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joined #lnd 16:09 < bluudz> Hello everyone. Do you guys know what exactly is 503 Temporary Channel Failure error? Most of my rebalancing attempts ends up there. 16:23 -!- lnd-bot [~lnd-bot@165.227.7.29] has joined #lnd 16:23 < lnd-bot> [lnd] gkrizek opened pull request #4549: lncli: Add support for trusted TLS certificates (master...trusted-certs) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4549 16:23 -!- lnd-bot [~lnd-bot@165.227.7.29] has left #lnd [] 16:35 -!- dethos [~dethos@84.23.213.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52 <@roasbeef> bluudz: you're using teh REST api? 16:53 <@roasbeef> depending on what you're trying to do, you may not have enough outbound, or a channel in the route you selected doesn't 16:53 <@roasbeef> depending on which series of calls you'ree using, lnd will use information like this to build a better model of the network 16:57 < bluudz> I was using thunderhub and RTL to try 16:58 < bluudz> I even opened two channels with my friend, one with balance from my end and one from his to try to rebalance 16:59 < bluudz> I though there should not be problem just to send in through one channel and back trough the other rebalancing both 16:59 < bluudz> But that didn't work either. 16:59 <@roasbeef> i'm not sure which apis those tools use 16:59 <@roasbeef> but it's possilbe w/ the new apis to make a restricted route, in your second example, then _only_ goes over those channels 17:00 <@roasbeef> so if you have A -> B, and B-> A, then it'll only carry out over that direction 17:00 < bluudz> It would be really good to receive error which would actually imply what happened, no route ok, balance low in the route ok, but this error just is totally vague 17:00 <@roasbeef> however, there's a flag you may need to add 17:01 <@roasbeef> do you get that same error in your simplified example w/ you and a friend? 17:01 < bluudz> Yes 17:01 <@roasbeef> in that example we can give a more precise error since those are all channels connected to us 17:01 < bluudz> I do get this error in 90% of my rebalancing attempts 17:01 < bluudz> Different channels / balances 17:02 < bluudz> I was even wondering if its not being caused by the fact I'm connected via tor and the connection keep droping somewhere 17:02 <@roasbeef> hmm, do you see the connection continually drop in the logs? 17:02 <@roasbeef> like drop, then reconnect 17:03 < bluudz> Well I have quite a few channels so there is always someone dropping and recoonecting 17:03 <@roasbeef> heh sure, you could try to grep the logs for the particualr node pubkey or ip/tor addr or w/e 17:03 < bluudz> But in my channel monitoring it doesn't seem the channels would be dropping out randomly 17:04 <@roasbeef> but you're right that your simplified set up should work assuming you're not trying to exceed the reserve of out of the channels 17:04 <@roasbeef> one thing to verify is that you can pay an invoice of theirs, and the other way around 17:04 <@roasbeef> can be like tiny, 1 sat 17:05 < bluudz> Well I route lot of transfers from my friends side. 17:05 < bluudz> And we both used keysend to send each other messages 17:05 <@roasbeef> gotcha, so then forwarding works 17:05 <@roasbeef> i think then something might be up w/ how those tools are trying to rebalance 17:05 < bluudz> Yes must be. 17:06 <@roasbeef> they might be using an older way, when it's much easier now, you can do it with just some additional flags to 'payinvoice' 17:06 < bluudz> I guess each LN wallet implementation have different way to do the rebalancing 17:06 <@roasbeef> yeh, as initially we didn't have "first class support" for it, but we've worked to make it possilbe to do it all w/o any special code or computation 17:06 <@roasbeef> we def need better documentation in this area tho 17:07 < bluudz> It would really be helpful if the error actually give some information back 17:08 < bluudz> Even monitoring all the logs I find very hard to understand what actually happened to cause it. 17:08 < bluudz> But thanks for the help. I'll be working with it more and see if I can figure out whats happening 17:15 < bluudz> Also thanks for doing great job developing lnd! You are awesome guys 17:18 < bluudz> Just checked and thunderhub is connecting to lnd via gRPC 17:18 <@roasbeef> in a min I can give you a command to run that should let your example work, in the middle of this other thing 17:19 < bluudz> Ok sure we can try 17:27 -!