--- Day changed Mon Jun 01 2009 00:13 -!- DrTread [n=chatzill@cpe-70-112-223-97.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]"] 02:23 < wrldpc> Anyone have a linkpile of wearable computing, new textile materials stuffs? 02:24 < wrldpc> I met a lady who does fashion design and I want to impress the pants onto her. 02:24 < wrldpc> ... 02:28 < wrldpc> What's Reinhoff's progress like? 05:26 < bkero> EEGs are fun :P 05:26 < bkero> Could get a mood-changing shirt 06:03 -!- jm|afk [n=j@p57B9ECEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:20 -!- jm|earth [n=j@p57B9F485.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:41 < kanzure> wrldpc: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Wearables 07:37 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondimensionalization 07:39 < kanzure> "Examples of recovering characteristic units 07:39 < kanzure> A variety of systems can be approximated as either first or second order systems. These include mechanical, electrical, fluidic, caloric, and torsional systems. This is because the fundamental physical quantities involved within each of these examples are related through first and second order derivatives." 07:41 < kanzure> wtf? 07:41 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_equivalence 07:41 < kanzure> why do I see "effort" and "flow" showing up here 07:45 < kanzure> "The number of free parameters in a nondimensionalized form of a system increases with its order. For this reason, nondimensionalization is rarely used for higher order differential equations. The need for this procedure has also been reduced with the advent of symbolic computation" 07:46 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckingham_π_theorem 07:47 < kanzure> "Begin by considering the space of fundamental and derived physical units as a vector space over the rational numbers, with the fundamental units as basis vectors, and with multiplication of physical units as the "vector addition" operation, and raising to powers as the "scalar multiplication" operation: represent a dimensional variable as the set of exponents needed for the fundamental units (with a power of zero if the particular fundamental unit is not present). For instance, the gravitational constant g has units of (distance over time squared), so it is represented as the vector (1, − 2) with respect to the basis of fundamental units (distance,time)." 07:50 < kanzure> can anyone get me this? Buckingham, E. (1915). "Model experiments and the forms of empirical equations". Trans. A.S.M.E 37: 263–296. 07:53 < fenn> system equivalence says 'flow, effort' not 'through, across' 07:56 < fenn> wrldpc: take a gander at openmaterials.org 07:56 < fenn> nondimensionalization is a load of words 07:57 < fenn> i think i function as the heatsink for my laptop 08:03 < faceface> kanzure: look interesting 08:04 < faceface> looks like you need to ask your library 08:05 < faceface> Discovering empirical equations from robot-collected data? http://www.springerlink.com/content/221q465584853531/ 08:08 < kanzure> is that lipson or The Robot Scientist? 08:08 < kanzure> springerlink sucks (when you're not on campus) 08:13 < fenn> BACON and FAHRENHEIT are unusual names for computer programs 08:15 < kanzure> for some reason nondimensionalization seems to mean "just add coefficients to all of your terms in your ODE and then find out which variables within the coefficients you want to set to unity (with each other) first, then do something something something" 08:18 -!- kanzure- [n=chatzill@cpe-72-177-123-170.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]"] 08:19 -!- kardan_ [n=kardan@p54BE6845.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:45 -!- fenn [n=fenn@cpe-72-177-123-170.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:38 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@98.234.52.78] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 12:09 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:56 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-165-204.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:56 < genehacker> kanzure are you there? 12:56 < genehacker> kanzure_ 12:57 < genehacker> kanzure are you there? 12:59 < genehacker> kanzure_ are you there? 13:04 < genehacker> awaiting response 13:14 < genehacker> hello 13:25 < kanzure_> yes 13:25 < kanzure_> I'm on campus right now 13:25 < kanzure_> sata and friends are out at BFL 13:25 < kanzure_> just got back from Double Dave's 13:35 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-165-204.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:59 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE6845.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-88-250.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:14 -!- fenn [i=fenn@dhcp-84-242.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- kanzure_ [i=bryan@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05 -!- fenn_ [i=fenn@dhcp-84-242.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:14 -!