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11:21 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@24.227.244.7] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:23 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:31 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:36 -!- ybit [i=ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit ["leaving"] 11:36 -!- Freyburg [n=warrenfr@64-46-24-60.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [] 11:37 -!- ybit [i=ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- ybit2 [i=440f56a3@gateway/web/freenode/x-urflluvzdgmjbnao] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:03 < ybit2> oi jasonwohlfahrt 12:14 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:21 -!- ybit2 [i=440f56a3@gateway/web/freenode/x-urflluvzdgmjbnao] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 12:35 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:11 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:19 -!- egradman2 is now known as egradman 13:42 -!- egradman [n=egradman@cpe-76-173-189-7.socal.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 13:46 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-86-186.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:05 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-86-186.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:09 * fenn extends a feeler 14:14 -!- drazak [n=drazak@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:43 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-89-236.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:43 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-33, chizu, zvader, QuantumG 14:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: chizu, zvader, QuantumG, CIA-33 14:57 -!- majma [n=nihilus@c-76-125-146-206.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:58 < fenn> welp off to stanford i guess. any ideas for cool places to visit in SF proper? 15:02 < fenn> narf 15:10 < xp_prg> fenn I live right by stanfrod 15:10 < xp_prg> want to hang out with me? 15:10 < xp_prg> I could show you around Palo Alto if you want :> 15:35 < QuantumG> I used to "live" around there 15:36 < QuantumG> when I worked for VMWare. 15:36 < QuantumG> right next to Stanford. 15:45 < xp_prg> cool QuantumG, want to help me understand hydrogels in an inkjet cartridge? 15:46 < QuantumG> what progress have you made since you asked days ago? 15:47 < QuantumG> (and what's a hydrogel?) 15:51 < xp_prg> here is the link showing the video of the printing of a heart with an inkjet printer: http://singularityhub.com/2009/06/08/growing-organs-in-the-lab/ 15:51 < xp_prg> it is the video at the bottom 15:52 < xp_prg> someone gave me this link to how to make an inkjet based necleotide printer: http://www.bioinformatics.org/pogo/ 15:54 < xp_prg> here is a list of hygrogel recipes: http://blog.khymos.org/2007/08/14/hydrocolloid-recipe-collection/ 15:55 < xp_prg> here is a way to print pcb's with an inkjet printer: http://hackaday.com/2009/09/02/direct-to-pcb-inkjet-printing/ 15:55 < xp_prg> are you happy with my research? :> 15:56 < QuantumG> so are you going to buy an inkjet printer and give any of these a go? 15:59 < xp_prg> I have two of them 15:59 < xp_prg> one is new and the other is used 15:59 < xp_prg> I need helping coming up with the hydrogel 15:59 < xp_prg> can you assist? 16:00 < QuantumG> seeing as I'm just learning the term, no :) 16:01 < genehacker> hydrogels are like gello 16:01 < genehacker> make some gello 16:01 < genehacker> understand hydrogels 16:01 < genehacker> there's already a company selling an organ printer 16:02 < genehacker> FENN GO TO THE COMPUTER HISTORY MUSEUM 16:02 < genehacker> DO IT 16:02 < genehacker> YOU WON'T REGRET IT 16:02 < genehacker> they have a giant mechanical computer 16:02 < genehacker> they have a difference engine 16:03 < xp_prg> genehacker for how much? 16:03 < genehacker> http://www.computerhistory.org/ 16:03 < xp_prg> genehacker would standard jello work? 16:03 < genehacker> I'm just saying to make some gello 16:03 < genehacker> to eat 16:04 < genehacker> the jello process will help you understand hydrogels 16:04 < xp_prg> I already know how to make jello 16:04 < genehacker> how do you make jello? 16:05 < genehacker> think about temperature 16:05 < genehacker> doesn't it involve some sort of HEATing and COOLing process? 