--- Day changed Wed Sep 19 2018 00:13 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lnd 00:14 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15 -!- melvin_ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 00:22 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:23 < Veggen> wkatsu: there's always a Linux box around. 00:24 < Veggen> In fact, I am almost willing to bet that the average person have more things with Linux than windows. 00:29 -!- l0rdkermit14 [~l0rdkermi@183.157.172.59] has joined #lnd 00:30 -!- l0rdkermit14 [~l0rdkermi@183.157.172.59] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51 -!- vexe4 [~vexe@pppoe-188-244-238-2-dyn-vgd.volgaline.ru] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 00:56 -!- vexe4 [~vexe@pppoe-188-244-238-2-dyn-vgd.volgaline.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lnd 01:07 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 02:01 -!- fridim18 [~fridim@177.26.147.173] has joined #lnd 02:04 -!- fridim18 [~fridim@177.26.147.173] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 02:20 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has joined #lnd 02:42 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51 -!- kim0 [uid105149@ubuntu/member/kim0] has joined #lnd 02:56 -!- b1itz [~b1itz@221.146.110.213] has joined #lnd 02:59 -!- b1itz [~b1itz@221.146.110.213] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02 -!- hikedev [adf9228c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.249.34.140] has joined #lnd 03:06 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 03:15 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:19 -!- hikedev [adf9228c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.249.34.140] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:25 < queip> wait, is roasbeef really ircing as root? ;p 03:42 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 03:49 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:58 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 04:10 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-kfeiktpdkltvvvhc] has joined #lnd 04:10 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #1937: Data loss protect resending (master...data-loss-protect-resending) https://git.io/fA9nU 04:10 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-kfeiktpdkltvvvhc] has left #lnd [] 04:31 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 04:36 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:44 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-lemwrdojulvrppnv] has joined #lnd 04:44 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth closed pull request #1601: recreate rpc.pb.go (master...recreate-rpc-files) https://git.io/fNlTJ 04:44 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-lemwrdojulvrppnv] has left #lnd [] 04:45 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:46 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has joined #lnd 04:52 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 05:04 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 05:05 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 05:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 05:16 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 05:30 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:34 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 05:51 -!- kim0 [uid105149@ubuntu/member/kim0] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:51 -!- wkatsu [~katsu@2409:13:1200:d200:c179:87d8:ac4e:a1f7] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:55 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-156-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:56 -!- ziya [~ziya@77.243.191.202] has joined #lnd 05:57 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:06 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has joined #lnd 06:10 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:11 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 06:14 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 06:27 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:33 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:34 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 07:03 -!- freannrak [~ar@188.166.55.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13 -!- ziya [~ziya@77.243.191.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 07:17 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 07:18 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:26 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@195.133.220.177] has joined #lnd 07:28 -!- irate_min [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 07:28 -!