--- Day changed Mon Mar 31 2008
00:07 < fenn> ferrocene + thiophene + ch4 = carbon nanotubes
00:09 < mech0r> you just won your way into my heart w/ that
00:09 < mech0r> ok nite
00:09 < fenn> anissimov is very precise in his words, it's unusual
00:11 < kanzure> he's a quick guy :)
00:11 < kanzure> he and I have been meaning to hook up
00:12 < fenn> he's usually on lucifer.com #sl4
00:12 < fenn> irc.lucifer.com i mean
00:12 < kanzure> http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/ is him
00:12 < kanzure> nope
00:12 < kanzure> I was there for months
00:12 < fenn> oh well
00:12 < kanzure> Eliezer would come into #SL4 from time to time :)
00:13 < fenn> heh random acts of methodical rationality
00:13 < fenn> i wonder if he knows the significance of fleur-de-lise
00:16 < kanzure> a piano song?
00:16 < kanzure> work
00:16 < kanzure> piano piece
00:18 < kanzure> My searches are not working out.
00:18 < kanzure> I've found maybe 15 different people on AIM who might do materials-sci
00:19 < kanzure> but they are all offline
00:19 < fenn> as i understand it, fleur de lise is a symbol of the french monarchy, it was basically their stamp that they put on everything
00:23 < kanzure> query:  "AOL IM" "materials science" only pulls up a few results
00:24 < fenn> why AOL IM?
00:24 < kanzure> easy to search for
00:24 < kanzure> Jabber doesn't get many results
00:24 < fenn> jabber is too new
00:24 < kanzure> and I am not sure if I want people who use MSNM/MSN
00:24 < fenn> google chat? :P
00:25 < kanzure> inurl:edu IRC "freenode" "materials science"
00:25 < kanzure> wish I could do a TLD restriction
00:31 < fenn> site:edu
00:33 < kanzure> I guess I can always search for @yahoo.com and guess whether or not the guy does Yahoo Messenger.
00:40 < kanzure> divado2001, yuhjer, m_rixman, vishista, scchang3768, cocomow, rwkozar88, whitchon, Galalah1, eugeneb76, agazad, bmk_pgh, yaramejia, bhargava_sumeet, shreelatha74, zhouflo, sunita_parasuraman, 
00:40 < kanzure> acconstantinescu, spyshkin, macdougall_bruce, meteorologist1 (most definitely), lilo_wood, yunfei_li_ca, qtchaitu, silvrdrgn13, xia_bai, xinxinli1979, jude_adarne, wienerdoglove, sunghant, jhxing002, builuan2000, d_biava, 
00:40 < kanzure> samarjyotikalita, jadeink05, liqizhenwj, klarry10, mkhan_ju, emily.eikleberry, 
00:40 < kanzure> serghei_dmitriev, maoliang_xiang, kwamoa,  chamaree007, nchuae34, ghidewonarefe, lihaiyong, caracara7, dinofavetta, jlfuentessa, jadambaa_ts
01:02 < kanzure> fenn:
01:02 < kanzure> $1/watt
01:02 < kanzure> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/1366-technologies-solar-power-energy-panels.php
01:02 < kanzure> [...] adding texture to the surface of the cells that allows the silicon to absorb more light, a trick that's been used before with single-crystalline devices but has been difficult to implement with multicrystalline silicon.
01:02 < kanzure> [...] silver wires harvest electrical current generated by the silicon. Sachs has developed a method for making these wires as small as one-fifth the width of the wires that are typically used, while improving their conductivity.
01:02 < kanzure> a set of wide, flat wires used to collect current from the thin silver wires. These bars typically block light entering the cell, reducing efficiency. But Sachs has etched their surfaces so that they act as faceted mirrors.
02:12 < kanzure> fenn: I found ferrocene
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05:50 < fenn> real-life demo of the state of the art in nano self-assembly: http://www.nanoengineer-1.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNA_Origami_-_Creating_the_Nanorex_logo
05:50 < fenn> i cant believe people in research labs still use manual pipettors
05:58 < fenn> nanorex is gpl, fuck yeah
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17:47 < kanzure> epitron: I need to do a Baez dump. I'll probably use your server.
17:49 < epitron> what's Baez?
17:50 < kanzure> Baez is the mathematical physicist who has been on the web since 92. He does weekly writeups on his research, the most energized guy you'll probably ever meet on the internet.
17:50 < kanzure> http://google.com/search?q=Baez+inurl:edu
17:50 < epitron> hahah
17:51 < epitron> whoa
17:51 < epitron> einstein rings are fractals?
17:51 < epitron> that's awesome
17:52 < epitron> man, this guy's page rocks. thanks :)
17:52 < epitron> so, what are you dumping? his collected papers?
