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I see my 1-month channel with lightningtome was set its policy to "disabled" on their end (chanid 673725749984952320). It has stopped showing for me, when I do listchannels. Do you know what this means? Should I take any particular action? 04:48 -!- spoke0_ [spoke0@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/spoke0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has joined #lnd 05:16 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 05:29 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:33 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has joined #lnd 05:42 -!- dome [~e-mod@2603:3020:2608:1000:78fb:f326:296c:879f] has joined #lnd 05:54 -!- trotski2000_ [uid206086@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-olneakvmguehydzd] has joined #lnd 06:05 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 06:45 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@188.29.164.254.threembb.co.uk] has joined #lnd 06:49 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@188.29.164.254.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51 -!- peleion [~jeff@76.73.213.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 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host closed the connection] 07:53 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has joined #lnd 07:55 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udvuppulzvovvuye] has quit [] 07:55 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vsbabclarqwkrrxl] has joined #lnd 07:58 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:15 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:21 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@ppp-93-104-86-85.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #lnd 08:26 -!- ccdle12_ [~ccdle12@79.173.134.210] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52 -!- bosma [sid103570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hvywrsgvaiickiyc] has quit [] 08:53 -!- bosma [sid103570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhglsponfenkhzep] has joined #lnd 08:59 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 09:03 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:05 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 09:42 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@79.173.134.210] has joined #lnd 09:58 -!- AbramAdelmo_ [AbramAdelm@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/abramadelmo] has joined #lnd 09:59 -!- AbramAdelmo [AbramAdelm@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/abramadelmo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04 <@roasbeef> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ezdkfp/announcing_lightning_loop_beta_an_on_and_off_ramp/ 10:05 <@roasbeef> tangibleat: it'll be re-enabled automatically 10:05 <@roasbeef> nodes sample every 20 mins or so for inactive cahnnels, just so ppl don't try and route thru them 10:05 -!- hardforkthis7 is now known as tylerlevine 10:05 < tangibleat> tank you 10:06 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06 < tangibleat> uhm, but it seems it still disabled 10:07 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@79.173.134.210] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 10:21 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping 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gkrizek: yeh! 14:45 <@roasbeef> tangibleat: is the other peer online? if you're stable enough (and they're running lnd), they should re-enable it 14:50 < tangibleat> roasbeef: yes, online and I'm connected to them (as seen with listpeers) 14:51 < tangibleat> my node was offline almost 24h couple days ago, and then again offline last night. It's been up good 16h since. 14:59 -!- bosma [sid103570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzsvawssirrlqijm] has joined #lnd 15:01 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cocuqmirzetlyrrs] has joined #lnd 15:02 -!- sneak [sid204034@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pxcdrggylfddrzwf] has joined #lnd 15:05 -!- AFIP [~AFIP@unaffiliated/masterl1nk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:07 -!- AFIP [~AFIP@unaffiliated/masterl1nk] has joined #lnd 15:08 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09 -!- hex17or [~hex17or@HSI-KBW-091-089-169-130.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:10 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 15:10 < gkrizek> I see several mobile Lightning Wallets being developed and talked about. But I’m struggling to understand why you would want a mobile wallet. Wouldn’t that mean your wallet acts as a lightning node and therefore could go offline if your phone shut off? And you wouldn’t be able to use the same channels on a desktop because it would be a different Li 15:10 < gkrizek> ghtning node. Am I missing something? 15:26 -!- qprime [~irc@gateway/tor-sasl/qprime] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26 -!- qprime [~irc@gateway/tor-sasl/qprime] has joined #lnd 15:33 -!- dome [~e-mod@2603:3020:2608:1000:78fb:f326:296c:879f] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Thanks for the clarification. But if I have a channel open on mobile and I was a channel open on desktop with the same person, I have to do it twice, right? And running a lightning node like at my house and connecting both my phone and my desktop to that would solve this problem, correct? 17:49 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lnd 17:54 < mol> gkrizek which mobile wallet are you talking about? 17:57 < gkrizek> Seems like most I’ve seen create the local wallet, but specifically I’ve used Zap on iOS 18:06 -!- hex17or [~hex17or@HSI-KBW-46-223-238-38.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lnd 18:12 -!- francisco_ [uid418144@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tmzokufrjzcylrps] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:13 -!- dome [~e-mod@170.250.42.23] has joined #lnd 18:14 -!- dome [~e-mod@170.250.42.23] has quit [Client Quit] 18:35 < mol> gkrizek, do you connect your Zap to a remote lnd node? 18:44 < gkrizek> Well their latest version lets you do either remote node or setup a node on your phone. That’s sort of what I’m asking. If I use a remote node then I can use desktop and mobile with the same channels. But if I don’t, they are separate channels. Am I understand correctly? 18:54 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujseiukznolthtch] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:54 < mol> if you use zap to connect to your lnd fullnode, then that zap software is just like a wrapper, 18:55 < mol> the wrapper needs a remote lnd fullnode to function, but if you use zap as a standalone then it is a node 18:55 < gkrizek> Right, ok makes sense. Thank you 18:57 < mol> yea i know things in Lightning World can be very confusing 19:03 < gkrizek> Yeah, it’s the middle ground between “getting started” and the “underlying tech/software” that I’ve been struggling with. Like the logistics of using lightning for real. 19:05 -!- AFIP [~AFIP@unaffiliated/masterl1nk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:07 -!- AFIP [~AFIP@unaffiliated/masterl1nk] has joined #lnd 19:10 -!- AFIP [~AFIP@unaffiliated/masterl1nk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 -!- AFIP [~AFIP@unaffiliated/masterl1nk] has joined #lnd 20:11 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has joined #lnd 20:17 -!- spoke0_ [~spoke0@144.76.166.209] has joined #lnd 20:20 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:57 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 21:00 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:07 -!- spoke0_ [~spoke0@144.76.166.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has joined #lnd 21:13 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@185.168.226.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:29 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:34 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 22:11 -!- gkrizek [~gkrizek@ec2-54-149-179-115.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 -!- lndbot1 [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 -!- lndbot [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has joined #lnd 23:17 < lndbot> slack-irc bridge test 23:20 -!- manantial [~tecnecio_@unaffiliated/manantial] has joined #lnd 23:44 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:51 -!- AbramAdelmo_ [AbramAdelm@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/abramadelmo] has joined #lnd 23:52 -!- AbramAdelmo [AbramAdelm@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/abramadelmo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]