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ZZZzzz…] 09:14 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 09:15 -!- lesless [~lessless@obligatory.vehicle.volia.net] has joined #lnd 09:22 < nibbier> I guess it's on purpose that lnd requires a password to start up? huge pita for me :( 09:23 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 09:41 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:56 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has joined #lnd 10:00 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 10:01 < nibbier> feels a bit like I'm forced to do what someone else thinks is good for me 10:07 < Asara> https://stadicus.github.io/RaspiBolt/raspibolt_6A_auto-unlock.html 10:07 < Bubbish> [ Auto-unlock LND | RaspiBolt ] - stadicus.github.io 10:07 < Asara> if you really don't like the wallet unlock that is an option ^ 10:08 < Asara> you might have to update some things in that script since its not up to date, but something similar to that would do the trick. 10:16 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 10:24 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-67-168-1-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:28 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 10:52 <@roasbeef> Asara: most ppl usually automate it 10:54 < Asara> should consider including a bash script in the repo in that case 10:54 <@roasbeef> ah meant to tag nibbier there 10:54 <@roasbeef> well depends on your env really 10:54 <@roasbeef> and as a node operator you should know what's going on then, since it's the encryption password to the walletdb 11:15 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:22 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:46 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #lnd 13:03 -!- jonatack [~jon@134.19.179.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:05 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #lnd 13:22 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 13:48 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:49 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #lnd 14:02 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:03 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #lnd 14:21 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@66.172.11.228] has quit [Quit: quit] 14:23 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@66.172.11.228] has joined #lnd 14:30 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 14:33 -!- brtastic [~Thunderbi@89-64-4-65.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:45 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 14:46 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@66.172.11.228] has quit [Quit: quit] 14:46 -!- qubenix [~qubenix@66.172.11.228] has joined #lnd 14:48 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lnd 14:59 -!- ctrlbreak_MAD [~ctrlbreak@159.2.165.130] has joined #lnd 15:02 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@159.2.165.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:23 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 15:37 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lnd 15:47 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 15:52 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 15:58 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lnd 16:02 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:09 -!- lesless [~lessless@obligatory.vehicle.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:30 < nibbier> Asara: I'm aware, but it's still a pain. script, service configuration, enable REST.... 16:38 < nibbier> if most ppl usually automat it, it completely fails it's purpose and should be optional anyway 16:46 -!- buZz [~buzz@unaffiliated/buzz] has left #lnd [] 16:50 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-67-168-1-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:54 < Asara> ehhhhh.... its pretty much the standard to have some kind of password on your wallet, regardless of what crypto you are running 16:59 < nibbier> Asara: I doubt that... c-lightning does not require it, my mycelium wallet neither, nor my BLW lightning wallet or my samurai or electrum. which one does? 17:03 < nibbier> hardware wallet have one, as they are - in contrary to anything running on mobile or PC - certainly not protected by logins or encrypted disks 17:04 -!- openoms [~quassel@91.132.136.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:07 -!- openoms [~quassel@91.132.136.76] has joined #lnd 17:09 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15 -!- saurus1995 [~quassel@221.146.27.110] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 17:29 <@roasbeef> nibbier: they don't require it as afaik, they store their wallet secret in plaintext on disk 17:30 <@roasbeef> most wallets have some sort of password protection, it's generally expected, do you want anyone to be able to access and run away with your funds? 17:30 <@roasbeef> as linked above, there're several ways to handle this, and if you don't care about the feature you can just use a basic password 17:33 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lnd 17:34 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 17:45 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 17:48 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-67-168-1-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 17:49 < Asara> sorry i am more use to using wallets built into full nodes (bitcoind/monerod/parity/grin etc.) and most of them, if not all require you to put in your pw to unlock the local wallet. 17:53 -!- laptop_ [~laptop@ppp-2-19.leed-a-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:01 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-67-168-1-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-67-168-1-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 18:13 < queip> yeah that wallet being locked is a fucking pain in the ass 18:13 < queip> roasbeef, people hate it when software shove "we know better" solutions into their face 18:13 < queip> that is a terrible thing in lnd 18:14 < queip> also, wallet encryption is anyway stupid, more coins lost this way 18:14 < queip> if someone wants to protect his disk he will encrypt his disk. 18:15 < queip> (that later part being indeed solvable by using password "password", but still need to muck around with a scriptT) 18:23 -!- saurus1995 [~quassel@221.146.27.110] has joined #lnd 18:26 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@unaffiliated/bluematt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:28 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@unaffiliated/bluematt] has joined #lnd 18:36 -!- jpe_ [~jp@89.244.121.51] has joined #lnd 18:40 -!- jpe [~jp@89.244.127.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:02 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lnd 19:03 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-157.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:06 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-109.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lnd 19:28 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 21:11 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lnd 21:13 -!- brtastic [~Thunderbi@89-64-4-65.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 21:48 -!- dermoth_ [~dermoth@unaffiliated/dermoth] has joined #lnd 21:48 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@unaffiliated/dermoth] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:48 -!- dermoth_ is now known as dermoth 22:21 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lnd 23:11 -!- lesless [~lessless@obligatory.vehicle.volia.net] has joined #lnd