16:07 < genehacker> if you're going to san francisco look up the wave organ, also avoid the golden gate bridge 16:08 < xp_prg> yes you boil it, pour it into an ice cube tray, then put in the fridge 16:08 < genehacker> hmmmmmm.... 16:08 < genehacker> now why is that useful for organ printing 16:09 < genehacker> I'd recommend the tech museum if you have time, they have a wetlab with GFP gene and e.coli that I'm sure you could take home... 16:10 < xp_prg> genehacker where is this organ printer? 16:11 < xp_prg> genehacker it is useful to organ printing because you need biopaper which the jello is most like 16:11 < genehacker> anyway before you make an organ printer you need to learn some microbiology and biology 16:11 < genehacker> no 16:11 < genehacker> I don't think you are getting the point 16:12 < xp_prg> genehacker the cells needs to eat something 16:12 < xp_prg> the hydrogel is that something 16:12 < xp_prg> it is the scaffolding 16:13 < genehacker> yeah but you can make scaffolding out of other stuff too 16:13 < genehacker> anyway I really can't help you with this 16:13 < genehacker> I have to study for some finals 16:14 < xp_prg> genehacker where can I find out about this commercial organ printer? 16:16 < genehacker> I'd start by googling the last 3 word you said 16:16 < genehacker> first link should give you what you're looking for 16:16 < genehacker> http://singularityhub.com/2009/12/03/organovo-has-its-first-commercial-3d-bioprinter/ 16:21 -!- nchaimov [n=cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:27 < xp_prg> they mention a hydrogel 16:27 < xp_prg> that is what I need help with! 16:30 < QuantumG> I guess search for microbial hydrogels 16:32 < genehacker> well hydrogel formulation probably depends on what's going to be living in it 16:32 < xp_prg> what plant cell would you recommend for what I am doing? 16:47 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-217-212.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit ["Silent gratitude isn't very much use to anyone."] 17:09 < QuantumG> why don't you just try using regular jelly? 17:10 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-89-236.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:14 < QuantumG> I'm sure being able to print arbitrarily shaped tasty treats has a direct commercial application. 17:16 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-156-240.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:19 < xp_prg> wow I didn't think of that! 17:19 < xp_prg> do you think jelly would work?! 17:19 < QuantumG> there's only one way to find out 17:20 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-49-59.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ is now known as jasonwohlfahrt 17:44 < jasonwohlfahrt> anybody out there know if bryan's presentation is archived for viewing? 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21:20 < kanzure> no, but i did visit the beaches 21:20 < kanzure> fenn: you around? 21:20 < genehacker> where'd you go? 21:21 < kanzure> huntington, newport, laguna, all of them 21:22 < genehacker> oh you're in los angeles 21:22 < genehacker> you see that building from blade runner? 21:23 < kanzure> no i was in los angeles 21:23 < kanzure> now i'm in austin 21:23 < kanzure> i had a really fun time though 21:23 < genehacker> do anything interesting? 21:23 < kanzure> besides ride in a lamborghini, visit the beaches, and trance out to akira? 21:24 < JayDugger> Other than the conference? 21:24 < genehacker> akira? 21:24 < kanzure> the anime 21:24 < kanzure> a dj was busting out the tunes 21:24 < kanzure> and had some visuals to go with it 21:24 < kanzure> dr. strangeloop 21:24 < genehacker> yeah I know which akira 21:24 < kanzure> fenn might know 21:25 < kanzure> genehacker: did you see todd or anselym's presentations? 21:25 < kanzure> hi JayDugger 21:25 < JayDugger> Welcome back to Texas. I hope KLAX didn't beat you down too much. 21:25 < JayDugger> I hate that airport. 21:26 < kanzure> it sucked 21:26 < kanzure> their security bottleneck is terrible 21:26 < JayDugger> It sucked before TSA, too. 21:26 < genehacker> not sure 21:26 < kanzure> i saw that TLA printed all over everything, who is TSA 21:26 < JayDugger> The nice people who do the no-warrant searches. 21:26 < kanzure> transportation safety authority? 