--- Day changed Sat Jan 16 2010 00:02 < MrClif> Hey, I sent you mail. 00:04 < kanzure> gasp 00:14 -!- kristianpaul [n=kristian@190.7.148.137] has quit ["leaving"] 00:59 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:52 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:07 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:28 -!- chupadupa [n=chupacab@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:09 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:46 -!- randallagordon_ [n=wIRCer@173.151.123.42] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:06 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:12 -!- randallagordon_ [n=wIRCer@173.151.123.42] has left #hplusroadmap [] 04:18 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:27 < fenn> i'm going to have to register with thingiverse just to say that cathal's lathe isn't all that good 06:48 < fenn> wow the bandwidth @ siai house is amazing 08:16 -!- kristianpaul [n=kristian@190.7.148.137] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:05 < kanzure> fenn: siai house is what? 10:05 < flamt> http://freshmeat.net/projects/telepathic-critterdrug 10:29 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/longevity/ 10:29 < kanzure> er 10:29 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/longevity/ 10:29 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/stem-cells/ 10:30 -!- thesnark [n=michael@ppp-69-221-8-112.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:31 -!- thesnark [n=michael@ppp-69-221-8-112.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:31 -!- thesnark [n=michael@ppp-69-221-8-112.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:33 < kanzure> hello thesnark 10:33 < kanzure> just sent out an email to youy 10:33 < kanzure> *you 10:33 < thesnark> hello kanzure 10:33 < thesnark> yeah saw that 10:34 < kanzure> i also threw up a nootropics page on the site 10:35 < kanzure> but it's really just my notes: http://heybryan.org/leveraging-nootropics.html 10:35 < kanzure> i'm not convinced that imminst.org is a good source of information on noots 10:35 < kanzure> but, some information is useful, like mechanisms of action and exploring whether or not it's a legit target for gene therapy or some other modifications 10:36 < thesnark> completely unrelated question: How much do you make on average from the ads on your site? 10:36 < thesnark> I mean, is it worth having them? 10:37 < kanzure> i make on average $5 every 4 months 10:37 < kanzure> and no, it's not worth it :( 10:37 < thesnark> haha 10:37 < kanzure> are you subscribed to this mailing list yet? http://groups.google.com/group/diytranshumanist 10:38 < thesnark> I am now 10:38 < kanzure> and what about http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing and http://groups.google.com/group/diybio 10:39 < thesnark> ah my time is really pretty limited, I'll probably just stick with diytranshumanist 10:40 < kanzure> ok 11:04 < ybit> thesnark: i would recommend signing up to openmanufacturing and diybio, that's where the conversations take place, diyh+ has little traffic currently 11:05 * thesnark signs up for digests 11:07 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:12 < ybit> firefox is slow at 237 tabs for me 11:12 < ybit> the computer is running just fine though 11:12 < wrldpc2> they're broadcasting the foresight 2010 conference @http://www.techzulu.com/live.html later this morning I think. 11:16 < ybit> oooh, aaah 11:17 < ybit> the video from the h+ conf sucks ftr 11:17 < ybit> weren't they recording in hd? 11:17 < ybit> like that's going to make the video instantly better, but i thought they had a better setup than what is available 11:49 < fenn> ok i'm at foresight conference.. what should i do :P 11:50 * fenn sips some tea 11:56 < ybit> at the foresight conference, wondering what to do? talk on irc of course :) 11:56 < ybit> what were you doing on the east coast? 11:59 -!- cyrozap [n=cyrozap@76-204-127-43.