:09 < Veggen> at least a year :) 03:10 < mlz> lol 03:11 < Veggen> I actually am so used to keeping logs for later troubleshootring that my test LND logs are rsync'ed away to avoid it being rotated. 03:11 < Veggen> I have around 2 months of logs, now. 03:12 < akihabara> the problem with the sync is that my wallet keeps going to 0 03:12 < akihabara> i just see these messages all the time 03:13 < Veggen> but I think keeping only 3 logs is too little. I think this should be configurtable, or possible to turn off so that you can manage it yourself. 03:13 < akihabara> i need to go. i will come back later 03:14 < akihabara> catch up later 03:17 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-164.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has joined #lnd 03:18 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:18 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:19 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 03:19 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 03:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 03:29 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:40 < mlz> akihabara, ofc your wallet has 0 coin because you deleted the old .lnd and started fresh, you need to get some test coins sent to your wallet :P 03:41 < mlz> akihabara, maybe keep a note how you install and start everything and how lnd works? 03:54 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:01 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 04:03 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.120] has joined #lnd 04:05 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 04:25 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-szaxntcyzblxvrqo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:33 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:34 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 04:38 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-164.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has quit [Quit: sndr] 04:49 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 04:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:59 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:03 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 05:04 < mlz> fun to read this: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/1110 05:05 < mlz> maybe c-lightning plans to be a system for coffee for sure, nobody cares if they lose 5 bucks on c-lightning, but LND cares more about security so someone like Andreas can use it as a payroll system for his employees :D 05:11 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 05:20 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 05:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:27 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:27 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 05:32 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@wnavab-n2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:42 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:54 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:59 -!- hkjn0 [~hkjn@4.128.198.35.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00 -!- jrick_ is now known as jrick 06:04 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 06:05 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:05 -!- hkjn0 [~hkjn@4.128.198.35.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #lnd 06:19 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 06:26 < Veggen> mlz: NOt sure there is a practical difference between 1 week or two weeks. 06:26 < Veggen> away-times of more than that should make you use watchers, imo. 06:27 < Veggen> (I think it'll probably be reasonable to *always* use watchers, really...) 06:28 < Veggen> that said: could you tell a watcher to not publish the penalty tx the first day, for example? 06:28 < mlz> Veggen, yea, well we don't have watchers yet, and right now there's not really a practical reason to use LN since the software is still in alpha, so i think letting users set their the CSV is the right way to go to bridge the differences 06:28 < mlz> -the 06:29 < mlz> the problem is how many users know anything about CSV, but I guess they'll learn eventually 06:30 < mlz> i can see the points on both sides, LND is thinking long term, c-lightning is not, hence they're on #reckless agenda :D 06:32 < Veggen> I'd seriously licke feature freeze and pushing a beta soon. But I try to be patient :) 06:32 < Veggen> I guess we are sort of in feature freeze, though. 06:32 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:33 < Veggen> software development projects generally is better off with real-life experience as early as possible. 06:33 < Veggen> but we needs there to be little chance for money-losing bugs. 06:42 < mlz> Veggen, this PR hasn't been merged yet: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/719 06:42 < mlz> when it's merged, i'll do the drumroll :D 06:42 < Veggen> yeah- I've been watching that one eagerly too. 06:47 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-164.