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04:19 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 4b5786a /doc/todo/TODO: more
05:11 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r bc9af8c /doc/todo/TODO: blah blah blah
07:04 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 3eb1b87 /doc/todo/TODO: moar
07:04 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 6fedeb2 / (clients/skdb-get.py core/settings.py): make skdb-get not suck so much
07:04 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 09c2455 / (geom/geom.py gui/gui.py paths.py test_transformation.py): wrap TopoDS_Shape into Shape in geom module
07:06 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal]
07:07 < kanzure> "helicopters fly by beating the air into submission."
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07:34 < katsmeow-afk>  re: contracting swine flu ,,  that would makeit sw'u ?
07:47 < kanzure> not sure that's what people are worried about
07:49 < katsmeow-afk> they are afraid it may kill as many people as normal flu?
07:50  * katsmeow-afk tries to look serious while saying sw'u
07:51 < kanzure> instead, try looking dead. this way it won't be able to infect you.
07:52 < katsmeow-afk> i'm not concerned, had too many bright red moles pop up on one side to lett he flu distract me
08:01 < kanzure> hm I get the same __eq__ error without the wrapper
08:01 < kanzure> yaml.dump(TopoDS_Shape())
08:01 < kanzure> ValueError: invalid null reference in method 'TopoDS_Shape___eq__', argument 2 of type 'TopoDS_Shape const &'
08:04 < kanzure> I think I want to live here: http://www.mpc.ameslab.gov/equipment_catagory/equipment_list/Machine_Shop.htm
08:04 < kanzure> " While the group's purpose is to meet the needs of Ames Laboratory's scientists, its services are available to anyone  who needs unique services not commercially available."
08:05 < drazak_> I'm sure they'll just set up a cot for you right in the machine shop
08:05 < drazak_> not in violation of any health or building codes
08:11 < kanzure> dream come true
08:14 < drazak_> hey man I almost had to stay the night at the lab a couple weeks ao
08:14 < drazak_> i was here until 10pm
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08:22 < drazak_> kanzure: so when reading a plasmid diagram for a viral reproduction plasmid, what is PA?
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10:12 < kanzure> drazak_: I'd have to see it.
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10:51 < genehacker> http://www.fcubic.com/
10:51 < genehacker> check this out
10:51 < genehacker> mass production of impossible stuff
10:57 < fenn> what's "mass production" about it (besides their marketing)
10:58 < genehacker> mass production
10:59 < fenn> explain
10:59 < genehacker> as in making large quantities of tiny components and selling them
10:59 < fenn> how is it not just RP
11:00 < genehacker> this is fast enough for production
11:00 < fenn> numbers plz
11:00 < genehacker> 10,000 parts per day
11:02 < fenn> actually it says 1-2k
11:02 < fenn> which isn't all that fast if you think about it
11:02 < genehacker> let me send you this power point I'm reading
11:02 < fenn> that's 43 seconds per keychain
11:03 < genehacker> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.student.tue.nl%2Fq%2Fp.r.hermans%2Finternship%2FRP%26M%2520research.ppt&ei=HvSbSsmBAYrgtgP86PiSDg&usg=AFQjCNFeDqONFKW11h1rxphA59s5bbAfkQ&sig2=JYo22DgkyIACLu2hwUKtKQ
11:03 < genehacker> they do some weird baking process and get good surface quality too
11:04 < genehacker> does that link work?
11:04 < fenn> yes, but sfw
11:04 < genehacker> check out slide 21
11:05 < genehacker> sfw?
11:06 < fenn> they don't even say how it works
11:06 < fenn> i'm guessing some kind of brazing alloy coated steel powder
11:07 < fenn> and that compressor wheel is just lame
11:07 < genehacker> say how what works?
11:08 < fenn> the 'bake off' step
11:08 < genehacker> yeah
11:08 < genehacker> voodoo I think
11:08 < fenn> seems kind of important don't you think?
