--- Day changed Thu Jun 04 2009 00:04 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@98.234.54.62] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:16 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE4AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@98.234.54.62] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:26 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 02:36 < wrldpc> Fenn do you have the link to the journal of alternative computational paradigms? 02:36 < wrldpc> no fenn .. 03:05 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE4AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:51 < kanzure_> http://88proof.com/synthetic_biology/blog/archives/280 06:51 < kanzure_> oh shit 09:34 < kanzure-> back 10:00 -!- samrose [n=samrose@adsl-99-130-68-81.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE4AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- elias` [n=me@host86-141-109-194.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:00 < kanzure-> ok, backup is now up 12:00 < kanzure-> http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/papers-backup-2009-06-02.tar 12:00 < kanzure-> warning: 3.4 GB 12:01 < kanzure-> in a while it will also be available here: 12:01 < kanzure-> http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/papers/papers-backup-2009-06-02.tar 12:08 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE4AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:20 -!- samrose [n=samrose@adsl-99-130-68-81.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:10 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-97-98.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:34 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-97-98.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:39 -!- samrose [n=samrose@adsl-68-73-192-244.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:44 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-144-11.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-144-11.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:09 -!- samrose [n=samrose@adsl-68-73-192-244.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:36 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-144-11.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:36 < genehacker> you there kanzure 17:50 < genehacker> kanzure... 17:51 < genehacker> I can't download that paper 17:54 -!- nsh_ [n=nsh@59ec661e.adsl.tnnet.fi] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:02 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit ["leaving"] 18:04 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE3FEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:05 -!- nsh_ [n=nsh@59ec661e.adsl.tnnet.fi] has quit [] 18:07 < genehacker> err your paper dump 18:44 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-144-11.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:50 < kanzure_> why not 18:51 < kanzure_> does it work for anyone else? 18:51 < kanzure_> dies ut werken 19:39 -!- kanzure-_ [n=chatzill@cpe-72-177-123-170.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:39 < kanzure-_> hey 19:41 -!- kanzure-_ changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: galaxies galaxies galaxies. fast download of paper dump: http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/microfluidics_2009-06-01.zip and http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/papers-backup-2009-06-02.tar (3.5 GB (includes the microfluidics archive)) 20:06 -!- genehacker_ [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-144-11.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:06 < genehacker_> so kanzure I'm sure you've seen the diybio post about the request for policy makers have you? 20:06 < genehacker_> or something like that 20:07 < genehacker_> seems we've got a spook posting in DIYBIO 20:09 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:11 < genehacker_> hehehehehe 20:11 < genehacker_> this'll be fun 20:13 < kanzure-_> genehacker_: I already replied to that guy earlier today 20:13 < kanzure-_> he asked me to write a longer article or something 20:13 < kanzure-_> I don't know if I will 20:13 < kanzure-_> it also sounds like he didn't really listen to me 20:13 < genehacker_> yeah I wouldn't 20:13 < kanzure-_> also, I found some more content on the adl server that I completely forgot about 20:13 < genehacker_> we need to make a rule about diybio 20:14 < kanzure-_> http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/review/ 20:14 < kanzure-_> those are all papers about automated design 20:14 < kanzure-_> although it doesn't include anything about graph grammars or any of campbell's stuff 20:14 < genehacker_> RULE 1 of diybio DO NOT TALK ABOUT DIYBIO, ESPECIALLY TO THE PRESS, IT WON 20:14 < genehacker_> 'T TURN OUT WELL 20:16 < genehacker_> I want to test something out with this guy 20:17 < genehacker_> wtf I can't post to diybio? 20:19 < genehacker_> post successful 20:20 < genehacker_> NOT EVEN THE SECURITY COMMUNITY CAN STOP ME FROM POSTING! 20:20 < genehacker_> ahahahaha 20:24 < genehacker_> oh yeah we really need to consider other nucleic acids like you said 20:24 < genehacker_> they are simpler to make 20:24 < genehacker_> people have even made nanostructures from GNA 20:25 < genehacker_> link 20:25 < genehacker_> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-04/asu-smc042808.php 20:25 < genehacker_> sucks though 20:25 < genehacker_> link is bad 20:26 < genehacker_> http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/nl048246f?cookieSet=1 20:26 < genehacker_> well I gotta go 20:26 < genehacker_> I might get internet tonight 20:28 < kanzure-_> er, the problem though is that I don't know if polymerase can read GNA 20:29 < genehacker_> yes 20:29 < genehacker_> it looks like it can 20:29 < genehacker_> john szostak did that 20:31 < genehacker_> hold up 20:31 < genehacker_> too many tabs 20:32 < kanzure-_> I'd like the link. 20:32 < kanzure-_> it's exactly what I was looking for but failed to find 20:32 < kanzure-_> have you tried using opera again? 20:33 < genehacker_> http://www.pnas.org/content/104/37/14598.abstract 20:33 < genehacker_> I am using opera 20:33 < genehacker_> opera and firefox 20:34 < genehacker_> man I love my extensions 20:38 < kanzure-_> genehacker_: where can I find somebody willing to do the GUI work of my firefox extension 20:38 < kanzure-_> I spent way too many hours only to fail with XUL 20:38 < kanzure-_> maybe there are some scriptkiddies willing to do the work for me 20:39 < genehacker_> try the internet 20:39 < kanzure-_> wahoo 20:39 < kanzure-_> thanks for the paperlink 20:39 < genehacker_> anyway I'm stuck in a writing class disguised as a engineering course 20:40 < genehacker_> and I've been thinking why not make an irc chat client that uses morse code? 20:40 < kanzure-_> why? 20:40 < genehacker_> and display the chat on that blinky led on every computer 20:41 < genehacker_> well hopefully I have internet when I get back 20:41 < genehacker_> bye 20:42 < kanzure-_> ok 20:50 < kanzure-_> Bst polymerase looks neat 20:50 < kanzure-_> here's the paper link 20:50 < kanzure-_> http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/papers/Enzymatic%20synthesis%20of%20DNA%20on%20glycerol%20nucleic%20acid%20templates%20without%20stable%20duplex%20formation%20between%20product%20and%20template%20-%20Szostak.pdf 21:00 -!- genehacker_ [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-144-11.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:10 < kanzure-_> heybryan.org is back up 21:10 < kanzure-_> not that it matters since the speed sucks anyway 21:11 < kanzure-_> and it probably will not stay up for long since the main hard drive is full and is having some troubles moving crap off of it 21:21 < kanzure_> er, what's so special about a "cutset" ? why not just say "delete an arc" 21:26 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@c-24-5-85-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:29 < kanzure_> "The total virtual work of the impressed forces plus the inertial forces vanishes for reversible displacements" 21:30 < kanzure_> A virtual displacement "is an assumed infinitesimal change of system coordinates occurring while time is held constant. It is called virtual rather than real since no actual displacement can take place without the passage of time. 21:30 < kanzure_> "Virtual work on a system is the work resulting from either virtual forces acting through a real displacement or real forces acting through a virtual displacement." 22:07 -!- kanzure-_ [n=chatzill@cpe-72-177-123-170.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:34 < kanzure_> 20:26:29 omg/jblake: a [(n*m1) (n*m2)] concatenation produces a (n*(m1+m2)) resu lt 22:34 < kanzure_> 20:27:31 omg/jblake: it appends (first row of left matrix) (first row of right m atrix) to form (first row of result) 22:34 < kanzure_> 20:27:32 omg/bryan: where n, m1, and m2 are dimensions of the matrices?