--- Day changed Sun Jun 24 2018 00:12 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 00:17 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 00:22 -!- eamonnw_ [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 00:33 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 00:38 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:50 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:54 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 00:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:15 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 01:16 -!- eamonnw_ is now known as eamonnw 01:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:21 < ChunkyPuffs> roasbeef, molz, is there anything that would make BTC or Lightning work with radio? 01:22 < ChunkyPuffs> For receiving and broadcasting data 01:22 < ChunkyPuffs> Satellites are cool and all, but if you're in Yemen, you can't make a hardware wallet, you can't use a computer, but you can craft a radio 01:23 < ChunkyPuffs> small phones are good too, but radio is missing from the architecture of this whole thing, do you think it could be done? 01:28 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@S01061cabc0b054b3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #lnd 01:29 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@S01061cabc0b054b3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:29 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has joined #lnd 01:29 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 01:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02 < buZz> ChunkyPuffs: you can already use radio for BTC since day1 02:02 < buZz> just send a presigned transaction 02:03 < buZz> good luck finding any trustless method of using BTC without a computer though :P lol 02:03 < buZz> 'small phones' are already a whole bunch of radios 02:03 < buZz> + a computer 02:22 < ChunkyPuffs> buZz, Sure, but I mean something for generating that signed transacstion 02:22 < buZz> pen and paper? :P 02:22 < buZz> and a lot of patience, and a abacus 02:23 < buZz> and some math dexterity 02:23 < ChunkyPuffs> See, I'm wanting a way to create a very crude device that can connect to radio and grab the formula for genning a signed transaction from it 02:23 < buZz> sounds like a computer to me 02:24 < buZz> you want to make a computer 02:24 < ChunkyPuffs> Sure, and "Once they release the source code I might think about refactoring it for PIC18 or AVR, and remake the PCB for TH components so that even lowest of low techs would be able to make it." 02:24 < ChunkyPuffs> According to a friend 02:24 < ChunkyPuffs> referring to the hardware wallet 02:25 < buZz> sure, you can do ECDSA on a AVR , thats not rocketscience 02:25 < buZz> AVR is shitexpensive though 02:25 < ChunkyPuffs> right, so I'm manufacturing a problem lol 02:25 < buZz> ~2 usd per chip , even in bulk 02:25 < buZz> for basically a 80s 8bit cpu with matching performance 02:25 < buZz> PIC18 isnt much better 02:26 < buZz> ChunkyPuffs: you realize that almost -all- hw wallets do this? 02:26 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 02:27 < ChunkyPuffs> I do not, because I have a very limited knowledge of how hardware deals with crypto 02:29 < buZz> ok, but also about crypto in general 02:29 < buZz> so maybe, learn what exists and whats done , 'radio transmitted transactions' isnt something new 02:48 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 03:32 < midnightmagic> I like AVR. 03:32 < midnightmagic> Too bad they killed off AVR32. 03:40 < buZz> did you see microchip bought atmel? 03:40 < buZz> and then made a PIC with AVR instruction set? :P 03:47 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 03:51 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:11 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 04:29 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-075-000-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:30 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-170-118-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 04:48 < booyah> beeep beeep beeep 04:48 < booyah> CQD CQD CQD 04:49 < booyah> WE ARE SINKING AT 5900 5800 SEND HELP CQD CQD SOS 04:49 < booyah> MGY TITANIC beep beeep beeeeeeeep 04:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 04:58 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:09 -!- camulos 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