21:26 < JayDugger> Exactly. 21:27 < genehacker> the austin TSA isn't very good.... 21:27 < JayDugger> Dr. Strangeloop? drstrangeloop.wordpress.com 21:27 < JayDugger> That him? 21:27 < kanzure> looks like it 21:27 < genehacker> Todd who? 21:27 < kanzure> huffman 21:27 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/todd-huffman.html 21:28 < genehacker> oh that todd 21:29 < genehacker> any so how goes SKDB 21:29 < genehacker> *anyway 21:29 < kanzure> did you see the presentation? 21:29 < JayDugger> "Break's over. Back on your heads!" 21:29 < genehacker> yes 21:29 < genehacker> I saw it 21:30 < genehacker> pretty good 21:30 < kanzure> JayDugger: :) i read that as "bryan's back, back on your heads!" 21:30 < JayDugger> :) 21:30 < kanzure> genehacker: we've split up the packages into separate repositories finally 21:30 < kanzure> marcin suggested i write a lot of documentation and an overview of the system architecture 21:30 < kanzure> and he's kinda right, it's not really written down anywhere yet 21:31 < JayDugger> I've done technical writing for an employer. I can help edit, if you like. 21:31 < kanzure> yay 21:31 < kanzure> that's great 21:31 < genehacker> anyway we need to put some useful stuff in there 21:31 < genehacker> the stuff fenn presented 21:31 < kanzure> i've never done good documentation (or bad documentation) so a few pointers would be hawt, jay 21:31 < JayDugger> You only say that because you've not worked with them. 21:32 < JayDugger> "Is this a redlined copy or a gore-soaked bandage?" 21:32 < kanzure> yes most people suck at documenting their work.. that's why we need "package maintainers" to be trained professional ninjas 21:32 < kanzure> aka fenn and me 21:32 < kanzure> and maybe ybit if he stops pronouncing everything wrong 21:33 < genehacker> ok then I'll have to throw some packages at you to maintain 21:33 < kanzure> do you have anything? 21:33 < JayDugger> kanzure: All right. I'll assemble some pointers for you and send them to you in the morning. 21:33 < genehacker> I will... 21:33 < kanzure> JayDugger: neat. 21:33 < genehacker> oh wait there is something 21:34 < kanzure> i need to go yell at some sys admins over at a few hosting companies 21:34 < kanzure> ^AA 21:34 < kanzure> shit 21:34 < genehacker> this bearing thing I posted on thingiverse 21:34 < kanzure> are there STL/IGES files? 21:34 < kanzure> er 21:34 < genehacker> yes 21:34 < kanzure> STEP or IGES 21:34 < genehacker> on thingiverse 21:34 < genehacker> STL 21:34 < genehacker> I can generate step 21:35 < genehacker> or whatever you want 21:35 < genehacker> I guess I could design the band making machine first 21:37 < genehacker> but to do that I have to figure out how to make advanced composites 21:40 < QuantumG> pb&j 21:40 < genehacker> silicone and nylon threads 21:42 < genehacker> so what happened to fenn? 21:42 < genehacker> did he go to san jose or something? 21:43 < QuantumG> http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/article/progress_in_solving_switching_problems/ 21:44 < genehacker> focus fusion has some problems according to some big national laboratory 21:44 < genehacker> something about breaking radiation cooling things down too much 21:44 < JayDugger> Source? 21:45 < genehacker> digging it up 21:45 < QuantumG> blah, they say that every time it is brought up 21:45 < JayDugger> Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's untrue. 21:45 < QuantumG> at least Lerner's team is bending some metal now 21:46 < JayDugger> And, yes, the national lab might have a vested interest in critiquing Lerner's team's work. 21:46 < QuantumG> but it is the only thing that will prove them wron 21:46 < JayDugger> Yes. Let the hardware show the truth of it. 21:46 < genehacker> http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/11/lawrenceville-plasma-physics-criticisms.html#disqus_thread 21:46 < JayDugger> Thank you. 21:55 < JayDugger> Good night, all. I have to leave for work soon, and still have to make dinner. 21:55 -!