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:00 < flamt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMCG__YXxVk 12:00 < flamt> telepathic-critterdrug 300x speed 12:00 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:15 < ybit> so far, foresight is more technical than h+ summit and i like it 12:17 < ybit> it reminds me of the basic bio overview on the second day of h+s 12:18 < thesnark> ybit is there a video camera recording? 12:19 < thesnark> or even better: a stream? 12:19 < thesnark> a _live_ stream 12:19 < ybit> 11:12 < wrldpc2> they're broadcasting the foresight 2010 conference @http://www.techzulu.com/live.html later this morning I think. 12:19 * thesnark cheers 12:20 < thesnark> sorry, I just kind of glance at IRC once every 20/30 minutes so I miss messages sometimes 12:20 < wrldpc2> no offense to techzulu but can they please get a youtube/vimeo account? 12:21 < wrldpc2> Their video archiving op sucks. We had to go in and stitch together Bryan & Ben's presentation at H+Sum. 12:22 < thesnark> ugh terrible hum 12:22 < wrldpc2> That too. 12:22 < ybit> np thesnark, i do the same but usually read everything i missed :) 12:23 < wrldpc2> what's the name of the streaming service that the bald guy with glasses who updates on related Singularium? 12:23 < wrldpc2> he does a show every sunday called Sunday Update or something. 12:23 < wrldpc2> That service is much more appropriately tailored to this kind of broadcast. 12:24 < wrldpc2> Stickam is good for group video conferencing but if you're in a one way communicative transaction (source->audience) it is a bloated mash-up of unnecessary redundancies, etc. 12:27 < ybit> wrldpc2: it's justin from the immortality institute 12:28 < ybit> wrldpc2: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-evening-update 12:29 < ybit> haven't looked there in awhile 12:29 < ybit> if you see something interesting let me know :) 12:29 < wrldpc2> Thank you! 12:29 < wrldpc2> Yes ustream is the site. 12:30 -!- thesnark [n=michael@ppp-69-221-8-112.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit [""OH SHI-""] 12:30 < ybit> i recognize some of the guys at the foresight conf 12:30 < ybit> e.g. the largest head on-screen right now 12:31 < ybit> the largest.. with hair 12:31 < ybit> don't know his name, but he was at the h+ summit 12:32 < wrldpc2> Is that Huffman with the hat? 12:33 < ybit> i don't think so 12:38 < fenn> the guy with the huge afro is from harvey mudd college, i forget his name, not sure if he was at h+ 12:41 < fenn> i already know all this stuff :( 12:47 < ybit> "when you die, will you trend" 12:49 -!- MrClif [n=clif@c-67-189-76-247.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:50 -!- MrClif [n=clif@c-67-189-76-247.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:56 < ybit> techzulu is annoying 12:56 < ybit> i have to register with stickam before being able to chat below the video 12:56 < ybit> but they don't tell you this 12:56 < ybit> and you wonder why you aren't able to login with your with techzulu account 12:57 < ybit> (minus second instance of 'with') 12:57 < ybit> fenn: you want to save me some time and just tell me which talks to view later? :) 13:01 -!- cyrozap [n=cyrozap@76-204-127-43.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:02 < ybit> http://stickam.com/techzulu works better for me than the techzulu site 13:07 < ybit> hrm, the techzulu site works just fine in google chrome 13:11 < ybit> http://ccsl.mae.cornell.edu/eureqa is what is being talked about now 13:12 < ybit> which is what was pasted in the past couple of days 13:16 -!- cyrozap [n=cyrozap@76-204-127-43.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:18 < ybit> questions for hod lipson, anyone? 13:19 < ybit> they are taking questions from the online crowd and nobody's aske 13:19 < genehacker> here? 13:19 < genehacker> *where? 13:20 < genehacker> WHY ISN'T FAB @HOME V2 OUT YET? 13:20 < ybit> http://www.techzulu.com/live.html 13:22 < ybit> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/health/22brain.html?