--- Day changed Tue Sep 25 2018 00:23 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 00:23 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:24 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 00:28 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:38 -!- Nebraskka_ [~Nebraskka@178.62.130.190] has quit [Quit: Good day, my fellow citizens!~] 00:38 -!- Nebraskka [~Nebraskka@178.62.130.190] has joined #lnd 00:42 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has joined #lnd 00:42 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-qwyfwrhtidvkjywy] has joined #lnd 00:42 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #1975: [tests] Force tick on FwdEventTrigger (master...fwdtrigger-force) https://git.io/fANra 00:42 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-qwyfwrhtidvkjywy] has left #lnd [] 00:43 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 00:45 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has joined #lnd 00:47 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:48 -!- waxwing| [~waxwing@193.29.57.116] has left #lnd [] 00:49 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has joined #lnd 00:49 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 01:10 -!- attilio [~attilio@cm-84.212.250.219.getinternet.no] has joined #lnd 01:21 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 01:27 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 01:35 -!- fluffypoodle789 [~fluffypoo@047-135-224-169.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 01:38 -!- fluffypoodle789 [~fluffypoo@047-135-224-169.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has joined #lnd 02:15 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has joined #lnd 03:08 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 03:13 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:26 < queip> is there gui or cli dashboard for monitoring of your node? 03:32 < mol> queip, there are two that i know of 03:34 < mol> queip, mably's lnd web client: https://lnd-testnet-1.mably.com/# 03:35 -!- lnd05 [5b98dfb8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.152.223.184] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:35 < queip> mol: which software does it? is it secure, e.g. is it sufficient to give it some read-only access to LND? 03:36 < queip> I assume LND has read-only access RPC... is that correct? (separated from full rpc) 03:37 < queip> https://github.com/mably/lncli-web 03:44 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:49 < mol> you have to ask @mably 03:49 < mol> he's mostly on slack, not sure if he'll read this channel 03:49 < queip> wasn't here a bridge bot 03:50 < mol> yes but not everyone is in the bridged channel on slack 03:50 < queip> roasbeef: damn you gotta whip this web2 nabs into shape 03:50 < mol> no 03:51 < mol> lnd has the app which is the light client, for everything else if you want to build, you're on your own 03:51 < mol> and there's another GUI built by Ghanavati: lnd.fun 03:52 < mol> lnd.fun is originally buit by Ghanavati for windows, but it's been forked by someone for linux 03:52 < mol> https://github.com/torkelrogstad/lnd-fun 03:54 < lndbot> lncli-web has two users, one restricted read-only for stats etc, one with full access (you have to copy the admin macaroon). If you want to pay receipts or add channels, you need to have full access 03:56 < mol> I played with lncli-web over a year ago when mably just created it.. for some reason i couldn't get let's encrypt to work 03:57 < mol> the gui is nice but lnd has changes daily, i prefer commandline 03:58 < mol> queip, Ghanavati said re: lnd.fun: "you can download original template from here https://adminlte.io/preview and rebuild everything from zero" 04:01 -!- urzds0 [~urzds@111.7.198.146.dyn.plus.net] has joined #lnd 04:02 -!- urzds0 [~urzds@111.7.198.146.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-gqsotkplgdnruvel] has joined #lnd 04:02 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth closed pull request #1730: [Not a PR] travis-testSwitchOfflineDelivery-failure-issue-1496 (master...travis-testSwitchOfflineDelivery-failure-issue-1496) https://git.io/fNx8f 04:02 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-gqsotkplgdnruvel] has left #lnd [] 04:05 < mol> queip, i've used lnd.fun to test payments between my nodes and his node 04:19 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 04:24 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:45 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 04:49 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:50 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:51 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 04:51 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 05:20 -!- jimmymow [~jimmymow@205.178.78.234] has joined #lnd 05:25 -!- al2o3-cr [~al2o3-cr@88.144.94.249] has joined #lnd 05:25 -!- al2o3-cr is now known as Guest64822 05:29 -!- Guest64822 [~al2o3-cr@88.144.94.249] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 -!- steeling16 [~steeling@41.218.199.139] has joined #lnd 05:35 -!- steeling16 [~steeling@41.218.199.