--- Day changed Sun Jun 03 2018 00:19 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 00:20 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 00:29 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 01:31 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 01:40 -!- camulos [~user@125.161.129.135] has left #lnd [] 02:27 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:29 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:32 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:35 -!- BashCo__ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:36 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:37 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:38 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:41 -!- BashCo__ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:42 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:43 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:48 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:53 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:55 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:57 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 02:59 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03 -!- TheAceOfHearts [~TheAceOfH@2601:647:4700:ed6a:9842:c084:ecde:abdd] has quit [Quit: TheAceOfHearts] 03:17 -!- thestudent [8fb00c79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.143.176.12.121] has joined #lnd 03:20 < thestudent> Hi! could anyone tell me what lines to edit to log commitment transactions? (I don't know any GO) I will send you a donation of 0.005 bitcoin :) 03:27 < molz> thestudent, send the donation first 03:28 < thestudent> can do that if you have something i can verify your legitimacy with 03:28 < molz> yea same for the other person to question your legitimacy 03:29 < thestudent> you have a github account? 03:37 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 03:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 03:52 < Veggen> first, no need to pay. In bitoin community, we do help each others. What do you mean with "commitment transactions"? 03:53 < Veggen> lnd logs a lot already, if you just tune the loglevel correctly. 04:00 < thestudent> logging the latest commitment transaction, like for example after alice sends a payment to bob over lightning and a new commitment transaction is made 04:01 < thestudent> or a different way to get access to the latest commitment transaction without broadcasting it 04:05 < Veggen> not sure it'd be easy to get the transaction just as that. I'd read what happens on a force-close, i.e. how the force-close transaction is assembled/submitted. 04:12 -!- MrVisioN [5f1659aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.22.89.170] has joined #lnd 04:16 < MrVisioN> Is there a payment processor that allows merchants to accept LN payments? 04:16 < Veggen> a few. 04:16 < Veggen> BTCPay supports c-lightning/lightning charge, and LND support is at least underway. 04:16 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC463BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 04:16 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC463BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 04:16 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 04:17 < Veggen> woocommece has a lightning payment method in development, too. 04:17 < Veggen> (for LND) 04:17 < Veggen> the last one, I am using. 04:17 < MrVisioN> Thanks for the info, i'm going to check them. 04:18 < MrVisioN> Also, I'm willing to create a LN based business, is there something you might feel is needed? 04:18 < Veggen> want to see the woocommerce in action, check https://random.engen.priv.no/ 04:19 < Veggen> first, integrating LN support into various ecommerce stuff is needed. 04:19 < Veggen> POS solutions are going to help too. 04:19 < MrVisioN> I created a (failed due regulations in my country) payment processor in the past. For my experience, merchants want fiat. 04:20 < Veggen> that's definitely a hurdle. 04:20 < MrVisioN> Maybe something in between the bitcoin user and coinbase/bitpay ticket payment would be nice 04:20 < Veggen> so getting exchanges to accept LN transactions are needed. 04:21 < MrVisioN> so users pay using the LN and instantly the platform pays these too using bitcoins 04:21 < Veggen> BTCPay is a bitpay alternative. 04:21 < MrVisioN> yeah, but we need to canibalize them 04:21 < Veggen> BtCPay is open source version. 04:22 < Veggen> not sure if it has fiat conversion though. 04:22 < MrVisioN> we need to canibalize their market, so they will be forced to accept LN (or lose %) 04:22 < MrVisioN> A chrome extension would do the trick 04:23 < Veggen> that is a hurdle. I believe to cannibalize it, you'd need LN-friendly exchanges that makes it easy for anyone to just send off funds via LN, either as soon as they are in their wallet or at certain times. 04:23 < MrVisioN> hmmmm i'm having an idea 04:24 < MrVisioN> LEts say I create a chrome plugin 04:24 < Veggen> ...via APIs. So that the woocommerce lightning network payment method can send off the funds to their exchange at once. 04:24 < MrVisioN> whenever the extension sees a bitcoin qr, you can just click on it and it shows a LN QR, so you can pay to it 04:24 < MrVisioN> (using the LN) 04:25 < MrVisioN> what happens next, is that my platform, sends the same amount you just have sent me to the original bitcoin address 04:25 < MrVisioN> that way, even if bitpay doesn't accept LN payments, you would be able to pay 04:25 < MrVisioN> what do you think about this solution? 