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12:18 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/genebay-test.html
12:18 < kanzure> morning world
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13:23 < kanzure> blah you're all slackers anyway
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16:28 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r d0a472f /thirdparty/graphsynth.py: to_gxml for Node and Arc
16:28 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r b5120da /import_tools/del_repo/repo-recover.py: minor fixes to repo-recover
16:28 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r cc75d7a /import_tools/del_repo/repo-recover.py: changed the directory to componentbasis
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16:46 < CIA-43> skdb: kanzure * r 020a88c /import_tools/del_repo/repo-recover.py: import copy
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17:09 < ybit> kanzure: did you call jennifer|ashlee today?
17:10 < kanzure> no
17:10 < kanzure> oh shit
17:10 < kanzure> let me leave a message
17:11 < kanzure> ok maybe not. need to hop a bus
17:14 < ybit> :-\
17:14 < ybit> i have another company that may be interested
17:14 < ybit> all we really need is about 10 of them and we'll get the rest no problem
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17:32 < ybit> kanzure: you know it's only 3:30, you can still call. i would but i left my cell at work :\
17:51 < genehacker> which company are you calling?
17:52 < ybit> biobasic
17:56 < genehacker> oh it's too late now I guess
17:57 < genehacker> or is it?
18:06 < ybit> it's never too late when you got the magic stuff...
18:06 < ybit> a voice mail was left, so it's okay
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18:08 < ybit> genehacker: you have ubuntu, si?
18:10 < ybit> i think this .deb is going to be finished before i get my notebook (which is hopefully no later than another week), maybe you can test it out 
18:12 < genehacker> sure
18:12 < genehacker> how big is it?
18:12 < genehacker> what does it do?
18:13 < ybit> not sure how big the .deb will be but you are looking at installing about 1.5gb of files
18:14 < ybit> the pythonocc .deb is pythonocc, skdb is pythonocc+what fenn and bryan have written
18:16 < genehacker> ok might as well
18:16 < genehacker> a bit busy right now though
18:18 < genehacker> hah creationists are going to be handing out free origins of the species books(with an introduction that says darwin is bad or something) on my campus on thursday apparently
18:19 < genehacker> anyway PM what I need to install
18:21 < ybit> genehacker: nothing right now, i'll link you to the .deb when i get the blasted thing finished
18:22 < ybit> i mean wtf: "Unable to find 822-date program!"
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18:26 < ybit> it's just bad programming from the script i'm running
18:38 < kanzure> i left them a message
18:42 < genehacker> company count so far?
18:43 < genehacker> is this part of 3 day startup or something else?
18:43 < genehacker> nevermind
18:45 < genehacker> so what exactly are you getting the companies to agree to?
18:50 < kanzure> to use the site
18:50  * kanzure looks over http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/StaticContent again
18:50 < ybit> really? i thought we were enslaving their secretaries :(
18:51 < ybit> maybe that is inappropriate considering enslavement still happens :\
18:52 < ybit> kanzure: what are you have problems with?
18:52 < kanzure> no problems, just reading
18:53 < kanzure> using apache+cherrypy isn't multi-developer friendly
18:53 < kanzure> i mean, half the time it seems like there are caching issues
18:53 < kanzure> and the other half the time, you have to go digging through weird error logs to figure out what caused a 404 or 500
18:54 < kanzure> also i'm trying to figure out how to make sure the server is thread safe
18:54 < kanzure> i.e. shared global variables between all threads
18:56 < [ym]uptown> what's cherrypy?
18:57 < [ym]uptown> what's thread safe :)
18:57 < kanzure> cherrypy is a miniature python server i'm using for my websites
18:57 < kanzure> http://cherrypy.org/
18:57 < kanzure> essentially i drop in a few classes from projects i have already written
18:57 < kanzure> and it's magically turned into a website
18:58 < kanzure> thread safety is where you might be running multiple copies of the same program (except individual subsets of the program (threads)) and you don't want them to do things at the same time that cause them to complain to each other
18:58 < kanzure> or to complain about each other or various side-effects that they might cause
18:58 < [ym]uptown> ah
18:58 < kanzure> for instance if two threads are reading/writing the same file at the same time, there can be big problems
18:58 < [ym]uptown> why not just go with php?