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has joined #lnd 06:51 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:51 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 06:56 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 07:16 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 07:18 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:20 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lnd 07:30 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:31 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 07:35 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 07:37 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:37 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lnd 07:52 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.53.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.26.145] has joined #lnd 08:00 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 08:01 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.26.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:04 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 08:08 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 08:10 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:11 -!- i25959341 [568fbfd8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.143.191.216] has joined #lnd 08:11 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 08:16 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 08:22 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 08:44 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 08:50 -!- naribia [adefe807@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.7] has joined #lnd 08:52 < naribia> im looking to play around with bitcoin script, construct txn's, broadcast them to a bitcoind, is this possible with the tools under btcsuite ? 08:55 < naribia> perhaps I should ask #bitcoin 09:01 < mlz> naribia, LND doesn't use btcd suite 09:01 < naribia> OH 09:01 < naribia> *oh 09:03 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 09:04 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:11 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 09:11 < naribia> it basically does, looks like its just roasbeef's version 09:12 -!- kiddo5235 [25bc848d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.188.132.141] has joined #lnd 09:14 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 09:15 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:15 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 09:16 -!- sndr [~sander@185-61-53-164.185-61-53-ip.fmo-solutions.nl] has quit [Quit: sndr] 09:16 < naribia> im loving golang 09:17 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 09:18 < mlz> yea we're using roasbeef's fork 09:18 < mlz> so does it also do bitcoin scripting? 09:18 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:22 < naribia> his fork? 09:23 < naribia> https://github.com/Roasbeef/btcd/tree/master/txscript 09:26 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 09:29 < naribia> also wondering what is special about roasbeef's fork of btcd 09:31 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 09:31 -!- melvin__ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:33 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 09:33 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 09:36 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.120] has joined #lnd 09:43 < mlz> naribia, it supports Neutrino 09:44 < mlz> we've been using it since day one 09:44 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:44 < naribia> ah 09:44 < naribia> ok 09:45 < mlz> to do lightning you have to have segwit, and BTCD did not have segwit to begin with so roasbeef forked it, got segwit, then got neutrino 09:47 < mlz> https://github.com/roasbeef/btcd 09:52 < naribia> oooh 10:03 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 10:09 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 10:22 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22 < Bunnyh> hmm.. I know it's offtopic but is there an insight version compatible with that BTCD fork? 10:22 -!- kunla [~kunla@81.193.53.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:23 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 10:24 < mlz> Bunnyh, what do you mean? 10:25 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 10:25 < Bunnyh> not sure if it's even possible. just looking for an alternative software that would work with bitpay's insight software 10:26 < Bunnyh> And looks like I confused this with btc1 :) so many projects with similar names 10:30 < mlz> what's btc1? 