11:08 < fenn> ok i'm never looking at powerpoint again
11:08 < genehacker> yeah
11:09 < fenn> invariably useless info
11:09 < genehacker> seems to me that they just bake it in an oven
11:09 < genehacker> close to the melting temperature
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11:10 < genehacker> this way  it lets it reduce surface area
11:10 < genehacker> might cause problems if you're trying to print a bearing in one go
11:12 < fenn> kanzure: i hate what you've done with class Shape
11:12 < genehacker> as the ball would reduce surface area by bonding to the rolling
11:12 < genehacker> that laser metal melting process is interesting because it actaully produces stronger parts
11:13 < fenn> stronger than what?
11:14 < genehacker> oops that wasn't in the power point
11:14 < genehacker> than the same part cast
11:16 < genehacker> material properties are better
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11:31 < fenn> geom.common_volume takes 10 seconds :\
11:31 < fenn> on two lego bricks
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11:40 < fenn> most of the time is spent in BRepAlgoAPI_Common
11:45 < fenn> so can i get rid of Part.shapes?
11:45 < fenn> it's really just annoying since there's only ever one shape
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11:55 < fenn> kanzure: what is the point of test_transformation.py?
11:56 < fenn> and why is in main directory
11:58 < kanzure> did I just add that?
11:59 < kanzure> if it's new, you can do away with it
11:59 < kanzure> had some uncommitted changes this morning
12:02 < kanzure> you can't get rid of Part.shapes until you fix everything that uses it
12:03 < fenn> what is the point of putting Shape() around everything?
12:03 < kanzure> trying to fix the __eq__ error in yaml.dump(TopoDS_Shape)
12:03 < kanzure> consequently made a wrapper thing, so yaml.dump(Shape()) should work
12:03 < kanzure> but for some reason it doesn't
12:03 < kanzure> it's a work in progress
12:04 < fenn> why change other code?
12:05 < kanzure> because if you delete the shapes list, everything else will break
12:06 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/school/ch301/2009-08-31.html
12:06 < fenn> no i'm talking about why you put Shape(.*) everywhere
12:07 < fenn> in the middle of functions that just display stuff
12:07 < fenn> you aren't dumping Display are you?
12:07 < kanzure> no
12:08 < kanzure> uhm guess I was just trying to cover all the bases
12:08 < fenn> dump_recursion is totally idiotic
12:08 < fenn> yaml already does all that
12:08 < kanzure> well yaml doesn't tell you were it fucks up
12:08 < kanzure> so you have to figure it out yourself
12:08 < kanzure> *where
12:09 < kanzure> the problem was that I wasn't sure if there were any places that were adding TopoDS_Shape or something
12:09 < ybit> yay, the owner said that during my time, the workplace is my playground :))
12:10 < ybit> i'll be designing circuit boards, fabricating them, building electric vehicles, building processors, reverse engineering processors, programming processors! i'm kind of happy right now
12:10 < ybit> start tomorrow
12:11 < ybit> MEAs anyone?
12:11 < kanzure> I doubt it
12:11 < kanzure> I've been trying to get you to do digital logic for a year now
12:11 < kanzure> and you haven't touched it
12:11 < ybit> digital logic of..?
12:11 < fenn> bah git-gui can't specify line by line changes.. what's the point?
12:11 < ybit> skdb you mean
12:12 < kanzure> digital logic design is what you do to figure out your circuits for MEAs, microprocessors, microcontrollers
12:12 < ybit> all with time
12:12 < fenn> digital logic is so 1970's
12:12 < ybit> yeah, i'm aware of what it is... but you haven't been pushing me toward that for over a year silly
12:12 < kanzure> sure I have
12:12  * kanzure is prepared to go log hunting
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12:12 < kanzure> oh fuck
12:12 < xp_prg> drazak_ you here?
12:12  * ybit insists
12:13 < fenn> unless you're doing fpga's, but i think microcontrollers are good enough for 95% of stuff
12:13 < kanzure> fenn: microcontrollers come from somewhere
12:13 < fenn> yeah yeah
12:13 < xp_prg> kanzure use an arduino
12:13 < kanzure> fuck off
12:13 < fenn> xp_prg: why do you even bother?
