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00:00 < katsmeow> i am not seeing it as better than a poured form, unless you can't do forms
00:01 < ybit> katsmeow: poured form?
00:01 < katsmeow> make form, pour concrete intoit
00:01 < katsmeow> it's intoitively stronger
00:02 < katsmeow> ;-)
00:02 < ybit> ah, we have a witty one our hands
00:03 < katsmeow> :-)
00:03  * ybit is reminded of eddie izzard's "ah yes, i can be a funny man, see"
00:03 < ybit> ..one of his god monologues
00:04 < ybit> wow, i'm going to hate myself for staying up too late, gn Noahj, katsmeow 
00:04 < katsmeow> just remember, you are building underground, figure 200lbs/cuft of dirt load, and for every bit of concrete youleave out, or don't have in contact with the next concrete, you have weakness
00:04 < katsmeow> k, gnite
00:09 < katsmeow> i wonder if i can make a cheap low tolerance roller bearing for a 20 deg oscillating load, using drill rod, and sealed simply by gooing it with plain silicone sealant
00:12 < katsmeow> because basically, i suspect no matter what, i'll be replacing them often, and if they are 10x cheaper and i replace 2x as often, i am ahead
00:24 < katsmeow> idiot bearing site: they organise the bearings by OD, and list the ID as radius
00:24 < katsmeow> what size shaft? oh, .25 radius
00:24 < katsmeow> sheet
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01:41 < bkero> BTW I got my bearings out :)
01:41 < bkero> Extraordinarily easy when you have the proper tools
01:41 < any73000628> so they are replaceable?
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01:42 < bkero> Oh my yes
01:42 < bkero> There's just a dust cover, and beneath that there's a small retainer with 6 bearings.  My retainer was smashed.
01:43 < any73000628> 6 bearings?!
01:43 < bkero> I just greased it up, added some floating bearings, and it's good again.
01:43 < bkero> Sorry, 7 on one side.  9 without the retainer
01:43 < any73000628> most just have one bearingon each side
01:43 < bkero> I meant 6 balls
01:43 < bkero> 7 balls
01:43 < any73000628> oh
01:43 < any73000628> that's about right
01:44 < any73000628> so, you now have a good-as-new rear axle for cheap :-)
01:45 < bkero> Well, no
01:45 < bkero> The outer races of the bearing IS the wheel
01:45 < bkero> and that had terrible pitting
01:45 < bkero> So I had to get a new wheel.  WHich came with new axle, bearings, etc
01:45 < bkero> and was $29
01:46 < any73000628> sonds right
01:46 < any73000628> i bought new front wheels, tires included, for ~$60
01:47 < any73000628> it was actually a bad deal for me, but i needed the rims and spokes, tire and tube, that as all
01:50  * any73000628 waves gnites
01:53 < bkero> Nice
01:53 < bkero> Wheels include rim, spokes, and axle.  Mine also included a quickrelease mechanism.
01:55 < bkero> Had to get a crappy new tire
01:56 < genehacker> flex bearings
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04:41 < genehacker> Cathal Garvey does Reprap and diybio
04:42 < genehacker> http://letters.cunningprojects.com/
04:46 < genehacker> http://twitter.com/onetruecathal
05:35 < kanzure_> ybit: carissa just spontaneously started to memorizze the digits of pi (i think she's up to 200 now) and doing web development stuff. i didn't encourage it. i tried to encourage andrew to do stuff at a young age, but now he's just a business-only psychopath with no interest in anything except screwing people over.
05:37 < kanzure_> ed boyden says: > The issue is: right now it's a lot of high-voltage debugging in
05:37 < kanzure_> > person, for better or worse, and also a bit of microcontroller
05:37 < kanzure_> > programming (but highly driven by the need for high-voltage
05:37 < kanzure_> > debugging).  (Or would you want to come out for a few months,
05:37 < kanzure_> > potentially??)
05:42 < kanzure_> fenn: you should know him for http://forums.koalawallop.com/viewtopic.php?p=50341&sid=7dec9d4bdff43624f326cf1e87346ad4#p50341
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05:48 < kanzure_> Noahj: i met ed boyden. didn't know he had a lisp.
05:49 < Noahj> Hm, I don't remember that
05:53 < genehacker> mind farming kanzure?
05:54 < kanzure_> what?
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06:08 < fenn> webcomic characters twittering to other webcomic characters.. it's too much
06:15 < genehacker2> uh oh
06:16 < fenn> heh "How long should you wait after poking someone on Facebook to delete your account if they don't say anything back?"