10:31 < rev3rse> is there any particular place with docs / example for lnd.conf for having LND connect to a remote bitcoind node? 10:36 < mlz> rev3rse, not sure but here's the conf sample: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/sample-lnd.conf 10:37 < rev3rse> mlz: thanks, trying that 10:42 < rev3rse> is bitcoind.rpchost the value I need to edit to point to a non-localhost bitcoind server? 10:48 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:49 < rev3rse> hrm, maybe i'm fudamentally not understanding lnd 10:49 < rev3rse> or rather the difference between ldn and lncli 10:50 < Veggen> rnd is the daemon, lncli is a tool to send control commands to the daemon. 10:50 < Veggen> lnd is the daemon. 10:51 -!- angoor [2d733649@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.115.54.73] has joined #lnd 10:51 < angoor> hi 10:51 < angoor> any1 10:55 < rev3rse> so in the case of Zap wallet, that is acting what lncli does 10:55 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 10:55 < rev3rse> just it's coming from the electron app instead of a cli tool 10:56 < Veggen> yah. 10:56 < rev3rse> I got that part, but in the lnd.conf file, I assume the bitcoind.* mean where your bitcoind node is 10:57 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:00 -!- kunla [~kunla@148.63.54.31] has joined #lnd 11:02 < rev3rse> can lnd not connect to non-localhosts? 11:02 < mlz> i think lnd can connect to a remote bitcoind but i haven't figured that out 11:02 < mlz> haven't bothered to figure it out :D 11:03 < mlz> you can run neutrino and connect to a remote btcd 11:03 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@nagini-36.dynamic.rpi.edu] has joined #lnd 11:05 < rev3rse> heh 11:06 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06 < rev3rse> so do I configure lnd or lncli/neutrino/zap to connect to my bitcoind node? 11:06 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 11:07 < angoor> what should I learn to understand and code on this 11:08 < rev3rse> angoor: the Lightning section on here is pretty good http://lopp.net/bitcoin.html 11:11 < angoor> thanks 11:14 < mlz> rev3rse, you have a bitcoind node? 11:14 < mlz> rev3rse, does it have zmq installed? 11:15 < mlz> rev3rse, here's the guide to install everything: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 11:16 < rev3rse> mlz: yes, I have a bitcoind with zmq, just on a different machine than lnd 11:20 < mlz> rev3rse, ah cool 11:20 < mlz> rev3rse, make sure you run it with --txindex and all the configure is correct 11:20 < mlz> maybe someone will know how to help 11:21 < rev3rse> yup, haz txindex 11:21 < rev3rse> hopefully :) 11:22 < rev3rse> mlz: do you know where the "wallet" that lncli creates is stored? 11:22 < mlz> tyzbit, do you know how to do it? 11:23 < rev3rse> I think made one earlier and lost the password, but can't recreate one 11:23 < mlz> rev3rse, it's in another subfolder in .lnd 11:23 < rev3rse> ~/.lnd/data ? 11:23 < mlz> in wallet.db 11:23 < lndbot> the question is connecting lnd to bitcoind? 11:24 < mlz> yea 11:24 < mlz> connecting to a remote bitcoind 11:25 < lndbot> you just need to configure lnd with all of the necessary options, bitcoind.(rpchost&&rpcuser&&rpcpass&&zmqpath) 11:25 < lndbot> the gotcha with remote bitcoinds is you need to have bitcoind listen on an externally reachable interface 11:25 < lndbot> so by default it listens on 127.0.0.1, if you change the config to have it listen on 0.0.0.0 ZMQ will be externally reachable 11:26 < lndbot> zmqpubrawblock=tcp://0.0.0.0:29000 zmqpubrawtx=tcp://0.0.0.0:29000 11:27 < lndbot> while exposing ZMQ to the internet isn't an inherent security risk (all of the info is what is already publicly available on the blockchain), don't do it anyway. 11:27 < rev3rse> those values go in the lnd.conf I assume? 11:27 < lndbot> no, those zmq configs go into bitcoind.conf 11:28 < rev3rse> ah 11:30 < rev3rse> so basically you always want to run lnd on same host/machine where bitcoind is? 11:31 -!- angoor [2d733649@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.115.54.73] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33 -!- bryanvu [~bryanvu@162-227-162-49.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:33 < mlz> that's what i'm doing 11:33 < lndbot> not necessarily. Running them on the same network, behind a firewall would be fine. Connecting to the ZMQ of a bitcoind node over a VPN would also be fine. Whitelisting the inbound IP of LND while blacklisting the internet as a whole would also be fine. 11:35 < rev3rse> noted 11:35 < mlz> tyzbit you mean it's fine if you run bitcoind with no other inbounds except your LND node? 11:35 < rev3rse> currently, both are on a LAN that is NAT'd so no big risk 11:36 -!- kunla [~kunla@148.63.54.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36 < lndbot> yeah, if you firewall the entire internet but whitelist your own IPs, exposing it to the internet would be fine. Again, it's not a security vulnerability thing, more of a best practice thing. I dunno if ZMQ can be used to amplify ddos attacks or anything, but best not to expose yourself to the risk of being an unwitting participant. 