- ziya [~ziya@77.243.191.202] has joined #lnd 07:31 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@195.133.220.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:35 -!- irate_min [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:39 -!- ziya [~ziya@77.243.191.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:45 -!- Niamkik23 [~Niamkik@110.78.171.251] has joined #lnd 07:48 -!- Niamkik23 [~Niamkik@110.78.171.251] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:01 -!- dougsland [~douglas@2001:558:6017:76:4c20:21f7:1687:2ba9] has joined #lnd 08:15 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 08:23 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 08:25 -!- dougsland [~douglas@2001:558:6017:76:4c20:21f7:1687:2ba9] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:29 -!- dougsland [~douglas@2001:558:6017:76:4c20:21f7:1687:2ba9] has joined #lnd 08:39 < Talkless> Hi. I need to upgreade bitcoind, but lnd is now rescanning blocks. If I stop lnd now, will it continues rescanning? Or it will start from the scrach..? 08:41 -!- drrty [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has joined #lnd 08:41 < queip> Talkless: btw, that bitcoin exploit is actually harmless, at most it will stop your node 08:42 < queip> IF some miner chooses to burn 70,000$ 08:42 < Talkless> heh 08:43 < Talkless> well I guess it would *restart* it, because "Restart=on-failure". 08:43 < Talkless> Ir it would keep crashing? 08:43 < mol> Talkless, it shouldn't take long for lnd to finish rescanning 08:43 < Talkless> mol: it's day 3 for my OdroidHC1 machine :( 08:43 < mol> Talkless, then it's almost done? 08:43 < Talkless> 4 hours for 10k blocks 08:43 < Talkless> it's height 510000 08:44 < Talkless> ~12 hours more 08:45 < Talkless> Would be possible to implement rescanning in multi-threaded fashion, or it's hardly parallelizable? LND caps at single core, while there are 8 of them :/ 08:46 < Talkless> First blocks being small (i presume) goes fast, hitting HDD 100% utilziation, but now it looks like CPU-bound. 08:55 < Veggen> well, bitcoind upgraded. 08:55 < Veggen> not that I worried all *that* much. 08:55 < Veggen> :) 08:55 < Veggen> (but I was still at 0.16.0, so it was due anyhow) 08:56 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 09:01 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 09:01 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:02 < mol> i got my mainnet and testnet btc nodes updated yesterday morning, a few hours after two versions were tagged :D 09:02 < mol> but 0.17 will have RC5 09:03 < mol> im still compiling a windows version for 0.16.3, it's really going slow and has a few errors for some reason, had to make clean and start over 09:04 < mol> hm still same error 09:27 -!- dougsland [~douglas@2001:558:6017:76:4c20:21f7:1687:2ba9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:30 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 09:30 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-24-34-137-83.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:30 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [] 09:55 -!- aloy18 [~aloy@host-static-86-105-60-156.moldtelecom.md] has joined #lnd 10:00 -!- aloy18 [~aloy@host-static-86-105-60-156.moldtelecom.md] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10 -!- McBadders0n26 [~McBadders@201.49.228.23] has joined #lnd 10:14 -!- McBadders0n26 [~McBadders@201.49.228.23] has quit [Killed (Unit193 (Spam is not permitted on freenode.))] 10:25 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:30 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 10:32 -!- Sentineo [~Undefined@unaffiliated/sentineo] has quit [Quit: a -> a] 10:41 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-24-34-137-83.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:41 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-24-34-137-83.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:46 -!- ectospasm21 [~ectospasm@37.200.248.241] has joined #lnd 10:49 -!- ectospasm21 [~ectospasm@37.200.248.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55 -!- TheRec24 [~TheRec@209.88.196.166] has joined #lnd 10:55 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:04 < Veggen> mol, how large is a current .btcd directory? 11:04 -!- TheRec24 [~TheRec@209.88.196.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:07 < mol> 225G 11:07 < mol> im running it with txindex 11:08 < mol> i stopped btcd for a few days because i was running some stuff on this server but yesterday i fired it back up 11:10 < Veggen> ok, mine is 60 now. trying to sync up one. 11:10 < Veggen> probably gonna use it for a seed rescan on my closing down node, once the last force-closed channels have matured. 