- evanlinjin [~evanlinji@2404:4408:43ff:bb00:67a3:453a:d686:317c] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28 -!- evanlinjin [~evanlinji@2404:4408:43ff:bb00:67a3:453a:d686:317c] has joined #lnd 17:33 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 17:34 <@roasbeef> ok so: 17:34 <@roasbeef> lncli addinvoice 17:34 -!- wullon58 [~wullon@241.243.86.88.rdns.comcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35 <@roasbeef> lncli payinvoice --allow_self_payment --outgoing_chan_id= --last_hop= 17:39 <@roasbeef> bluudz: or you can even drop those other args, and just have "--allow_self_payment", then pay to an invoice you've created 17:40 <@roasbeef> just did it on my node (w/o those restrictions on the rest of the path) 17:40 < bluudz> ok will give it try shortly 17:41 <@roasbeef> --outgoign_chan_id is the chan you sent to send _out of_, so you'll end up with more _inbound_ on this channel 17:41 <@roasbeef> --last_hop is that last node you want to route thru, so this'll be the channle used to send the funds _back_ to yourself 17:42 <@roasbeef> setting that values gives you more control, but reduces the total number of possible routes you can take to satifsy the command 17:42 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:43 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 17:45 < bluudz> WHat is valid channel id? Is it this one? 643779x75x1 17:45 < bluudz> Or just the first part 17:46 <@roasbeef> ahh that's in the "new" format... 17:46 <@roasbeef> this comamand expects it as an integer 17:46 <@roasbeef> so like "1723167817198272512" 17:46 < bluudz> Ok 17:47 < bluudz> Succeed. Nice! 17:47 <@roasbeef> niiiice 17:48 < bluudz> Yes I guess I need to get more into terminal work rather than trusting the webuis 17:51 <@roasbeef> this might be a good issue for either of those Uis though 17:51 <@roasbeef> as it seems they're either doing it manually, or using the wrong/diff API 17:52 <@roasbeef> as this API we added to make rebalancing easier is new-ish 17:52 < bluudz> Can I find somewhere documentation for it? 17:52 <@roasbeef> lncli -h 17:52 <@roasbeef> ;) 17:52 < bluudz> Ah ok :P 17:53 <@roasbeef> there's nothing standalone atm...but that would be nice to have in the docs/ folder in the repo 17:53 <@roasbeef> bluudz: you could maybe point them to the PR that enabled this: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/3736#issue-342018233 17:54 <@roasbeef> here is is on the main API docs: https://api.lightning.community/#sendpayment 17:54 <@roasbeef> the special args we used are described breifly there: https://api.lightning.community/#sendpayment 17:54 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:54 <@roasbeef> lol linked twice by mistake 17:56 < bluudz> Hmm only thing I'm not sure about now is that I can see the payment was send from one channel 50k sats out, but I would expect that the balance on the remove side of the second channel would reduce if the payment came back from that side. 17:56 < bluudz> But it is still same 17:56 <@roasbeef> it depends on if you specified only one, or both of those args 17:56 <@roasbeef> if you specified the first one, then that controls which can it goes "out" thur 17:56 <@roasbeef> the second one is which _peer_ it comes back "through" 17:57 <@roasbeef> however, since you have two chans w/ the same peer, they can choose to use the same chan it came in on, depending on what version they're using 17:57 <@roasbeef> we call that "non strict forwarding" 17:57 < bluudz> Aaah yes that could be it 17:57 < bluudz> I had specified the last hop 17:58 < bluudz> So it probably came back on the same channel 17:58 < bluudz> But that way no rebalancing is done :)) 17:58 < bluudz> But I don't want to waste your time. 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