04:26 < Veggen> hmm..isn't this more or less submarine swaps? 04:27 < MrVisioN> the opposite i believe 04:27 < MrVisioN> I believe with those you pay LN invoices 04:27 < MrVisioN> using bitcoins 04:28 < MrVisioN> I want you to be able to pay BITCOIN invoices, using LN payments 04:28 < Veggen> well, yah. but isn't it basically the same but in reverse? 04:28 < MrVisioN> yeah, and for one reason 04:28 < MrVisioN> we need to be able to pay using the LN to every BitPay and Coinbase merchant 04:29 < MrVisioN> and they are not willing to integrate (anytime soon) 04:29 < Veggen> respChan := make(chan *wire.MsgTx, 1) 04:29 < Veggen> oops. 04:29 < Veggen> MrVision: they'll come around. 04:29 < Veggen> ...or lose business. 04:29 < MrVisioN> that's the main goal of my idea 04:29 < MrVisioN> force them to kill me 04:29 < MrVisioN> by adopting LN 04:30 < MrVisioN> (or lose money) 04:30 < MrVisioN> what do you think? 04:31 < Veggen> well. there's the on-chain fees etc. 04:31 < Veggen> and the difficulty in how to calculate them. 04:31 < MrVisioN> Let's say i can work around that 04:31 < MrVisioN> for instance i can make batches of transactions 04:32 < Veggen> my jury is out. whether or not this is good, or if time is better spend creating alternatives to bitpay :) 04:32 < MrVisioN> but does the business model look like something people would use? 04:32 < Veggen> I think they might use it. 04:33 < MrVisioN> as i said i already failed creating an alternative to bitpay because the market is now very regulated, so you need big cash to get the license 04:33 < MrVisioN> thanks for your feedback, i'm going to call my CTO 04:33 < Veggen> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7xcxcs/coinbase_integration_with_lightning_alpha_demo/ 04:34 < MrVisioN> lets see what he thinks 04:34 < Veggen> is also related. 04:34 < MrVisioN> thanks! 04:35 < Veggen> the fiat-to-crypto-and-back is always where the regulatory issues are going to be. 04:38 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 04:45 < thestudent> not sure it'd be easy to get the transaction just as that. I'd read what happens on a force-close, i.e. how the force-close transaction is assembled/submitted. 04:45 < thestudent> Thanks Veggen I found a function called getSignedCommitTx 04:46 < thestudent> Now need to figure out of how to to call it (dont know Go...) :/ 04:46 < thestudent> That's why I offered a donation 04:48 -!- dee-sai [~dalitsair@31.10.149.69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:49 -!- dee-sai [~dalitsair@31.10.149.69] has joined #lnd 04:50 < Veggen> there's a testnet. go on, try. 04:55 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:56 < thestudent> alright thanks for the encouragement, appriciate it. 04:56 < thestudent> appreciate* 04:56 -!- Pioklo__ [~Pioklo@188.146.132.19.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined #lnd 04:58 -!- dalitsairio [~dalitsair@2a02:aa10:e87f:6280:75f1:5363:b565:ec69] has joined #lnd 05:00 -!- dee-sai [~dalitsair@31.10.149.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:07 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:08 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:08 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has joined #lnd 05:09 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 05:09 < Veggen> thestudent, and btw: If you want to use this to try to broadcast old transactions, please do :) I love free BTC! 05:10 < Veggen> :-) (that's one usecase for getting/keeping old commitment transactions) 05:11 < thestudent> [=^.^=] 05:12 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-94-254-147-60.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 05:13 < thestudent> I just want to learn and see how this tx is created in reality, by having the 'solution' already it makes it easier for me 05:13 < thestudent> And maybe play around with the scripts 05:13 < Veggen> yah. 05:14 < Veggen> Go isnt that hard, actually. 05:16 -!- Pioklo__ [~Pioklo@188.146.132.19.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:16 < thestudent> I agree the code looks quite clean 05:17 < thestudent> Still when new to a language it takes quite a while to get into it, atleast for me 05:17 < Veggen> sure. 05:17 < Veggen> but there's nothing as good as a problem you want solved to make you learn it quick :) 05:18 < thestudent> True that :) 05:18 < Veggen> I find that learning something without having immediate need of using it is not motivating at all. 05:18 < Veggen> unless it's super-fun, like maths :) 05:20 < thestudent> haha 05:43 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:47 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:08 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 06:17 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-94-254-147-60.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:17 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 06:39 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:42 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 06:54 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 07:57 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 08:39 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 08:50 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC4648F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 08:50 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC4648F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 08:50 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 08:57 < PatBoy> hi, what happen if a pending_force_closing_channels never confirm (low fee) 09:01 < thestudent> I just force closed a channel on testnet, but I dont see the scripts im expecting like one output with OP_CSV? : https://testnet.blockchain.info/tx/b13d6894217f3dc0604cd81d5c8fcc4ffa3705b3efcd806d927878edfc33e4ce?show_adv=true&format=json 09:03 < thestudent> Or this is a cooperative close? mmm 09:14 < thestudent> no the lnd daemon says its a pending force close channel 09:15 < molz> PatBoy, you just have to ask a miner to mine it 09:16 < Veggen> ..and also, force-close fees are intentionally set quite high. 09:16 < Veggen> ...and negotiated as channel properties. 