--- Day changed Thu Jun 21 2018 00:00 -!- lightningbot8 [~lightning@138.197.213.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- lightningbot9 [~lightning@138.197.213.35] has joined #lnd 00:42 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-175-233-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:42 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-075-000-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has joined #lnd 01:10 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has quit [Quit: Adios mofos] 01:13 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has joined #lnd 01:16 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DDB5639.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 01:16 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DDB5639.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 01:16 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 02:01 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:7c0b:a9bf:1303:91d] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:13 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:a069:1b28:539:c849] has joined #lnd 02:19 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 02:30 <@roasbeef> RusAlex: bitmex hasn't integrated LN, if you're at some sight that claims so, then it's fake 02:30 <@roasbeef> Pieraniel: upgrade your rasp pi node 02:31 <@roasbeef> ivegotasthma: typically you need to set the TLS cipher suite w/ an env variable, as by default, most libs use like sslv3 suites, while we restrict to a set of modern suites 02:33 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:33 <@roasbeef> ChunkyPuffs: you can't double spend a payment on LN 02:34 <@roasbeef> alexbosworth: not anymore, it has an internal wallet 02:35 <@roasbeef> murrayn: means you have the incorrect pass 02:35 <@roasbeef> justin: not bad, would expect to be a bit more quick, are you also tracking that over time? would be something interesting to watch 02:36 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 02:39 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@wl-loc177-82.liwest.at] has joined #lnd 02:46 < murrayn> roasbeef, i just started over. working now. 02:52 < murrayn> is there any reason to prefer opening a channel with one node over another? 02:52 < ChunkyPuffs> roasbeef, I meant double spending the contract. 02:53 < ChunkyPuffs> So creating the contract whilst committing the 51%, then once 6 confs go by, spending the lightning network balance. 02:53 < ChunkyPuffs> Obviously doesn't matter for BTC, I'm just wondering who loses and where the bitcoin goes, does the node lose BTC? ETc. 03:02 <@roasbeef> tht'a just like double spending as normal 03:02 <@roasbeef> it reduces to double spending on the main chain 03:02 <@roasbeef> if you can do that, you can target exchagnes, etc 03:03 <@roasbeef> murrayn: what do you mean? 03:05 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 03:06 < murrayn> roasbeef, i'm just starting up a new node. looking to open up a channel. should i just choose a random one? 03:07 <@roasbeef> depends on what you wanna do 03:07 < murrayn> (i wasn't asking you in particular) 03:08 < murrayn> was just wondering if there was a general answer to that question 03:09 < murrayn> e.g. opening a channel with another node who has a lot of channels vs. a node who has, say, one 03:10 < murrayn> intuitively it seems like the former would be betteR? 03:10 <@roasbeef> depends on what you wanna do lol 03:11 < murrayn> but maybe not for the health of the network? 03:11 <@roasbeef> more chans != better 03:11 < murrayn> right 03:13 < murrayn> e.g. would another node that is nearby in a network sense be preferable? 03:13 < murrayn> just trying to get a sense 03:14 <@roasbeef> depends 03:14 < murrayn> lol i get that 03:14 < murrayn> on what? 03:20 < murrayn> (question not necessarily for roasbeef): is bech32 the only supported funding addr format? seems so. what was the reasoning behind this as opposed to say segwit addresses? 03:20 < murrayn> just wondering 03:21 <@roasbeef> depends on what you wanna do, optimize, etc 03:22 -!- camulos [~user@110.138.9.7] has left #lnd [] 03:22 <@roasbeef> lol asking a very general question is what i mean 03:22 <@roasbeef> outputs don't have an addr format 03:22 <@roasbeef> bech32 is a segwit addr 03:25 < murrayn> re: bech32 i get that, yes, but some software supports segwit but not bech32. that is the position i am in atm 03:26 <@roasbeef> ah you can use np2wkh 03:26 <@roasbeef> lncli newaddress -h 03:26 <@roasbeef> segwit wrapped in p2sh 03:26 < murrayn> ah cool 03:36 < murrayn> roasbeef, re: the node discussion, say i want to "optimize", what characteristics should i look for in a node? what if i want to do what is best for the health of the network? are they different choices? 03:39 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:39 <@roasbeef> optimize in what sense 03:39 < murrayn> roasbeef, i don't know, it was your term 03:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 03:46 <@roasbeef> lol i just mean you're asking very general question 03:46 <@roasbeef> you need to define what "best" is 03:47 <@roasbeef> there're always tradeoffs 04:08 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 04:11 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 04:16 -!