- JayDugger [n=duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 21:55 * fenn blinks 21:56 < fenn> kanzure: did you check the mail? 21:58 < genehacker> still in california fenn? 21:59 < fenn> genehacker: i'm visiting my brother in menlo park 22:06 < fenn> the tap water here is very good 22:06 < fenn> today i was thinking about why different cities have a different vibe - maybe it really is something in the water 22:07 < genehacker> hmmm... 22:08 < genehacker> perhaps you should save some for analysis 22:08 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey 22:08 < genehacker> better tap water than here? 22:08 < fenn> yup; austin tap water makes me emit mucus 22:09 < fenn> hi jason 22:09 < genehacker> interesting 22:09 < genehacker> I don't seem to have any problems 22:09 < jasonwohlfahrt> what's up fenn, you go to cali too? 22:09 < fenn> yeah i'm staying longer 22:09 < fenn> (maybe forever :P) 22:10 < jasonwohlfahrt> Cool 22:10 < jasonwohlfahrt> well, not cool that you're leaving austin but .. , 22:10 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey bryan, welcome back! Can I watch your presentation ever? 22:10 < fenn> me too! 22:11 < genehacker> well just as long as you keep in touch 22:11 < jasonwohlfahrt> yes, do keep in touch 22:11 < jasonwohlfahrt> wait a second, I've met you genehacker, right? 22:12 < fenn> he was the guy with the bag full of reprap pieces 22:12 < jasonwohlfahrt> Ok yeah 22:13 < genehacker> yes 22:13 < kanzure> todd huffman video: http://www.justin.tv/clip/46e7d71831d36f01 22:14 < kanzure> the numbering is weird 22:14 < kanzure> how do i know which video is which? 22:14 < jasonwohlfahrt> sounds like you had a great time, kanzure. I'll definitely have to join you on your next trip 22:15 < kanzure> lemme find the video for you 22:15 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool 22:15 < jasonwohlfahrt> I google waved you about my recipe generator 22:16 < jasonwohlfahrt> I have time to code again now that school is basically finished for me 22:16 < genehacker> is that aubrey degray hosting? 22:17 < genehacker> no it doesn't appear to be NVM 22:17 < kanzure> that's todd huffman 22:17 < kanzure> sigh 22:17 < fenn> gosh you'd think they could at least add names to the videos 22:17 < kanzure> most of the videos seem to be static noise "be back at 2:00pm PST" 22:18 < genehacker> I'm not very good with names/faces 22:18 < fenn> oh it's not even divided per talk, i think it's just one every 15 minutes 22:18 < jasonwohlfahrt> hmmm 22:18 < kanzure> lame 22:18 < kanzure> well i found joseph's talk 22:18 < kanzure> and edward's 22:18 < kanzure> aha 22:18 < kanzure> http://www.justin.tv/clip/2c0676f2a8e51e76 22:19 * fenn cringes 22:19 < fenn> i hope my talk was better than theirs :x 22:19 < kanzure> than who's? 22:19 < kanzure> right now i'm not getting audio on that last link 22:19 < QuantumG> looks like it has just been cut up arbitrarily 22:20 < kanzure> amateurs 22:20 < QuantumG> 15 min chunks of whatever they recorded 22:20 < jasonwohlfahrt> is that your pres, fenn? 22:20 < genehacker> that'd be justin.tv's fault 22:20 < jasonwohlfahrt> sounds like you 22:20 < genehacker> it is fenn 22:21 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool! 22:21 < fenn> stop talking! i'm trying to highlight this url on an OSX bullshit terminal 22:21 < jasonwohlfahrt> haha 22:21 < fenn> there we go 22:21 < fenn> yeah that's me 22:22 < jasonwohlfahrt> so how was the quality of the conference overall? 22:22 < kanzure> patri friedman: http://www.justin.tv/clip/005477732ab6bf64 22:22 < jasonwohlfahrt> oh sweet 22:22 < kanzure> end of patri's talk and presumably the start of our talk: http://www.justin.tv/clip/33ab85ea27c8499f 22:22 < jasonwohlfahrt> Damn, I'm so jealous. Wish I would've gone 22:22 < kanzure> hm can't seem to fast-forward 22:23 < kanzure> it doesn't seem to be switching between the speaker and presentation 22:23 < QuantumG> wtf is justin tv.. why do people use stuff other than google video / youtube? 22:23 < kanzure> dunno :( 22:23 < QuantumG> or hell, just put up an avi 22:23 < genehacker> live bloggers like it 22:24 < jasonwohlfahrt> boo live bloggers 22:24 < fenn> the audio is all fucked up.. words just sort of disappear 22:24 < QuantumG> live blog.. that's just another term for idiot right? 