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01:11 < rafalcpp> in LND, when you use RPC to talk to bitcoind, then is it easy for you to get the string of equest body from json, and then create http header based on it's hash? (that could allow for use of RPC with hmac, to avoid some replay attacks)
01:32 <@roasbeef> replay attacks for lnd RPC or bitcoind RPC? 
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01:52 < rafalcpp> roasbeef: bitcoind
01:53 < rafalcpp> roasbeef: although, it seems everywhere (besides windows) the recommended solution will be to move to transport PRC via unix-socket file, instead of tcp to localhost.  btw is doing that easy from LND/go?
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02:46 < Veggen>  Hmm. LNBIG earned 794370 satoshis last 30 days, they claim..
02:47 < Veggen> I wonbder how many transactions/day.
02:55 < molz> hey that would be $794370 USD soon right? :D
02:55 < molz> does he have about 100 BTC on the network?
02:56 < molz> wondering how much he would earn by lending on polo
02:57 < Veggen> molz: I was more thinking that it gotta be more than trhe <15k TX/day some competing coin has.
02:59 < molz> i mean i'm glad he's providing liquidity to some people 
02:59 < Veggen> yup.
02:59 < molz> but someone on slack just said mutatrum [5:53 AM]
02:59 < molz> Any else also got a barrage of channels from LN-BIG? I had 3 channels, but they added 19 new channels to my node. Seems not very useful
03:00 < Veggen> and by all means, testing large-scale nodes and finding issues with that is also worthwhile.
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10:25 < Talkless> Today I've listened Let's Talk Bitcoin show, Par1 about Lightning.. wo..
10:25 < Talkless> mindblowj.gif
10:25 < Talkless> I new a bit about Splicing.. but I was blown away
10:25 < Talkless> ~"there's no reason not to store 100% funds inside channesl" or something like that
10:25 < Talkless> you just can close/pay/re-open in one go O.o
10:26 < Talkless> if needed to do on-chain transaction...
10:26 < Talkless> just.. amazing...
10:27 < Talkless> And multiple parties can do combined transaction for all these rebapancing/opening/closing/paying...
10:27 < Talkless> And probably I imagein Schnorr aggregation will kick in at some point, saving some more blochcnain space...
10:28 < Talkless> Ther'e will be no point of mentionin "Lighning wallet", just Bitcoin wallet that does all that transparenlty...
10:28 < molz> theories are amazing :P
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10:34 < midnightmagic> :-P     
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10:47 < molz> :D     
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10:48 < molz> i know one person would oppose this for sure if bitcoin core wallet can spit out lightning txs 
10:50 < molz> (if someone wants bitcoin core wallet to do lightning txs)
10:53 < molz> Talkless, would you want this: https://twitter.com/MANewhall/status/956524605165928448
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10:57 < Talkless> molz:  didn't get that
10:58 < molz> <Talkless> Ther'e will be no point of mentionin "Lighning wallet", just Bitcoin wallet that does all that transparenlty..
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10:59 < molz> Talkless, what you said reminds me of that tweet
10:59 < Talkless> ah, reminded, ok.
10:59 < molz> not going to happen
10:59 < Talkless> I'm not talking about bitcoin core wallet
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10:59 < Talkless> just any mobile wallet will work with on-chain and LN transparently with help of Splicing
11:00 < Talkless> Bitcoin core development seems too slow for all these new cool kid stuff
11:01 < molz> we'll see
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11:01 < Talkless> molz: some mor satoshis are incomming into my lnd, whould you recoomend to enable autopilot again.. or create channles by myself..?
11:01 < molz> i prefer slow and secure than hurry up and crash
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11:01 < Talkless> molz: I'm not against bitcoin core being slow, no way.
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11:01 < molz> Talkless, autopilot is still not recommended for mainnet
11:02 < Talkless> I've just ment "generic bicoin wallet" like any other wallets are there, wokring transparenlty with LN, keeping 100% or most funds on channels, and SPlice-pay-on-chain when needed.