_r=4&pagewanted=2&ref=science :: building a search engine for the brain, step by step 13:22 < genehacker> you mind asking hod why he hasn't put the files for his 3d printed truss crawling robot on thingiverse yet? 13:22 < genehacker> or when fab@home v2 comes out 13:23 < genehacker> I'm packing for austin right now 13:27 < ybit> i would love to ask, but he wasn't talking about that 13:34 < kanzure> ybit: use opera instead of firefox for tabbing :) 13:35 < kanzure> fenn: talk with freitas, merkle, drexler, lipson 13:39 < ybit> opera, the closed source browser, grr 13:39 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: katsmeow-afk, branstrom, splicer_, randallagordon, MrClif, danielfalck 13:40 < ybit> i've been using firefox for tabs and google chrome if ff fails 13:40 < Utopiah> ybit: if open questions are still going on, maybe asking if they plan to do the equivalent of project polymath and collaborative work since he said“It’s machine teaching, rather than machine learning.” (thus could follow maybe wikipedia/polytmath) paths 13:41 < ybit> Utopiah: questions are up, they are on their lunch break 13:43 -!- thesnark [n=michael@131.183.23.236] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:44 < Utopiah> ok 13:45 -!- MrClif [n=clif@c-67-189-76-247.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- randallagordon [n=randalla@c-76-115-127-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- branstrom [n=branstro@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-216-184.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- splicer_ [n=patrik@h16n2c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- danielfalck [n=chatzill@pool-71-111-79-148.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: katsmeow-afk, splicer_, randallagordon, branstrom, MrClif, danielfalck 13:48 -!- any63099963 [n=someone@75-120-216-184.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: danielfalck, branstrom 13:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: splicer_ 13:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: randallagordon, MrClif 13:58 < genehacker> fenn you mind asking my questions to hod? 14:00 < genehacker> http://ccsl.mae.cornell.edu/papers/REMAR09_Hjelle.pdf 14:00 < ybit> the new speaker is talking about afm tech, nothing new. 14:00 < ybit> any questions for him? 14:01 < genehacker> particularly why the cad files for his robotically reconfigurable truss aren't on thingiverse 14:01 < genehacker> it was rapid prototyped 14:41 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:46 < ybit> market away http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AUofbBjmGBx0ZGc5cDVoZ21fNTJnZzM2Ym1kOQ&hl=en 14:48 < ybit> merckle is talking 14:48 < ybit> merkle* 14:51 < ybit> if you want to ask questions, something that doesn't suck (because so far the questions asked from the online audience suck), join and ask or ask me to ask 14:54 < kanzure> progress on nanoengineer1 15:00 -!- thesnark [n=michael@131.183.23.236] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:02 < ybit> what about it? 15:08 < kanzure> any? 15:25 < ybit> right, they didn't ask that from the users 15:26 < ybit> they asked what type of software whether it be open source or not would help.. he said any.. get to it.. duh 15:29 < ybit> apparently wrldpc2 got the girl to ask the question 15:29 < ybit> or she's about to, kanzure 15:29 < wrldpc2> did someone want to ask gene's question? 15:29 < wrldpc2> it's disruptive, i like it. 15:30 < ybit> genehacker's question was for hod 15:30 < ybit> no nanoeng1 update 15:31 < ybit> indian food with jata? is that parijata? 15:36 < ybit> conferences are fun for a couple of days, but nothing ever gets done at them execpt for making new contacts 15:42 < fenn> ok i am so totally bored and running on 2-3 hours sleep, taking a nap 15:45 < strages> kanzure: are you involved with a hackerspace? 15:54 < ybit> strages: the new austin hackerspace 15:57 -!- thesnark [n=michael@cblmdm72-241-197-46.buckeyecom.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:57 < ybit> strages: nice to hear from you, glad you aren't dead 15:57 < ybit> kanzure: what's the word from mitch? 15:57 * ybit quits pestering for the day :) 16:01 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:06 < fenn> would someone please watch the foresight talks today and give short summary? 