22:24 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey genehacker, I'm taking an act lab class next semester. Weren't you the one talking to me about this? 22:24 < genehacker> yeah 22:25 < genehacker> they're ok 22:25 < jasonwohlfahrt> should be fucking crazy 22:25 < jasonwohlfahrt> hmmm 22:25 < jasonwohlfahrt> yeah, i hear mixed things 22:25 < genehacker> what do you mean by fucking crazy 22:25 < genehacker> well they tend to do crafty type things 22:25 < jasonwohlfahrt> well i watched the soundscape presentations yesterday and they were really cool 22:26 < kanzure> i think our presentation starts at around 7min in that video 22:26 < jasonwohlfahrt> It seemed pretty art heavy 22:26 < kanzure> fenn: rip away? 22:26 < kanzure> gah someone needs to just fix all this bullshit for them 22:26 < kanzure> torrent the hell out of this.. 22:26 < genehacker> yeah 22:26 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey kanzure, you gonna be in austin over the break? 22:27 < kanzure> yep 22:27 < kanzure> going nowhere 22:27 < genehacker> though if could find the actlab's reprap guy... 22:27 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool, we'll have to meet up soon 22:27 < genehacker> I haven't got a response back from him 22:28 < genehacker> supposedly he has a working extruder and electronics 22:29 < genehacker> though those actlab people can sometimes be lacking in common sense 22:29 < jasonwohlfahrt> The instructors are really interesting 22:29 < jasonwohlfahrt> which class did you take 22:29 < jasonwohlfahrt> or have you taken one? 22:29 < genehacker> I haven't taken an actlab class 22:29 < kanzure> this isn't that bad 22:30 < kanzure> i thought i was terrible :) 22:30 < genehacker> it's what I was watching 22:32 < genehacker> oh I thought you were talking about the quality 22:32 < fenn> wtf they blurred the url's out at the end? 22:32 < genehacker> what URLs? 22:33 < genehacker> that might be an automatic feature of justin.tv 22:34 < jasonwohlfahrt> this presentation's awesome! 22:34 < jasonwohlfahrt> sans justin.tv 22:34 < fenn> watch the first part too, do you know the url kanzure? 22:34 < kanzure> this is the first part: http://www.justin.tv/clip/33ab85ea27c8499f 22:34 < jasonwohlfahrt> sweet! 22:34 < kanzure> i have 30sec left before i'm done watching it 22:34 < genehacker> what URL for the projects? 22:35 < genehacker> I'd really like to see the sources for your presentation 22:35 < kanzure> ok: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/presentations/hplus-summit-2009/ 22:36 < fenn> genehacker: links for the pictures are here; you can probably derive the website from the url http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb_presentation 22:37 < jasonwohlfahrt> About to watch part one 22:37 < genehacker> all that open source stuff 22:37 < jasonwohlfahrt> Hey kanzure, my actlab class is on death, so I'm counting on you to write me code that will re-animate dead bodies 22:37 < genehacker> you made that trefoil fenn? 22:37 < fenn> yeah 22:37 < jasonwohlfahrt> just kidding 22:38 < kanzure> i want to steal DNA from graves of geniuses 22:38 < jasonwohlfahrt> yes! 22:38 < kanzure> does that count? 22:38 < jasonwohlfahrt> Ill help you 22:38 < jasonwohlfahrt> and yes that does 22:38 < kanzure> ok neat 22:38 < jasonwohlfahrt> we can start a brain farm 22:38 < kanzure> greg benford will manufacture some drugs to make your brain express whatever genes they were 22:39 < genehacker> how about just releasing a virus that turns people into zombies 22:39 < jasonwohlfahrt> whoah 22:39 < kanzure> genehacker: how about no 22:39 < genehacker> ok 22:39 < jasonwohlfahrt> that would work too :) 22:40 < genehacker> hmmm... I suppose we run of a couple of newton and einstein clones to see if it was really in the genes 22:40 < jasonwohlfahrt> true 22:40 < kanzure> no i don't care 22:41 < kanzure> i mean i don't care about the clones 22:41 < kanzure> it's going to get really cheap to sequence genomes 22:41 < genehacker> macdonald dollar menu cheap? 22:41 < kanzure> sigh 22:41 < kanzure> i don't think you remember anything 22:42 < genehacker> well I do sort of like that DNA seperator and tags method of doing cheap sequencing 22:42 < kanzure> what about AFM/STM sequencing 22:43 < genehacker> I remember that 22:43 < genehacker> but there are some problems with that 22:43 < fenn> what about 'squeegee STM' synthesis 22:43 < genehacker> unless you mass produce AFM/STM 22:43 < fenn> erm s/synthesis/sequencing/ 22:43 < genehacker> I suppose it's do able 22:44 < fenn> a wide flat tip makes an edge that squeezes the dna against a flat surface 22:44 < kanzure> you just need to mass produce the probe tip, if anything 22:44 < genehacker> hmmm... forgot about that