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05:55 < kanzure> heh. #irantech
06:04 < kanzure> huh. before the double dash was standardized for long getopt argument option names on command line apps, gnu.org used + instead of -- or -.
06:06 < kanzure> http://www.vromans.org/johan/articles/getopt.html
07:10 < kanzure> fenn: http://adl.serveftp.org/rulemaker.pl how do you suggest I get graph input for this? everything else is covered (but everything else also is easy and doesn't matter as much)
07:16 < kanzure> http://iran.whyweprotest.net/
07:16 < kanzure> "We are simply the internet" hah
07:24 < kanzure> I wonder if di.fm has a 'timothy leary talking endlessly' channel
07:37 < kanzure> http://www.mohdshakir.net/2007/12/27/enable-vim-code-python-auto-complete
07:44 < kanzure> http://blog.dispatched.ch/2009/05/24/vim-as-python-ide/
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11:17 < ybit> http://filebin.ca/yuyjsc/FabricationofMulti-ElectrodeArrayDevicesforElectrophysiologicalMonitoringofIn-VitroCellTissueCultures.pdf
11:17 < ybit> "Fabrication of Multi-Electrode Array Devices for Electrophysiological Monitoring of In-Vitro Cell Tissue Cultures"
11:17 < ybit> any luck on obtaining the previous 3 requested papers?
11:50 < ybit> woah, a book i actually can't find online: "Computing the Brain: A Guide to Neuroinformatics"
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18:58 < kanzure> blah
19:15 < kanzure> superblah
19:26 < digitaltao> blahhhhhhhhhhhhhzahhhhhhhh
19:26 < kanzure> something like that
19:26 < kanzure> hello digitaltao 
19:27 < digitaltao> hi
19:27 < kanzure> anything new and exciting?
19:27 < digitaltao> not really
19:27 < kanzure> sounds boring
19:28 < digitaltao> broke, just spent my last duckets on a green tea and cookie from 711
19:28 < kanzure> okay
19:28 < digitaltao> yea
19:28 < digitaltao> :(
19:29 < kanzure> have you tried not needing money?
19:29 < kanzure> it just seems like a rather clunky buggy thingy
19:29 < digitaltao> i know there are elegant coding solutions to my problem
19:29 < kanzure> oh?
19:29 < kanzure> like what?
19:29 < digitaltao> hmmm don't know
19:30 < kanzure> then how do you know?
19:30 < digitaltao> faith.
19:30 < kanzure> doesn't sound elegant to me..
19:30 < digitaltao> 5 character solution
19:30 < digitaltao> sounds elegant to me ;x
19:31 < kanzure> faith()
19:31 < kanzure> help(faith)
19:31 < kanzure> hrm
19:31 < kanzure> no man pages either..
19:31 < digitaltao> heh
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20:36 < kanzure> digitaltao: so, I forget why you are in austin
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21:16 < digitaltao> why i am in austin?
21:16 < digitaltao> ..to live
21:17 < digitaltao> kanzure
21:39 < kanzure> most people in here are not in austin
21:39 < kanzure> or if they are, it's because they movied here after being in here for a while
21:41 < kanzure> so it's just kind of weird to see somebody from austin in here that I *don't* know
21:43 < digitaltao> ah ;x
21:43 < digitaltao> well, this chat is more alive then aha, i spocked it on the aha mailing list
21:47 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.zcorp.com/
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22:00 < katsmeow-afk> that Tim anderson is all over the internet
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23:33 < ybit> in a response to johnathon cline, bryan mentioned that someone in austin is building an led photolithography device, who would that be, anyone in here? 
23:33 < ybit> is he/she going by the "Maskless photolithography using UV LEDS"
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23:35 < ybit> from wikipedia article on photolithography: "Its main disadvantages are that it requires a flat substrate to start with, it is not very effective at creating shapes that are not flat, and it can require extremely clean operating conditions."
23:35 < ybit> "extremely clean operating conditions"
23:36 < ybit> cleanroom-like?
23:36 < ybit> that would costs quite a bit to convert my shop into a cleanroom
23:37 < ybit> the hepa ac/heater/purifier i'm finding online is $599 http://www.brilliantstore.com/portable_air_conditioners_soleus_pa1_14r_32.html
23:38 < genehacker> kanzure who is?
23:38 < ybit> http://www.gsfcc.org/index_constructioncontent_Design.asp has some good ideas
23:38 < ybit> e.g.: keeping the door from opening or closing too rapidly
23:39 < genehacker> well cleanrooms are easy to make
23:39 < genehacker> make magazine has an article on how to make one
23:40 < genehacker> using a hepa filter and some plastic container
23:40 < ybit> looks like i will need some help because i really don't see my parents approving of me investing ~$1-2k on a cleanroom/work area which they could use as storage space for yark work equipment -_-
23:41 < ybit> and i had found one on http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY_Cleanroom/
23:41 < genehacker> well do you have the vacuum coating equipment?
23:41 < ybit> ideally we're looking at recyclable water usage and solar panels, a semi,self-sufficient lab
23:41 < ybit> genehacker: nope
23:42 < genehacker> solarpanels?
23:42 < genehacker> hmmm...
23:42 < genehacker> maybe
23:42 < ybit> are you the student creating the led photolith dev.?
23:42 < genehacker> no...
23:42 < genehacker> KANZURE!
23:42 < ybit> i'm going to do this 
23:43 < ybit> (build the led photolith dev.)
23:43 < genehacker> wait are you in the area?
23:43 < ybit> florence, alabama
23:43 < genehacker> seek the alchemist
23:43 < genehacker> oh
23:43 < ybit> eh?
23:43 < genehacker> I can see why a self-sufficient lab would be important
23:43 < ybit> heh, yeah "florence, wtf!?" ;)
23:44 < genehacker> well if you have a lot of open space I can link you to some machines capable of making certain chemicals
23:45  * ybit will have to decide if the cleanroom is a viable option here or if i need to invest in my own place, which would then cause a slight delay in acquiring the parts necessary for the lab
23:45 < ybit> feel free to go ahead link me
23:45 < genehacker> for uh... making fulminants
23:47 < ybit> genehacker: also i'm not finding the make magazine article you referenced
23:48 < genehacker> the one about biology hacking plants and stuff
23:48 < genehacker> clean room was for growing mushrooms
23:50 < ybit> i'm seeing references to air purifiers in articles like 'home mycology lab' but you have to be careful about what type of air purifier you acquire, for instance, you don't need the ones which ionize the room
23:50 < ybit> < genehacker> well if you have a lot of open space I can link you to some machines capable of making certain chemicals
23:51 < ybit> ^feel free to link? 
23:51 < genehacker> google perchlorate cell
23:51 < genehacker> or chlorate cell