06:17  * fenn wonders if anyone else thinks that's funny
06:17 < genehacker2> http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all?content=10.1080/07328319708006236
06:17 < genehacker2> whoever finds a pdf of this paper wins a prize
06:18 < genehacker2> the answer to your question fenn is a day, which is equivalent to 2 weeks in internet time
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06:25 < fenn> prosthesis anchor technology.. apparently this is new? http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0607/06070401
06:26 < genehacker2> it's harder than it looks
06:27 < genehacker2> think about a balloon
06:27 < genehacker2> a tied off balloon
06:28 < genehacker2> you want to a pipe into the side of the balloon
06:28 < genehacker2> this pipe also has to transfer forces to the balloon
06:28 < genehacker2> don't pop the balloon
06:29 < genehacker2> this research is a big deal really
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10:34 < kanzure_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texhnolyze never heard of this
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13:33 < genehacker> kanzure what's the name of that .net thing for linux?
13:33 < genehacker> mono right?
13:34 < genehacker> can't install mono
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14:53 < kanzure_> i wonder if the FBI has anything on me? http://foia.fbi.gov/foia_request.htm
15:02 < kanzure_> oh or maybe this: http://foia.fbi.gov/waiver.htm
15:03 < kanzure_> http://www.foia.cia.gov/sample_privacy_request_letter.asp
15:09 < kanzure_> fenn: i'm trying to think of a way to use gnuplot to make up the graphs that todd wants from me
15:10 < kanzure_> any hints? i was thinking of splotting cost per kit versus number of kits versus total funding, or something
15:10 < kanzure_> really the function should be more complex than this
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15:53 < katsmeow-afk> they have data on everyone, 20 megabytes on each human on earth at *one* datacenter, as of 2005, by my estimates
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16:00 < katsmeow-afk> picture a warehouse, 3ft elevated floor, filled with racks of backplanes with racks of transmetas on them, so much ram the harrdrives are all merely backup, and a row diesels for power, and a row of diesels for a/c, rows as long as the building is
16:02 < katsmeow-afk> i am sure they have extended the building by now, and prolly changed out the hardware since it was a DOE project back then
16:03 < katsmeow-afk> it had it's own trunk str8 to a local power plant
16:04 < katsmeow-afk> they found the diesels used so much fuel that it was optional to install a small nuke power plant for long term power, trucking in fuel would have been cost-prohibitive,, i was thinking "pipeline?"
16:04 < drazak> why the fuck does fleanode have a server in luxembourgh anyway
16:05 < katsmeow-afk> i had pics somewhere, hopefully on a drive that's still working
16:05 < katsmeow-afk> i tossed out a terabyte of dead drives yesterday
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16:05 < katsmeow-afk> a 160, 2 300's, and a  250
16:05 < katsmeow-afk> got a dead 80 lastn ite
16:06 < katsmeow-afk> for luxembourghers?
16:06 < katsmeow-afk> 32 servers is a lot, i spose they haveto spread the load
16:08 < katsmeow-afk> umm, now i am assuming you didn't mean freenode
16:09 < drazak> uhm, yes
16:09 < drazak> (18:44:21) [freenode] -christel(i=christel@freenode/staff/exherbo.christel)- [Global Notice] Hi all, we appear to be having some routing issues with our server in Luxembourgh, I'm going to jupe it for  now to prevent the constant bouncing. Affected users around 2300! Apologies for the inconvenience.
16:09 < katsmeow-afk> i don't see one in luxembourgh
16:09 < katsmeow-afk> heh, maybe that's why
16:09 < drazak> because they just huped it
16:09 < drazak> dur
16:10 < drazak> juped it that is
16:10 < katsmeow-afk> i saw Dusseldorf and Frankfurt
16:11 < drazak> things went down hill after lilo died
16:12  * katsmeow-afk makes a note to tell her brain that the germans do not still occupy luxembourgh
16:40 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r d0424e4 /geom/geom.py: working on a way to click on individual interfaces in the visualization front
16:40 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 60db287 /doc/lists/adesign-library.yaml: more data from adesign
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19:28 < kanzure> blargh
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20:02 < ybit> kanzure: what are you blarghing over?
20:03 < ybit> odd, my clocks are all funny, irssi says 20:04, xmobar is showing 19:55
20:04 < ybit> and here's the kicker: it's 20:05
20:04 < ybit> or was
20:08 < ybit> cp -Rv makes my bosses happy. so note to anyone who has to deal with those who are slightly oblivious to the inner workings of nix, always use the visual flag so they think you are doing a god-awful amount of work while you read up on your favorite man page or something
20:10 < kanzure> just playing around with gnuplot to make the number-people happy
20:18 < kanzure> "At least 17 startup and existing companies are in the sequencing
20:18 < kanzure> race, pursuing a range of third-generation technologies. Sequencing"
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21:13 < bkero> Announced my sr design project
21:13 < bkero> I get to make a job manager for a whole-genome sequence analysis cluster
21:14 < bkero> Easy stuff
21:20 < kanzure> what does a "job manager" do that a kernel does not?