11:37 < lndbot> the easiest design is of course running them on the same machine, but I like to have disposable machines and docker containers, so I run a standalone bitcoind in a shared network between all of the other containers and machines so I can dispose of them without having to do anything with the 190GB blockchain, plus I only have to keep one copy. 11:38 < mlz> yup, i'd like to do that too 11:39 < rev3rse> right, that is kind of what i'm aiming for tyzbit, but with pi's :) 11:40 < lndbot> if all of the pis are on the same network, ez pz. just listen on 0.0.0.0 and point the other machines to bitcoind's private IP 11:40 < lndbot> you can also still port forward _just_ 8333 to help the network at large 11:41 < rev3rse> yah 11:42 < rev3rse> huh, so whenever I unlock a wallet with lncli it crashes lnd with: 11:42 < rev3rse> unable to start wallet: Post http://localhost:18332: dial tcp [::1]:18332: getsockopt: connection refused 11:43 < lndbot> if you're trying to do the setup we've been talking about, make sure that you've set bitcoind.rpchost appropriately as well 11:43 < lndbot> lnd assumes it need to talk to localhost 11:44 < lndbot> also, while I don't know if it's been "fixed" or not (since it's not really a bug) but you need to set all four of the RPC options I mentioned above for lnd. I think if you don't now with recent commits it warns you. 11:44 < rev3rse> yah I got the IP of my machine with bitcoind in there 11:44 < rev3rse> there is no bitcoind.rpcport though, right? 11:45 < rev3rse> 4 values? I have rpchost, rpcuser, rpcpass 11:45 < lndbot> no, it's just the IP, nothing else 11:45 < rev3rse> ok 11:46 < lndbot> as an example, here's what I have 11:46 < lndbot> bitcoind.rpchost=192.168.1.50 bitcoind.rpcuser=xxx bitcoind.rpcpass=xxx bitcoind.zmqpath=tcp://192.168.1.50:29000 11:46 < mlz> and i think you have to set rpcuser and rpcpassword 11:47 < mlz> there's rpcauth but not sure if you're familiar with it 11:47 < mlz> while if you run both on the same local machine you don't have to set these 11:54 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@nagini-36.dynamic.rpi.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:56 < rev3rse> weird, lnd is erroring out still 11:56 < rev3rse> unable to start wallet: Post http://192.168.10.138:18332: dial tcp 192.168.10.138:18332: getsockopt: connection refused 11:56 < rev3rse> not honoring the 29000 port for some reason 12:03 < lndbot> 18332 is the RPC port which is separate from the ZMQ port 12:04 -!- bryanvu [~bryanvu@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 12:05 < lndbot> and obviously if the host has any firewall you might have to adjust it to allow the local traffic 12:10 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxyifzsntpbybltp] has joined #lnd 12:12 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 12:13 < rev3rse> bah, something is still messed with bitcoind 12:13 < rev3rse> will have to debug more later though 12:13 < rev3rse> thanks for your help mlz and tyzbit :) 12:14 < mlz> rev3rse, yw :) good luck, and teach me do it later :D 12:20 <@roasbeef> rev3rse: make sure you've compiled with zmq, and also set the block+tx addrs in the bitcoin.conf 12:23 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:28 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28 <@roasbeef> sir, when 0.4? 12:29 -!- attilio [~attilio@cm-84.210.20.218.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1 - http://znc.in] 12:30 < Veggen> roasbeef: yes, please :) (When will the aeseed be merged, do you know? I see it has quite a bit of comments in github) 12:30 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 12:30 -!- attilio [~attilio@cm-84.210.20.218.getinternet.no] has joined #lnd 12:34 -!- Bezpol [25f8a0a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.248.160.167] has joined #lnd 12:34 <@roasbeef> pretty soon 12:34 -!- IniGit [~Gernot@62.178.56.62] has joined #lnd 12:34 < Bezpol> Hello. 12:36 < Veggen> hello Bezpol. 12:38 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 12:44 < mlz> roasbeef, we're getting 0.4 today??? :D :D :D 12:46 <@roasbeef> mlz: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/milestone/5 12:47 < mlz> :( 12:48 <@roasbeef> mostly review+testing 12:50 < naribia> im trying to get the example working under roasbeef/btcd/rpcclient/examples/btcdwebsockets 12:50 < naribia> i've got the proper rpc user and pass set up in the main.go file, but I keep getting 12:50 < naribia> getsockopt connection status refused 12:50 < naribia> exit status 1 12:51 <@roasbeef> naribia: check your ports 12:51 <@roasbeef> also y'all will prob really dig https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/787 12:52 < naribia> roasbeef: i have btcd running in testnet, haven't changed any ports, rpc ports should be 8334 right? 