--- Day changed Sun Jul 01 2018 00:27 -!- LN-Hero [568aa518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.138.165.24] has joined #lnd 00:30 < LN-Hero> When my autopilot opened a channel, it sent a remote balance to the other node (100% of the channel). Why would it have done this? Seems like I've just given the other party my funds but I'm not sure if I've just not understood how remote vs local balance works. 00:34 < molz> hm i've never seen autopilot do such a thing 00:35 < molz> LN-Hero, probably the other party opened a channel to your node? 00:35 < molz> LN-Hero, local_balance is your balance, remote_balance is the other party's balance 00:36 < LN-Hero> Hmm, that's interesting. I hadn't thought to check whether they had opened it with me! Let me check. 00:37 < molz> look at your 'walletbalance' and 'listchaintxns' 00:39 < LN-Hero> Yeah, listchaintxns doesn't show anything so it looks like it was opened with me, just random timing that it was an hour after I had set autopilot. 00:40 < LN-Hero> That means that autopilot hasn't actually set up any channels yet. I'll check the logs and see if I can find out why. 00:40 < molz> yea, i don't use autopilot so i know if i had opened a channel if such a thing happened 00:40 < LN-Hero> Thanks for your help molz 00:40 < molz> oh.. np 00:42 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 00:42 < molz> if autopilot could ever get other people to open channels AND send me a push_amt then i would consider to use it on mainnet 00:43 < molz> otherwize, no, i have enough autopilot from Microsoft to auto update my windows out of the blue 00:44 < LN-Hero> haha, fair enough :) 00:46 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:08 -!- Rooozalll_ [uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmowdmbmaxzsiivx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:23 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 01:53 -!- LN-Hero [568aa518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.138.165.24] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:15 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wangxinxi opened pull request #1489: update the version of ltcd (master...master) https://git.io/fwls1 03:45 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 04:07 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 04:18 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 04:22 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:36 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 05:03 -!- jlamur [~jlamur@LPuteaux-657-1-212-208.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lnd 05:11 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 05:12 < jlamur> Hello guys, I'm seeking help to understand why I can't open a channel on the LTC mainnet. The destination node always tell me that my channel reserve is too small. E.g. with a local-amt of 20000 sats: `channel reserve of 573 sat is too small, min is 54600 sat`. How am I supposed to set have higher reserve? My node walletbalance is 1000k sats, is it even possible to open a channel with that amount? 05:14 < ivegotasthma> Is it possible to have LND be used by multiple clients? Would just having a new address for each new client work? 05:14 -!- SopaXT [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 05:15 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:15 -!- SopaXT is now known as SopaXorzTaker 05:56 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:57 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 06:07 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:10 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 06:14 < jlamur> My walletbalance is often reset to 0 (even if I have no pendingchannels, no open channel and my tx is still in listchaintxns). And suddenly after some random time it's reset to its real value (1000k sat). What's happening here? There's nothing about it in the logs. 06:16 < jlamur> If I restart lnd, my walletbalance is reset to its real value by the way. 06:18 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 06:21 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:21 -!- drexl_ is now known as drexl 07:02 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 07:24 -!- RMC [568aa518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.138.165.24] has joined #lnd 07:25 -!- RMC [568aa518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.138.165.24] has quit [Client Quit] 07:29 -!- douglas__ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:39 -!- jout [568aa518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.138.165.24] has joined #lnd 07:40 < jout> Hi. Is it possible to send a message along with a lightning payment? Not using an invoice. 07:41 < molz> jlamur, LND allows user to set their `minchansize`, meaning in your case you have to open a channel with at least the amount the other node requires 07:41 < molz> jout, no 07:42 < jout> Is it LND specific or all lightning? I saw a 'description' field in the BOLT11 spec. 07:42 <@roasbeef> molz: lol, autopilot-ng incoming, massive improvement 07:43 <@roasbeef> jlamur: update your lnd version? also make sure the remote party is updated? some ltc related bugs have been fixed 07:45 -!- AliceAndBob [550b2582@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.11.37.130] has joined #lnd 07:47 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:48 < molz> roasbeef, so autopilot can get people to open their channels and send push_amt to my node? :D 07:50 < AliceAndBob> I have a few channels opened now, but they only contain local amt, how would I get em balanced without giving money away with push_amt? 07:55 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 07:57 < molz> buy something 07:59 < AliceAndBob> I hope there is a better solution than having to buy something off every node owner :D 07:59 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07 < jout> When I'm paying an invoice does the beneficiary node need to be online at the same time? 08:18 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@89.238.178.75] has joined #lnd 08:21 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 08:24 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:26 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 08:26 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-94-254-146-47.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 08:29 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:30 -!- drexl_ is now known as drexl 08:31 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-94-254-146-47.play-internet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-94-254-146-47.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 08:37 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 08:37 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-94-254-146-47.play-internet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:37 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 08:41 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:41 -!- drexl_ is now known as drexl 08:47 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 08:48 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:50 < molz> AliceAndBob, what? 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16:02 < molz> unless if he sets up another node and sends it to his other node, but that's a different case then 16:02 < molz> roasbeef, what? 16:03 < molz> roasbeef, this: molz: that isn't a req, just better channel selection is, and the rest doesn't really matter from there, as there're ways to rebalnce your incoming/outgoing yourself 16:03 < molz> were you talking about what AliceAndBob asked above? 16:12 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:46 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:47 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 16:50 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 16:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 16:54 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:58 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:14 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:35 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:40 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:56 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 17:58 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:01 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 18:03 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:07 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #lnd 18:13 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 18:17 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 18:18 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:21 -!- camulos [~user@110.139.17.85] has joined #lnd 18:22 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:23 -!- camulos [~user@110.139.17.85] has left #lnd [] 18:23 < raucao> hi. i'm trying to close channels, which are neither pending nor active (created via the autopilot a month ago or so). however, it tells me "unable to find arbitrator" 18:24 < raucao> and fails 18:24 < raucao> any idea what i could be doing wrong, or how to close these channels? 18:24 < raucao> i tried with --force 18:38 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 18:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:47 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 18:49 -!- douglas__ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:55 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:57 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 18:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:04 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:04 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:07 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 19:14 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:18 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 19:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:23 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-179-222-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:24 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:41 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50 <@roasbeef> either pending nor active? 19:50 <@roasbeef> what commit are you running raucao 19:50 <@roasbeef> ? 19:54 < raucao> hey. yeah, the info says they're not active, but also not pending 19:54 < raucao> i have a channelbalance, but all channels are inactive it seems 19:54 < raucao> lemme check the commit 19:55 < raucao> 2fa2644 20:02 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:06 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:22 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:28 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:42 <@roasbeef> raucao: on start up, do you see any info in the logs related to those channels? 20:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:47 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:54 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@89.238.178.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:09 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:24 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:30 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:50 -!- jout [568aa518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.138.165.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:51 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:54 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 22:06 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:12 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:27 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:32 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:48 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 22:49 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@109.160.62.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:56 < raucao> looks like these could be related: 22:56 < raucao> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/skddc/1bb811af58c87f9f73d27c90bb74acee/raw/4a54c85125861ef55135bc181452ad5773f7d468/gistfile1.txt 22:57 < raucao> nothing else i can see 22:58 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:09 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:14 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:16 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 23:23 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:30 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:35 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:51 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 23:55 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]