21:28 < katsmeow-afk> task switching and gui overlays?
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21:47 -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: http//adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb - the guts and volts of manufacturing
21:48 < katsmeow-afk> heh
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22:30 < kanzure> ok, name for a company built around skdb? not "tangible bit"
22:31 < Noahj> Stuffmeister, LLC?
22:38 < genehacker> Stuffbox
22:38 < genehacker> anyway have you figured out how to make it profitable?
22:38 < Noahj> Maybe MaterialMeister
22:38 < kanzure> sudiy?
22:39 < fenn> barf
22:39 < kanzure> is that a suggestion
22:39 < fenn> barfdiy
22:39 < genehacker> materialist!
22:40 < kanzure> thanks for your valued contribution
22:40 < fenn> bay-area rapid protofype friendly diy!
22:40 < kanzure> rapid protohype
22:40 < fenn> that's what i meant, yeah.
22:41 < genehacker> Apthorp
22:46 < fenn> does anyone have any fm-2030 books?
22:46 < kanzure> tangobits ?
22:46 < genehacker> sounds good
22:46 < fenn> smari will kill you
22:47 < genehacker> do you have something to sell or have you made a VC say wow! ?
22:47 < kanzure> why do you care
22:47 < kanzure> fenn: yes
22:48 < genehacker> I want to be a developer for skdb or whatever it is if it works
22:48 < genehacker> I just want to build stuff
22:49 < kanzure> it already works
22:49 < kanzure> just do it.
22:50 < genehacker> and make money doing that if possible
22:50 < kanzure> aha
22:50 < kanzure> tangokits
22:50 < fenn> tangible kits
22:50 < kanzure> is that better or worse?
22:50 < genehacker> damn that's not taken
22:50 < genehacker> surprising
22:51 < fenn> tango is a latin dance
22:51 < genehacker> tangikits
22:51 < kanzure> yes but would smari kill me for "tangible kits" ?
22:51 < fenn> yes
22:51 < genehacker> Ferre- latin for to form or make
22:52 < kanzure> no thanks
22:53 < kanzure> how about "deployables" ?
22:53 < kanzure> or just "ployables"?
22:54 < ybit> lab for atoms and bits, aka L.A.B.
22:54 < ybit> lab.org is taken though, imagine that
22:54 < ybit> are you going llc, npo, what?
22:54 < kanzure> this is the name for a business
22:54 < genehacker> ployables sounds like some weird scheme
22:54 < kanzure> so, not an npo
22:56 < ybit> kanzure: are you trying to get someone to fund you, or you already have the funding? why business and not npo?
22:56 < kanzure> i sort of already have the funding but need a business front
22:57 < kanzure> if this was 1997, i'd say "ekitment"
22:58 < kanzure> kitget.org?
22:58 < fenn> .com
22:58 < kanzure> not available
22:58 < fenn> huh
22:59 < kanzure> bitget.com is registered to 1307 Kinney Ave. #132, Austin, Texas 78704 (that's just down the street)
23:00 < kanzure> ok maybe kitgets
23:00 < genehacker> stuff-net, your source for IRL items on the internet
23:00 < fenn> twobitget.com
23:00 < kanzure> kitgets sounds better anyway
23:00 < ybit> ybitftw.com
23:00 < genehacker> synergy!
23:01 < fenn> exergy!
23:01 < kanzure> generic philosophical comment!
23:01 < ybit> rawr
23:01 < genehacker> random wordlike character set!
23:02  * ybit does the ben frankline asshole thing and finds some kid to fly a kite in this storm for experimental purposes
23:03 < genehacker> today that function is performed with lasers
23:03 < kanzure> kitlix?
23:04 < ybit> holy crap, srsly sounds like there's an alien warship blasting ships from the sky
23:04 < ybit> http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6eff3fba0d/drunk-history-vol-2-featuring-jack-black-from-drunk-history-jack-black-derekwaters-and-jeremykonner
23:04 < kanzure> a lot of .org addresses are available where the .com address is not
23:04 < genehacker> PEW PEW
23:06 < genehacker> Matter Compiler Inc.
23:06 < kanzure> name must be uniquely googleable
23:06 < kanzure> stop trying
23:06 < genehacker> ok
23:07 < genehacker> so you're going to get that domain name?
23:07 < kanzure> which one?
23:08 < genehacker> the one that is local
23:08 < kanzure> no
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23:56 < wrldpc2> Materializer
23:57 < wrldpc2> Socknodaba
23:58 < genehacker> kanzure do you want the inventory to a semiconductor fabrication lab?
23:58 < wrldpc2> Data Matter
23:58 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3ASocknodaba
23:58 < katsmeow-afk> i bet someone it old to go find that tomorrow morning
23:59 < wrldpc2> Datamat
23:59 < wrldpc2> nvm