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04:40 < ybit> 22:43 < ybit> nice find kanzure, concerning legos organization
04:40 < ybit> s/kanzure/fenn
07:07 < kanzure> Effect of Pulsed 5.62 GHz Microwaves on Squirrel Monkeys (Saimiri sciureus) Performing a Repeated Acquisition Task
07:16 < kanzure> /000-Chem/Hairy Root/HR__A step-by-step protocol for Agrobacterium mediated transform in Poplar.pdf
07:18 < kanzure> Large Scale Production of microorganisms, proteins, and metabolites.pdf <-- can anyone find this?
07:23 < kanzure> Methodology for Algae Photobioreactor Design, ingenious natural light pipes.pdf
07:27 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.genomecanada.ca/medias/PDF/EN/Synthetic-Biosystems-for-Production-High-Value-Plant-Metabolites.pdf
07:28 < katsmeow-afk> Results 1 - 51 of 51 for allinurl: "metabolites.pdf" filetype:pdf. 
07:28 < katsmeow-afk> didn't get any closer, sorry
07:29 < kanzure> simple electrostatic precipitator.pdf
07:32  * kanzure needs to remember to figure out how to draw triangles with OCC today (without using StlMesh_Mesh)
08:15 < kanzure> aha.
08:15 < kanzure> pythonOCC/samples/Level1/TopologyBuilding/topology_building.py gives some good examples for edge(), wire() and face()
08:15 < kanzure> although I have to somehow convert from face to a TopoDS_Shape() (don't I?)
09:37 < kanzure> or an OCC.StlMesh.StlMesh_Mesh to OCC.TopoDS.TopODS_*
09:39 < kanzure> why is top vs. bottom posting still an issue? the bottom posters won. but still on many mailing lists that I am subscribed to, people act like it's still in question.
09:39 < kanzure> the eternal war rages on! rawr. or something
09:39 < kanzure> fenn: where did you put the davinci backup?
09:39 < katsmeow-afk> well, reply to them backwards
09:39 < katsmeow-afk> or, backwards them to reply , well
09:40 < kanzure> what?
09:40 < katsmeow-afk> the top posters
09:40  * kanzure might consider converting to diagonal cross-posting only
09:40 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/opencascade/doc/ReferenceDocumentation/DataExchange/html/classStlTransfer.html
09:41 < kanzure> so you can convert a TopoDS_Shape object to an StlMesh but not the other way around?
09:41 < katsmeow-afk> if they want the flow of conversation reversed, reply reversed
09:42 < kanzure> are you saying to give in?
09:42 < kanzure> it's just kind of ironic that all the programmers on the net typically do bottom posting
09:42 < kanzure> and then when people want to imitate them, or claim they want to imitate them, they completely fail
09:42 < kanzure> forcing style is a good way of learning, I've found.
09:43 < kanzure> er, I mean, forcing yourself to use a particular style- but anyway.
09:43 < katsmeow-afk> how is it giving in by reversing your post?:
09:43 < katsmeow-afk> [09:33] <katsmeow-afk> well, reply to them backwards
09:43 < katsmeow-afk> [09:34] <katsmeow-afk> or, backwards them to reply , well
09:44 < kanzure> this is very confusing. is this intended?
09:44 < katsmeow-afk> it is intended to confuse, yeas
09:45 < katsmeow-afk> they make you read from the bottom up, so while you're at it, write your reply from the  bottom up
09:45 < kanzure> it looks like OCC wants you to use a TopExp_Explorer on a mesh and then build faces via TopoDS_Face
09:45 < katsmeow-afk> (of your paragraph, not the page)
09:46 < kanzure> ah
09:48 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * rbc0b69d12978 /import_tools/occ-pyldraw.py: added notes to occ-ypldraw.py, committing before I make too many changes
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10:12 < kanzure> todo: pyldraw/ldraw-0.10/main/ldraw/parts.py line 284 defines the load() method which needs to be redefined, or given a sibling for loading from a string (no reason to use files only, yeesh)
10:15 < kanzure> ok. done. :p
10:15 < kanzure> not sure where to send my updates to pyldraw really
10:43 < flazmot> my wardial box has been up almost 40 days
10:43 < flazmot> ._.
10:44 < flazmot> python opencog
10:44 < flazmot> if they'd had that two years ago today
10:44 < flazmot> -- i tell you true --
10:44 < flazmot> that's what i'd have written my bot it in
10:44 < flazmot> i'll bring my bot later
10:44 < flazmot> you guys will LIKE it.
