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00:00 < genehacker> that's gonna take a while
00:00 < genehacker> how big is it?
00:01 < genehacker> I really need to pick up one of those liscenses again
00:14 < kanzure> a few gigabytes
00:18 < fenn> kanzure: are you google stalking me?
00:18 < kanzure> no, of course not
00:19 < kanzure> by no i mean yes
00:19 < fenn> perhaps i should have said "why are you.."
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02:03 < chupadupa> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/14/rustbelt-collapse-di.html
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03:12 < Trooem> wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuw
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03:12 < Trooem> what happened
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03:43 < fenn> kanzure: thought you'd like this: http://firstpersontetris.com
04:15 < Trooem> this is amazing
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04:52 < QuantumG> http://www.physorg.com/news182581342.html
04:52 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbTf2nE3Lbw
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08:00 < flamt> http://freshmeat.net/projects/telepathic-critterdrug
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08:29 < zignig> FNORD
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10:10 < kanzure> how much do you think this will cost? http://www.greatamerican.com/auctions/AuctionEventDetails.aspx?EventID=460
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13:32 < kanzure> http://ccsl.mae.cornell.edu/eureqa 
13:32 < kanzure> "Eureqa is a software tool for detecting equations and hidden mathematical relationships in your data. Its primary goal is to identify the simplest mathematical formulas which could describe the underlying mechanisms that produced the data."
13:32 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/eureqa-group
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14:24 < kanzure> does anyone have an opinion on imminst.org's nootropic community? they don't seem to know how to design good (or any) experiments
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16:34 < genehacker> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1339
16:34 < genehacker> oops wrong link
16:34 < genehacker> disregard that
16:34 < genehacker> http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/cannon-shooting-supplies-space?page=
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19:14 < ybit> kanzure: what software were you using to triangulate the wifi signal in the localization software?
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19:19 < ybit> geoclue?
19:19 < ybit> libchamplain
19:26 < ybit> okay, certain not libchamplain
19:27 < ybit> though it is nice
19:27 < ybit> magicmap: http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/rok/MagicMap/
19:29 < kanzure> ybit: i wrote the code myself.
19:30 < kanzure> well, some other people also contributed some code
19:30 < ybit> what libs did you use?
19:30 < kanzure> heh none
19:30 < kanzure> just iwconfig
19:30 < ybit> interesting
19:30 < kanzure> wasn't quite triangulation
19:31 < ybit> airodump gives you the 'pwr' levels, i.e. signal strength and you can kind of tell where everything is
19:31 < kanzure> so does iwconfig..
19:32 < ybit> through iwconfigh <interface> scanning?
19:32 < kanzure> yeah
19:32 < ybit> iwconfig*
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19:37 < ybit> http://www.wigle.net/:: wifi locations list
19:38 < ybit> an attempt of an open version of the above: 
19:38 < ybit> http://www.opencellid.org/
19:39 < ybit> why use your street address, gps coordinates are better: http://geocoder.us/
19:40 < kanzure> gps coords suck for indoor localization
19:41 < ybit> heh
19:41 < ybit> or should i frown
19:51 < ybit> interesting : http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/Features
19:53 < ybit> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1009703/wifi-triangulation 
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20:17 < ybit> can i has? http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1263604533&sr=8-1
20:17 < MrClif> Yo Bkero! you around?
20:19 < ybit> guess you could just just hook a gps receiver up to an arduino
20:20 < ybit> MrClif, bkero: have you two talked to marcin recently?
20:22 < MrClif> Hi, nope, about the ... otp ;-)
20:26 < MrClif> Say does anyone have bkero's email?
20:27 < ybit> pm
20:27 < ybit> i forgot if he shared it in the channel or through pm
20:29 < MrClif> yep. 
20:30 < MrClif> no, nothing from the OpenFarmTech folks.
20:36 < ybit> The following provides some approximations of the attenuation values through common office construction at 2.4 GHz (802.11b/g):
20:36 < ybit>     *
20:36 < ybit>       Plasterboard wall: 3dB
20:36 < ybit>     *
20:36 < ybit>       Glass wall with metal frame: 6dB
20:36 < ybit>     *
20:36 < ybit>       Cinder block wall: 4dB
20:36 < ybit>     *
20:36 < ybit>       Office window: 3dB
20:36 < ybit>     *
20:37 < ybit>       Metal door: 6dB
20:37 < ybit>     *
20:37 < ybit>       Metal door in brick wall: 12.4dB
20:43 < kanzure> http://courses.cit.cornell.edu/ee476/FinalProjects/s2007/ayl26_ym82/ayl26_ym82/index.htm
20:45 < ybit> did someone paste this: http://ccsl.mae.cornell.edu/eureqa :: "Eureqa is a software tool for detecting equations and hidden mathematical relationships in your data."
20:45 < kanzure> yes
20:46 < kanzure> cathal's plastic lathe: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1570
20:46 < kanzure> fuck i bet this is opnescad
20:46 < kanzure> *openscad
20:48 < ybit> fenn, i'm guessing you didn't create any cad files for your lathe?
20:48 < kanzure> it was the gingery lathe
20:49 < kanzure> yeah it's not GPLed
20:50 < kanzure> crap :(
20:51 < ybit> openscad?
20:52 < kanzure> no, cathal's lathe
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20:52 < ybit> well, guess i'm off the internets for the night :\
20:54 < kanzure> in soviet russia, the internet gets off YOU
21:06 < genehacker> ybit why do you need a waterproof gps receiver? are you making an AUV?
21:12  * genehacker wonders how deep under water gps works
21:39 < kanzure> i like how i ask people if thy need funding and then they come back asking if they can give money to *me*
21:39 < kanzure> how does this work?
21:41 < QuantumG> who cares, take their money
21:42 < parolang> Careful, determine what they ask for in return.  Taking money often implies an implicit obligation.
21:44 < genehacker> awesome
21:44 < genehacker> you know what the first rule of business is right kanzure?
21:44 < genehacker> when someone gives you money, take it
21:45 < kanzure> business?
21:45 < genehacker> yeah
21:46 < genehacker> the second rule is don't do anything illegal
21:47 < parolang> I thought the second rule is don't get *caught* doing anything illegal?
21:47 < genehacker> oh oops
21:47 < genehacker> forgot
21:47 < parolang> ;)
21:47 < genehacker> I'm not a business major so I wouldn't know
21:50 < genehacker> kanzure, you got any tips for googlestalking someone with a common name?
22:04 < kanzure> they probably have a username. find it.
22:12 < bkero> ybit: Yea I have
22:12 < bkero> MrClif: What's up?