--- Day changed Sat May 04 2019 00:00 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:02 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 01:01 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:04 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 01:15 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:36 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 01:38 -!- rk3y [~rk3y@unaffiliated/rk3y] has quit [Quit: Goodbye!] 01:39 -!- rk3y [~rk3y@unaffiliated/rk3y] has joined #lnd 02:01 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09 -!- rk3y [~rk3y@unaffiliated/rk3y] has quit [Quit: Goodbye!] 02:10 -!- rk3y [~rk3y@unaffiliated/rk3y] has joined #lnd 02:11 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:16 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:20 -!- laptop_ [~laptop@host86-166-172-184.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 02:24 < rk3y> hi there, any one know why I am getting error [lncli] unable to find a path to destination 02:25 < rk3y> for every invoice i am trying to pay? 02:25 < booyah> rk3y: do you have opened channels that are working well? 02:25 < rk3y> yep 02:25 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:26 < rk3y> "num_active_channels": 190, 02:26 < rk3y> "num_inactive_channels": 177, 02:26 < rk3y> is there any way to withdraw that money from my lightning node? 02:27 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27 < rk3y> obviously via lightningconductor.net/invoice it does not work atm 02:27 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:27 < rk3y> "version": "0.6.1-beta commit=v0.6.1-beta-rc1", 02:31 < molz> lol why do you have so many inactive channels and not doing anything about it 02:32 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:32 < rk3y> molz: i dont know what to do about 02:33 < molz> rk3y, if you restart your node, will those channels become active again? if not close them 02:33 < rk3y> no they wont 02:33 < rk3y> molz: i should manually close all inactive channels? hmpf 02:33 < molz> so you're connecting to zombies likely, that's why you can't send payments 02:34 < rk3y> molz: ahhh 02:34 < rk3y> how to auto kill the zombies= 02:34 < molz> you can close them with command "lncli closeallchannels --inactive_only" but i would manually close each of them that you have money in those channels 02:35 < molz> this is another example that makes me avoide big nodes, most of them are useless 02:36 < rk3y> yup now i understand 02:37 < rk3y> is there a way to avoid entering 144 times "yes"? 02:37 < rk3y> "num_inactive_channels": 177, still same amount of inactive channels are displayed 02:37 < molz> `lncli closeallchannels --inactive_only --force` 02:39 < rk3y> whoop 02:39 < rk3y> that worked molz! much appreciated 02:39 < rk3y> still i get "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination" 02:41 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:42 < molz> if you do a queryroutes what does it say? 02:42 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:44 < rk3y> lncli queryroutes 03c436af41160a355fc1ed230a64f6a64bcbd2ae50f12171d1318f9782602be601 200 02:44 < rk3y> outes": [ 02:44 < rk3y> { 02:44 < rk3y> "total_time_lock": 575046, 02:44 < rk3y> "total_fees": "0", 02:44 < rk3y> "total_amt": "200", 02:44 < rk3y> "hops": [ 02:44 < rk3y> { 02:45 < rk3y> lot of entries 02:47 < rk3y> brb 02:47 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:56 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:58 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:58 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 03:03 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:11 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 03:13 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:16 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:21 -!- devdig[m] [devdigmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hecvrbenkxwqtsfa] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:24 -!- devdig[m] [devdigmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xudnhhzriykprnxm] has joined #lnd 03:25 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 03:29 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 03:40 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 03:40 -!- rk3y [~rk3y@unaffiliated/rk3y] has quit [Quit: Goodbye!] 03:42 -!- rk3y [~rk3y@unaffiliated/rk3y] has joined #lnd 04:00 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:13 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 04:19 -!- MaxSan [~four@46.19.137.116] has joined #lnd 04:37 -!- MaxSan [~four@46.19.137.116] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:13 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 05:17 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 05:53 -!- MrPaz [~MrPaz@c-71-57-73-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:57 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:14 -!- aielima_ [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 06:18 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:21 -!