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:45 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:51 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 05:52 -!- bezpol [5bf6447a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.246.68.122] has joined #lnd 05:54 < bezpol> If someone want test sms and lightning network please try https://pinsert.pl/sms 06:00 -!- bezpol [5bf6447a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.246.68.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:39 -github-neutrino:#lnd- [neutrino] halseth opened pull request #99: blockmanager: remove queryResponse length check (master...queryresponse-filter-check) https://git.io/fAALJ 06:40 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:44 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:44 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 06:48 -!- Nebraskka [~Nebraskka@178.62.130.190] has quit [Quit: Good day, my fellow citizens!~] 06:48 -!- Nebraskka [~Nebraskka@178.62.130.190] has joined #lnd 06:49 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:53 -!- bylzz14 [~bylzz@178.34.101.99] has joined #lnd 06:56 -!- Nebraskka [~Nebraskka@178.62.130.190] has quit [Quit: Good day, my fellow citizens!~] 06:57 -!- bylzz14 [~bylzz@178.34.101.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 -!- Nebraskka [~Nebraskka@178.62.130.190] has joined #lnd 07:02 -!- gener1c [~bob@unaffiliated/gener1c] has joined #lnd 07:02 < gener1c> so.... if i see tons of lnd daemon logs on pastebin 07:02 < gener1c> is that a bad thing? 07:05 < mol> huh? 07:08 < mol> i don't use the ugly pastebin, not sure what you're talking about 07:15 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-24-34-137-83.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:18 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 07:20 -!- Giszmo1 [~leo@45.232.92.2] has joined #lnd 07:21 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-72-54-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:24 -!- Giszmo1 [~leo@45.232.92.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:31 -!- sfhi [~sfhi@91-152-137-90.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #lnd 07:38 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-4-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #lnd 07:40 < gener1c> mol: http://termbin.com/7183 07:40 < gener1c> termbin 07:40 < gener1c> same same different name (and protocol 07:41 < mol> what's it for? 07:41 < gener1c> i dont know but i see the daemon logs there 07:42 < gener1c> i was wondering if thats something that could be problematic 07:42 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 07:45 < mol> im not looking at that link, but lnd has logs so we can diagnose issues, not sure how else i can explain this 07:46 < mol> same way other software programs do, like bitcoind logs, i guess you've seen them? 07:48 < lndbot> Termbin is for Travis tests Iā€™m p sure 07:48 < lndbot> Not used for anything else 07:50 < queip> yalls.org does not work over tor (publish article = payment error) 07:50 < mol> queip, testnet? 07:54 -!- alek1 [~alek1@121.177.48.119] has joined #lnd 07:56 -!- halfhalo14 [~halfhalo@115-124-158-118.ppp.bbiq.jp] has joined #lnd 07:56 < ctrlbreak> Hey hey hey... looks like I have a neighbor now! 07:56 < ctrlbreak> Cees2daBees [LND] 07:56 < ctrlbreak> 032d688b8f71a0ca1dd3dfdd08a8530a19bbd8aa558b2f089391e1cb9b6e8b61a4@99.232.114.73:9735 07:56 -!- alek1 [~alek1@121.177.48.119] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:57 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 07:58 -!- halfhalo14 [~halfhalo@115-124-158-118.ppp.bbiq.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 < mol> lol 08:00 < mol> ctrlbreak, is it your new LND node? :) 08:01 < ctrlbreak> Nope... literally someone in the next town over. Ima reach out to him in real life and share some of these damn lightning stickers and patches :-P 08:03 < ctrlbreak> FYI... I *AM* spinning up some LND nodes... FOR REAL. I swear. It's just that it's getting cold here now, so I'm focused on getting my mining gear back online for heat. 08:05 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 08:07 < mol> hm how do you know he's in the next town over? the IP can be misleading? 08:08 < ctrlbreak> heheh... I know... GeoIP was a guess... but then some OSINT pretty much confirmed it. 08:10 < mol> ctrlbreak, cool you can mine there.. go for it, and yes please do share when you have a LND node up :) 08:11 < ctrlbreak> I literally 'wring' my electrical heating through mining gear I already own. 08:11 < ctrlbreak> I've integrated about 4KW worth of ASICs into my forced air duct work as well. 08:12 < ctrlbreak> Good down to about -17C over the winter ;-) 08:16 < ctrlbreak> FYI - How tolerant is LND to listening on a non-standard port? :-S 08:17 < ctrlbreak> I'd like to run a couple nodes from the same pub IP if possible :-S 08:19 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:19 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:19 -!