one 22:44 < genehacker> well for some spacecraft they make the whole thing using MEMS 22:44 < genehacker> not sure if it's a LIGA process or something super expensive like that 22:45 < genehacker> but it's one way to make AFM's cheap enough to be encorporated into children 22:45 < genehacker> 's toys 22:46 < jasonwohlfahrt> I'm still trying to figure out what toys to buy 22:46 < jasonwohlfahrt> got about 3k to spend 22:46 < genehacker> that's about how much a fab@home cost 22:47 < jasonwohlfahrt> hmm 22:47 < genehacker> hmmm... I think there's a 3d printer or laser cutter that cost that much 22:47 < genehacker> and by 3d printer I mean something a bit more professional than reprap 22:47 < jasonwohlfahrt> that would be really cool 22:47 < fenn> don't get a fab@home .. blah 22:47 < kanzure> don't buy a 3dprinter 22:47 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey, my email is jkwohlfahrt@gmail.com 22:48 < jasonwohlfahrt> send me toy ideas everyone 22:48 < jasonwohlfahrt> bryan already has 22:48 < fenn> srsly.. go steal genehacker's bits and build the fucking thing already 22:48 < genehacker> I don't have all the pieces 22:48 < QuantumG> wow, this justin.tv is incredible FAIL 22:48 < jasonwohlfahrt> yep 22:49 < fenn> jasonwohlfahrt: do you like making stuff? what is meant exactly by "toy"? 22:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> epic fail 22:49 < QuantumG> kanzure: any idea how I can get a list of all videos titled Humanity Plus x/36 22:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> that's up to you to define, fenn 22:49 < genehacker> I lack the important stuff like the x-carriage, y-carriage, so even if I wanted to start making the cartesian robot 22:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> i like to make stuff, yes 22:49 < genehacker> I'd only get to about step 2 22:49 < fenn> jasonwohlfahrt: well the droid phone is quite a toy 22:49 < fenn> or is it a toybox 22:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> yes, i want one 22:50 < QuantumG> oooohh.. I discovered the "Next Clip" button.. now all I need is a "previous clip" button 22:50 < kanzure> QuantumG: http://www.justin.tv/techzulu/all 22:50 < kanzure> but for some reason they are out of order there 22:50 < QuantumG> well, I can at least find 1 22:50 < genehacker> ooops my bad you're 11,900 short of stratasys's professional desktop 3d printer 22:50 < QuantumG> you'd think 22:51 < QuantumG> http://www.justin.tv/clip/3a073af4c8b8fda8 is 1/36 22:51 < kanzure> QuantumG: are you fixing their fail? 22:51 < kanzure> or should i do it 22:51 < genehacker> you could contact the techzulu guy 22:52 < QuantumG> I can start from there and press "next clip" 36 times 22:52 < QuantumG> http://www.justin.tv/techzulu/all?kind=all&filter=all&order=most_recent <- is sensible order 22:53 < kanzure> no i mean ripping the videos 22:53 < kanzure> i can do it but if you're already working on it, screw that :) 22:53 < QuantumG> ripping flash .. I tried my one way I know of and it didn't work.. so no 22:54 < jasonwohlfahrt> im sending your pres to daniel, kanzure 22:54 < kanzure> cool 22:54 < jasonwohlfahrt> he wanted to see it 22:54 < kanzure> QuantumG: wireshark? 22:54 < genehacker> presents are we doing some sort of secret santa thing? 22:54 < QuantumG> never done it kanzure 22:55 < kanzure> blah okay 22:55 < kanzure> i'll fix.. 22:55 * kanzure grumbles 22:55 < genehacker> it's in .flv isn't it? 22:56 < genehacker> oh it is 22:56 < genehacker> I could download it 22:56 < jasonwohlfahrt> super cool presentation, ben and bryan 22:56 < jasonwohlfahrt> just finished 22:57 < kanzure> fenn: we could just rip the audio and lay it over the real slides 22:58 < wrldpc2> is there higher quality video from the summit? a vimeo account? what's the deal? I'm ready to rip the skdb talk and stitch the two parts together but I'd like to know more first. 22:58 < wrldpc2> Great job btw fellas. 22:58 < kanzure> no it's cool i got it 22:58 < kanzure> the quality is kind of lame, yes 22:59 < genehacker> it's good enough 22:59 < kanzure> how do i stich with mplayer? 22:59 < kanzure> hrm 22:59 < QuantumG> kanzure that video could do with a lot of editing 22:59 < kanzure> yeah? 22:59 < jasonwohlfahrt> btw, whens the next world dom task force meetup? 23:00 < QuantumG> 1/36 is just music.. 