- Luz3r [~AR@162-204-57-190.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lnd 04:17 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 04:20 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:20 -!- Luzer [~AR@162-204-57-190.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:26 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] murrayn opened pull request #1428: Add more commonly known descriptors to 'newaddress' help output. (master...address-type-description) https://git.io/fWbra 04:45 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:03 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@wl-loc177-82.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:03 <@roasbeef> murrayn: both those addrs are "segwit" 05:14 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 05:21 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:39 < murrayn> Yes, I get that. it's technically true. 05:42 -!- skace [~skace@skace.cc] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:42 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/flfJN 05:42 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 327420d Johan T. Halseth: contractcourt/channel_arbitrator: Cancel block epoch in case of error in Start() 05:42 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 1c43a0c Johan T. Halseth: contractcourt/chain_arbitrator: delete watcher from activeWatchers 05:42 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master d787e74 Johan T. Halseth: contractcourt/channel_arbitrator: stop block epoch on channel attendant exit 05:43 < murrayn> if you show someone who actually knows the difference two addresses, one beginning with '3' the other with 'bc', they will identify them as segwit and bech32 respectively. it's a usability suggestion. 05:43 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 05:45 -!- skace [~skace@skace.cc] has joined #lnd 05:45 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #1418: [bugfix] Channel stop bugfixes (master...channel-stop) https://git.io/fkVsd 05:49 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #1419: Update channel packager sid (master...update-channel-packager-sid) https://git.io/fIYgK 06:21 <@roasbeef> murrayn: ehh, but bech32 _is_ segwit as well, i'd say it's: bech32 and segwit wrapped in p2sh 06:55 -!- Pieraniel [b21aa0ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.26.160.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:01 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05 -!- j9m_ [~j9m@8c.28.01a8.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #lnd 07:06 -!- j9m [~j9m@47.157.125.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:15 < lndbot> murrayn: addresses that start with 3 are p2sh addresses. One special case of that is p2sh-wrapped segwit, which is indistinguishable from other p2sh addresses until it is spent. But all bech32 addresses (bc...) are segwit. 07:34 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:56 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:56 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 08:10 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:10 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 08:21 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:24 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 08:29 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #lnd 08:40 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 08:45 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 08:55 -!- MrL [~hello@host86-144-8-191.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 08:56 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:56 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #lnd 08:59 -!- django [~django@s91904425.blix.com] has joined #lnd 08:59 < django> Not sure why I got this. rpc error: code = Code(199) desc = chan size of 0.00289162 BTC is below min chan size of 0.005 BTC 09:00 < django> Can't make a channel with 20 bucks? 09:00 < lndbot> Nodes can require a minimum size 09:03 < django> thx turns out that is the case here! 09:04 < lndbot> bitrefill? 09:05 < django> yup was bitrefill 09:06 < lndbot> we already have a lot of channels, unless you're a high volume user don't really need a direct chan ;) 09:07 < django> Its all good. Somebody closed a channel with me and I found that in my wallet. Was just going to drop a few BTC into the network. No reason to have it sitting in my wallet. 09:07 -!- j9m [~j9m@47.157.125.55] has joined #lnd 09:07 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:09 -!- j9m_ [~j9m@8c.28.01a8.