11:02 < Talkless> molz: oh, didn't knew that...
11:03 < molz> yea... well bitcoin core has a new tag for v0.18 but still no neutrino.. so some mobile wallets still need to wait 
11:39 < Talkless> molz: and no Dandelion..?
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12:06 < molz> no idea about that
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14:07 < SnowGoose> I think i succeded in running my lnd node through tor on windows. I can see my address in zap, but is this one permanent or will it change if i restart the node?
14:07 < SnowGoose> I tried putting my public node id : onion address under the externalip field in the LND config file but that doesnt seem to be the way. Do i even need to do anything?
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14:08 < SnowGoose> Trying to run v3 hidden service, i want to find my public node URI so i can start sharing it and connect to others. I want this node URI to be static and permanent
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14:13 < molz> congratz, SnowGoose 
14:13 < molz> i haven't figured out tor yet 
14:13 < molz> SnowGoose, do you have a vpn? 
14:13 < SnowGoose> I think i did, now i just need the finishing touch to feel i have control over my own address
14:13 < SnowGoose> yeah
14:14 < molz> the tor address shouldn't change then
14:15 < SnowGoose> The last step to get it to work for me was to direct tor.exe to put the cookie_auth_file in appdata\roaming\tor\ .. this seems to be where LND looks for it
14:15 < SnowGoose> Hm well, i still want to know somehow that my address is permanent, it feels like it can easily change now if i restart lnd, zap, bitcoin core, my pc or any combination of those : p
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14:16 < SnowGoose> I thought i could somehow specify my external ip:port in the lnd config file, but this doesnt seem to work for a tor setup. Maybe im not meant to, but i want to know for sure.
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14:36 < molz> hm is your port open?
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14:56 < SnowGoose> I have some ports open from my earlier node, both 8333 and 9735
14:56 < SnowGoose> But if i understand it correctly, i can close these ports once i start using tor, which seems like a benefit
15:02 < molz> if you want inbound connection from other bitcoind nodes and lnd nodes then you open those ports, if not, they still work fine 
15:04 < qubenix> SnowGoose: for Tor you just need to listen on localhost and Tor will take care of the rest. that goes for bitcoind, it will automatically listen on an onion for you.
15:04 < qubenix> bitcoin too*
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15:10 < SnowGoose> Thats just as i thought. So Molz, if you get tor working, you can close those ports in your router and firewall as tor does the job for you.
15:10 < SnowGoose> But hey qubenix, do you know if there is some setting i can do in LND to make sure my public node ID : xxx.onion address stays static?
15:11 < SnowGoose> My full node URI that is. What can cause it to change? Since i want to be a long term node i dont want my URI to change as that seems bothersome for anyone that has a channel with me.
15:12 < SnowGoose> Also - When i have my v3 onion tor lnd node running, can i connect to only other onion nodes or ipv4 nodes as well? What about people trying to connect to me? Do they need to run their nodes over tor or can anyone connect as long as they have my full node URI?
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15:26 < molz> SnowGoose, i think you can connec to both tor and non-tor nodes, but non-tor nodes can't connect to you
15:33 < qubenix> SnowGoose: your onion address will change if its private key is deleted from lnd's datadir, you can connect to any address type but only peers using Tor can connect to onion addresses.
15:35 < qubenix> sry molz, didn't see you already answered that.
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20:00 < lndbot> <pierre> If you are a Python developer using LND, we’re having a call next week to discuss the lnd_grpc project, which I hope will become the go-to Python client, please let me know if you’re interested in attending! Thursday March 14th, at  20:00 GMT https://twitter.com/pierre_rochard/status/1103328168969154565
20:05 < pierre_rochard> Might also be helpful for researching how devs are consuming the grpc api
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21:04 < jcummins> I just setup my lnd node (0.5.2-99-beta / Docker) and when I restart the container the process exits with error "invalid password". Has anyone encountered this before?
21:16 < jcummins> I deleted my macaroons and started over with my seed. Hopefully this fixes things
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21:29 <@roasbeef> wrong client password? 
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