16:06 < fenn> millstein just talked about sanger sequencing, pyro sequencing, and nanopore stuff 16:07 < fenn> lipson did all of his usual talks compressed into one, basically the same as his website 16:08 < fenn> custance showed how you could exchange si/ge atoms on an AFM tip, and do vibrational spectroscopy and/or chemical interaction forces to determine an atom's type 16:08 < fenn> and merkle just talked about freitas' major papers for the last 30 years 16:10 < fenn> my personal accomplishment for the day was running into a tree on my bike and not getting hurt 16:11 < fenn> i sort of wonder if the tree placement was to discourage bicyclists 16:13 < thesnark> fenn how is cycling in Austin? Is it a viable solution for car-replacement? 16:14 < fenn> thesnark: if you live downtown maybe 16:14 < fenn> a lot of stuff happens out in the boonies on the north side where corporate megaplexes are 16:15 < fenn> cycling is a lot more practical in the bay area because of all the trains 16:15 < thesnark> how is the train fare? 16:16 < thesnark> reasonable? 16:16 < fenn> $3-5 each way 16:16 < thesnark> ew 16:16 < fenn> south bay to SF is two trains, unless you are going to a particular spot in SF 16:17 < fenn> i will have to try that some time 16:17 * fenn mumbles self to sleep 16:17 < thesnark> it would be kinda cool to get a cellular broadband card for a netbook and just kinda hang out around the city while you do work all day 16:17 < thesnark> be a nomad 16:17 * thesnark mumbles like fenn 16:39 < bkero> yarrr 16:43 -!- any63099963 is now known as katsmeow 16:47 < ybit> first time to hear of the .coop tld 16:47 -!- timothyschmidt [n=tim@adsl-69-208-79-233.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:17 < fenn> thesnark: that is a nice idea that is now possible with clear/wimax 17:17 < thesnark> fenn there is wimax service in Austin? 17:17 < fenn> i would want a wearable w/HUD and some portable keyboardy thing 17:17 < thesnark> your city gets more appealing every day 17:18 < fenn> thesnark: yeah as of december 17:18 < fenn> heh maybe you can take my room then :P 17:19 < fenn> how do i carry around a netbook without needing a backpack 17:19 * thesnark thinks you could probably make HUD glasses for not much money 17:19 < thesnark> hmmm 17:20 < fenn> already did 17:20 < thesnark> you really just need a wearable computer 17:20 < thesnark> probably also doable for not too much 17:21 * fenn orders a round tuit from mcmaster 17:21 < thesnark> except wearing a transmitter for wimax/cellular broadband is probably not good for you in the long term 17:21 < fenn> bah 17:21 < fenn> as if having one in your pocket is any better 17:21 < thesnark> I guess as long as I don't get a brain tumor I'm ok 17:21 < fenn> a phone' 17:22 < fenn> pro tip: eat vegan organic foods rich in fats and enzymes 17:22 < thesnark> hm why? 17:23 < thesnark> I mean 17:23 < thesnark> what about them 17:23 < fenn> so as not to get cancer 17:23 < thesnark> that keeps me from getting a brain tumor 17:23 < fenn> yep 17:23 < thesnark> no no like what is in those thins 17:23 < thesnark> things* 17:23 < fenn> it's more like what's not in them 17:23 < thesnark> I see 17:23 < fenn> less pesticide residue and heavy metals 17:24 < fenn> also the enzymes and other "stuff" keeps your immune system working better 17:24 < thesnark> are these enzymes available in a supplement for the lazy? 17:24 < fenn> not really 17:24 < thesnark> awww 17:25 < fenn> you can do juicing i guess.. but it's more about the ratio of good vs bad stuff 17:25 < thesnark> I see 17:25 < fenn> also periodic fasting and yoga or light exercise 17:25 < fenn> all this is so basic i hate talking about it 17:26 < thesnark> well not many people know this stuff....eg myself 17:26 < thesnark> but I mean 17:26 < thesnark> yoga and fasting 17:26 < thesnark> are not things I can make the connection with about avoiding cancer 17:26 < thesnark> why do these prevent cancer? 17:27 < fenn> yoga = blood flow = oxygenation and immune response 17:27 < fenn> fasting is all about removing all the metabolic byproducts that cause damage 17:28 < fenn> many cancer cells work anaerobically so excess oxygen poisons their metabolism 17:28 < fenn> or something like that.. i dont really know the details 17:28 < thesnark> in the midwest exercise is the only thing you can do to keep yourself from going insane 17:29 < thesnark> so I have that covered 17:29 < thesnark> at least the exercise part, I may or may not be insane 17:36 < ybit> a talk on how to create roadmaps? 