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I'm starting a new project and I'm having difficulties choosing between Go and Rust. 03:07 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:53 <@roasbeef> ivegotasthma: afaik no, depends if you want to use gRPC or not 03:54 <@roasbeef> BashCo_: yeh you'd need to force close in that state 03:55 <@roasbeef> if they're failing, things get cancelled back, otherwise there was some issue with a node in the path itself, likely just some bug the node an into as everyone has an incentive to keep their commitments as empty as possible 03:55 <@roasbeef> ivegotasthma: so we have a REST api as well 03:56 <@roasbeef> ivegotasthma: what difficulties are you having? 03:56 <@roasbeef> ivegotasthma: https://github.com/stepancheg/grpc-rust https://api.lightning.community/ 03:59 < ivegotasthma> It's about which language would fit better a lapp, because Go's error handling and common footguns put me off. Rust has the edge tech wise, but their async story isn't stable yet, plus the crate ecosystem isn't as mature and if I want to collaborate Go is easier to pickup and find people. 04:00 <@roasbeef> what common foot guns? 04:00 <@roasbeef> error handling is like C for the most part 04:00 <@roasbeef> dunno if i'd say it has the edge, but it certainly has "more" 04:00 <@roasbeef> i fear rust will grow like c++ 04:00 <@roasbeef> just keep adding lang features 04:00 <@roasbeef> while go is small, and has a few key features 04:01 <@roasbeef> ivegotasthma: we've tried to design the rpc interface so w/e lang will work, from there you need to choose gRPC or REST (i prefer gRPC) 04:01 < ivegotasthma> that's what I like about go, it's super clean 04:01 <@roasbeef> yep 04:01 <@roasbeef> imo a programmer to a new team can quickly pick up go and be productive 04:01 <@roasbeef> while a new coder to a rust project, has an up hill battle 04:02 < ivegotasthma> http://devs.cloudimmunity.com/gotchas-and-common-mistakes-in-go-golang/ and say this https://faiface.github.io/post/context-should-go-away-go2/ 04:03 < ivegotasthma> which gives me the impression there's a lot of edges where you can cut yourself on, like C, which I'd like to avoid because I'd be working with people's money 04:04 < ivegotasthma> what's your experience with using Go for LND and other projects? 04:04 < ivegotasthma> roasbeef, 04:05 <@roasbeef> ehhh imo C has waaaaay more sharp edges than go, i've written a ton of go, and imo the edges are super minimal 04:05 <@roasbeef> most of the stuff in that first article are handled by either gofmt, or go imports, the tool chain really 04:05 <@roasbeef> i mean, like this is just a feature of the lang: http://devs.cloudimmunity.com/gotchas-and-common-mistakes-in-go-golang/index.html#unbuf_ch_send_done 04:06 < ivegotasthma> yeah 04:06 < ivegotasthma> this quote by Stroustrup came to mind: There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses. 04:07 <@roasbeef> hehe 04:07 < booyah> also applies to "versions" of bitcoin 04:08 <@roasbeef> yeh all langs aren't perfect, i like go because it's very small, and has good concurrency support, excellent tooling, and an expansive standaard library 04:08 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 04:08 <@roasbeef> this is just a fact of concurrent programming and pre emptive scheduling: http://devs.cloudimmunity.com/gotchas-and-common-mistakes-in-go-golang/index.html#rw_reorder 04:09 < ivegotasthma> I've heard that it's expansive but in many cases low in quality, the same what people say about python's std, it's where modules go to die. 04:09 < ivegotasthma> I haven't written that much Go, so I wouldn't know 04:10 <@roasbeef> hmm yeh i've writtena bit of python back in the day, but imo the go libs are much better and more expansive 04:10 <@roasbeef> for example, i could write my own ssh server if i wanted using portions of the lib, and only have to worry about composition 04:14 < ivegotasthma> that's good because I already started my lapp in Go hahah 04:16 <@roasbeef> noice 04:16 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 04:16 <@roasbeef> could probably also lift a ton of code from say lncli 04:16 <@roasbeef> and other patterns we use in the lntest pacakge, and within the integration tests 04:17 < ivegotasthma> thanks for the tips 04:17 < ivegotasthma> I'm wondering, because I use the dockerized versions of lnd/btcd, I include the lnd repository as a submodule. 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Is there a way to get notified by the lnd daemon when an invoice is paid? 10:25 < jlamur> Like the `getblocktemplate` polling feature of the bitcoin daemon 10:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:25 < lndbot2> You can use the GRPC API 10:27 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27 < lndbot2> The call is `subscribeInvoices` 10:27 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:28 < jlamur> Thank you very much @alexbosworth. I thought the `lncli --help` contained all the RPC methods. 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and over ... 20:56 < molz> :D 20:56 < rabidus> :D 20:56 < molz> jk.. but have you read much about Lightning Network? 20:58 < molz> it's amazing you can fill in one pixel, and pay 1 satoshi in real time, done in just a few seconds 20:58 < rabidus> what exactly is the fee for that? depends on your channels and fee policies? 21:06 < molz> if your tx has only one hop, no fee, if more than one hop it depends on the fee each node set 21:06 < molz> i had a few txs yesterday that went thru 7 hops but i paid only 3 sat for fees because 3 nodes didn't charge any fee 21:07 < rabidus> ok 21:07 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:08 -!- newuser__ [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has joined #lnd 21:09 < molz> https://i.imgur.com/Yfla7hD.png 21:09 < rabidus> if a website would like to give money to user through LN, how it should be done? Think about somekind of satoshi-lottery. You buy a lotto ticket for 1 sat and might win 2 sat out of it. How does a website pay to player? Do player need to make a invoice? :D 21:10 < rabidus> oh, wagen still there 21:10 < molz> im not sure but i think someone created a similar site 21:11 < rabidus> yeah, i'm sure about that 21:11 < rabidus> i'm just curious about the technical side 21:11 < rabidus> how is that managed 21:11 -!- drrty2 [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:12 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:26 < molz> i have no clue 21:26 < molz> this is the site: https://www.lightningspin.com/ it's on testnet and it's not working properly yet 21:28 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:32 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:54 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 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