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#lnd 04:49 -!- lnd-bot [~lnd-bot@165.227.7.29] has joined #lnd 04:49 < lnd-bot> [lnd] joostjager opened pull request #4602: routing: proportional attempt cost (master...proportional-attempt-cost) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4602 04:49 -!- lnd-bot [~lnd-bot@165.227.7.29] has left #lnd [] 05:10 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:10 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 05:14 -!- laptop [~laptop@90.184.76.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:23 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:31 -!- reallll is now known as belcher 06:02 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02 -!- laptop [~laptop@14-13-107-185.static.kviknet.dk] has joined #lnd 06:04 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:05 -!- arowser 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[~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:12 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:13 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:13 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:14 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:16 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 06:26 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:26 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:30 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:30 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:36 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #lnd 06:39 < davterra> Hi all, I'm working on a simple script that includes this command: lncli --network=mainnet exportchanbackup --all --output_file=/foo and it appears that some aspect of the chanbackup changes with each call of the command, i.e., the hash of the output file changes even if there have been no changes to my wallet or channels. Is this expected behavior? 06:43 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 < lndbot> Yes, that is expected. The channels are encrypted with chacha20poly1305 which uses a random nonce every time. 06:43 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 06:45 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #lnd 06:47 < davterra> So if I run this command several times and then have several different versions of the backup output, but my wallet/channel state has not changed in the process, can I use any of the resulting output files to do a successful restore? 06:47 < lndbot> you can hash the content of the `multi_chan_backup.chan_points` array to find out if any new channels were added or some channels were removed 06:47 -!- guggero [~guggero@80.253.94.252] has joined #lnd 06:48 < lndbot> yes, you can use any version of the file you create 06:49 < lndbot> but if you open a new channel and don't use the backup file that was created _after_ the channel was created, then obviously that channel won't be restored. 06:49 -!- guggero [~guggero@80.253.94.252] has quit [Client Quit] 06:50 < davterra> Yes, understood. I'm trying to make an automated channel backup that only activates if my channels state changes 06:51 < lndbot> you could use the RPC API to subscribe to updates: https://api.lightning.community/#subscribechannelbackups 06:51 < lndbot> that way you'd be notified of changes instead of needing to poll frequently 06:53 < davterra> yeah..I wasnt aware of that RPC. Sounds much more efficient. Thank you 06:58 < mol_> afaik you only need to update the backup every time a channel is opened 06:58 < mol_> you don't need to update the backup every time there's a state change 06:59 < mol_> right, gugger? 07:00 < lndbot> yes, that's correct. only a channel open or close event will be notified on the `SubscribeChannelBackups` RPC. By default `lnd` also writes a new `channel.backup` file on every restart but then that file also only changes on new or closed channels. 07:01 < davterra> thanks for that clarification 07:12 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #lnd 07:42 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:42 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 07:43 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43 -!- arowser [~arowser1@204.124.180.72] has joined #lnd 08:01 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Quit: bye, freenode] 08:02 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #lnd 08:07 -!- lnd-bot [~lnd-bot@165.227.7.29] has joined #lnd 08:07 < lnd-bot> [lnd] bhandras opened pull request #4603: config: prevent displaying usage twice if --help was requested (master...fix_help) 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