--- Day changed Mon Jun 08 2009 01:17 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE50C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:41 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@pool-173-48-214-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:05 < kanzure> it looks like for bond graphs (the retarded American brother of linear graph theory?), there's a "canonical form" which just means the state equations are derived from this overall giant matrix multiplication expression dealy 07:05 < kanzure> huh. "There is a famous BBC Radio game program which requires contestants to speak on a subject without hesitation, deviation or repetition - to follow a rational train of thought - for Just a Minute. Next to impossible. As William - roving stream of consciousness - James acknowledged." 07:11 < kanzure> [14] J. Liu, Design of stable systems with uncertainties and constrained performance variations, International Journal of Control 67 (1) (1997) 23–32. 07:13 < kanzure> "linear time-invariant state-space model" 07:22 < kanzure> query: "state equations" "bond graph" "linear time-invariant" 07:22 < kanzure> "Towards automated conceptual design of physical dynamic systems 07:22 < kanzure> " 07:23 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kanzure-, Utopiah 07:24 < kanzure> "The method could not be performed on the resource because the server is unable to store the representation needed to successfully complete the request. There is insufficient free space left in your storage allocation." 07:24 < kanzure> thanks for nothing, informaworld 07:29 < kanzure> "A unified modeling approach using bond graph method and its application for model order reduction and simulation.pdf" has matlab code at the end demonstrating what they meant in the paper. they derive the equations of state for a given system. 07:35 -!- Netsplit verne.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: kanzure-, Utopiah 07:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kanzure-, Utopiah 07:39 < kanzure> "For instance, chemical engineers often assume that mixing is instantaneous and that packed distillation columns may be modeled using discrete trays." 07:49 -!- Netsplit verne.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: kanzure-, Utopiah 07:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kanzure-, Utopiah 07:51 -!- elias` [n=me@host217-42-207-213.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:56 < kanzure> adl.serveftp.org/papers/review/ 07:56 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/review/ 08:11 -!- Netsplit verne.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: kanzure-, Utopiah 08:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kanzure-, Utopiah 08:12 -!- Netsplit verne.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: kanzure-, Utopiah 08:44 < kanzure> http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~jos/fp/Converting_State_Space_Form_Hand.html 08:44 < kanzure> Difference equation to state space form: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/StateSpace/Difference_Equation_State_Space.html 08:45 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_space_(controls) 09:43 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:52 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE50C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-151-141.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:08 -!- cis-action [n=cis-acti@146-115-127-170.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 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written you a particle simulator 18:38 < nsh> unfortunately, it's to scale 18:38 < nsh> in fact it's just a particle 18:38 < nsh> no charge, i have billions 18:41 < kanzure> lovely!@ 18:41 < kanzure> when can I have it shipped here 18:52 < nsh> don't have to, it's functionally identical to billions right where you are 18:52 < kanzure> mazing 18:52 < nsh> aye; i accept donations 19:11 -!- splicer [n=patrik@h189n3c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:26 -!- splicer_ [n=patrik@h189n3c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:17 < kanzure> ok, what's everyone's favorite graphics library? 20:17 < kanzure> I'm thinking of doing something 2D 20:17 < kanzure> I have more experience with allegro than I do SDL (unfortunately) 20:22 < kanzure> oh. vtk. 20:22 < drazak_> Hg beating heart 20:22 < kanzure> mercury beating who? 20:28 -!- Guest19026 [n=kardan@p54BE3D21.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:38 < drazak_> kanzure: Hg+H2SO4+oxidizing agent+iron nail=mercury making beating motion 21:37 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]