- fenn_ [i=fenn@dhcp-84-242.me.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:16 -!- fenn [i=fenn@dhcp-84-242.me.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:22 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-88-250.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:48 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:59 -!- duzt [n=duzt@dsl093-216-054.aus1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [] 18:18 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE6845.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:18 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE6D0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:46 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-88-250.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:48 < genehacker> kanzure? 19:08 < genehacker> hello? 19:08 < drazak_> yo 19:23 < genehacker> http://www.physorg.com/news163076711.html 19:23 < genehacker> heat sink fins that branch all the way down.... 19:35 < kanzure> hi genehacker 19:35 < genehacker> so when are we going to test the filter 19:36 < kanzure> tomorrow is unlikely because fake mom is coming over 19:36 < kanzure> but maybe wednesday 19:36 < kanzure> you can test it if you want 19:36 < genehacker> ok 19:36 < kanzure> but if you need me that's cool too 19:36 < genehacker> also are you located by the fry's? 19:36 < kanzure> no 19:36 < genehacker> ok 19:36 < kanzure> I'm at ben white and lamar 19:36 < genehacker> yeah I know 19:36 < kanzure> fry's is up north 19:36 < genehacker> where's the fab lab again? 19:37 < kanzure> ben white and congress 19:37 < genehacker> ok 19:37 < kanzure> it's within biking distance 19:38 < genehacker> from the university? 19:38 < kanzure> well, maybe 19:38 < genehacker> I'm quite close to the university 19:38 < kanzure> but it's definitely within biking distance of my apartment 19:38 < kanzure> feel free to show up some time 19:38 < kanzure> anime nights are from 1 to 5 on saturday nights 19:38 < genehacker> I'm also not to far from a Japanese style arcade... 19:39 < kanzure> fenn lives here now, so we're scheming up ways to take over the galaxies 19:39 < genehacker> heh 19:39 < drazak_> kanzure: pm or am? 19:40 < drazak_> kanzure: well what would else would you do, narf 19:40 < genehacker> how will I know which building the fablab is? 19:40 < kanzure> drazak_: 1 to 5 of Sunday morning. 19:40 < kanzure> genehacker: well I guess I could show it to you some time 19:40 < drazak_> that's what I thought 19:40 < genehacker> any day this week before thursday? 19:40 < kanzure> uh possibly 19:41 < kanzure> it kind of depends on les 19:41 < kanzure> not so much on me 19:41 < genehacker> anyway I don't have internet access until next tuesday 19:41 < kanzure> I don't know when he's awake or available to open the door 19:41 < kanzure> yikes 19:41 < genehacker> unless I crack wpa2 19:41 < kanzure> I guess I do have ssh access to some supercomputers on campus 19:42 < drazak_> lol 19:42 < genehacker> or get some sort of directional antenna to get campus wifi 19:43 < kanzure> genehacker: someone is going to fund my myostatin inhibitors project 19:43 < genehacker> is there anyway I can use a router as a signal repeater, I have two of them. 19:44 < genehacker> the last person to live in my room left some cruft 19:44 < kanzure> search around for info on "meshes" 19:44 < genehacker> who's funding you? 19:44 < kanzure> someone. 19:45 < kanzure> there's about $5k to $10k USD available 19:45 < genehacker> whoa 19:45 < genehacker> do they think you are an actual lab? 19:45 < drazak_> I wonder if I can get someone to fund microfluidics sequencer 19:45 < drazak_> kanzure: link to your set of microfluidics papers? 19:45 < kanzure> genehacker: no, he knows who I am 19:46 < kanzure> drazak_: http://heybryan.org/books/microfluidics/ 19:46 < kanzure> uh 19:46 < drazak_> ty 19:46 < kanzure> drazak_: http://heybryan.org/books/papers/microfluidics/ 19:46 < kanzure> I fail 19:46 < genehacker> how long does your paper dump take to download? 19:46 < kanzure> forever 19:46 < kanzure> I suggest downloading the zip file 19:46 < genehacker> shit 19:46 < genehacker> where? 19:47 < kanzure> one moment 19:47 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/microfluidics_2009.zip 19:47 < kanzure> 60 MB 19:47 < drazak_> thanks 19:47 < kanzure> now, if you want it faster 19:47 < drazak_> I might download that then expand it on my phone 19:48 < genehacker> ok I got a download accelerator let's do this 19:48 < kanzure> http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/papers/microfluidics_2009.zip 19:48 < kanzure> genehacker: use that link instead 19:48 < kanzure> it's at the university so it will go much more quickly 19:49 < drazak_> kanzure: are microfluidics devices usually on SiO2? 19:49 < genehacker> I'm at the university 19:49 < kanzure> genehacker: then you should definitely use the sata.serveftp.org link 19:49 < kanzure> drazak_: PDMS. 19:49 < genehacker> it's like silicone 19:49 < genehacker> hmmmm... 