10:44 < flazmot> i used Conceptnet
10:44 < flazmot> outta mit ,_,
10:45 < flazmot> "that's what i'd have written my bot it in"
10:45 < flazmot> i meant,
10:45 < flazmot> i'd have used that for my bot
10:45 < flazmot> i'm pretty stoned
10:45 < flazmot> so that was more likely glossolalia, ursprach
10:45 < flazmot> than typos
10:45 < flazmot> see
10:45 < flazmot> when i say glossolalia, ursprach i am -not- talking about a place in Scotland...
10:45 < flazmot> anyone
10:52 < wrldpc2> wardialing?  Are you broadcasting from 1987-89?
11:15 < flazmot> theres still neat stuff on the phone
11:15 < flazmot> i should be wardialling now
11:15 < flazmot> i need a y-jack
11:15 < flazmot> bad
11:15 < flazmot> i always have to unplug the phone or internet to wardial
11:15 < flazmot> grrrr
11:15 < flazmot> i'm about 25% done one local exchange
11:15 < flazmot> i shouldnt have left the city
11:15 < flazmot> :(
11:17 < flazmot> i can't believe irssi uses /n to list the "names" instead of /w for "who"
11:18 < flazmot> its a change i cant really accept
11:18 < flazmot> i'd use irssi if it was more like bitchx
11:18 < flazmot> and bitchx is not finished and will never be finished, and has bugs and holes
11:18 < flazmot> but i have used it on acid and can't move past it now. it's engrained as my irc communicator
11:18 < flazmot> i wish i could use irssi
11:18 < flazmot> brb
11:34 < kanzure> Init(BRepBuilderAPI_MakeShell *,Handle_Geom_Surface const &,Standard_Real const,Standard_Real const,Standard_Real const,Standard_Real const,Standard_Bool
11:34 < kanzure> ean const)
11:34 < kanzure> something about OCC.Geom ? or maybe OCC.Geom2d? OCC.GeomLib? 
11:35 < kanzure> if you do OCC.Geom.Geom_Surface(), you'll see that there's no constructor defined
11:35 < kanzure> so if it was a Handle_Geom_Surface, what do you do?
11:39 < fenn> try BRep_Tool().Surface(your_topoDS_face)
11:40 < kanzure> where is BRep_Tool()?
11:40 < fenn> from BRep import *
11:47 < ybit> kanzure: what are those papers from..testing pyscholar?
11:47 < kanzure> what?
11:47 < kanzure> oh
11:47 < kanzure> no, they are from the link that I pasted as the "treat" for the evening
11:47 < ybit> ah
11:48 < kanzure> fenn: how do I use STLImporter without using a file?
11:48 < kanzure> or whatever the piping magic was?
11:48 < ybit> i'm guessing superkuh can find Large Scale Production of microorganisms, proteins, and metabolites.pdf 
12:02 < kanzure> stl loading is slow
12:03 < kanzure> STL drawing is also slow
12:42 < kanzure> OCC.Display.wxSamplesGui.display.DisplayShape() takes a list which is usually returned by something.Shape()
12:42 < kanzure> but something.Shape() is really just returning a list of AIS shape context object thingies
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13:18 < kanzure> fenn: so what should I do since STL loading is taking too long?
13:22 < kanzure> fenn: http://www.opencascade.org/org/forum/thread_3145/
13:22 < kanzure> sounds like what you want to do
13:24 < kanzure> all of the fast STL loading methods use XSDRAWSTLVRML
13:24 < kanzure> which doesn't seem to be present in pythonOCC
13:26 < fenn> have you tried the StlMesh_MeshExplorer().NextTriangle(); BRepBuilderAPI_MakePolygon; CompoundBuilder.Add(face)
13:26 < fenn> in the last link
13:27 < fenn> that was a paraphrase btw
13:28 < kanzure> not yet
13:29 < fenn> does XSDRAWSTLVRML still exist?
13:29 < kanzure> according to pythonocc.org/pythonOCCstats.txt - no
13:41 < fenn> cool geometry reconstruction algorithms here (not OCC related) http://www.cad.zju.edu.cn/home/hwlin/
13:50 < kanzure> what is "number domains" about in STL?
13:50 < kanzure> especially in that code snippit that you referenced
13:50 < kanzure> I only have one in these STL files
13:51 < kanzure> but it looks like there's a nested for loop where the real magic happens
13:51 < kanzure> so I don't think I have to care that NbDomains==1
13:51 < kanzure> bah screw them for their chinese-zen-like domains: cad.zju.edu.cn
13:52 < CIA-43> skdb:  * r6387ab66ead8 /paths.py: try to get MakeFillet2d to work
13:52 < CIA-43> skdb:  * r986ff0f5584a / (4 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb
13:56 < kanzure> er, does MakeFillet2d work?
