--- Day changed Wed Nov 05 2008
01:49 < kanzure_> For anyone else who's interested, I'm starting to forward calls for papers to wikicfp@gmail.com .. let them deal with the junk and throw it up on their site.
02:08 < kanzure_> Yay compliance training. "The University strongly discourages consensual relationships."
02:22 < kanzure_> Interesting.
02:23 < kanzure_> If a company has a group of architects that have been there forever, and in fact were hired so long ago that they didn't have to take aptitude tests or have diplomas, and current hiring practices require those qualifications, that's basis for a lawsuit.
02:23 < kanzure_> evidently a federal lawsuit. 
02:35 < xp_prg2> kanzure_ do you think I could write a paper on what I am doing with sbml?
02:35 < kanzure_> Can you be more specific?
02:35 < xp_prg2> for you what I am doing
02:36 < kanzure_> You think 20 lines of code warrants a paper?
02:36 < xp_prg2> well no, but like with my biobench interface and everything
02:38 < kanzure_> Do you know enough about what it's going to be used for?
02:38 < xp_prg2> probably not
02:39 < kanzure_> Have you ever publsihed a paper before
02:39 < kanzure_> ?
02:39 < xp_prg2> no
02:39 < xp_prg2> but I have done many of them in my 2 masters
02:39 < kanzure_> Did you or did you not?
02:39 < kanzure_> Usually thesis papers are published.
02:39 < xp_prg2> no I never "published" one
02:41 < xp_prg2> have you?
02:41 < kanzure_> I honestly don't think it's paper worthy. I'd be willing to coauthor a paper on the broader project though.
02:41 < xp_prg2> awsome!
02:41 < xp_prg2> let me know what you need me to do
02:41 < kanzure_> Finish the script? :)
02:41 < xp_prg2> ok
02:42 < xp_prg2> well I am close as you can see
03:03 < ybit> progress on openstim halted?
03:03 < ybit> haven't seen much activity on its wiki
03:03 < ybit> http://transcenmentalism.org/OpenStim/tiki-index.php?page=The+Tasks
03:04 < ybit> last mod may 15
03:04 < kanzure_> Superkuh had a "working" rTMS setup that produced tingling senations in the skin.
03:04 < kanzure_> Then laziness kicked in or something.
03:04 < kanzure_> Ed otherwise doesn't seem to be keeping up with it.
03:04 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/open-rtms/
03:05 < kanzure-> http://transcenmentalism.org/OpenStim/tiki-index.php?page=The+Tasks
03:05 < kanzure_> Ignore link.
03:05 < ybit> http://transcenmentalism.org/OpenStim/tiki-listpages.php -- look at the "last mod" column
03:06 < ybit> may and march of 2008 were the last modifications
03:06 < kanzure_> Right. 
03:06 < kanzure_> There's no doubt that it's terribly undermanned.
03:06 < kanzure_> Um, re: coil design, see the linkks re: line integral optimizations for coil optimization.
03:07 < kanzure_> *links
03:10 < kanzure_> Huh. The control circuitry page claims a capacitor that is discharged feeding into the coil. And since the current flows through the coil, thus the EM field. 
03:11 < kanzure_> That sounds too simple .. why are the circuits always with more components, eh?
03:12 < kanzure_> If that's all it is I should just go to the machine shop tomorrow and cut out some coils.
04:06 < splicer> I hope palin goes into porn now
04:06 < kanzure_> I'm not sure if I'm watching the last scenes of episode VI or the news
04:07 < kanzure_> splicer: I wonder if anybody has assembled a porn generator system yet for 3D modeling with textures stolen from images / videos of people.
04:07 < kanzure_> procto, you have anything on this?
04:12 < kanzure_> I guess there's OpenCP.
04:14 < kanzure_> The idea would be to let people upload cell phone camera photos to a service that would then generate 3D models.
04:16 < splicer> pixar, ILM maybe.
04:17 < kanzure_> splicer: With OpenCP you can capture people's faces from background scenes, and then texture them on to a model face.
04:17 < kanzure_> You can also do face tracking and such.
04:17 < splicer> ok
04:17 < kanzure_> So body shape could be extracted if properly contrasted from backgrounds. Cell phones make fairly crappy pictures typically .. though since everyone is always getting new cameras, meh.
04:18 < splicer> Don't they do something like that in movies.. create artifiicial actors... from ground up.
04:18 < splicer> like in matrix
04:19 < kanzure_> Yes, but not automatically generated from a small number of provided photos.