12:13 < xp_prg> fenn what?
12:14 < fenn> everyone hates you
12:14 < xp_prg> I learn things, that is all I care about, hate me if you will
12:14 < fenn> do you just enjoy being a pain in the ass?
12:14 < kanzure> you don't learn
12:14 < kanzure> that's the problem
12:14 < kanzure> go away
12:15 < fenn> sponge != learn
12:15 < xp_prg> I am learning a huge amount, cell designer is going to put in bio bricks because of me :>
12:15 < kanzure> no you're lying
12:15 < kanzure> he just sent you some damn xml files
12:15 < xp_prg> they are going to meet with me about it
12:15 < kanzure> who cares?
12:15 < xp_prg> you asked if I was contributing and I am, that is an example
12:15 < kanzure> no I did not ask if you were contributing
12:16 < kanzure> I asked you to fuck off
12:16 < xp_prg> I cannot comply 
12:16 < kanzure> why not?
12:16 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 64c5196 /geom/geom.py: remove mate_first
12:16 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r f75ee4e /geom/geom.py: killl
12:17 < xp_prg> its not part of my programming
12:17 < kanzure> but I need you to leave
12:17 < kanzure> you are hurting me
12:17 < kanzure> you are causing me pain
12:17 < xp_prg> what am I doing to hurt and cause you pain?
12:18 < kanzure> being a moron
12:18 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r eb07680 / (test_transformation.py unittests/test_transformation.py): move and fix bit rot
12:18 < kanzure> being you
12:18 < kanzure> this causes me pain. now go away.
12:19 < xp_prg> kanzure help me to not be  moron then I guess, not clear on how to correct this issue, I want to learn that is why I am here
12:19 < kanzure> sorry you've been here for over a year
12:19 < kanzure> time for you to go
12:20 < xp_prg> I learn here, that is all I care about, I cannot comply
12:20 < kanzure> but you hurt me
12:21 < xp_prg> put me on ignore then
12:21 < kanzure> no, just fuck off
12:21 < kanzure> and leave us all alone
12:24 < xp_prg> stop being mean to me :(
12:24 < kanzure> no
12:24 < kanzure> go away and I will stop being mean
12:28 < kanzure> fenn: skdb-get.py takes way, way too long if you have rebooted and haven't loaded skdb yet
12:29 < ybit> where's the hplc cdrom paper again...
12:31 < xp_prg> do you guys use partial differential equations, adjoint variables, to measure gene activity etc... ?
12:31 < ybit> http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Integration%20of%20microcolumns%20and%20microfluidic%20fractionators%20on%20multitasking%20centrifugal%20microfluidic%20platforms%20for%20the%20analysis%20of%20biomolecules.pdf
12:35 < kanzure> yes that's it
12:37 < strages> how many of you guys are making the hackerspaces meetup?   http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspaces_Meetup
12:45 < fenn> why does 'import math' import OCC.math?
12:46 < fenn> oh it doesn't
12:46 < fenn> math is included in some other OCC module which gets imported
12:50 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 162c96e / (4 files in 3 dirs): return list instead; clean up
12:50 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r d4b4115 / (geom/geom.py gui/gui.py unittests/test_geom.py): various minor fixes; passes tests
12:54 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 6dfd85e / (core/skdb.py geom/geom.py): rename round to prettyfloat; apparently round is a python builtin
13:03 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r b831683 /core/skdb.py: misc cleanup
13:03 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 59a832b /doc/todo/TODO: more
13:15 < fenn> hmm you didn't really test anything in gui.py
13:27 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r bd36489 / (geom/geom.py gui/gui.py paths.py): fix coordinate arrows
13:31 < kanzure> are you doing something?