18:59 < kanzure> because i'm not lame?
18:59 < [ym]uptown> lol
18:59 < [ym]uptown> i don't get why people have a bad perception on php
18:59 < kanzure> well because i used php for about four years
18:59 < kanzure> i wrote over 15,000 lines of php for websites
18:59 < kanzure> i'm sorry but i'm just not interested in writing any more of it
18:59 < kanzure> now please go away
19:00 < [ym]uptown> wow
19:01 < kanzure> next you're going to tell me to use mysql right?
19:01 < kanzure> and then import_request_variables or something
19:01 < [ym]uptown> i wasn't telling you to do anything
19:01 < kanzure> no i'm just guessing
19:01 < kanzure> i know
19:01 < [ym]uptown> people just ask question out of curosity
19:02 < kanzure> but a lot of php programmers do the same things in the same exact way for every single problem
19:02 < [ym]uptown> never heard of cherypy and wanted to find out why
19:02 < kanzure> oh well i linked you
19:02 < [ym]uptown> it's hard to get a good idea of why you are using cherrypy over php by glancing at a website.
19:03 < [ym]uptown> and even now, all i know is you just don't like php
19:03 < [ym]uptown> you haven't explained the benefits of cherrypy
19:03 < kanzure> i'm mainly familiar with using php via mod_php
19:03 < kanzure> and frankly that's not really appropriate these days for large scale websites
19:03 < [ym]uptown> true
19:03 < kanzure> there's no reason the entire application should be reloaded on each page request
19:04 < kanzure> for skdb, the entire code base is written in python
19:04 < kanzure> so making a website for it with cherrypy was really really easy
19:04 < [ym]uptown> ic
19:04 < kanzure> just import skdb,and then use the modules as-is
19:05 < [ym]uptown> there we go :)
19:05 < [ym]uptown> now i understadn
19:06 < genehacker> what are you working on at the moment?
19:07 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/genebay-test.html
19:07 < genehacker> cool
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22:12 < kanzure> http://www.last.fm/user/kanzure scrobbling up my huge list..
22:18 < kanzure> why is last.fm always so slooow?
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22:45 < kanzure> hey Uptownhr 
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22:56 < Uptownhr> sup
23:02 < ybit> what did we determine was the cause of /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lShHealOper
23:03 < ybit> http://pastebin.com/m49dadbc0
23:06 < Uptownhr> is this a question for me?
23:08 < ybit> Uptownhr: if you want to take a stab at it, sure
23:09 < kanzure> are you sure you installed all of the dependencies?
23:19 < kanzure> http://mvschandra.wordpress.com/ this guy is writing some grants to make an open source hardware-based clean room
23:26 < ybit> yes, i've installed all of the dependencies
23:31  * ybit doesn't see the point in creating an skdb egg
23:39 < ybit> i can see the importance for windows users though
23:40 < ybit> katsmeow-afk: i have a job for you :)
23:41 < ybit> kanzure, fenn: for inventory management, do you want the user to input from the cli through an interactive prompt or through web.py?
23:41 < ybit> all it will do is generate an inventory.yaml
23:43 < ybit> unless you two are thinking of something more than that?
23:44 < kanzure> let's assume they give you a file
23:44 < kanzure> with one entry per line
23:46 < ybit> we can do that
23:47 < kanzure> can anyone find this?
23:47 < kanzure> "  a banana jack that has a compatible strain relief boot
23:47 < kanzure> such as this: http://ww2.jhu.edu/JLAB/IMG/jpg/Owl_Separation_Systems_B2_Gel_Electrophoresis_Box.jpg "
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23:51 < kanzure> hey danielcc 
23:51 < kanzure> just so everyone knows, danielcc wants to do open source hardware for semiconductor fabrication
23:54 < danielcc> Is anyone else here interested in such projects?
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23:55 < kanzure> give them a few moments to respond