19:50 < drazak_> kanzure: can you connect F to them? 19:50 < kanzure> fluorine? 19:50 < drazak_> yes 19:50 < kanzure> not sure 19:50 < drazak_> I want it for it's ability to make H-bonds 19:51 < kanzure> SU-8 is also popular 19:51 < drazak_> I bet you could flouridate the C's 19:53 < genehacker> what are you trying to do drazak? 19:53 < kanzure> here's a backup of all papers up to 2009-04-08: http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/papers/papers-backup-2009-04-08.zip 19:53 < kanzure> it's 744 MB, so be careful 19:54 < kanzure> oh 19:54 < kanzure> here's a better microfluidics archive, genehacker 19:54 < kanzure> http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/papers/microfluidics.tar.gz 19:54 < kanzure> this one is 237 MB in size 19:54 < kanzure> and more recent than the other one 19:55 < genehacker> blast 19:55 < genehacker> 17 minutes left on this one 19:55 < genehacker> 15 minutes 19:55 < kanzure> how quickly is it going? 19:56 < genehacker> about 50 kb/s 19:56 < kanzure> huh that sucks 19:56 < kanzure> have you tried plugging into a wall? 19:57 < genehacker> no 19:57 < genehacker> no wall plug 19:57 < genehacker> hmmm wonder if I could close my laptop and move to the library 19:59 < genehacker> what it's closed? 20:00 < genehacker> hmm downloading slower over here 20:00 < kanzure> are you sure you're using the satalab one not the heybryan.org one? 20:01 < genehacker> I don't know 20:01 < genehacker> first link you posted 20:02 < kanzure> ok, definitely use this one instead: 20:02 < kanzure> http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/papers/microfluidics.tar.gz 20:02 < kanzure> you should get a few MB/sec 20:05 < genehacker> I don't think I can open tarballs though 20:06 < kanzure> use winzip or winrar or 7zip 20:06 < genehacker> it's loading fast though 20:06 < genehacker> ok 20:06 < genehacker> it's about 3 minutes 20:06 < kanzure> isn't that better nw 20:06 < kanzure> *now 20:07 < genehacker> yes 20:07 < genehacker> blasted library is closed 20:08 < genehacker> I need to scan some fluidics books 20:08 < genehacker> also how would you like a scan of a robotics and automation book I found sitting in my room 20:08 < kanzure> dunno 20:09 < genehacker> I got a scanner and some free time 20:10 < genehacker> it has some math for designing robots 20:10 < genehacker> done 20:10 < kanzure> have fun 20:11 < genehacker> you might want to read this one alexander bolonkin paper 20:11 < kanzure> I thought you don't do names 20:11 < genehacker> alexander bolonkin = crazy russian physicist 20:12 < genehacker> if what he says is right we could put a car on top of RLM or any building in austin 20:13 < kanzure> by disassembling it and re-assembling it 20:13 < kanzure> simple 20:13 < genehacker> without that 20:14 < genehacker> any building under 1 kilometer in height we could put stuff on 20:15 < genehacker> stuff weighing one tone 20:15 < genehacker> *metric ton 20:17 < genehacker> http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=406&gTable=Paper&gID=27505 20:18 < genehacker> use the library proxy for this one 20:18 < genehacker> well I'm leaving the wifi coverage area 20:21 < drazak_> genehacker: make a spot on the side of a tube in a microfluidics device where a nucleoside is favorably attracted to 20:21 < drazak_> attracted is the wrong word 20:21 < drazak_> it's favorable for it to stay there 20:25 < genehacker> attached is ok 20:25 < genehacker> quick drazak 20:25 < genehacker> about to leave coverage 20:25 < drazak_> what do you want to know? 20:25 < drazak_> it's a dna sequencer 20:26 < genehacker> ok 20:26 < drazak_> dna is cut by photoactivated exonucleases to nucleosides, and then it moves down a small area, where it finds the place where it's most favorable 20:27 < drazak_> then, valves are sealed seperating every area of favorability for a different nucleoside 20:27 -!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: bryan_, nsh, bkero, faceface, tarbo2 20:27 < drazak_> and then the nucleoside is moved into the detection area 20:28 < drazak_> where it's detected by a change in light intensity 20:28 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nsh, faceface, tarbo2, bryan_, bkero 20:28 -!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jm|afk 20:28 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jm|afk 20:30 < genehacker> leaving coverage area in 20:30 < genehacker> 5 20:30 < genehacker> 4 20:30 < genehacker> 3 20:30 < genehacker> 2 20:39 < kanzure> I think he died. 20:41 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20:51 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-88-250.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:15 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:08 -!- DrTread [n=chatzill@cpe-70-112-223-97.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: wrldpc 23:39 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@pool-173-48-214-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap