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I even have a direct channel to coinpanic 11:57 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57 < C-Otto> ...which is inactive. ah, strange new world 11:58 < lndbot1> make sure your Lightning port is open, just in case 12:00 < C-Otto> it is... 12:01 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 12:01 < C-Otto> coinjar seems to be down :) 12:02 < lndbot1> yeah, just mentioning because that's a very common reason for channels to randomly go inactive, but coinjar's uptime is also a good reason too lol 12:06 < molz> C-Otto, not down for me 12:06 < C-Otto> I'm unable to connect. I don't get an error message, but the pubkey doesn't appear in the peers list 12:06 < molz> which pubkey do you have? 12:06 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 12:06 < C-Otto> 03a9d79bcfab7feb0f24c3cd61a57f0f00de2225b6d31bce0bc4564efa3b1b5aaf 12:07 < C-Otto> mine is 027ce055380348d7812d2ae7745701c9f93e70c1adeb2657f053f91df4f2843c71 12:07 < molz> and you have a channel with it? 12:08 < C-Otto> Yeah: https://1ml.com/channel/574283719298646016 12:09 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 12:10 < molz> i just made a payment to it and got paid from it with no problem, and i don't have a channel with it 12:11 < C-Otto> https://paste.debian.net/1024525/ 12:11 < C-Otto> That doesn't look right to me 12:13 < C-Otto> 2018-05-13 21:12:40.772 [TRC] PEER: Disconnecting 13.92.254.226:9735, reason: unable to settle incoming HTLC: No HTLC with ID 22 in channel 522308:278:0 12:20 < molz> hm that's weird, it seems you've had a channel with coinpanic since yesterday? 12:21 < C-Otto> correct 12:22 < C-Otto> the error popped up today, and according to the logs I restarted my node around that time 12:22 < molz> C-Otto, did you change your base fee or fee rate? 12:22 < C-Otto> yes, I did 12:22 < molz> ah 12:22 < C-Otto> ./lncli updatechanpolicy --base_fee_msat 0 --fee_rate 0.000001 --time_lock_delta 14 12:22 < molz> that explains it 12:22 < C-Otto> could you explain it to me? :) 12:22 < molz> reset it back to default, restart your lnd node and try again 12:26 < C-Otto> I assume that base_fee_msat has a default of 1000? I tried that, both with time lock delta 14 (which is in my config?) and 144 (the default?) 12:28 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 12:29 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:31 < C-Otto> I'll just close the channel 12:32 < molz> well i don't know why but it seems lnd would look for the cheapest routes.. so if your node wants to charge a high fee, nobody would route thru your node 12:32 < C-Otto> That's why I set low fees 12:32 < molz> and you can't pay or get paid either 12:32 < molz> oh even if you set your fee to 0, you mess it up too 12:32 < C-Otto> interesting... 12:33 < molz> i had a channel with someone he did this, i could not send a payment to someone who I had a direct channel with, so i had to close this dude's channel 12:33 < C-Otto> I set it to 1 now, would that help? 12:33 -!- belcher 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Leaving] 13:48 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lnd 14:04 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC47528.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 14:04 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC47528.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 14:04 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 14:13 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 14:56 < molz> it looks like someone is spamming the main chain? 14:58 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59 -!- asdafdsasd [~sdfgsdfg@176.33.236.80] has quit [Quit: asdafdsasd] 15:01 <@roasbeef> molz: orly? 15:02 <@roasbeef> C-Otto: what commit are you using? 15:02 < C-Otto> I don't see it.. just way too few blocks 15:02 <@roasbeef> that error you get isn't related to using updatechapolicy btw 15:03 < C-Otto> roasbeef: right now I'm running 28b12116e42c83149b6c6b93b70d669a0702bd2d 15:03 <@roasbeef> off hand, i don't think it's actually possible to see a base zero fee 15:03 <@roasbeef> gotcha 15:03 < C-Otto> before, when I asked in here, I was running the beta release (4.1?) from the homepage 15:03 < C-Otto> the binary from github, I mean 15:03 <@roasbeef> 0.4.2 should be out this week, packages a bunch of bug fix goodies 15:05 < molz> roasbeef, he set base fee at 0, like what skyrus did, which somehow would mess up the routes, we talked about this on the slack a few weeks ago 15:06 < molz> and i think you got it fixed 15:06 <@roasbeef> yeh that's no longer an issue 15:06 < C-Otto> I actually managed to route a few payments through that node 15:06 <@roasbeef> reading scrollback, i don't actually see an issue 15:07 < C-Otto> roasbeef: I restarted my node shortly before the "missing HTLC" popped up, I might have killed the node before something was written to disk? 15:09 <@roasbeef> hmm, no i don't think that's the case 15:10 < C-Otto> "blocks_til_maturity": 143, 15:10 < C-Otto> I guess I'll go to bed before that :) 15:11 < molz> roasbeef, what caused this to his channel: https://paste.debian.net/1024525/ 15:11 <@roasbeef> that's the other peer disconnecting 15:11 < C-Otto> according to trace debug log it is because of: ID 22 in channel 522308:278:0 15:12 < C-Otto> 2018-05-13 21:12:37.883 [TRC] PEER: Disconnecting 13.92.254.226:9735, reason: unable to settle incoming HTLC: No HTLC with ID 22 in channel 522308:278:0 15:12 < C-Otto> which actually is an error: 2018-05-13 21:12:37.883 [ERR] HSWC: unable to settle incoming HTLC: No HTLC with ID 22 in channel 522308:278:0 15:12 <@roasbeef> they tried to settle an htlc that didn't actually exist 15:12 <@roasbeef> from your PoV that is 15:12 <@roasbeef> so we detect that as a protocol violation 15:13 < C-Otto> /home/bitcoin/.lnd/logs/bitcoin/mainnet/lnd.log:2018-05-13 10:26:47.267 [ERR] HSWC: ChannelLink(522308:278:0) unhandled error while forwarding htlc packet over htlcswitch: unable to find link with destination 522194:1553:1 15:14 < C-Otto> /home/bitcoin/.lnd/logs/bitcoin/mainnet/lnd.log:2018-05-13 15:08:23.892 [INF] HSWC: Trimming open circuits for chan_id=522308:278:0, start_htlc_id=0 15:14 < C-Otto> that was the last related message before the error popped up 15:15 < C-Otto> I restarted my node then 15:16 <@roasbeef> yeh so according to that, you've never made an outbound HTLC from that channel 15:16 <@roasbeef> so there woudl be no HTLC that the remote node would settle 15:16 <@roasbeef> there was a bug fixed recently that could cause some of the internal indexing within the htlcswitch to get crossed when one had a series of pending channels 15:17 <@roasbeef> not sure what impl that remote node was using though 15:17 <@roasbeef> the switch is basically what makes forwarding decisions in the daemon, like a normal network switch kinda 15:17 < C-Otto> OK, I had issues with pending channels, hence the restarts 15:17 < C-Otto> let's hope it is fixed, I'm running a recent master commit now 15:17 <@roasbeef> gotcha, so you only recently updated to master? 15:18 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:18 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 15:18 < C-Otto> yeah, 90 minutes ago 15:20 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:20 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 15:25 < StopAndDecrypt> anyone here know if backing up hsm_secret in c-lightning just once is enough, even if i open up new channels in the future? 15:25 < StopAndDecrypt> as in, does it use an HD system for new channels, or should i be backing it up with new channel openings? 15:32 -!- lukedashjr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 15:33 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:38 -!- lukedashjr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:39 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 15:39 < C-Otto> is there a way to pause a channel? disconnecting doesn't work, and I don't want to close the channel 15:40 <@roasbeef> StopAndDecrypt: idk what it uses for key derivation, afaik not really documented anywhere 15:40 < C-Otto> my rebalance attempts don't work, as the funds I sent away now come back through the very same channel (which makes sense...) 15:40 <@roasbeef> there's a ton of keys beyond just regular wallet works 15:40 <@roasbeef> C-Otto: pause? well the channel will say open until either side closes it 15:40 < C-Otto> I'll just use the firewall :) 15:41 <@roasbeef> StopAndDecrypt: also i think the hsm_secret is actually stored in plaintext on disk? 15:41 <@roasbeef> StopAndDecrypt: afaik there's not yet like an auotmated rescan process, so if you needed to recover, you would need to like start up then spam a bunch of addresses and hope you spammed enough to recover the set of funds 15:44 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit 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-!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 19:32 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:33 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:39 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:42 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-66-67-61-98.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 19:49 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:54 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:56 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:05 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:09 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11 -!