14:04 < fenn> no
14:04 < fenn> at least i can't figure it out
14:05 < fenn> haven't entirely given up on it
14:12 < ybit-scanning> interesting
14:12 < ybit-scanning> http://www.hermanmiller.com/Products/Aeron-Chairs
14:13 < ybit-scanning> they release their cad files
14:24 < kanzure> fenn: it segfaults.
14:24 < kanzure> thanks for nothing :p
14:26 < wrldpc2> you want the dwg's or the 3ds's?  seems to be working here.
14:27 < wrldpc2> gotta jet in a sec
14:39 < fenn> i wish there were example code for every class
14:40 < kanzure> the ability to search for which other functions either result in certain objects or require certain objects as parameters would help out greatly
14:44 < ybit-scanning> has there been any decent suggestions for getting around the talent overhead problem of formalized characterizations of processes?. 
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14:54 < fenn> validation tools, separation of code and data
14:54 < fenn> that's what i came up with at least
15:01 < fenn> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/fenn/lego_stepmodels.tgz
15:02 < kanzure> wah where's my scuba diver
15:05 < fenn> apparently those were made in pro/E
15:09 < ybit-scanning> fenn: was "validation tools, separation of code and data" re:suggestions for talent overhead problem?
15:09 < fenn> ya
15:09 < fenn> how's the scanning going?
15:10 < ybit-scanning> p.125 of fundamental principles of of manufacturing processes. it takes about 1.2mins to scan one page
15:10 < ybit-scanning> it's actually quite enjoyable
15:11 < ybit-scanning> i've been catching up on news feeds and reading text that i've been meaning to read
15:12 < fenn> are you going to OCR it?
15:12 < fenn> wait, fundamental principles of manufacturing processes? i heard that was crap
15:12 < ybit-scanning> i usually can only type with one hand which usually makes communicating online a hassle, but i've found that it's best to just scan when i feel like it (every 2 mins or so) so that the scanner and OS don't start breaking.. using my bro's flatbed at his house on a win machine
15:14 < ybit-scanning> my gentoo powered 1ghz 512mb machine runs faster than his 64bit dual core 2.3ghz system with 3gb of mem
15:14 < ybit-scanning> so sad
15:15 < ybit-scanning> fenn: i'm scanning it first.. manufacturing processes reference guide is up next and then the other book which i forget some of its title 
15:17 < ybit-scanning> re:ocr. i plan on it
15:25 < ybit-scanning> other sports of interest for the 21st century, umm... creating new species
15:25 < ybit-scanning> yeah, that seems like a little more fun than hunting new ones down imho
15:26 < ybit-scanning> tele-robotic pre-settlement is another
15:27 < ybit-scanning> science replacing sports in the 21st century is even better
15:44 < kanzure> cleaned up a bit and added some files so that I don't lose myself:
15:44 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/
15:47 < kanzure> ybit: if you have some time on a windows machine, mind figuring out whether or not this works? http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/LdrDat2Obj.zip
15:47 < kanzure> you may need to also have this present:
15:47 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/ldraw-parts-library-unix-complete.tgz
15:48 < kanzure> and something like this: http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/simple.ldr
15:52 < kanzure> matt!
15:56 < fenn> http://digitalbricks.org/data/lgeo.zip
15:57 < fenn> and you might need this to use it with ldraw http://www.hassings.dk/l3/l3p.html
15:57 < kanzure> so I'm confused
15:57 < kanzure> how is it getting primitives information?
15:57 < kanzure> from STL?
15:58 < fenn> no
15:58 < fenn> look at the files in lg/
15:58 < fenn> vim lg/lg_0020.inc
15:58 < kanzure> and how do you plan to import povray to opencascade?
15:59 < kanzure> just confused
15:59 < fenn> i have no idea
16:00 < kanzure> "Currently 33 (plus all rings and cones) of the most used primitives have POV equivalents. You can see which by executing "l3p -pp"
16:01 < fenn> primitive = brick types?
16:01 < kanzure> "So the next idea to try out, was to replace some of the round/curved primitives in the P directory with POV equivalents, e.g. to replace the 16 quads in 4-4cyli.dat with the perfectly round POV object "cylinder { <0,0,0>, <0,1,0>, 1 open }"."