2/36 is so far the first speaker working on his slides 23:00 < jasonwohlfahrt> can i shoot a video for your website, kanzure? 23:01 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: haha that would be awesome (potentially) 23:01 < jasonwohlfahrt> it would be in glorious full frame hd 23:01 < kanzure> what do you have in mind 23:01 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: well think about this: http://spacecollective.org/ 23:01 < jasonwohlfahrt> anything you want 23:01 < kanzure> watch the first video on there 23:01 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool 23:01 < kanzure> er trying to find it 23:02 < kanzure> i guess it's the "introduction" video 23:02 < kanzure> er nope 23:03 < jasonwohlfahrt> first i need to close half of the 50+ windows open on my comp so stuff will load 23:04 < kanzure> ok let me find the right link 23:04 < genehacker> the space collective thing? 23:04 < genehacker> that crashed my firefox before I closed a couple windows 23:04 < genehacker> *tabs 23:04 < jasonwohlfahrt> could we start an h+ ut chapter, or would that even be worth the time? 23:05 < kanzure> i thought we already are a chapter? 23:05 < kanzure> http://spacecollective.org/?ep=1 <-- start here, and watch until at least episode 4 23:06 < genehacker> UT gives out money if you ask the rightway 23:06 < QuantumG> 3/36 + 8 mins the conf actually starts 23:06 < jasonwohlfahrt> yeah, isee what you're saying kanzure 23:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> you could frame capture the pres and edit it 23:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> i have camtasia, which can do this really well 23:07 < kanzure> oh start with chapter 2 actually 23:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> will do 23:07 < kanzure> hm i don't actually know 23:08 < kanzure> it's quick to start at 1. whatever 23:08 < kanzure> i wish this was easier for me to remember what we were shown 23:08 < genehacker> are we editing this stuff or downloading it 23:08 < genehacker> I can download all those videos 23:08 < genehacker> should I? 23:09 < kanzure> the conference videos? no, i've already done it mostly 23:09 < kanzure> i mean i have the two for our presentation 23:09 < kanzure> the others can wait i guess? 23:09 < genehacker> the space collective videos 23:11 < genehacker> got one 23:12 < kanzure> aha 23:12 < fenn> so i've spent about ten minutes trying to post a comment on justin.tv 23:12 < kanzure> it's number 5 23:12 < kanzure> http://spacecollective.org/?ep=5 23:12 < fenn> is this obvious and i'm just blidn or something? 23:13 < genehacker> get five? 23:13 < genehacker> affirmative 23:15 < kanzure> fenn: no justin.tv just sucks and probably uses javascript that you're not turning on 23:16 < genehacker> got 5 23:16 < jasonwohlfahrt> I just now brought my computer back from a catatonic state 23:16 < jasonwohlfahrt> whew! 23:17 < genehacker> I do that every time I turn on or of my computer 23:17 < jasonwohlfahrt> I need more ram! 23:20 < QuantumG> ummm. 23:20 < QuantumG> did you know that you're allowed to take firearms onto planes in checked bags? 23:21 < genehacker> no 23:21 < QuantumG> its gotta be unloaded 23:21 < QuantumG> but the ammunition can be in the same case 23:22 < genehacker> yeah yeah but they're still not going to find all those ceramic bullets and rifles anyway 23:22 < QuantumG> I guess they only care about carry-on 23:23 < genehacker> what's going to happen, the gun's going to automatically load itself and then commandeer the airplane? 23:23 < kanzure> YES 23:24 < jasonwohlfahrt> I should relay some of these ideas to my screenwriter friends 23:24 < QuantumG> well, its just nice to know you only have to get down to the baggage to get your gun if your plane is hijacked ;) 23:24 < genehacker> I'm sure there's away around using a gun 23:25 < genehacker> perhaps that patriotic guy sitting next to you will find an altruistic solution 23:25 < QuantumG> I'm not terribly interested in taking down a plane.. pretty sure I could figure it out if I was. 23:26 < QuantumG> radio jammer in a cell phone would be sufficient I expect. 23:45 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@140a.hackerdojo.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:55 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 23:57 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap