--- Day changed Mon May 14 2018 00:35 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 00:36 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 00:40 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has joined #lnd 00:40 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 00:54 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:08 -!- fddsafsd [~sdfgsdfg@176.33.236.80] has joined #lnd 01:13 -!- yaslama [~yaslama@bzq-218-78-150.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 01:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:22 < C-Otto> The following command blocked, although I did not specify --block. After cancelling (CTRL+C) the funds are not returned to my wallet (walletbalance). Why does it block? Where are my funds? 01:23 < C-Otto> lncli openchannel 032b2b3f4abda9677bb9563e226c068d3a2456fb8b036635a81c9bcaa1671d1ada 147555 5000 01:23 < C-Otto> The channel does not appear in pendingchannels/listchannels 01:27 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:28 < C-Otto> Ah, I hit a timeout now, funds are back 01:29 < molz> didn't you say you banned their IP? 01:31 < fddsafsd> anyone here have instagram ? 01:31 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 01:32 < fddsafsd> lets meetup 01:32 < fddsafsd> i want to meet fellow bitcoin enthusiasts 01:32 < fddsafsd> and devs 01:33 < molz> they're going to have a lot meetups in nyc the next few days 01:34 < fddsafsd> youre not coming mollz ? where do you meetup 01:34 < C-Otto> molz: that was another host, and I unbanned it 01:35 < C-Otto> [ERR] FNDG: Unable to complete reservation sign complete: Transaction rejected: output already spent 01:35 < C-Otto> Now how did I manage to do that? :) 01:35 < fddsafsd> new york is damn far =/ 01:35 < molz> fddsafsd, it's Consensys thing 01:35 < fddsafsd> ew, I know all the australian branch engineers 01:36 < fddsafsd> I dont like consensys 01:36 < molz> well there're other meetups besides that 01:36 < fddsafsd> hostile homosexual pessimist ethereum enthusiasts. They hate sunshine 01:37 < fddsafsd> LOL 01:37 < molz> :P 01:37 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:39 < C-Otto> RPCS: unable to force close transaction: unable to find arbitrator 01:39 < C-Otto> OK. Somehow I tried to open a channel with funds that are spent already. Now I have a pending channel which I'm unable to close 01:42 < molz> force close it 01:44 < C-Otto> That didn't work before, now it does (after a restart) 01:45 < C-Otto> Is there a way to reconstruct the wallet balance? That seems to be off 01:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 01:52 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77-85-34-21.ip.btc-net.bg] has joined #lnd 01:53 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77-85-34-21.ip.btc-net.bg] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:53 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77-85-34-21.ip.btc-net.bg] has joined #lnd 01:55 < C-Otto> The funding transaction for one (active) channel is missing in listchaintxns, and the corresponding funds are still shown in my wallet 02:18 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 02:38 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77-85-34-21.ip.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:59 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@85-118-74-155.mtel.net] has joined #lnd 03:08 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 03:21 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #lnd 03:28 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:28 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 03:31 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:31 -!- sovjet_ is now known as sovjet 03:36 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 03:39 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:41 < waxwing> what's the record number of hops people have seen doing random payments? i got 5 just now :) 03:42 < waxwing> i guess more than 6 would be incredibly unlikely, realistically 04:07 -!- xethron [~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron] has joined #lnd 04:08 < xethron> I would like to return my coins to the faucet. How do I initiate a payment without an existing invoice over an active channel? 04:18 -!- Xethron_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/xethron] has joined #lnd 04:21 < xethron> Seems like the only way to do this is to do it on chain, or close the connection and create a new connection? 04:22 < xethron> (New connection with initial push amt) 04:24 < C-Otto> both are on chain :) 04:24 < C-Otto> as far as I know you'd need an invoice 04:26 < waxwing> yeah believe so; which faucet are we talking about? one i saw allowed you to generate an invoice 04:31 < xethron> I was using https://faucet.lightning.community 04:35 -!- Empact [~textual@192-195-80-238.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:37 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-66-67-61-98.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 04:51 < C-Otto> I don't think there's a need to return coins, it's testnet... 04:52 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] mrwhythat closed pull request #344: [WIP] Macaroon-specific tests (master...macaroon-tests) https://git.io/vdvdv 04:58 -!- xethron [~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:02 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:03 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 05:08 < Veggen> well. They're not worth anything, but they're still a scarce resource, sort of :) 05:17 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 05:18 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has joined #lnd 05:21 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:23 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #1245: [test] add TestChannelArbitratorLocalForceDoubleSpend (master...chanarb-test-publish-doublespend) https://git.io/vpHBs 05:27 -!- pierre_rochard [~pierre_ro@unaffiliated/pierre-rochard/x-3593157] has joined #lnd 05:31 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 05:31 -!- xethron [~Xethron@dsl-197-245-240-149.voxdsl.co.za] has joined #lnd 05:35 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #lnd 06:13 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-087-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:24 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 06:26 < lndbot1> you can return them to the hamburg faucet, I know I personally use this one all the time https://testnet.manu.backend.hamburg/faucet 06:45 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@ool-44c11be6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@85-118-74-155.mtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:50 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: richard87] 06:51 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@193.189.166.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 07:09 -!- dymurray [dymurray@nat/redhat/x-otvgkububvtjlpmn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:11 -!- dymurray_ [dymurray@nat/redhat/x-ushglbyjwihbpneg] has joined #lnd 07:13 -!- dymurray_ is now known as dymurray 07:30 -!- rtgnx [~rtgnx@51.15.89.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:44 -!- xethron [~Xethron@dsl-197-245-240-149.voxdsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:48 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:51 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 07:52 -!- xethron [~Xethron@dsl-197-245-240-149.voxdsl.co.za] has joined #lnd 07:59 -!- rtgnx [~rtgnx@51.15.89.67] has joined #lnd 08:17 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 08:19 < waxwing> guys, just a sanity check: if i see "total_amt": 5004 in the output from sendpayment, it's 5004 satoshis right? adam levine is telling me he's only received 5000 *milli*satoshis, but i'm sure that's wrong. 08:22 < molz> waxwing, correct 08:24 < waxwing> lol to be fair to him, it is damn confusing. like the app he used, i had to enter 0.00005000 , there was no "satoshi" option. 08:24 < waxwing> well, there was a USD/EUR etc option but i never like using those. 08:28 < grubles> i don't think lnd supposes sub-satoshi amounts yet? 08:29 < grubles> even in c-lightning it's confusing. "satoshis" are used in some output while "millisatoshis" are used in others. 08:31 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32 < waxwing> right i think that must be what he's experiencing there. 08:32 < waxwing> hmm is it normal for sendpayment to sort of get "lost" and hang for minutes at a time? i've seen it a couple of times in the last couple of days. 08:32 < waxwing> i think yesterday i killed it once after 5-10 minutes + 08:33 < lndbot1> are you on a recent commit? 08:34 < waxwing> good Q. I think it's been 2-3 weeks since i updated. 08:34 < waxwing> maybe a bit more, even. 08:34 < lndbot1> might want to take a look at updating, I don’t remember exactly how long ago it was but better payment handling was added and it should now timeout pretty quickly if it’ll never succeed 08:35 < lndbot1> plus a whole host of other new stuff 08:41 < Veggen> this is the reason my shop doesn't show it in bitcoin :) 08:42 < Veggen> I'd add satoshis, I think. 08:43 < waxwing> right. i think sats is fine. all this "bits" arguments are unnecessary. 08:43 < waxwing> people can handle numbers like 10K easily; they're just irrationally afraid of decimals/fractions. 08:44 < lndbot1> yeah, the sooner we get onto satoshis the better, because one day we may have to softfork more precision 08:46 < Veggen> gonna look at my currency switcher thing, today, I think. 08:47 < Veggen> question is, switch to satoshi as prime currency? 08:49 < lndbot1> and offer a quick conversion to local currency I guess 08:50 < lndbot1> It’s idealistic to start thinking of dollars per satoshi, but one day… 08:56 < Veggen> I sell cheap stuff. In cents, not dollars :) 08:57 < lndbot1> yeah, but I mean the opposite of BTC per $ 08:57 < Veggen> okok. that might change, if I actually find something more valuable than random travel photos to sell :) 08:58 < Veggen> (shop is more like proof of concept, but one has to sell something? ;) 08:59 < buZz> in my mind its ~11000 sat per USD 08:59 < buZz> am i right? 08:59 < buZz> 17:59:50 1 USD = 0.00011345 BTC 09:00 < buZz> jah :D 09:02 -!- xethron [~Xethron@dsl-197-245-240-149.voxdsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 09:02 -!- xethron [~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron] has joined #lnd 09:35 < molz> waxwing, so far i haven't got more than 5 hops in my txs.. and only got 5 hops on testnet, haven't seen on mainnet yet, the max i've got on mainnet is 3 hops 09:42 < waxwing> yeah. i got it this morning. it took ages to go through but kinda cool still. 09:42 < waxwing> also, on advice, i updated, and i found payments that were hanging went through immediately (couple of hops) 09:43 < waxwing> i don't know whether it was a code update, or more likely i guess, that the restart and update involved rebuilding the graph? 09:45 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48 -!- drrty2 [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has joined #lnd 09:48 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49 -!- fddsafsd [~sdfgsdfg@176.33.236.80] has quit [Quit: fddsafsd] 09:52 < molz> waxwing, me and rompert found something about pruning from my attempt to pay nicolas' btcpay site via acinq but it failed, it was because of a flapping node i had a channel with, so i closed that channel and it worked 09:52 < molz> and roasbeef fixed this 09:54 < molz> i opened a channel with ACINQ node after one of the devs said he opened and paid Nicolas on his btcpay site, so in theory i should be able to pay Nicolas but it failed 09:54 < molz> and from the log it was another channel with a flapping node that prevented this, but also lnd pruned the search and stopped looking for this route with ACINQ 10:09 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 < molz> so i guess the routing got a bit better as the result of this and our payments can route better? :D 10:20 < waxwing> molz, interesting, so "flapping node" is one that disconnects/reconnects all the time? 10:21 < molz> waxwing, well from what we saw on the slack, the owner changed his fee to 0, the default ln fee is 1 sat which is already low.. i'm guessing it messed with the fee logic or something 10:23 < molz> i also did a quick test on testnet.. as long as i had other peers with lower fees even if they don't have liquidity, my nodes with higher fees can't route 10:23 < molz> s/had/have 10:24 < molz> so i get rid of those other channels with other nodes, ban them, only 3 nodes left with high fees.. they can route each other's paymentss 10:25 < molz> now i haven't tested 0 fee yet but i assume it's about the same logic 10:25 < waxwing> hmm i think it's supposed to work fine with 0 fees, eh 10:26 < molz> well the flapping node was online, not offline so the only thing i could think of was his 0 fee 10:27 < lndbot1> I wonder if it’s port forwarding issues - the flapping node can only make outbound connections. you want to route a payment, try to connect, failure 10:27 < molz> i had a channel with plenty of liquidity with the flapping node 10:28 < molz> lol it doesn't have port forwarding issue, it has hundreds of channels 10:29 < molz> so the idea "connect with a node that has a bunch of channels" is a fallacy 10:29 < lndbot1> well, I’m saying it could open channels all day since it can reach everyone else 10:29 < molz> huh? 10:29 < lndbot1> but in order to use a node, you need to communicate to them 10:29 < molz> huh? 10:30 < molz> it's skyrus node, dude 10:30 < lndbot1> so I’m thinking even if the channel says “active”, nodes without ports forwarded might not be useful to route payments 10:30 < molz> ok none of what you've said applies here 10:30 < lndbot1> yeah, he’s had portforward issues the entire time, I think 10:31 < lndbot1> my bad, guess I’m off base 10:32 -!- simlay1 [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- simlay1 [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 10:39 < molz> i mean it could be that his node was unstable, but i tried to make that payment a few times and it failed until i closed his channel, also hadn't seen him talk about his node down for a while so i assumed it was stable then 10:39 < molz> until today.. his node is down again? lol 10:41 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 10:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:49 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 10:57 -!- a87ry5 [~a87ry5@cpe-158-222-196-182.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 11:21 -!- xethron [~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:27 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 11:32 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:51 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 12:01 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 12:04 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 12:05 -!- LndRayz [2d4994d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.73.148.210] has joined #lnd 12:06 < LndRayz> Attempting to host my LND node locally at my house, Setup port forwarding and set the public address on my lnd config, whats the best way to test/confirm other clients can connect to my node (mainnet) 12:07 < LndRayz> I do see my node on the network visualizers, is that sufficient to assume a secondary node could establish a channel with it? 12:09 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wpaulino opened pull request #1246: fundingmanager+config: increase max funding amount 60x under Litecoin (master...bump-ltc-limits) https://git.io/vpQ83 12:10 -!- a87ry5 [~a87ry5@cpe-158-222-196-182.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:16 -!- LndRayz [2d4994d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.73.148.210] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:21 < lndbot1> If you count the destination as a hop I’ve had 6 hop payments 12:44 < molz> yea i count the dest as a hop, i should open a channel with yalls to find the 6th hop lol 12:50 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 12:57 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:04 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 13:10 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 13:11 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:13 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:14 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 13:19 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:20 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lnd 13:25 -!- xethron [~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron] has joined #lnd 13:29 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 13:48 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 14:19 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:32 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:37 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 14:38 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:40 <@roasbeef> waxwing: gotta consider fees as well 14:44 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:45 -!- xethron [~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:45 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 14:45 < waxwing> hmm no surely a hop is a channel! cheaters :) 14:46 < waxwing> roasbeef, not sure i get the context 14:48 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 14:50 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 14:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:01 <@roasbeef> waxwing: there's a diameter field in getnetworkinfo that isn't filled in atm, but i think the PR is being revived, so willbe able to track that easily no w 15:02 < waxwing> i see roasbeef . did you mean, "gotta consider fees" in the context of, how many hops? i.e. more hops will be generally not chosen due to higher fees? if so, sure, was just curious/interested in seeing LN at its limits :) 15:03 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 15:03 <@roasbeef> C-Otto: if it isn't in listchaintxns, then it's because we removed it as the transaction was rejected 15:05 < C-Otto> but the channel is open with that transaction... 15:05 < C-Otto> and it works :) 15:05 <@roasbeef> waxwing: not normal, but if you attempt to route through a node that is faulty for w/e reason (many are since most don't really monitor their nodes or keep up to date), then they may not continue to extend the htlc 15:06 <@roasbeef> waxwing: nothing to do with an update on your end, but could be due to lack of an update on the end of other nodes on the network 15:09 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 15:09 <@roasbeef> C-Otto: so you don't see your inputs being spent? 15:10 <@roasbeef> waxwing: ah i meant like you sent 5004, but dest got 5k, 4 came from fees 15:11 < waxwing> oh the confusion about amount was just some silliness. i think it might have been to do with him having c-lightning and getting confused about millisatoshis. nothing was unclear on this end roasbeef 15:12 < C-Otto> roasbeef: not in lnd, but everywhere else 15:14 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:14 < C-Otto> roasbeef: as I said in the issue, lnd thinks the output is not spent, but it actually is used for a channel that lnd opened itself 15:16 < molz> C-Otto, no, i looked at that tx you talked about, it's a htlc amount that had to go thru stage 15:17 < molz> so whoever you sent that amount, they got it in stage 15:17 < C-Otto> molz: I edited the txn id a few seconds after opening the issue, but let me re-check 15:17 < molz> stage 2* 15:18 < C-Otto> molz: are we talking about tx 2e719e9407a128c76e15d190a133d929ff7d229f4ac639b3611251858118c049 and its input? 15:19 < molz> i don't think it's this one 15:19 <@roasbeef> that's an htlc 15:19 <@roasbeef> actually just a rare 1-in-1 out funding 15:20 < C-Otto> roasbeef: that's the funding transaction of an active channel 15:20 < molz> C-Otto, i'm talking about what you said here: C-Otto> The remote node immediately spent its funds after I closed the channel. Is there a good reason for that? I'd say it's not worth the fees. https://blockchain.info/tx/95fac74765e9cbf295a0208e755d1d15e1c9779b24466eae3d93ad4c40196e71 15:20 < C-Otto> molz: Ah, OK. Sorry, I was talking about github #1244 :) 15:21 < C-Otto> I don't understand what you said about the HTLC/stage2, but it seems to be OK. Just looked weird to me 15:21 < molz> C-Otto, ah sorry, i thought you were talking about that tx 15:23 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:24 <@roasbeef> C-Otto: yep it's a funding tx, but what seems to have happened it that you tried to open a channel multuple times in successsion, and one of them actually double spent a prior input? 15:25 < C-Otto> roasbeef: that could be the root cause, aborting and retrying again due to impatience most likely 15:26 <@roasbeef> impatience? it's typically pretty quick, just a few round trips 15:26 <@roasbeef> do you have logs of where it took some tie? 15:26 <@roasbeef> time* 15:28 < molz> interesting it can be doublespent? 15:29 <@roasbeef> well we lock each input to avoid this 15:30 <@roasbeef> there's a lock during coin selection, then we lock each of the inpiuts we _may_ use for funding 15:30 <@roasbeef> that's meant to avoid cases like this 15:30 <@roasbeef> so any additionnal info would be super helpful, and may lead to a bug fix 15:33 < C-Otto> roasbeef: I guess I cancelled after 10 seconds or so 15:33 < C-Otto> I have the logs, I guess you're interested in channel creation? 