04:19 < kanzure_> Those are done by hand. :-/
04:19 < splicer> yeah, but maybe they have to be... we notice flaws in facial expressions easily... 
04:20 < splicer> the reason people in games look like animated corpses
04:20 < kanzure_> I might be mistaken, but I seem to recall something like this in games.
04:20 < kanzure_> I thought that in the GTA 3 or GTA 4 games you could upload your likeness via some cameras/photos and texture your character with clothing and facial expressions?
04:21 < splicer> The thing is... it would have to be the real palin
04:21 < kanzure_> Maybe that's the Sims.
04:27 < splicer> ..ann coulter too, and that other crazy blond woman on fox news
04:27 < kanzure_> I was eating in the cafeteria, which is surrounded by these massive televisions, and at one point the other day Fox was talking about ".. this extreme liberal .. Obama .." and it made me double take. "Oh, it's just Fox."
04:28 < kanzure_> "extreme liberal" hehe.
04:30 < kanzure_> fenn: I think I might be adding a new line to the "supply chain closure spiel". It's like 'tenure, except for living'. 
04:30 < splicer> Megyn Kelly.. her
04:30  * fenn yawns
04:30 < kanzure_> boring?
04:30 < kanzure_> I mean, it's just a rewording of the concept of being aware of how much food you have 
04:34 < kanzure_> Anyway, I just need to write the graph search recursion functions in a least destructive way and the graph-easy setup will be somewhat functional in a semi-complete manner.
04:35 < kanzure_> I was wondering if I should keep the C# graph algorithms, compile those into separate sections and just pass off the data to those in the CGI script
04:36 < kanzure_> this would potentially be faster. (but apparently I have yet to figure out monoclone and compiling the graphsynth portions on linux (particularly grammarRules.cs))
05:21 < ppk> lol
05:21 < ppk> what's with the topic?
05:21 < kanzure_> Otherwise we just go in circles for hours. Repeating stuff and so on.
05:21 < kanzure_> or also because nothing gets done ;-)
05:34 < kanzure_> Hm. 
05:36 < kanzure_> todo: surfraw + interfaces to amazon + digikey + a few other key places, then repackage kits/circuits with a "buy now" button client for given "package files". Optimally, an alternative to "buy now" would be the "how to make it" instructions. 
05:36 < kanzure_> or, not so much "buy now" but rather "order now"
05:36 < kanzure_> I don't care that it's moneyahs or truffles or electrons underneath ..
05:49 < ppk> did you check out that sybioss python script bryan?
05:49 < kanzure_> Which one?
05:50 < ppk> that william heath sent you
05:50 < ppk> earlier today
05:50 < kanzure_> That wasn't synbioss, and yes, I did.
05:50 < kanzure_> It's missing a few important pieces like "complex specifics", "binding specifics", and inducers.
05:51 < kanzure_> Huh. That's cheering outside .. conspicuously synching up with the hum of the computer fans in here.
08:46 < faceface> http://www.springerlink.com/content/c057h66g475w6360/ ???
08:48 < faceface> kanzure_, bkero actually I haven't looked at parts registry in any detail
08:59 < faceface> I got the above pdf
10:54 < UtopiahGHML> Production of healthy cloned mice from bodies frozen at .20?C for 16 years http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2008/10/31/0806166105.abstract?sid=4872f035-0536-4367-aa69-ddcc86539cc6
10:55 < UtopiahGHML> (Id like to know how well the neurocircuitery works now)
12:38 < UtopiahGHML> anybody tried Internet by satellite? using your own dish an pointing it etc..?
13:41 < kanzure_> UtopiahGHML: Bodies or embryos?
13:43 < UtopiahGHML> is it possible to clone bodies? I think ontogenesis is always used since we don't have atomic copying machine (Xerox is pretty slow on that one...)
13:47 < kanzure_> It is possible to use polymerase to copy DNA, it is true, and it is possible to induce meiosis or mitosis and transformation/competence when we need in special circumstances.
14:05 < UtopiahGHML> my blunt point of view of that is anyway : more personal asset of a living organism today = mind, copying organs = copying structure but not content thus... it's a progress but it's far from what matters the most today
14:17 < kanzure_> While copying content would be useful, don't rely on it.
17:14 < kanzure__> Huh. They closed that last-open physics class while I was sorting out times for my other classes .. 
17:14 < kanzure__> No waitlists either.