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:16 < django> About direct channels. I bought a Billfodl kit a while back over lightning. Think I paid about 115 bucks for it. Had to make a direct channel since the amount was to big. 09:16 < django> Any news on AMP and when we might start to see it? 09:17 < django> Giving the dollar amount since the "price of BTC" has changed a lot since then. 09:18 < molz> going to drop a few btc's into LN, django ? want to open a channel to my node? 09:18 < django> sure 09:18 < molz> you can provide liquidity to people who are paying to satoshis.place 09:19 < django> give me your key and Ill hook up with ya molz 09:19 < molz> ya pm 09:19 < django> there...one sec 09:25 < django> molz, you there? Done 09:30 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #lnd 09:35 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:36 < molz> yea, thanks :) 09:37 < django> I prolly should drop about 60 bucks into that channel. Reason being "the dick wars" taking place. there. A total rewrite of the page costs about that..iirc 09:38 < molz> lol 09:38 < django> Trolling should never be impeded 09:38 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:40 < molz> ahhaha.. i fixed eric lombrozo's pic, change the penis into a cigarette, now someone else made it look even better lol 09:43 < django> It is important stuff that makes it all worth while! Nothing says progress like a public dick slap! 09:48 < django> heh cost 4 cents to open a channel Fees 0.00000663 BTC 09:52 < molz> :D 09:52 < molz> the 'commit_fee' is still too high on all channels but that will come down after a while 10:10 < django> molz, what exactly is the "commit fee" ? 10:10 < django> molz, I see it all the time just not sure what it is for 10:13 < molz> django, if you force close a channel, more likely LND would use the commit fee for the closing tx 10:15 < molz> django, and if you calculate the numbers, 'commit_fee' is subtracted from channel capacity, leaving the available amount that you can spend 10:18 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@213.184.122.35] has joined #lnd 10:19 < django> molz, thx for clearing that up! 10:20 < molz> np :) 10:20 < django> molz, I assume if you close the channel normally that fee is refunded right? 10:21 < molz> yes, if you have a co-operative close, you can choose how much to spend on tx fee 10:22 < django> molz, fair enough then! 10:23 < molz> like this: 'lncli closechannel --sat_per_byte=2' 10:24 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #lnd 10:29 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:a069:1b28:539:c849] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:29 -!- bitconner [~conner@a109-49-178-236.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:30 < django> molz, wait I been doing it like this? Maybe not exactly the right way? 10:30 < django> molz, cp ~/.lnd/data/chain/bitcoin/mainnet/wallet.db . && rm -R ~/.lnd && printf '%s\n' 'FUCK ALL!' 10:35 < django> heh back in feb I actually did that when I had a few drinks. You can still see my "floater" here 03ae13a302863128ca6a13698e2b6873f4902fa4a3216e9954d6d6402a6414eeb2 10:35 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 10:39 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has joined #lnd 10:44 < molz> oh you're Onryo? 10:44 < molz> hm and you have two other nicks? 10:46 < django> molz, yeah you should have a new channel from one of my nodes. 10:47 < molz> lmao 10:49 < django> molz, don't really use that many nicks. Just depends on what computer I am using atm. I don't normally auth unless I am on my personal home system. 10:49 < molz> i never could tell between your nicks 10:50 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:51 < django> qxt and onryo ones most know me by. Years ago I was also known as pwnstar 11:06 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has joined #lnd 11:15 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:20 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- Pieraniel [b21aa0ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.26.160.237] has joined #lnd 11:30 < Pieraniel> Hey guys, i asked yesterday evening concerning a Problem with opening a channel from my android app "Bitcoin Lightning Wallet" with my lnd powered node. Some mentioned to update to the latest version which i did meanwhile but i still get the error message (from the android app) "Data loss protection is not provided by this node" 11:32 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has joined #lnd 11:36 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:38 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has joined #lnd 11:39 < Pieraniel> Hey guys, i asked yesterday evening concerning a Problem with opening a channel from my android app "Bitcoin Lightning Wallet" with my lnd powered node. Some mentioned to update to the latest version which i did meanwhile but i still get the error message (from the android app) "Data loss protection is not provided by this node". the node is named 'Pieraniel', could somebody try to connect to it? 11:39 < Pieraniel> @roasbeef Any suggestions 11:41 < Pieraniel> Somebody mentioned that data loss protction is only provided by eclair nodes? 11:44 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 11:47 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@69.5.45.