09:24 < molz> i have a forceclosed channel that's still in 'pending', i guess i need to update to see if it's resolved, it's been two weeks, and the amount hasn't gone back to wallet 09:32 < thestudent> molz if you do lncli pendingchannels 09:32 < thestudent> what does it say at blocks_til_maturity? 09:33 < molz> "blocks_til_maturity": 0, 09:34 < thestudent> then you should be able to spent that output from the force close 09:35 < thestudent> but idk i also just force closed a channel, it has 1189 blocks left till maturity but the amount is back in the wallet when i do lncli walletbalance 09:35 < thestudent> ?:D 09:37 < molz> no, we had some bugs that just got fixed, this tx was done before the updates 09:38 < molz> holycow.. i just opened a channel on testnet, feesize: 500 sat/byte 09:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 09:59 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has quit [Quit: .] 10:05 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:05 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has joined #lnd 10:12 < thestudent> could anyone explain where the script with OP_IF with penalty tx and OP_ELSE with OP_CSV is supposed to be in this force closed channel? https://testnet.blockchain.info/tx/b13d6894217f3dc0604cd81d5c8fcc4ffa3705b3efcd806d927878edfc33e4ce?show_adv=true&format=json 10:12 < thestudent> im confused 10:14 < lndbot> That is a 2:2 multisig 10:24 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 10:24 < molz> Veggen, it's possible to force close a channel with low fees: https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/faf8f5adfc83d2d59ba7b265c503e04691dff91f56950e8cfa776dab742b328e 10:26 < molz> and here's another one, using bitcoind backend: https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/b77065acc9168dcd6d5eb4024233cd20dfcb91bbb2b66066f38599f9e38b2c26 10:32 < thestudent> also in your force close txs i dont see any csvlock for output 0. eh? 10:38 < molz> what? 10:41 < thestudent> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/03-transactions.md#to_local-output 10:41 < thestudent> this script must be in the output 10:42 < thestudent> one of the outputs 10:42 < thestudent> when force closing 10:43 < molz> what script? 10:44 < molz> are you depending on bc.i to teach you bitcoin? 10:45 < thestudent> i just linked it to you 10:45 < thestudent> what is bc.i 10:45 < thestudent> "to_local Output This output sends funds back to the owner of this commitment transaction and thus must be timelocked using OP_CSV. It can be claimed, without delay, by the other party if they know the revocation private key. The output is a version-0 P2WSH, with a witness script:" 10:46 < thestudent> where is this witness script in our txs that we linked? 10:47 < lndbot> Your transaction isn’t the commitment transaction 10:47 < lndbot> Or at least it’s not spending those outputs, you only see the spending redeem script when you spend the output 10:48 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 10:49 < thestudent> what i linked is a force close commitment tx, tried it again same result 10:50 < thestudent> "you only see the spending redeem script when you spend the output" this i dont understand :/ 10:51 < lndbot> The part of the script that has the logic in it about timelocks is only revealed on the chain when you spend the funds that are limited by the timelock, before that it just exists on the chain as a hash of that script 10:52 < thestudent> okay i have to think about this for a bit, thanks 11:01 < molz> Veggen, hah.. so those channels i forceclosed they were online, but for an offline channel it makes me pay a high fee.. https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/5cf5b0be30731a82fa150dcf0f650447d4cb1cdb085f7808496766ddd50a0eed 11:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] rudygodoy opened pull request #1316: Fixed link to /docker/README.md (master...rudygodoy-readme-update) https://git.io/vhllQ 11:57 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:13 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 12:23 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 12:32 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 12:53 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@85-23-137-40.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lnd 13:23 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.156.175.35] has joined #lnd 13:40 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.156.175.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:51 -!- TheAceOfHearts [~TheAceOfH@2601:647:4700:ed6a:109a:6ea2:ab9a:a4c6] has joined #lnd 13:51 -!- zizou [c2607111@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.96.113.17] has joined #lnd 13:53 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 13:54 < zizou> Is there a way to get the txid of a pending channel? 