13:36 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r c7760f1 /gui/gui.py: move stuff around
13:36 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 9c71971 /gui/gui.py: oops, i meant to use arrow's direction argument
13:36 < fenn> not really
13:37 < fenn> i'm procrastinating doing the n^2 coincidence detector
13:37 < fenn> to connect interfaces that happen to be together already
13:38 < fenn> sort of wondering how to pass current_brick to gui.py
13:38 < fenn> can't give arguments to add_key
13:39  * fenn mumbles something about lambda
13:40 < fenn> thinking about cheesecake frozen yogurt
13:40 < bkero> Delicious
13:41 < fenn> bkero: you can also get little cubes of cheesecake with graham crumbs around them
13:41 < bkero> Or I could eat cheesecake.
13:41 < fenn> to put on your frozen yogurt
13:41 < fenn> i suppose you could put frozen yogurt on your cheesecake, but it wouldn't really be the same
13:42 < bkero> I bet it wouldn't be too bad.
13:42 < bkero> How about cheesecake to put on my cheesecake?
13:43 < fenn> i wish kate had a "rewind to last revision" command
13:44  * bkero wishes he knew how to use vim better.
13:44 < fenn> bkero reminds me of http://fennetic.net/irc/yo_yo_dawg.jpg
13:45 < bkero> That's awful
13:48 < xp_prg> bkero ask me questions, I know vim well :>
13:48 < bkero> xp_prg: I know vim alright, I just need to get into the habit of using named buffers, and mass actions such as multi-line commenting
13:53 < fenn> vim doesn't have a multi-line comment shortcut
13:54 < fenn> i think you're supposed to do :%s/^/#/
13:54 < bkero> It does too :p
13:56 < bkero> http://hurley.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/vim-tip-comment-out-multiple-lines/
13:57 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 4d6ab96 / (geom/geom.py paths.py): paws off plz. sandbox in your own sandbox
13:58 < fenn> bkero: um, that's what i said
13:58 < ybit> strages: i'll be there
13:58 < bkero> You said to do a regular substitution
13:58 < bkero> Which is the alternative listed on the site I linked you go
13:58 < fenn> huh.
13:59 < bkero> The primary method discussed is to use a visual block and do a multi-line insert
13:59 < fenn> when i type "#" it just says "search hit TOP, continuing at BOTTOM"
14:00 < bkero> Ctrl+v, then scroll to all your lines, then hit I, type a #, press Esc, then scroll down
14:00 < fenn> oops, that was ctrl-v not just v
14:04 < kanzure> fenn: yeah I was hoping you could pass arguments to add_key too .. it's probably implemented in wx somewhere. it has to be.
14:05 < kanzure> also kate should have a last-revision command.. isn't there lots of kate-svn integration tools out there already?
14:06 < kanzure> bah vim has a multi line shortcut of sorts. use esc+shift+v then do your :%s
14:06 < kanzure> oh fooey
14:06 < kanzure> fuck you bkero :p
14:16 < kanzure> xp_prg: why the FUCK are you sending emails with the message in the GOD DAMNED subject line?
14:16 < kanzure> what's wrong with you
14:16 < kanzure> just *stop it*
14:16 < kanzure> and shut the fuck up and go do your own googling to figure out whether or not math systems exist (hint: they do)
14:19 < xp_prg> hahah
14:19 < xp_prg> kanzure you remind me of my old engineering professors
14:19 < xp_prg> filled with disgust for everyone and everything
14:20 < xp_prg> I didn't ask whether or not they existed, but which ones were easier than others
14:31 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r e0d02e8 /gui/gui.py: current_brick doesnt exist here
14:31 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 7b41875 /paths.py: first whack at not trying to connect bricks together where they already have connections. also, this needs to get integrated into options somehow or you still get interference
14:32 < xp_prg> fenn what bricks are you connecting?
14:36 < kanzure> legos
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14:53 < kanzure> hey dohnut 
14:53 < dohnut> hey
14:53 < kanzure> who be?