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16:03 < fenn>  I wanted the ability to substutite POV language commands in the comments of a .DAT file that could be used in place of the DAT primitives when rendering through POV. This would allow users to add native POV commands that could render better than the triangles and polygons defined in DAT files.
16:04 < fenn> crazy
16:10 < ybit-scanning> kanzure: don't mind at all
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16:45 < bkero> Can has wave?
16:45 < bkero> http://wave.blueheaven.ws/pygowave
16:46 < drazak> so tomorrow we kill the hamsters
16:55 < xp_prg> what is pygowave?
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17:09 < bkero> python implementation of the google wave standard
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17:15 < ybit-scanning> kanzure: what are you wanting me to do exactly after opening simple.odr?
17:15 < ybit-scanning> olr*
17:15 < kanzure> ybit-scanning: does it work?
17:16 < kanzure> ybit-scanning: the idea is to use that to export to some other format
17:16 < kanzure> "if you were a lego, you and I would go together"
17:18 < ybit-scanning> are you asking if i can convert it to a file format ldraw will recognize and open it properly?
17:18 < kanzure> no
17:18 < kanzure> ldrDat2Obj should convert DAT files to OBJ files
17:18  * ybit-scanning hasn't looked at the ldraw in-depth yet
17:18 < ybit-scanning> and it it
17:18 < ybit-scanning> it did*
17:20 < kanzure> interesting
17:20 < kanzure> well. I would ideally like OBJs of all of the DATs
17:20 < kanzure> but that might require a batch script
17:20 < ybit-scanning> http://filebin.ca/tjxzgx/simple.Obj
17:25 < xp_prg> bkero google wave is an operating system right?
17:25 < kanzure> no
17:26 < bkero> xp_prg: No
17:26 < xp_prg> what is it?
17:26 < QuantumG> its an instant-messaging-email-wiki hybrid
17:26 < bkero> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html
17:26 < xp_prg> Thanks Quantum Gravity man :>
17:37 < ybit-scanning> google?
17:37 < ybit-scanning> just a suggestion
17:37 < ybit-scanning> uhmm
17:38  * ybit-scanning needs to look at the logs.. thought someone in here suggested feynman dropped out of undergrad and went straight for his phd
17:41 < kanzure> fenn: what's going on here? http://brlcad.org/wiki/Hex have you seen this? bolts and nuts.
17:42  * ybit-scanning wonders if it's worth scanning the index..
17:42 < kanzure> so brlcad has g-vrml apparently. that's nice.. or not
17:42 < fenn> looks like a C macro for creating brlcad objects
17:42 < kanzure> that's what an asc file is?
17:44 < fenn> .asc is some kind of autodesk export format?
17:44 < fenn> not brlcad native format, whatever it is
17:45 < kanzure> nice list of gpl'd software packages for CAD/CAM: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/CAD_CAM
17:46 < kanzure> pycam?
17:46 < fenn> heekscad uses pycam
17:46 < kanzure> doesn't seem to know about emc
17:46 < kanzure> "cripple-ware" heh
17:48 < kanzure> this is an odd wiki. http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Main_Page
17:49 < fenn> the list's characterization of different software doesn't really line up with how i perceive them
17:49 < fenn> blender is not a "solid modeler" for example; not is pov-ray 3D animation
17:49 < fenn> i mean pov-ray is more of a solid modeler than blender
17:50 < fenn> dia is definitely not a drawing program
17:51 < fenn> i need to try out salome some time
17:51 < fenn> thought it was just FEA meshing but apparently there's some kind of modeler
17:51 < kanzure> oh?
17:52 < fenn> here's more http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
17:52 < fenn> getting old
17:55 < kanzure> povray is so old that it parses - in its options/args as "not"
17:55 < kanzure> i.e. you have to do +P if you mean -P
17:56 < kanzure> anyway: http://code.google.com/p/pypov/
17:57 < kanzure> it doesn't seem to be able to load files however
17:59 < fenn> Bishop3D comes with a built-in SDL parser and can import a descent subset of POV-Ray SDL code.
18:01 < fenn> bleh shareware
18:01 < kanzure> just need to use it once..
18:02 < fenn> well he probably won't give us the source
18:02 < kanzure> so what?
18:02 < kanzure> use it to get some IGES/STEP files
18:02 < fenn> uh. i doubt bishop3d exports anything useful
18:03 < kanzure> it seems to only save to "bsp" files
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18:04 < kanzure> hello aum
18:04 < aum> toy
18:05 < ybit-scanning> and i'm out 
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18:05 < aum> hi im from planet Brian. i am soudnwave and im out 2
18:05 < kanzure> there seems to be pov2mdl and pov2rib
18:19 < fenn> link?