17:55 < kanzure> yes
17:55 < kanzure> He has written weekly since 92, so I was going through all of his pages and saving them, plus all of the papers he cites
17:55 < kanzure> I am up to week180 or something.
17:55 < epitron> why? does he not back his stuff up? :)
17:55 < epitron> you afraid it's going to disappear?
17:56 < kanzure> packrat behavior :)
17:56 < kanzure> ah, week192
17:56 < kanzure> That's what I'm up to. But I haven't gone back to this in a few months.
17:56 < kanzure> fenn_: I had a surge of inspiration today.
17:56 < epitron> we could always offer to mirror his site for him
17:56 < epitron> in case it explodes
17:56 < kanzure> fenn_: piezoelectric effect + field effect
17:56 < epitron> or he dies suddenly
17:56 < epitron> then he could send the files directly
17:56 < kanzure> he's been alive on the internet for more than a decade, it's not going anywhere
17:56 < kanzure> but packaging materials is just a basic process that needs to be done
17:56 < epitron> dude
17:56 < epitron> things happen
17:56 < kanzure> sure
17:57 < epitron> car accidents... meteors... toaster mishaps..
17:57 < epitron> hard drive crashes...
17:57 < kanzure> Einstein ring interactions
17:58 < kanzure> epitron: what do you think of this guy? http://ferrocene.livejournal.com/profile
18:03 < kanzure> I have him thinking on the self-replicator problem. heh
18:13 < epitron> hmmm
18:13 < epitron> sec, just fixing ubuntu
18:14 < epitron> i accidentally broke GLX 
18:14 < kanzure> GLX?
18:14 < kanzure> Google Lunar X prize?
18:14 < epitron> (open)GL(/)X(11)
18:14 < kanzure> oh
18:14 < kanzure> oGLx
18:14 < kanzure> or oGLX
18:15 < epitron> no, libglx.so
18:15 < epitron> :)
18:15 < kanzure> much better
18:41 < epitron> for small values of better
18:42 < epitron> and much
19:46 < kanzure> Really this just needs to be a self-replicating AFM/Scanning-Probe-Lithography probe tip. 
19:56 < kanzure> fenn_:  from earlier today - http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Self-replication#Loose_notes
20:08 < epitron> ok, 2 hours later, i've reinstalled ubuntu :D
20:09 < epitron> (the libraries were totally hosed. i was missing symbols on shit)
20:09 < kanzure> heh
21:05 < kanzure> Argh.
21:06 < kanzure> Bohemian is in neuro and patho 
21:06 < kanzure> and doesn't have good debugging skills in general. Shit.
21:12 < kanzure> That sort of lack of competence scares the hell out of me. So here's my guide to pathology: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Pathology
21:12 < kanzure> Now we just need to characterize the special functionality and relationships. This is probably already available on some of the bio-ontology websites, maybe I can write a script to convert the ontology files / SBML into graphviz stuff to show on the wiki (I installed a graphviz extension).
23:11 < fenn_> 'pathology' is 'anatomy'
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23:12 < fenn> there's more to understanding how something works than understanding how it breaks
23:15 < kanzure> I've read a few pathology books, it looks like human diagnostics to me
23:15 < kanzure> as in, debugging
23:15 < kanzure> anatomy is anatomy
23:15 < kanzure> pathology is the study of pathogens
23:16 < kanzure> and their pathogenic tendencies heh
23:25 < fenn> i mean your webpage is just a list of human parts
23:28 < kanzure> haha, yes, at the moment
23:28 < kanzure> please excuse me
23:28 < kanzure> it's a work in progress, I was going to then detail the components of the parts
23:28 < kanzure> 'structure is function'
23:28 < kanzure> and I'm doing some research on neurosci and m-chlorophylapipezine in the background at the moment, 
23:28 < kanzure> I just opened up a paper about valproic acid and autism
23:29 < kanzure> interesting enough one of the authors is Henry Markram
23:29 < kanzure> I previously wrote about Henry Markram because of the Blue Brain project
23:29 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Blue_Brain_project
23:43 < fenn> i just read that name on anissimov's webpage last night
23:44 < kanzure> He's doing a supercomputer simulation of the mouse neocortical column.
23:44 < kanzure> with 400 different comp-neurosci packages simultaneously.
23:47 < fenn> whats with all the blue references?
23:48 < kanzure> IBM Big Blue supercomputers are in use
23:48 < kanzure> and IBM is big on blue
23:49 < fenn> so wtf does 'blueuctionist' mean?
23:52 < kanzure> no clue
23:53 < fenn> looks like some did s/red/blue/ on the whole article
23:54 < kanzure> ah crap
23:54 < kanzure> did I do that?
23:55 < kanzure> I wonder how I did that.