- quitobro 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Is this cost prohibitive to host? 20:21 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:25 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:42 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:53 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@ool-44c11be6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lnd 20:57 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:57 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 21:08 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:09 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:13 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:17 < molz> bobbberb, are you still on the slack? someone is trying to help you there 21:18 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:24 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:29 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:40 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:49 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:51 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:54 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:54 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:a45d:823b:2d27:961c] has joined #lnd 21:54 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:a45d:823b:2d27:961c] has quit [Changing host] 21:54 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 21:56 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:00 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:02 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 22:10 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:14 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-66-67-61-98.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 22:17 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:25 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 22:27 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:33 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:48 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51 <@roasbeef> bobbberb: transfering? it's just lnd talking to bitcoind 22:51 <@roasbeef> it shouldn't cause your bitcoind to do any additional p2p traffic, just rpc traffic 22:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:04 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:11 < bobbberb> @roasbeef let me send you a screenshot 23:12 <@roasbeef> p2p traffic? 23:12 <@roasbeef> there's no aspect of lnd that will make your node fetch more p2p traffic 23:12 <@roasbeef> if we're asking for output spentness, or like fetching headers, then that's normal 23:13 < bobbberb> "[DBG] PEER: Sending NodeAnnouncement(node=0332052748755d74b3395b91eaea78b53bd64b55eb031 ccb6a7ae23ac445bb6af7, update_time=2018-05-12 21:57:52 -0400 EDT) to 52.166.89.83:9735" 23:15 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:15 <@roasbeef> this is a branch new lnd? 23:17 < bobbberb> This is a fresh go get as far as I can remember 23:17 < bobbberb> I just completed a tmux log, will post to pastebin now 23:18 < molz> what's wrong with it? 23:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:21 < bobbberb> https://paste.ee/p/DJDeW 23:22 < bobbberb> It's never ending 23:23 <@roasbeef> you can reduce the logging if you'd like 23:24 < bobbberb> roasbeef: Either this is normal sync and I'm a dumb first timer or I'm very confused - shouldn't I have no traffic aside from the boostrap onto the peer list? 23:24 <@roasbeef> you're exchanging network info 23:24 < bobbberb> this is a TON of traffic, no? A constant 40mbit/s tx? 23:24 <@roasbeef> the burst will go away once a PR using a more streamlined reconcilliation protocol is in 23:25 <@roasbeef> it's transient 23:25 < bobbberb> "burst" as in if I let this ride it will cool off to a more humble baseline? 23:25 <@roasbeef> yes 23:25 < bobbberb> Comprendo. 23:26 < molz> bobbberb, did you run c-lightning before? 23:26 < bobbberb> Haven't had my bitcoind daemon spun up since height 200,000 23:26 < bobbberb> It's been a bit :) 23:26 <@roasbeef> well you should wait for it to sync first bobbberb 23:27 <@roasbeef> lnd requires the proper view from the end of the main chain 23:27 <@roasbeef> otherwise it doesn't know which outputs are spent 23:27 < bobbberb> Oh I understand this for sure. I just didn't comprehend the amount of data I'd be exchaning with global peers. 23:28 < molz> for some reason your IP attracts a lot of peers, it must have been around these other nodes 23:30 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-95-227.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:30 < bobbberb> Closeness physically or in XOR space like MAIDSAFE?? 23:30 < bobbberb> HAha :D 23:31 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-95-227.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net] has joined #lnd 23:31 -!- Empact [~textual@192-195-80-238.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined #lnd 23:32 < molz> no, looks like you ran c-lightning before and it was in companion with a bunch of spammy nodes 23:41 < bobbberb> molz: I have never installed c-lightning 23:42 < molz> when i get a new IP and launch a new lnd node, it has no peer 23:43 < bobbberb> This is my mystery 23:43 < molz> then i connect it to one IP, it starts to have a few peers, but not a whole village like this 23:43 < bobbberb> Right 23:47 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ojdisbzgismsraeb] has joined #lnd 23:50 -!- bobbberb [6422b5be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.100.34.181.190] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:52 < molz> [INF] SRVR: Creating DNS peer bootstrapper with seeds: [[nodes.lightning.directory soa.nodes.lightning.directory]] <== maybe this overworks? 23:53 < molz> we used to have a lot complaints that lnd had no bootstrap