18:24 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/pov2rib-1.0.tar.gz
18:24 < fenn> where's that from?
18:24 < kanzure> internet archive
18:25 < kanzure> http://www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~cnvogelg/pov2rib/index.html
18:25 < kanzure> pov2mdl: http://www.stmuc.com/thbaier/tools.htm
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18:29 < kanzure> pov2mdl is found at: http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/pv2mr217.zip
18:30 < fenn> i'm impressed with your hunting skills
18:31 < kanzure> it's only because you refuse to use http://web.archive.org/web/*/links
18:32 < fenn> googling pov2mdl and pov2rib didnt turn up much
18:33 < kanzure> http://tag.povray.org/povQandT/filesQandT.html#converting
18:33 < drazak> kanzure: is books/ on adl.serveftp somewhere?
18:33 < fenn> pov2rib uses antlr which is not terrible
18:33 < kanzure> drazak: books/papers/ is
18:33 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/
18:33 < drazak> nope
18:33 < kanzure> drazak: try that link.
18:33 < drazak> not really what I'm looking for, thanks though
18:34 < kanzure> drazak: would you like /books/ to be on there?
18:34 < drazak> nah
18:34 < drazak> it would be cool, doesn't have to be in /var/www though
18:34 < kanzure> pov2mdl was found on http://www.programmersheaven.com/download/1805/download.aspx
18:36 < kanzure> drazak: ok. fenn is supposed to tell me to buy a giant hard drive in a few days, and I'll be bringing that to adl.serveftp.org anyway
18:36 < kanzure> so that would be a good opportunity to do a sync
18:36 < drazak> awesome, thanks kanzure 
18:36 < drazak> do you have any human cellular anatomy?
18:36 < drazak> books
18:36 < kanzure> wine totally crashes on moraywin33.exe because it can't create an "icon group" for the "start menu" :(
18:37 < kanzure> drazak: yeah I have a lot of medical bullshit
18:37 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/
18:37  * fenn is looking at /var/www/lab/legos/pov2rib-1.0/parpov/Grammar
18:37 < drazak> kanzure: ok
18:38 < drazak> kanzure: I need to know what kinds of cells are found where in the body, mostly
18:38 < kanzure> fenn: nice find
18:38 < kanzure> drazak: wikipedia has a nice list of different strains of human cells in the human body
18:38 < kanzure> good luck finding it :/
18:39 < kanzure> fenn: libparpov was a GPL'd library for parsing povray files into some C/C++ data structs
18:39 < kanzure> fenn: unfortunately, libparpov does not seem to exist any more
18:39 < kanzure> except maybe in pov2rib-1.0/
18:39 < fenn> libparpov is par of pov2rib
18:39 < kanzure> well the way it was described made it sound like it was something separate
18:39 < fenn> how do you know it' GPL?
18:39 < kanzure> author's web page
18:39 < fenn> i can see how it would be useful for converting to various different formats (what's the point of writing one converter?)
18:40 < kanzure> GPL information: http://web.archive.org/web/20011030145209/http://www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~cnvogelg/pov2rib/index.html
18:41 < kanzure> I like the "write your own converter page"
18:41 < fenn> great
18:41 < kanzure> over here: http://web.archive.org/web/20010814234510/www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~cnvogelg/pov2rib/write.html
18:44 < drazak> kanzure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distinct_cell_types_in_the_adult_human_body
18:45 < kanzure> yes
18:45 < kanzure> lovely, isn't it
18:53 < kanzure> does anyone know what grammar language ".g" is? is that flex?
18:53 < kanzure> drazak: I'd like to point out that the reference on that page is to Freitas :)
18:53 < kanzure> go freitas!
18:54 < drazak> lol
18:55 < drazak> anyone in here know anything about VEGF?
18:56 < kanzure> context?
18:56 < drazak> it's a growth factor
18:56 < drazak> vascular endothelial growth factor
18:57 < kanzure> vegetative growth factor?
18:57 < kanzure> oh
18:57 < drazak> it comes in A-D and 121 165 189 and several other exon splices of VEGFA
18:57 < ybit> guess i will upload the books when they are't just scanned images?
18:57 < ybit> or are converted into pdf..
18:58 < kanzure> for numeric information, scanning can't be trusted
18:58 < ybit> is it okay if i upload what i have on adl.serveftp?