13:55 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:57 < molz> zizou, "lncli pendingchannels" 13:59 < zizou> oh, I assume channel_point is the txid then, without the :0 14:00 < zizou> I think I have encountered a weird bug then. After upgrading to 0.4.2 I suddenly had 117000 sat extra on my walletbalance, I tried to open a channel which shows now on pending_channels, but the txid does not exist on the blockchain 14:01 < zizou> Now I still have the 117000 sat on my walletbalance and 116000sat pending on my channelbalance 14:01 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:01 < zizou> something seems to be stuck here 14:10 <@roasbeef> MrVisioN: kinda defeats the purpose of LN in the first, place, as either you eat the fees or the person paying does 14:10 <@roasbeef> MrVisioN: those merchants will come around eventually once things are mature enough 14:10 -!- TheAceOfHearts [~TheAceOfH@2601:647:4700:ed6a:109a:6ea2:ab9a:a4c6] has quit [Quit: TheAceOfHearts] 14:11 <@roasbeef> zizou: had extra sat? could've been that you had a transaction which was "pending" as if you were using the bitcoind backend, then it'll now detect a greater set of errors from mempool rejections 14:11 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:11 <@roasbeef> txid doesn't exist ont he chain? 14:11 <@roasbeef> check to see if your node rejected it, may be afee issue, which should have been resolve 14:11 <@roasbeef> d 14:13 < zizou> roasbeef, no there was no transaction pending. I just had open some channels without pending ones and also no transaction from or to my bitcoin node. 14:14 < zizou> After updating to 0.4.2 they showed as confirmed balance 14:14 < Veggen> @roasbeef agreed that people will come when they feel they need to. 14:14 < zizou> Those 100k sat never should've been here, coming out of nowhere 14:14 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 14:15 < molz> zizou, if you don't want them, send here :P 14:15 < Veggen> zizou: lncli listchaintxns say anything about 100k satoshi? 14:15 <@roasbeef> zizou: you initiated a channel opening though, check the logs to see if it was broadcast 14:15 < zizou> Well I tried to open a channel and buy stuff with it :p 14:15 < zizou> I certainly want it 14:16 < zizou> ok, will do/try, not too experienced with that stuff 14:18 < zizou> btw. I did use --sat_per_byte 2, but I already did that with couple channels and it always worked so far 14:18 < Veggen> that should be good. 14:27 < molz> zizou, did you say you just tried to open a channel but the tx is not found on any explorer? 14:28 < zizou> Yes, I think I found the problem 14:28 < zizou> 2018-05-31 18:51:13.139 [ERR] FNDG: Unable to complete reservation sign complete: Transaction rejected: output already spent 14:28 -!- TheAceOfHearts [~TheAceOfH@2601:647:4700:ed6a:109a:6ea2:ab9a:a4c6] has joined #lnd 14:28 < zizou> I mean it's quite obvious to me that I just don't have 100k sats to appear on my wallet out of nothing 14:28 < zizou> wouldnt be great for bitcoin if it did that :D 14:29 < zizou> I was just confused it showed as confirmed balance although it was spent before, and its even showing as pending channel although it got rejected 14:30 < zizou> [ERR] FNDG: unable to cancel reservation: unable to cancel reservation: attempted to cancel non-existent funding state 14:30 < zizou> maybe this has something to do with that? 14:30 < zizou> cd 14:30 < zizou> ups 14:31 < zizou> I just tried to use my other 100k sat I don't have (confimed on my walletbalance), and now it shows 0 walletbalance which also is wrong, I should have 12000 14:31 < Veggen> @roasbeef On 0.4.2, should we ever propose 250 sat fee again? thought it was better now? 14:32 < zizou> but I do have a 2nd pending channel with my "fakefunds" 14:33 <@roasbeef> Veggen: yeh should no longer be the case, this is a case of a utxo set getting partially out of sync it looks like 14:33 <@roasbeef> what backend are you using zizou ? 14:34 < zizou> bitcoind 14:34 <@roasbeef> the rejection should cause the transaction itself to be removed in an instance like this 14:34 < Veggen> @roasbeef oh, ok. I was multitasking another issue for a guy on slack :) 14:34 < zizou> it does get rejected it seems, but it shows as pending channel and the walletbalance is all messed up 14:40 < Veggen> @roasbeef - I have a case of a commit fee of 250 leading to a force-close, on 0.4.2 14:41 <@roasbeef> w/ a manually set fee? 14:41 < Veggen> nope. 14:41 < Veggen> 2018-06-03 11:07:32.899 [INF] HSWC: ChannelPoint(c05dc95e51c3fe5d1d09ab406b1e417e77480df6cfa172462863f41b832f2d0b:1): updating commit fee to 250 sat/kw 14:41 < Veggen> (done by node) 14:41 <@roasbeef> hmm, can look into later, busy w/ other things atm 14:41 < Veggen> sure. Should I have him file an issue? 14:42 <@roasbeef> thing is it's still all arbitrary, as nodes will even start to dynamically raise or lower their min fee rate 14:44 < Veggen> I'll have him file an issue :) 14:44 < Veggen> then wpaulino can see if his fee floor code was unsufficient :) 14:48 -!- kim0 [uid105149@ubuntu/member/kim0] has joined #lnd 15:27 -!- zizou [c2607111@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.96.113.17] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:45 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:58 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lnd 16:00 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:10 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:14 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 16:26 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has 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