11:11 < Veggen> (I have a new laptop, thus I have a disk that is in the first of its tree natural stages: New. 11:11 < Veggen> Next stage is full, final stage is "defunct" :) 11:13 < mol> lolol.. just saw this in bitcoin channel.. 11:13 < mol> Jmabsd: btcd isn't really used by anybody 11:13 < mol> neither is libbitcoin. 11:13 < mol> btcd is used by a growing number 11:13 < queip> mol: doesn't btcd suck balls 11:13 < mol> if you let it suck your balls, sure 11:14 < mol> i hope some devs will look at btcd and optimize it 11:14 < queip> as in - Jmabsd: btcd is a one for one clone of bitocoin 0.10 into golang, it's not really that interesting. their software managed to introduce even more bugs than were in such an old version, and the rigid copying of all the structure means they really didn't do any good in the process. 11:14 < queip> mol: bitcoin core is the only responsibly developed software I can really think of. Maybe openbsd too? 11:15 < queip> objection to btcd seems to be security and such, not [just] performance 11:16 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@x4e3470cc.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 11:26 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:41 < mol> queip not sure who this guy echeveria is but he doesn't seem to be in the know with the current state of btcd, it's not at v0.10 of bitcoin 11:46 < queip> mol: he seems very knowlegable, well, challange that opinion on #bitcoin then :) 11:54 -!- Bun_G [~Bun_G@119.42.119.143] has joined #lnd 11:54 -!- zectrosan15 [~zectrosan@mx-ll-180.183.55-57.dynamic.3bb.co.th] has joined #lnd 11:54 -!- Bun_G [~Bun_G@119.42.119.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55 -!- zectrosan15 [~zectrosan@mx-ll-180.183.55-57.dynamic.3bb.co.th] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02 < mol> queip, eh? you want to be a little tattletale? he's going to ban you lol 12:03 < mol> queip, omg.. "are you sure it's still bad" why would you want his approval? lol i've been running btcd, we started out testing lnd running on btcd for a whole year.. sure it's slower to sync but it works for lnd, duh 12:05 < queip> mol: it's called exchanging of opinions. it's not like if he's going to spank you. Well, I hope >_> 12:08 < queip> mol: I want to compare opinions and determine the actuall situation 12:12 -!- ben_14 [~ben_@x4d044528.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 12:16 -!- ben_14 [~ben_@x4d044528.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has joined #lnd 12:20 -!- valwal [~quassel@50-1-123-199.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 12:21 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has joined #lnd 12:21 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has joined #lnd 12:23 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has joined #lnd 12:24 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has joined #lnd 12:26 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has joined #lnd 12:27 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31 < queip> so LND when used with Bitcoin Core, requires it to be Indexed right? and Un-Prunned too? 12:34 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 12:35 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-24-34-137-83.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:35 < lndbot> queip, it can work w/o txindex, but it will be slower 12:36 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.125] has joined #lnd 12:36 -!- dave_uy [~dave_uy@108.61.193.26] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io] 12:37 -!- dave_uy [~dave_uy@108.61.193.26] has joined #lnd 12:37 < queip> conner, slower, as in? initial synchronization of lnd? by how much? and cathcing up after downtime? 12:38 -!- [l3x]_ [~l3x]@199.66.88.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:40 < queip> for users who wish to use bitcoin core (trust/stability), but do not want to spend HDD space, a valid option then is to connect to a prunned, not-indexed node, so using just ~6 GB hdd now? 12:42 < queip> conner, if you don't mind me relaying, gmaxwell on #bitcoin think that it should not be the case actually, because someone has to do the indexing, either LND itself or bitcoind 12:42 < queip> so I guess LND indexing is "better" because it uses much less space, it indexes only things I care about right? as opposed to bitcoind using a lot 12:44 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45 < mol> "LND indexing"? what do you mean? 12:45 < queip> I mean, LND doing the things needed when bitcoind doesn't provide an index 12:48 < mol> sipa: fyi, #lnd claims indexes make LND [synchronize?] faster 12:48 < mol> queip: that's possible :) 12:48 < mol> so even sipa said "that's possible" 12:49 < lndbot> the txindex is used to retrieve details for events that have happened