14:53 < dohnut> I'm just a curious person about transhumanism
14:53 < kanzure> hi there :)
14:54 < dohnut> thanks
14:54 < kanzure> so what's up?
14:54  * xp_prg eats some of dohnut
14:54 < kanzure> no eating other members!
14:54 < dohnut> haha
14:55 < dohnut> I'm fine, reading some things about future shock, or social acceleration
14:55 < kanzure> why?
14:56 < dohnut> curiosity :)
14:57 < kanzure> are you building anything?
14:57 < dohnut> I'm interested about how the practice of transhumanism can have an impact on society
14:57 < kanzure> the practice of?
14:57 < dohnut> I'm currently translating the transhumanism article on wikipedia in french
14:57 < kanzure> I'm so sorry
14:57 < kanzure> the transhumanism article is absolutely terrible
14:58 < kanzure> transhumanism is really about "you", not about "everyone except you"
14:58 < kanzure> but the wikipedia english article makes it about "everyone except you"
14:59 < kanzure> so, best of luck to you
14:59 < dohnut> hehe thanks
14:59 < dohnut> it can be reworked after translation after all
14:59 < kanzure> ah that's not how the english wikipedia works
14:59 < kanzure> usually people will prevent you from reworking an article
15:00 < dohnut> yes, but for the french one there aren't many people interested in transhumanism, so it can be easier
15:00 < kanzure> well have fun I guess
15:00 < dohnut> :)
15:00  * xp_prg eats more dohnut with some orange juice, you taste good!
15:00 < kanzure> xp_prg: go away
15:02 < dohnut> so, where is the roadmap? :P
15:02 < kanzure> dohnut: it was on a wiki, but it is deleted
15:02 < kanzure> or, not currently available
15:02 < dohnut> oh
15:02 < kanzure> also it is useless
15:02 < dohnut> too bad
15:02 < kanzure> well it just talked a lot about microelectrode arrays
15:13 < fenn> dohnut: we are supposed to be writing some software to automatically generate a roadmap, but it's taking forever and i hate half-assed solutions
15:13 < dohnut> I see
15:17 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 22fda4f /doc/ (16 files in 3 dirs): consolidated some documentation into a subfolder specifically for lists
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15:31 < genehacker> kanzure how do I convert something in units?
15:32 < kanzure> units '4mg' 'kg'
15:33 < genehacker> that doesn't convert
15:33 < genehacker> that gives me the conversion factor
15:34 < fenn> genehacker: you're a dork
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15:58 < kanzure> the declaration page sucks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_transhumanism
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16:28 < genehacker> units doesn't automatically convert the unit?
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16:32 < parolang> /notice genehacker I think the * line is the conversion, not the conversion factor.
16:32 < parolang>  
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16:40 < genehacker> facepalm
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17:04 < kanzure> has anyone played with pythonOCC 0.3 parametric sympy CAD stuff?
17:08 < fenn> no
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17:15 < kanzure> http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/profile/index.htm
17:15 < kanzure> men: 45%
17:15 < kanzure> women: 55%
17:15 < kanzure> white: 52%
17:16 < kanzure> unknown: 0.1%
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17:16 < kanzure> unknown ethnicity :)
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17:23 < kanzure> genehacker: so why are there so many beautiful women at UT?
17:24 < bkero> More women than men?
17:24  * bkero must visit.
17:24 < bkero> I like them odds.
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17:26 < genehacker> I don't know 
17:26 < genehacker> why do you ask kanzure
17:26 < genehacker> but there was a study done on it a while back if I recall
17:26 < genehacker> I might need to dig it up
17:27 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 765793c / (6 files in 4 dirs): thirdparty folder, sorted various files
17:27 < kanzure> genehacker: it's just kind of startling to see so many of them
17:27 < kanzure> there was a study on UT women in particular?
17:27 < genehacker> no
17:28 < genehacker> some magazine did some study(bs likely)
17:28 < fenn> heh was it Maxim?