12:53 < mlz> 18334 12:53 < naribia> oh fuuuuuuuuuck 12:54 < naribia> mlz: thank you 12:54 < mlz> np :) 12:55 < Veggen> running on Linux? netstat -an and lsof -p is good tools to check what ports are open :) 12:55 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:1502:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has joined #lnd 12:56 < naribia> ah 13:01 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Quit: dionysus69] 13:04 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06 < mlz> naribia, https://twitter.com/roasbeef/status/965748170012508160 13:07 < naribia> mlz: ok thanks, still not super familiar with neutrino but I'll look at it soon 13:12 < Bezpol> If I understand that anyone user of ln must be still working lnd instance ? 13:13 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 13:13 < naribia> Bezpol: not sure exactly what you mean but there are other lightning implementations 13:14 < mlz> roasbeef, syncing bitcoind on testnet with txindex + assumevalid + dbcache=4000 took me only 40 min (well on a machine with good bandwidth) but still this is amazing! 13:14 <@roasbeef> not bad, 0.16? 13:14 < mlz> yup 13:14 < mlz> i should try this on my slow internet too 13:14 < naribia> syncing lnd to bitcoind ? 13:15 < mlz> no sycing bitcoind to the testnet blockchain 13:15 < naribia> ok 13:15 < naribia> does testnet typically take longer or shorter to sync than mainnet ? 13:15 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16 < mlz> i will try this on the main chain, i guess it would take only about 5 hours the most 13:17 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 13:17 < Veggen> mmm, my home internet is 200 Mbps. I think my mainnet LND node will run at home.. 13:17 < mlz> naribia, testnet chain is 14G, main chain is 188G 13:17 < Veggen> (when beta is ready) 13:18 < naribia> ok, theres more testnet blocks so i guess there are just more empty testnet blocks? 13:24 < Bezpol> Is it possible to run lnd without start connecting to other nodes ? 13:25 < mlz> well actually 45 min, still amazing 13:26 < mlz> and syncing withou txindex took 30 min 13:26 < mlz> without* 13:29 < Bezpol> Or connect only one node at start ? 13:34 < Bezpol> nobootstrap=1 ? 13:40 < Bezpol> and neutrion ? 13:40 < mlz> ? 13:41 < mlz> Bezpol, i use this guide here: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 13:41 < mlz> LND on commandline is the best 13:42 < mlz> Bezpol, first off, install the latest Go: https://golang.org/dl/ 13:43 < mlz> Bezpol, the guides to install Go here: https://golang.org/doc/install#install 13:44 -!- Bezpol [25f8a0a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.248.160.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 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aezeed: add a set of benchmarks... 17:54 -!- naribia [adefec2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.236.45] has joined #lnd 17:58 -!- naribia [adefec2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.236.45] has quit [Client Quit] 17:59 -!- naribia [2fbd49aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.189.73.170] has joined #lnd 17:59 < naribia> .j #bitcoin 17:59 < naribia> :P 18:00 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:00 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 18:02 <@roasbeef> ? 18:07 < naribia> meant to /j #bitcoin 18:13 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-23-226-107-190.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:23 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24 -!- bobo909 [829b9da3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.155.157.163] has joined #lnd 18:24 < bobo909> hi there 18:24 < bobo909> I just wondered why the faucet is down? 18:25 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 18:27 -!- ohohohoh 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causation for that? 18:52 <@roasbeef> naribia: there's a bug atm where it's a bit to aggressive and forgets to disconnect peers if it isn't able to make channels with em for w/e reason 18:53 < naribia> ah ok so then its finding more peers to open up those extra channels with 18:53 <@roasbeef> yeh 18:56 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 18:58 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:59 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 19:09 < mlz> roasbeef, it seems that if the other side gets paid but can't send back unless the amount is over 1% of the channel capacity? is it something new? 19:20 <@roasbeef> mlz: reserve, new ish but yeh it's a thing 19:20 <@roasbeef> but once they get over 1%, they can then spend down 19:24 < mlz> yea i figured that 19:45 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 19:46 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.57.12] has joined #lnd 19:52 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