15:35 < C-Otto> fthttps://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/~cotto/lnd.log.1 15:35 < C-Otto> https://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/~cotto/lnd.log.1 15:36 < C-Otto> grep 2e719e9407a128c76e15d190a133d929ff7d229f4ac639b3611251858118c049 in that 15:37 < C-Otto> I don't see any attempt to open the channel twice, though 15:38 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 15:42 < C-Otto> Finalized kindergarten at height=522703 15:42 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-135-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 15:42 < C-Otto> ...what? OK. Funny. 15:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:47 <@roasbeef> lol 15:48 <@roasbeef> you can have "immature" outputs at times 15:48 <@roasbeef> which only become "mature" after a timlock has passed 15:48 <@roasbeef> the utxoNursery takes care of these outputs, and sees them through to graduation (post kindergarten) 15:48 <@roasbeef> we like to have fun with names at times :p 15:48 < C-Otto> I see :D 15:49 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 15:56 -!- ghost43_ is now known as ghost43 15:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vpQ9I 15:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master cc494bd Jasper: docs/INSTALL: update non-make installation to include lncli ... 15:58 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:59 < C-Otto> roasbeef: any idea how I can rebuild the wallet (mark the output as spent)? 15:59 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vpQ9C 15:59 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master c96d07c tyzbit: docs: add note about bitcoind with multiple lnd instances 16:00 <@roasbeef> the output should already be marked as spent, is it that any channel you create now tries to spend that output? 16:01 < C-Otto> roasbeef: it is not, it is shown as confirmed/available. And, yes, I also managed to open a channel where this (already spent) output was used, resulting in weird errors 16:01 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 <@roasbeef> how are you listing the set of outputs? 16:01 <@roasbeef> you're deducing this from walletbalance? 16:02 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 16:02 < C-Otto> I can't :) The number of satoshis matches, I don't have any other funds (a bit of dust, but I know the exact amount) 16:02 < C-Otto> And I think I saw the transaction id in the log output when opening a new channel, I'm not sure though 16:03 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 16:04 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 16:06 <@roasbeef> hmm, ok will take a look at the logs you sent above, thanks 16:06 < C-Otto> thank you! and good night :) 16:09 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:14 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:14 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 16:19 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 16:24 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:35 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 16:40 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:51 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 16:52 -!- django [~django@s91904427.blix.com] has joined #lnd 16:54 < django> Was thinking up updating. Has there been any braking code or is it safe to update the git code. I am on 0.4.1 16:56 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vpQ5e 16:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master ec93bf5 Johan T. Halseth: contractcourt test: add TestChannelArbitratorLocalForceDoubleSpend... 16:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 70a5444 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #1245 from halseth/chanarb-test-publish-doublespend... 17:02 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04 < molz> django, it's ok to update and get the latest master 17:07 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:12 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:12 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 17:14 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #1203: routing+server: add new QueryBandwidth method to reduce outbound fail… (master...router-view-switch) https://git.io/vpK9T 17:14 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:15 < django> molz thx works perfect. 17:16 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 17:17 < django> Was reading a little about AMP. Sounds way cool. Any ETA on when we might start seeing it? As it is now when I try to buy stuff for say 15-20 bucks I get issues. 17:17 < django> ETA as in this year or next =P 17:19 -!- pierre_rochard [~pierre_ro@unaffiliated/pierre-rochard/x-3593157] has quit [Quit: pierre_rochard] 17:19 < molz> hm im not sure when we'll have that, i'd love to see "splicing" too 17:23 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:27 < molz> waxwing, i guess this is from you: "total_satoshis_received": "5004", i earned 1 sat, thank you :D 17:27 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:28 < molz> my channel liquidity with Veggen is almost exhausted after two months 17:38 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:54 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:07 -!- fitzsim 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