18:58 < kanzure> sure
19:02 < kanzure> pypov is totally useless since it can only write
19:02 < kanzure> otherwise I'd write a new writer for it
19:02 < fenn> super VEGEFA
19:03 < fenn> induces lycanthropism and possible hair color changes
19:03 < kanzure> just because you enhance your vascular endothelial cells, 
19:03 < kanzure> does not mean you look like super vegeta
19:13 < drazak> :P
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19:19 < kanzure> spirit++
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20:22 < kanzure> "
20:22 < kanzure> AP's wire stories used to be delivered using arcane satellite-to-modem-to-serial solutions that functioned pretty faithfully unless you got snow/ice on your satellite dish on the roof. "
20:32 < kanzure> antlr tutorial: http://javadude.com/articles/antlrtut/
20:33 < kanzure> ah it's old
20:33 < kanzure> http://martinfowler.com/bliki/HelloAntlr.html
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21:41 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/legos.py
22:08 < kanzure> you're better at critiquing my code in text
22:08 < fenn> fine i'll just fix it
22:18 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * rc76a7ac20862 /import_tools/occ-pyldraw.py: made some changes to occ-pyldraw
22:18 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r874a75e57510 /import_tools/ (occ-pyldraw.py occ_pyldraw.py): moved a file to something more usable
22:18 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r9c13b05ebd04 /doc/proposals/legos.py: legos from kanzure's sandbox of doom
22:18 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r9f960d61ce11 /paths.py: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://bryan@adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb
22:21 < kanzure> todo: pyldraw + pymates + legos.py + something to do with OCC for interactive visualization of lego assemblies
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23:16 < kanzure> 4316	./Robot Mechanisms And Mechanical Devices Illustrated.pdf
23:18 < kanzure> 3528	./Freshney R.I., Freshney M.G. (2002) Culture of epithelial cells.djvu
23:21 < kanzure> 4632	./Applied Nonparametric Regression.pdf
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23:29 < CIA-43> skdb: fenn * r87ecad2610a1 /doc/proposals/legos.py: generalize and allow for multiple parts and generally rewrite everything
23:29 < fenn> hmm i have a name
23:31 < fenn> so i guess after applying the mate you'd have to go through each part and see what other interfaces are either lined up (mated) or made inaccessible, and then mark them as such
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23:31 < fenn> er, only the two parts on the two interfaces
23:32 < fenn> actually no, you have to look at other parts too
23:32 < fenn> all that fun collision detection stuff
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23:33 < kanzure> wtf?
23:33 < kanzure> 3096./Experimental Realization of Interaction-Free Measurements 1994-08.pdf
23:34 < fenn> for i in options(mypeg, allbricks): try: mypeg.connect(i) except CollisionError: pass
23:34 < kanzure> since when do you have a name
23:34 < fenn> must be the laptop
23:35 < kanzure> minsky has shit config?
23:35 < fenn> and tub too i guess
23:36 < fenn> thing is, laptop has no ~/.gitconfig file at all
23:39 < kanzure> Working Memory Physical Location Bottleneck (posterior parietal cortex)
23:40 < kanzure> "When humans attempt to perform two tasks at once, execution of the first task usually leads to postponement of the second one. This task delay is thought to result from a bottleneck occurring at a central, amodal stage of information processing that precludes two response selection or decision-making operations from being concurrently executed. Using time-resolved functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), here we present a neural basis for such dual-task limitations, e.g. the inability of the posterior lateral prefrontal cortex, and possibly the superior medial frontal cortex, to process two decision-making operations at once. These results suggest that a neural network of frontal lobe areas acts as a central bottleneck of information processing that severely limits our ability to multitask."
23:41 < fenn> a neural basis ...
23:41 < fenn> for decision making?
23:41 < fenn> codenamed "mister volition" i bet
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23:49 < ybit> skdb/tb needs a roadmap
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23:51 < fenn> you mean that huge "TODO" list in the main dir?
23:52 < Phreedom> :)
23:52 < fenn> er. it moved. not located in doc/todo/TODO apparently
23:52 < fenn> s/not/now/
23:52 < any38932354> test again
23:53 < fenn> five by five
23:53 < ybit> fenn: yeah something like that :P
23:53 < ybit> hadn't seen it
23:54 < ybit> haven't looked at skdb repo really, planning on diving in soon.. working on a few things as always though.. getting there soon enough.. thanks for mentioning the todo list.. looking at it now...
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23:57 < kanzure> 924./Miniature Thermoacoustic Refrigerator.pdf