17:28 < genehacker> that showed that UT was number 1 in the country for beautiful girls are something
17:28 < genehacker> wait a second how'd we get on this topic anyway?
17:29 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 2d5adfb / (4 files in 3 dirs): move some more stuff around
17:30 < kanzure> well we're guys so I imagine this is always the topic
17:30 < genehacker> ok
17:30 < genehacker> so how about them cowboys
17:30 < genehacker> oh wait 
17:30 < ybit> cheerleaders, nice
17:30 < genehacker> I think it's not football season
17:31 < genehacker> is it?
17:31 < ybit> who cares, football cheerleaders are always in-season
17:31 < ybit> *grunt*
17:31 < ybit> *scratches*
17:32 < ybit> *belch*
17:32 < ybit> and i'm through being a man, where's a lesbian so that i can ensure she stays that way?
17:33 < kanzure> lesbians are not necessarily bi
17:33 < kanzure> you want the bi ones
17:33 < ybit> or the ones who aren't so sure or just want a one-off experimentation
17:33 < fenn> i think you missed the back-story
17:34 < kanzure> stargate has a back-story?
17:34 < fenn> the ybit story
17:34 < ybit> wow, i remember watching that on a scrambled channel during the sex scene and thought it was yet another porn movie then i realized it was pretty cool sci-fi movie that i didn't have access to :)
17:34 < genehacker> I remember hearing it
17:36 < ybit> oh wait.. i was thinking of stormship troopers
17:37 < ybit> stormship troopers sucks ftr
17:39 < ybit> damn compile probs
17:39 < ybit> hmm..
17:41 < fenn> starship troopers.. no connection to the book
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17:43 < ybit> which is better?
17:45 < kanzure> ok fixed /var/www/skdb/ with AddType text/plain .py to the .htaccess
17:45 < kanzure> you can now read the files: http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/core/part.py
17:49 < kanzure> self.__repr__ = Shape.__repr__(self)
17:49 < ybit> have you checked with occ forums or mailing list or whatever it is that the occ community uses to see if the code is already implemented in occ?
17:49 < kanzure> what code?
17:49 < ybit>     '''used for part mating. argh I hope OCC doesn't already implement this and I just don't know it.
17:50 < kanzure> yeah I checked
17:56 < kanzure> huh
17:57 < kanzure> meowth346 was "one of the most foremost experts on game mechanics in pokemon since 1996"
17:57  * kanzure knew meowth346
17:57 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20050326021838/http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/
17:58 < kanzure> for instance: http://web.archive.org/web/20050412205512/pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gb/stats/
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17:59 < kanzure> more madness: http://web.archive.org/web/20050310024200/pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gb/moves/
18:00 < kanzure> not sure how he got those stats
18:00 < kanzure> 99.6 -> did he really try it 996 times?
18:00 < genehacker2> maybe he didn't
18:00 < genehacker2> but a program did
18:00 < genehacker2> or at least I hope
18:01 < genehacker2> have you ever played around with homebrew?
18:02 < kanzure> yes
18:02 < kanzure> I used to write gbc games
18:02 < genehacker2> any good ones?
18:02 < kanzure> no
18:02 < kanzure> just stuff I was playing around with
18:02 < bkero> h0m3br00z
18:02 < kanzure> homebooz?
18:04 < ybit> homebrew
18:05 < drazak_> ergh
18:05 < drazak_> I'm at the lab really late tonight
18:05 < ybit> oh come on, it's not so bad
18:05 < ybit> at least you have irc access
18:06 < drazak_> nah it's not bad
18:06 < drazak_> I did 30 tubes of pcr
18:06 < ybit> fenn, kanzure: you guys using python 2.* or 3?
18:06 < drazak_> and I'm running two gels for them
18:07 < drazak_> I also made cDNA from RNA I isolated today
18:07 < kanzure> who was it that was asking about the "roadmap"?