17:36 < ybit> i just shed a tear 17:37 < fenn> he didnt actually say what the roadmap was? 17:37 < ybit> no, it's how to go about creating roadmaps 17:39 < ybit> so techzulu streams what stickam streams and then saves the videos for viewing later 17:39 < ybit> i'm starting to not like techzulu 17:40 < ybit> the cover interesting conferences is the only decent thing i can say about the service, oh, and they are quick to reply to my tweets that they are down 17:40 < ybit> ..again 17:40 < fenn> ok i'm obviously not sleeping so i guess i shall return to the hotel 17:41 -!- flamt [n=root@70.50.177.225] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:42 < fenn> ybit: wat's the url for live stream? 17:42 < ybit> http://www.techzulu.com/live.html 17:43 < fenn> oh they only do one thing? 17:45 -!- flamt [n=root@70.50.177.225] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:46 < ybit> with lots of ads 17:49 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 17:52 < ybit> no more streaming of the conf for me, it's depressing 18:27 < ybit> kanzure: you should have asked the receptionist that uses your site to help with her son's schooling why we haven't seen them in #hplusroadmap :) 18:33 -!- thesnark [n=michael@cblmdm72-241-197-46.buckeyecom.net] has quit [""OH SHI-""] 18:44 -!- ybit2 [n=ybit@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:00 < kanzure> ybit: no mitch has not got back with me 19:07 < kanzure> first diy gene therapy experiment: colored piss 19:11 < kanzure> http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/ 19:11 < kanzure> http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/openstudio.cfm 19:11 < kanzure> http://www.n55.dk/MANUALS/MICRO_DWELLINGS/micro_dwellings.html 19:25 < ybit2> micro dwellings are neat 19:26 < kanzure> ybit: his wife asked me to stop calling 19:26 < kanzure> or at least said to stop calling her number :p 19:26 < kanzure> although mitch is listed with her number, so whatever 19:37 < ybit2> :P 19:38 < kanzure> hm, maybe colored piss isn't a good idea. maybe i should just sweat minty goodness? 19:38 < ybit2> as long as he responds and sends the files in some reasonable fashion, i'm happy 19:38 < ybit2> i don't know which is stranger 19:39 < kanzure> nobody gets to see the piss :( 19:39 < ybit2> one of my family members could use the minty goodness smelling pee 19:41 * bkero drives down to eugene 19:47 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-55-168.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:01 -!- cyrozap [n=cyrozap@76-204-127-43.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:01 -!- cyrozap [n=cyrozap@76-204-127-43.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:02 -!- thesnark [n=michael@ppp-69-221-8-112.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:02 < ybit2> hi genehacker, cyrozap 20:02 < ybit2> oi thesnark 20:02 < thesnark> good evening ybit 20:05 < kanzure> hello thesnark 20:05 < thesnark> hey there kanzure 20:05 < kanzure> sweat-smells-like-mint or purple piss? 20:06 < thesnark> purple piss. no clue what we're talking about but purple piss 20:06 < wrldpc2> Stickam sucks as a streaming solution. It's good for group video conferencing but not much else. They should've used ustream. I talked to the TechZulu person about the shabbiness of the H+ Summit vid archival effort and they said they gave all the recordings to the "conference leaders" (Alex?) They don't handle archival. Everyone should follow the Singularity Summit model in terms of archival and they should use ustream if they in 20:06 < wrldpc2> stream conference proceedings. Stickam sucks as a streaming solution. 20:06 < genehacker> hello everybody 20:06 < genehacker> what'd I miss today? 