- gener1c [~bob@unaffiliated/gener1c] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:20 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 08:28 < mol> ctrlbreak, you mean ports other than 9735? no problem at all 08:30 < mol> here's the sample for lnd.conf: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/sample-lnd.conf 08:30 < mol> ports on that list are default but we can always change them 08:32 < ctrlbreak> K... I should have clarified; I know the technical ability is there... but are there any aspects of operation/issues involved in running on non-standard ports? 08:32 < ctrlbreak> thanks, btw 08:37 < mol> hm i don't think so but you can ask roasbeef to make sure then 08:39 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 08:40 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:40 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 08:45 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:58 -!- mtnielsen4 [~mtnielsen@189.2.81.63] has joined #lnd 09:01 < mol> ctrlbreak, the standards for lnd security that i've been told, besides general basic security setup for servers like firewalls, are "do NOT run LND with --no-macaroons, --noseedbackup" 09:05 -!- mtnielsen4 [~mtnielsen@189.2.81.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:20 -!- funke [4cbf1009@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.191.16.9] has joined #lnd 09:24 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:28 < funke> hi, are there any explorers out there that report the topology of the lightning network? 09:29 -!- Hammen15 [~Hammen@p4FE93298.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 09:30 -!- Hammen15 [~Hammen@p4FE93298.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 < funke> I'm trying to gather some stats about the network like diamtere, mean pair-wise shortest path, etc. I tried 1ml.com but it's network visualization (and the data for it) is capped at 500 nodes. Robtex has gather information that I want, but it's pretty hard to be sure of the validity of the data or actually consume it since there's no dataset i can download 09:30 < funke> maybe this question is better in one of the other lightning irc rooms 09:53 < rompert> @funke i once exported the data for third party analysis as csv. i might do it again if i'm in a happy mood and find the script. but there is no api. 09:59 < funke> @rompert *slaps roof* what do i gotta do to get you in this "happy mood" 10:01 < rompert> i'm a man... 10:03 < rompert> oh i found the script. i'll cook you a fresh csv 10:04 < funke> *gets up off knees* 10:04 < rompert> you can stay there a while, i have adsl 10:06 < rompert> "You must log in with services to message this user - see https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration" 10:06 < rompert> how am i supposed to give you a secret url? :) 10:07 < funke> hmmmmm 10:07 * rompert whispers https://www.robtex.com/test/funke.csv?password=knees 10:08 < funke> i like whispers 10:08 < funke> what are the last two columns? 10:08 < rompert> hopefully nobody else heard 10:08 < rompert> i don't remember :) 10:08 < funke> nice! 10:09 < funke> obvious but deserves confirmation: first two are nodes on the edge 10:09 < rompert> oh i think it is age or something 10:10 < funke> @rompert how are you able to collect this edge information? Do you have just one node running and are somehow able to infer the channels in existence? 10:10 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-24-34-137-83.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:10 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 10:12 < rompert> sorry pizza hut disturbed me. it is how many seconds since it last had an update, so you can detect zombie channels. 10:13 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 10:13 < funke> can you whisper it again? i can't reach the csv page anymore :( 10:13 < funke> wait, nvm, it's still up 10:14 < funke> but actually, i'm curious as to how you collected this information about the channels in existence on lightning? Is the information publicly available? 10:14 < rompert> not a normal node. it is my own bolt implementation with some spider technology. it is multi-chain and the other day it stumbled into testnet and started crawling that one, so verify some channels that they are actually btc. i *think* it is filtered :) 10:15 < rompert> yes the channels are publicly gossiped, and for the rest you have good old blockchain 10:19 < funke> what cutoff should i use for zombie nodes i'm only really interested in active nodes? 10:26 < rompert> that is a very good question. some ppls node are down for weeks then come back alive. but those are not... "serious"... i guess.. :) anyhows. take care, have fun. pizza getting cold. let me know what you do with it. tia. bye 10:27 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:37 -!- Gilou_ [~Gilou_@211.55.85.241] has joined #lnd 10:37 -!- funke [4cbf1009@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.191.16.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38 -!- Gilou_ [~Gilou_@211.55.85.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40 -!- gener1c [~bob@31.154.81.15] has joined #lnd 10:48 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50 -!- vmk019 [~vmk0@92.176.195.105] has joined #lnd 10:50 -!- vmk019 [~vmk0@92.176.195.105] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51 -!