- aielima_ [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:44 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 07:45 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:55 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #lnd 07:55 < rk3y> can anyone help me to withdraw from my lightning node? it always says: "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination", 07:57 < rk3y> i might be that the amount i tried to pay the invoice is too high?` 07:57 < Veggen> could be. 07:57 < Veggen> what channels do you have? how much outgoing balance? 07:58 < rk3y> yup https://pastebin.com/XLXjDwSE 07:58 < rk3y> when i send only smaller amounts it works 07:59 < rk3y> sending 60.000 sats it does not 07:59 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 07:59 < Veggen> how many channels with more than 60k local balance do you have? 08:01 < rk3y> none 08:01 < rk3y> all around 20k 08:01 < Veggen> then you can't pay 60k. 08:01 < rk3y> ok i did not know that 08:01 < rk3y> thanks ! 08:02 < rk3y> i tried to pay an invoice with 30USD - and it did not work 08:02 < Veggen> when paying, you move balance from your local balance to the remote balance. 08:02 < Veggen> if there's not 60k balance in a channel to move to other end, it does not work. 08:02 < Veggen> simple. 08:02 < rk3y> ah ok sorry than we misunderstood 08:02 < Veggen> (a bit more complex, for example you can't move the last 1% of a channel, or such) 08:03 < rk3y> "confirmed_balance": "717071", 08:03 < rk3y> i can move 717k cant I? 08:03 < Veggen> confirmed_balance is the onchain balance, in walletbalance. 08:04 < Veggen> you can use that to create channels, *then 08:04 < Veggen> *then* you can pay larger invoices. 08:04 < Veggen> lots of small channels are not good. 08:04 < Veggen> ..unless you only do lots of small payments. 08:05 < rk3y> Veggen: ok got it 08:05 < rk3y> how can I see my balance that I am able to payout? 08:06 < Veggen> lncli listchannels show each and every channel. 08:06 < rk3y> ok, but lets say I want to pay a subscription that costs 10USD. how can I see if I am able to pay that? 08:06 < rk3y> because I learned confirmed balance does not do that 08:11 < Veggen> lncli listchannels --active_only | grep local_balance | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e 's/"\,*//g'|sort -rn | head -10 08:11 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@113x38x63x74.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:12 < Veggen> ...will give you the 10 largest local balances among your active channels. 08:12 < Veggen> you can't pay more than the largest of those. 08:12 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:13 < rk3y> ok how can I increase this "limit"? 08:13 < Veggen> by creating larger channels. 08:14 < rk3y> i need to have opened a channel with 30USD in order to pay an invoice of 30USD? 08:14 < Veggen> yes. 08:15 < rk3y> i did not know that 08:15 < rk3y> thank you Veggen 08:15 < Veggen> seriously, it would have been wise to learn this on the testnet :) 08:15 < rk3y> but still the error message is misleading: lncli listchannels --active_only | grep local_balance | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e 's/"\,*//g'|sort -rn | head -10 08:15 < rk3y> "payment_route": null 08:15 < rk3y> "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination", 08:16 < Veggen> in theory, that limitation can happen elsewhere in the route to. 08:17 < Veggen> If you have 30 USD channel to a node with only 2 USD as largest channel, then 2 USD is the max you can pay via that channel. 08:17 < rk3y> now i know what means - best for micropayments :D 08:18 < Veggen> I usually create channels of a few million satoshi. 08:18 < Veggen> better to have few of those than many smaller, currently. 08:18 < rk3y> i am thinking about opening a big one with coingate 08:18 < rk3y> https://1ml.com/node/0242a4ae0c5bef18048fbecf995094b74bfb0f7391418d71ed394784373f41e4f3 08:19 < rk3y> how to find out what is the maximum amount I can open that channel? 08:22 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@142.162.20.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:31 < Veggen> max channel is 0.16 BTC. 08:32 < Veggen> seriously, my advice is: read a few good articles. understand payment channels. Do some mistakes on *test*net. 08:32 < Veggen> then continue on mainnet. 08:40 < molz> 👍👍 08:40 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 08:40 < molz> yea man.. we'll be waiting for you on the other shore... testnet3! :D 08:41 < Veggen> it's better to lose worthless coins than real coins. 08:42 < Veggen> upgrade to 0.6.1-rc1? (I'm more or less at stock 0.6, now) 08:44 < molz> i'm on master across the board, both testnet and mainnet :D 08:45 < molz> roasbeef said it's the same as 0.6.1-rc1 08:45 < Veggen> yup. 08:48 < molz> wondering what this will help go projects like lnd: https://twitter.com/bradfitz/status/1122966144346759168 08:48 < Veggen> there, upgrade. 08:48 < Veggen> upgraded. 09:08 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 10:08 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 10:26 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:49 -!- eamonnw [eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:53 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@142.162.20.53] has joined #lnd 11:12 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@178.157.3.139] has joined #lnd 11:46 -!- 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