18:07 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20080208131630/heybryan.org/transhuman/roadmap.html
18:07 < kanzure> ybit: 2.5 for me. fenn uses 2.6
18:07 < ybit> i think it may have been me
18:07 < xp_prg> drazak_ want to see the progress I made on the problem you gave me?
18:07 < kanzure> ybit: no, there was some french person
18:09 < drazak_> xp_prg: email it, dark.drazak@gmail.com
18:09 < drazak_> or link it or whatever
18:09 < kanzure> lame email address
18:09 < drazak_> I think I have 20x western washing solution on me
18:09 < fenn> python 3 is "not ready for prime time" perpetually
18:09 < drazak_> kanzure: drazak@gmail wasn't availible
18:09 < kanzure> what's wrong with just drazak@gmail
18:09 < kanzure> bah
18:11 < xp_prg> http://code.google.com/p/pysynthbio/source/browse/trunk/problem1/solution.py
18:11 < xp_prg> here it is drazak_
18:11 < xp_prg> haven't found a way for hairpins yet
18:11 < xp_prg> to check for hairpins
18:13 < xp_prg> any hints on that?
18:14 < genehacker2> look up what a hairpin is
18:15 < xp_prg> I know what it is, it has a specific strucker with hydrophobic molecules usually associated with cell receptors
18:15 < xp_prg> strucker = structure
18:16 < xp_prg> it has a hairpin shape as well
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18:19 < xp_prg> drazak_ what do you think?
18:34 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 030061a / (geom/geom.py paths.py): weird results when saving a TopoDS_Shape
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19:03 < drazak_> xp_prg: well uhm I think primer3 can do it
19:03 < drazak_> you'll have to look at the literature for primer3
19:03 < xp_prg> ok
19:04 < xp_prg> thanks again for giving me this problem
19:04 < drazak_> I don't know the program all that well, other than it's ability to generate primers rather well
19:05 < kanzure> add(some_part)
19:05 < kanzure> Assembly.add(some_part)
19:06 < kanzure> maybe I'll map Connection objects to edges
19:15 < drazak_> xp_prg: you could put it through the rna secondary structure predicter in emboss
19:17 < drazak_> xp_prg: you could also use the -maxalign and -maxendstability
19:54 < kanzure> http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/07/20/rsif.2009.0193
20:15 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 2ed75fb /core/part.py: Assembly class. fire away!
20:15 < fenn> pew pew
20:31 < ybit> ybit@gmail isn't available from what i recall
20:31 < ybit> you have to have atleast 4 chars
20:42 < ybit> http://www.opencollector.org/ :: Open Collector carries listings and news for free EDA software and circuit designs. Open Collector supports gEDA.
20:42 < kanzure> ybit: not new
20:43 < ybit> http://opencollector.org/Backend/oc-db.rss
20:43 < ybit> is to me
20:43 < ybit> looks like it eventually gave into opencores
20:43 < kanzure> opencores does only cores though
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20:47 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/rss/ added
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21:05 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r dbb0401 /doc/todo/todo: because caps suck
21:17 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 8090ba4 /doc/ (6 files in 2 dirs): fix todo stuff
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21:59 < ybit> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrel.gov%2Fdocs%2Ffy08osti%2F42547.pdf&ei=lY2cStXEO6mwtgeInMWyBA&usg=AFQjCNF1bhM7tiWD_enSJ9QtiHY4oyYobg&sig2=es4UEaFEbFFdcaYwEmK8Xw :: having problems with my pdf viewers atm, but i believe that's the 40.8% solar efficiency paper
21:59 < ybit> inverted metamorphic triple-junction solar cells
22:14 < genehacker2> problems with pdf viewer?
22:14 < genehacker2> had trouble with mine
22:14 < genehacker2> is this in your browser?
22:14 < genehacker2> if not
22:14 < genehacker2> try unistalling the pdf viewer and reinstalling
22:18 < ybit> no no. it's a library problem
22:18 < ybit> dependency issues after i unmerged quite a few programs
22:18 < ybit> revdep-rebuild is the answer though, so i'm waiting on that to finish
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