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypgkzdfskfnwgarw] has joined #lnd 11:59 < molz> Pieraniel, it's an issue that BLW will have to fix 11:59 < molz> i have no problem with Eclair opening channels to my LND nodes and it's odd that you can't open channels to lnd nodes because when i was testing BLW wallet i could 12:00 < molz> BLW wallet just can't receive payments if it only has channels with LND nodes, only with other Eclair nodes 12:01 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:01 < Pieraniel> molz, could you try to open a channel with my node 'pieraniel'? 12:01 < Pieraniel> BTW, thank you for your help, i really apreciate 12:02 < molz> im not using Eclair mobil on mainnet though 12:02 < molz> I have eclair on testnet, if you have a LND node on testnet I can try 12:04 < Pieraniel> unfortunately not at the moment. maybe in a few days i will set up another raspberry pi 12:15 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 12:18 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 12:20 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 12:38 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 13:13 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 13:21 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 13:48 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:53 -!- Pieraniel [b21aa0ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.26.160.237] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:02 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #lnd 14:04 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypgkzdfskfnwgarw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:56 < ChunkyPuffs> roasbeef, I had an idea for a decentralized chan 14:56 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 14:56 < ChunkyPuffs> Is it possible to write contracts that let you send messages for just a few satoshis? 14:57 < ChunkyPuffs> or rather, how about a decentralized twitter, where one word = 1 satoshi, or something like that. 15:06 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 15:31 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #lnd 15:36 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:47 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 15:53 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:00 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxepeydrqewgohhs] has joined #lnd 16:02 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 16:20 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 16:36 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:37 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 16:39 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-54-219-151-162.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lnd 16:44 < django> am I using epoch time right here? $ lncli fwdinghistory --help --start_time=961630789 --end_time=1529624389 16:45 < django> see what I did. Still had the --help in there. 16:48 < lndbot> ChunkyPuffs: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2018-June/001300.html 16:54 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 16:56 < ChunkyPuffs> nice tyzbit 16:56 < ChunkyPuffs> speaking of linux.. has Linus Torvalds ever commented on Bitcoin? 16:59 < ChunkyPuffs> roasbeef, may be a bit unrelated to lnd, but I wanna ask a question about coding. 17:01 < ChunkyPuffs> I'm pretty dissapointed at how little I know, so I'm going to sit down and learn python + js and start my journey, will that be enough to get by and start making some cool lightning apps? 17:01 < molz> roasbeef and the lightning labs team are busy with meetings for Hackday in germany 17:01 < molz> they're not here 17:01 < ChunkyPuffs> Anyone can answer, I just know roasbeef would be knowledgeable instantly 18:10 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxepeydrqewgohhs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:19 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.156.175.51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32 < django> ChunkyPuffs, I am a bit old school. Learned to code on a Amiga making demos in asm as a small kid. At around 10 I got into Debian and ofc C was default. Today things have changed a lot 18:33 < django> Python is a excellent first lang imo. 18:33 < ChunkyPuffs> Well if I want to make something like satoshis.place, would python and JS be enough? 18:33 < ChunkyPuffs> I don't want to waste 6 months and then not actually be able to whip up lightning apps, something lucrative. 18:34 < ChunkyPuffs> I'm learning so that I can make money first, everything else is secondary, not that I'm greedy or anything. 18:34 < django> Like you said python and js then. Heck you can even learn something like Golang. 18:35 < lndbot> ChunkyPuffs, in your case the language doesn’t even matter, it’s all about the execution of your idea 18:35 < django> +1 18:35 < lndbot> python or JS should allow you to execute your idea just fine 18:36 < django> python is just one of those things you should know imo 18:36 < ChunkyPuffs> like bash? 18:36 < django> or dash =P 18:36 < ChunkyPuffs> or bcash 18:37 < django> but ignore me. I am a OBSD coder =P and like stuff like ksh etc 18:37 < django> awk/gawk sed and dash if you are into shell. 