in the past (confs, spends) 12:49 < lndbot> with the index, we can make a single query for a txid 12:49 < lndbot> otherwise we have to scan the chain and look for it 12:51 < queip> The claim roasbeef has been making is that txindex (and BIP158 over rpc) speeds up lnd by letting lnd skip fetching blocks to look for relevant txn. But AFAICT this is only true if you disregard the time bitcoin takes to build the index/bip158 filters... which it only makes sense to do if you're already using them for something else. 12:52 < lndbot> yes, eventually we’ll move towards using filters everywhere 12:52 < queip> wilmer.paulino , #bitcoin recommends that switching to REST API, in binary, could help. is that a good idea / on roadmap? 12:53 < lndbot> we might move towards that for `getheaders` as it allows us to fetch them in batches, rather than one by one as we currently do through the rpc 13:02 < queip> any opinions about using Neutrino, VS using Bitcoin Core? or, why would I want to use Neutrino at all 13:02 < queip> since bitcoind can be prunned after all... in situations when that ~6 gb matters? 13:03 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdgiumdqbecvpcxp] has joined #lnd 13:05 < lndbot> queip: I'm using LND with a 5GB pruned bitcoind backend, works well since months now... just don't prune beyond the birthday of your LND channels 13:06 < queip> joeblow hmm you mean that at prune=(10 days) I need to close and reopen channels each 10 days? 13:06 < queip> or did you just ment that when somehow importing already opened channel 13:06 < queip> I would guess the prune size must be smaller then maximum allowed time of LND being offline 13:08 < lndbot> I mean if you create a LND wallet and channels today, don't prune blocks after the creation of your channels 13:08 < lndbot> But that's only to play safe 13:09 < queip> yeah because I plan on keeping channel open for a year, with luck 13:09 < queip> for such channels, still prune=700 should be fine, except for bugs in LND? 13:10 < lndbot> yep, if you can make sure your LND and bitcoind aren't offline for more than a day, that's fine imho 13:11 < queip> ok so prune=(max allowed downtime). neat 13:11 < queip> wiht that in mind, what would be beneits of using Neutrino, instead using bitcoind as the blockchain provider for LND 13:12 < lndbot> yeah, it doesn't change much at all, because you have to be online once a day to not get cheated by your peers closing channles with invalid states 13:14 < lndbot> For me, Neutrino is more about light client (phones and other clients who won't route payments and might prefer private channels) 13:20 < queip> joeblow in which way Neutrino is better or that job? 13:20 < queip> bitcoin core does work on Android 13:20 < queip> it has some issues on iOS (doesn't work right now but could). dunno how Neutrino stands on that 13:21 < queip> *on that job 13:22 < lndbot> With neutrino you don't need your own backend at all 13:29 < queip> but practically. It means less RAM use and even less HDD (much less than even UTXO db) right? 13:34 -!- JackH [~laptop@host86-182-8-23.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 13:37 -!- thalios0 [~thalios@2a07:3740:0:2:20e:b4ff:fe1f:3470] has joined #lnd 13:41 -!- thalios0 [~thalios@2a07:3740:0:2:20e:b4ff:fe1f:3470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53 < lndbot> I think so. 14:07 < mol> queip, neutrino only works on testnet right now, same with lnd app 14:16 < rk3y> Good evening, I have a problem. Was upgraing LND to latest beta. Now I have to enter my wallet password. I forgot it. And the option "noencryption" does not work anymore. Any thoughts how I can get my node back to work? 14:17 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 14:17 < mol> does your node have a password? if it does you have to use that password to unlock it 14:17 < lndbot> if you were previously using noencryptwallet, the flag has been changed to noseedbackup 14:19 < rk3y> holy moly - the bot did it 14:19 < rk3y> can I set a passwort later on, if not password was set? 14:22 < lndbot> yes, using the changepassword command 14:22 < lndbot> run `lncli changepassword -h` to show the help message 14:23 < rk3y> awesome lndbot! are you human? 14:24 < lndbot> rk3y, are you? 14:27 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-mpwelxynmbbfognh] has joined #lnd 14:27 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] johng opened pull request #1941: Absolute Time Lock Limit (master...jg-absolute-time-lock-limit) https://git.io/fAHBr 14:27 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-mpwelxynmbbfognh] has left #lnd [] 14:30 < lndbot> queip, slower when trying to validate spends/confs. channel graph outputs can be many months old. the logic to index on the lnd-side is mostly complete, but not fully in yet hence the performance degredation. will be most noticable on initial graph validation, restarts, or if a peer gives you a really old channel 14:30 < lndbot> queip, yes we will be able to index specific outpoints instead of everything, so in the end it will be more efficient 14:38 -!