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09:45 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal]
10:26 < kanzure_> fenn: ok i think i can get us $10k
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10:54 < fenn> that's a good start :P
10:55 < fenn> if it's real
10:55 < fenn> sorry if i'm not willing to get my hopes up immediately
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11:47 < kanzure_> well it's todd this time
11:53 < ybit> todd huffman?
11:53 < ybit> todd davies?
11:58 < kanzure_> todd huffman
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12:23 < genehacker2> http://www.xprize.org/future-x-prizes/tuberculosis-diagnostics
12:24 < genehacker2> 1.make PCR machine
12:24 < genehacker2> 2.make PCR machine capable of detecting TB
12:24 < genehacker2> 3.????
12:24 < genehacker2> 4.PROFIT!!
12:39 < drazak> uh huh
12:40 < drazak> doesn't exactly work that way
12:40 < drazak> but sure
12:41 < genehacker2> ok
12:42 < drazak> I'd do it with antibodies
12:42 < genehacker2> are they cheaper?
12:44 < drazak> pcr isn't exactly cheap
12:45 < drazak> you could do pulsed field electrophoresis (maybe) to seperate the bacterial genome from the hosts's genome
12:46 < drazak> then cut it out of the gel and pcr it
12:46 < drazak> maybe
12:50 < genehacker2> ok can you do that in a third world country with little knowledge of the process?
12:51 < genehacker2> IE could a liberal arts student do it
12:52 < drazak> with a well written protocol and a little practice anyone can do anything
12:52 < drazak> they might need some practice pipetting
12:52 < drazak> and crap like that
12:52 < drazak> but sure
12:53 < genehacker2> is it cheap?
12:53 < genehacker2> like cheaper than $5
12:54 < drazak> well it's kinda like
12:54 < drazak> run a gel, cut it, do pcr, run a gel, bingo or bingno
12:54 < drazak> the first gel with be a 1% agarose gel
12:56 < drazak> other than equipment it's like 4 bucks a test
12:57 < genehacker2> other than equipment
13:14 < genehacker2> so what other processes are there?
13:15 < drazak> well the first gel is pulsed field
13:20 < genehacker2> if it involves training then it's probably not what they're looking for
13:23 < genehacker2> seems like a job for lab on chip if you ask me
13:23 < genehacker2> though I might be biased
13:24 < genehacker2> but are antibodies expensive?
13:28 < drazak> this method doesn't use antibodies
13:28 < drazak> and yes, they are
13:29 < genehacker2> ok then MIPs could be an option
13:31 < genehacker2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_imprinted_polymer
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22:22 < wrldpc2> http://thatwillbuffout.com/
22:29 < fenn> another exciting day on the internet
22:37 < kanzure_> you make it sound so easy
22:37 < wrldpc2> i <3 teh internets tho
22:37 < kanzure_> the internets hate you
22:37 < kanzure_> go away
22:37 < wrldpc2> ror
22:37 < wrldpc2> k
22:41 < kanzure_> meetlog: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/meetlog.txt
22:42 < kanzure_> don't judge me
22:44 < kanzure_> oh i also met aaron diaz
22:49 < fenn> that's an interesting concept.. not what i expected at all
22:50 < fenn> you should also include 'context'
22:51 < fenn> keep in mind it's biased to formal "meetings" whatever that means
22:52 < kanzure_> i sometimes include random passings
22:52 < kanzure_> i just don't include all the times i'm hanging out with you because it will become incredibly redundant
22:52 < kanzure_> also because i will realize how lame i really am
22:53 < fenn> one of the prime factors in determining how information will be structured is how you will use that information
22:54 < kanzure_> so far i've used it to draw a graph of my rate of meeting unique/new individuals
22:54 < kanzure_> what's interesting though is that it will probably be biased anyway
22:54 < kanzure_> since when i meet new people i am more likely to want to write them down
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22:54 < fenn> yes but you can get a sense of absolute value
22:54 < kanzure_> although maybe my ability to remember "old" names offsets that when i write down a large group of people that i hung out with at once that weren't new people
22:54 < fenn> how many new people now vs past, not new vs not-new
22:55 < kanzure_> ah
22:55 < fenn> i can never remember if it's called derivative or differential
22:56 < fenn> writing down names may help you remember them
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