18:38 < django> others here was not agree with me 18:38 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 18:39 < django> ChunkyPuffs, if you have never coded before python might be a good first. 18:40 < ChunkyPuffs> What's the deal with BSD anyway 18:40 < ChunkyPuffs> FreeBSD and the fallout, etc 18:40 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kacoxiiivikwfoot] has joined #lnd 18:40 < django> I just like it as a admin. 18:40 < ChunkyPuffs> Does OpenBSD see a lot of people coming from FreeBSD now? 18:41 < django> Not really but I like pf. OTOH I really like ZFS in FBSD 18:42 < django> here is a thingie I wrote if you want to make your own ISO https://github.com/adlererik/OpenBSD-Image/blob/develop/MakeISO.sh 18:43 < django> for OBSD that is 18:43 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:44 < ChunkyPuffs> AWesome, bookmarked 18:44 < django> the rest of the stuff in that repo is just some Debian junk I did for Debian. I use my works git repos now. 18:46 < django> Kinda easy. Just run it and poof you have the a OBSD ISO with all the patches. 18:54 -!- stephen [~stephen@unaffiliated/stephen] has quit [Quit: Out...] 18:59 < molz> django, new LN games to spend satoshis: https://moneni.com/hangman3 , https://lightninggem.com/ 19:01 < molz> "Beware, we have noticed there are also bots playing!" lol 19:02 < django> molz, oh cool! Ill have a look at them! OFC there are bots playing =P 19:03 < molz> django, make a bot and compete with other bots there lol 19:03 < django> I double dare them to put up a poker game. Will be 100% bot free ofc 19:03 < django> May the best bot win! 19:03 < molz> lol yes 19:04 < django> Neural Networks and Deep Learning would be kinda cool to get into 19:05 < django> I want a bot that can change water into wine! 19:06 < molz> there's also a LN pokemon game at poketoshi.com https://twitter.com/joaodealmeida94/status/1008920800777338880 19:07 < django> Is there a central directory for all these services? 19:07 < django> If not there prolly should be 19:07 < molz> there's a website that lists LN stores but i haven't looked at it lately 19:08 < django> well its getting really late. Should prolly get some sleep 19:09 < molz> ah here's the site: http://lightningnetworkstores.com/ 19:09 < molz> django, ok, good night :) 19:10 < django> molz, thought you were in Europe too. Guess not. Just 22 there =) 19:10 < molz> lol 19:10 < django> yup have a good one! 2mRO I am going to dance around a giant dick that is stuck the ground for midsummer. 19:11 < django> A Swedish tradition 19:11 < django> Maypole 19:11 < django> nn 19:11 -!- django [~django@s91904425.blix.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:12 < molz> nn LOL 19:16 -!- camulos [~user@180.244.11.187] has joined #lnd 19:40 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 19:57 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 20:02 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@213.184.122.35] has quit [Quit: qubenix] 20:50 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kacoxiiivikwfoot] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:16 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:33 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:33 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:38 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 21:38 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:54 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:15 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:22 -!- drrty2 [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 22:23 -!- drrty2 [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has joined #lnd 22:29 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@85-23-137-40.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:31 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@85-23-137-40.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lnd 22:36 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:41 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:57 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:01 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:02 -!- s7r [~s7r@openvpn/user/s7r] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:03 -!- s7r [~s7r@openvpn/user/s7r] has joined #lnd 23:08 -!- s7r [~s7r@openvpn/user/s7r] has quit [Client Quit] 23:11 -!- s7r [~s7r@openvpn/user/s7r] has joined #lnd 23:18 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:28 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:29 -!- dabura667 [sid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xhvkokmsfqhqilnl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29 -!- dabura667 [sid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vfajwefwuwnnqqtk] has joined #lnd 23:53 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]