- gener1c [~bob@31.154.81.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:04 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:09 < wpaulino> queip: you can use the readonly.macaroon of your node to have access to read-only rpcs 11:12 -!- cryptodechange [~cryptodec@host81-129-62-46.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:13 < wpaulino> ctrlbreak: listening on a port other than 9735 should be fine, just make sure it can properly be reached from the outside 11:16 -!- cryptodechange [~cryptodec@host81-129-62-46.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 11:17 < iratemin> trying to troubleshoot my new node. I'm attempting to open a channel from my eclair wallet to my lnd node. I see Rec'vd fundingRequest, Reuireing 3 confirmations for pendingChan, sending FundingResp, then I error out with "unable to write message: write tcp localip:9735 ->mobileip:46369: i/o timeout PEER: unable to read message from 'mobileip:9736 read tcp localip->mobileip:43639: use of closed network connection 11:23 < mol> roasbeef, i just tested "Bitcoin Core" datadir, you don't need that PR 11:24 -!- bertman25 [~bertman@188.47.67.131.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl] has joined #lnd 11:24 < mol> roasbeef, all he needs to do is have the same rpcuser, rpcpass, zmq params in his lnd.conf 11:25 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 11:27 < mol> roasbeef, because even if there's no space but the name is "BitcoinCore" he still needs the same arguments ^^, because by default, LND reads "Bitcoin" only and when bitcoind is in the default directory on windows, which if you do this, your lnd.conf can run without those rpcuser, rpcpass, zmq arguments 11:28 -!- bertman25 [~bertman@188.47.67.131.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28 -!- sakuramboo29 [~sakurambo@118.223.204.56] has joined #lnd 11:29 -!- sakuramboo29 [~sakurambo@118.223.204.56] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:50 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 11:58 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:58 -!- vivid8 [~vivid@p54BB654B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 11:59 -!- vivid8 [~vivid@p54BB654B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:14 -!- gener1c [~bob@31.154.81.15] has joined #lnd 12:27 -!- sfhi [~sfhi@91-152-137-90.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:29 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has joined #lnd 12:35 -!- gener1c [~bob@31.154.81.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:04 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:17 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 13:36 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 13:36 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:36 -!- jimmymow [~jimmymow@205.178.78.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 14:06 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:14 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-4-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:17 <@roasbeef> ctrlbreak: what's you rq? 14:17 <@roasbeef> it handles non-std ports just fine 14:18 <@roasbeef> rompert: welcome to irc! 14:18 <@roasbeef> no emojis, but it's not too bad 14:19 <@roasbeef> funke: you can get all this data with a python script and describegraph 14:19 <@roasbeef> mol: so the issue is a space on their config? 14:20 < mol> roasbeef, i posted my comment on that PR, i don't think we need it 14:20 < mol> he's also asking to move the defaul of bitcoin to the other default where bitcoin is used with real money, that's just dumb 14:20 <@roasbeef> gotcha will check it out later today 14:24 < rompert> roasbeef thanks. I've been on irc for at least 2 decades :) 14:24 <@roasbeef> heh, well lnd irc ;) 14:28 < mol> roasbeef, i've never liked any wiki guide for bitcoin because they tell newbies to put bitcoin in windows default which is C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin.. so it's easy to hack windows and easy to know where to find bitcoin. When we started testing LND i wondered why you have a different default directory for bitcoin but then i realized it was a good thing to run a bitcoin node with empty wallet for LND and maybe you should tell lnd users to do 14:28 < mol> this 14:29 < mol> i remember this issue was also brought up in this channel one time a few weeks ago 14:30 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-72-54-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 14:31 < rompert> roasbeef: ah, i've been here a long time too but not very active. i sometimes accidentally notice when i'm highlighted though. don't get me wrong, i'm absolutely no fan of emojis, animated gifs and memes, but i am a fan of being able to write to someone that is currently not online :) 14:32 < mol> now Eclair desktop uses that default directory on windows and they use bitcoin core wallet.dat for real money .. it's their issue, not ours :) 14:42 -!- Jimlite [~Jimlite@190.3.217.180] has joined #lnd 14:43 -!- Jimlite [~Jimlite@190.3.217.180] has quit [Read error: Connection 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