- James_T23 [~James_T@188.19.22.179] has joined #lnd 14:39 -!- James_T23 [~James_T@188.19.22.179] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53 -!- qxxt [~qxt@193.148.18.251] has joined #lnd 14:55 -!- JackH [~laptop@host86-182-8-23.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56 -!- qxxxt [~qxt@185.213.154.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:04 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-ztgokuuhlqoqrqil] has joined #lnd 15:04 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] joostjager opened pull request #1943: utxonursery: add test coverage (master...nursery-test) https://git.io/fAHEy 15:04 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-ztgokuuhlqoqrqil] has left #lnd [] 15:48 -!- unknownids_8 [~unknownid@156.194.183.205] has joined #lnd 15:50 -!- unknownids_8 [~unknownid@156.194.183.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:03 < mol> rk3y, that bot is not human 16:07 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:10 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has joined #lnd 16:11 < lndbot> kek 16:17 -!- lmiphay_ [~lmiphay_@190.79.158.77] has joined #lnd 16:18 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19 -!- lmiphay_ [~lmiphay_@190.79.158.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has joined #lnd 16:24 -!- qxxt [~qxt@193.148.18.251] has quit 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the node being offline for a while, and then coming online to catchup the router and see that a buncha chanenls have been closed 19:31 <@roasbeef> queip: not a clone of 0.10 at all, 0.10 is ancient, btcd's architecture is _very_ diff from bitcoind 19:31 <@roasbeef> queip: well ofc, it's faster if your node is already synced (txdinex or filters) 19:38 < mol> roasbeef, hm.. what node? sorry i don't recall 19:39 <@roasbeef> oh you said it took 20 mins to migrate, then linked some logs 19:39 <@roasbeef> but those logs were actually the regular catch up code 19:40 < mol> ah 19:40 < mol> that was from my laptop testnet windows lnd node 19:40 < mol> but my mainnet node did do the migration and it went fast 19:45 < mol> hm we've had 6 migrations so far? 19:50 < bitconner> queip, fwiw even when externally indexing a subset of the utxo set, there are still cases where txindex unilaterally will outperform notxindex esp in graph validation. there's going to be a tradeoff between storage and how often one rescans regardless 19:55 < mol> queip got all mixed up re: reindex and txindex, and then he thought there's a thing called "lnd index", sipa had to correct him 19:56 < mol> just amazing when i turn around someone else gets some crazy idea about lnd and LN in general 19:59 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@pool-108-14-231-114.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 20:01 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:10 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 20:16 -!- wkatsu [~katsu@2409:13:1200:d200:fc17:f21f:2ea:e4c2] has joined #lnd 20:17 -!- wkatsu [~katsu@2409:13:1200:d200:fc17:f21f:2ea:e4c2] has quit [Client Quit] 20:18 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:32 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-hydmyqxvcrebhctv] has joined #lnd 20:32 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #1911: server: start tor controller if we should listen for inbound connections (master...tor-controller-if-inbound) https://git.io/fAXB8 20:32 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-hydmyqxvcrebhctv] has left #lnd [] 20:36 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@x4e37d943.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 20:39 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@x4e3470cc.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:41 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@pool-108-14-231-114.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45 < qubenix> roasbeef: in re: issue 1942; i didn't even think to just disable all tor settings. seems to have solved my problems. my onion is showing in my uri on `getinfo` and i don't have to play that game with socat passing the port to 0.0.0.0. ty! 20:45 <@roasbeef> 1942? 20:46 <@roasbeef> 39? 20:46 < qubenix> about tor listening on all interfaces, you just closed it 20:46 <@roasbeef> ah 20:46 <@roasbeef> fsho 20:47 -!- Styil 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