20:06 < kanzure> thesnark: potential beginner gene therapy projects 20:07 < thesnark> yeah, purple piss >> sweat-smells-like-mint 20:07 < kanzure> but nobody will see it :( 20:07 < thesnark> UNLESS 20:07 < thesnark> ;) 20:07 < kanzure> hm 20:07 < thesnark> imagine the new fetish videos 20:07 < thesnark> purple showers 20:07 < kanzure> oh boy. 20:07 < thesnark> that is money 20:08 < kanzure> apparently an autosomall recessive gene causes red urine after consumption of asparagus, just need to figure out which acids in particular 20:08 < wrldpc2> That would redefine the Prince song. 20:08 < thesnark> or you could pee in a cup and have somebody drink it and tell them it's grape juice 20:09 < kanzure> thesnark: maybe i'll just skip that and go straight to shitting gold 20:09 < thesnark> oh man, you could be the goose that takes the golden shit 20:09 < thesnark> geese shit a lot 20:09 < kanzure> just call me mama goose 20:10 < thesnark> you could totally destroy the gold market hahaha 20:11 < thesnark> oh man, these ideas alone make it all worth it 20:11 < thesnark> I mean purple piss 20:11 * thesnark would pay a lot to pick his urine color 20:11 < kanzure> really? 20:12 < genehacker> methylene blue 20:12 < thesnark> yes really 20:12 < kanzure> huh. and here i was just going to use this to make sure gene therapy worked 20:12 < kanzure> i.e. a simple "hello world" is "does the piss look different?" 20:12 < thesnark> right 20:12 < thesnark> but humanity is so new to this stuff 20:12 < genehacker> been there done that 20:13 < thesnark> I mean if life isn't about having colored piss I'm not sure what possible meaning I could assign to it 20:13 * thesnark is only half joking... 20:13 < kanzure> hm 20:13 < genehacker> how about telling extraterrestrial life about the game? 20:13 < genehacker> via stellar engineering 20:13 < thesnark> HAHAH 20:14 < thesnark> YOU LOSE 20:14 < thesnark> ugh I like stupid internet jokes too much 20:14 < kanzure> mammillarinin who the fuck names this shit 20:14 < thesnark> hahaha 20:14 < kanzure> aha 20:14 < kanzure> http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?sid=10730 20:14 < thesnark> some pissed of foreigners that had to learn english 20:15 * kanzure checks if there's a synthesis pathway 20:15 < genehacker> sounds like it's from latin 20:15 < genehacker> Mammillarinin: A New Malonylated Betacyanin from Fruits of Mammillaria 20:15 < genehacker> ah there we go 20:16 < kanzure> aw, betacyanin not found in reactome.org :( 20:16 < kanzure> hm 20:16 < genehacker> what are we trying to make here? 20:16 < thesnark> gnusha has dna synthesizing stuff then? 20:16 < kanzure> thesnark: what do you mean by "has" 20:16 < genehacker> kanzure you got any clep test books? 20:17 < thesnark> gnusha is a hackerspace, rigt? 20:17 < thesnark> right* 20:17 < kanzure> no gnusha is not a hackerspace 20:17 < thesnark> O_O 20:17 < thesnark> ;__; 20:17 < kanzure> genehacker: yes, http://heybryan.org/books/tests/ i think 20:17 < thesnark> ok well 20:17 < kanzure> thesnark: but yes, a dna synthesizer is planned 20:17 < kanzure> i don't have one at the moment 20:17 < thesnark> ah 20:17 < kanzure> and i don't know if i want to buy one off of ebay or just build one 20:17 < genehacker> sweet 20:18 < genehacker> your server is broken 20:18 < kanzure> nah the folder just doesn't exist 20:18 < kanzure> check http://heybryan.org/books/ for something that sounds like "tests" or "reviews" 20:19 < kanzure> i know it's somewhere 20:19 < kanzure> "Temperature-dependent Expression of Betacyanin Synthesis in Amaranthus Seedlings" 20:20 -!- chupadupa [n=chupacab@adsl-71-145-180-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:20 < genehacker> colored urine is a bad idea, it will mess up medical tests that use spectrophotometers 20:21 < kanzure> not if it's rna interference (temporary) 20:21 < kanzure> er, wait 20:21 < kanzure> sorry just pretend i didn't say that 20:21 < kanzure> there's not many applications of RNAi in this area 20:21 < genehacker> we don't make betacyanin now do we? 20:21 < kanzure> no :( 20:21 < genehacker> so we can't knock out the genes that suppress making it 20:21 < kanzure> i told you to pretend that i didn't say that 20:21 < genehacker> RNA lassos are pretty cool 20:21 < genehacker> ok 20:22 < genehacker> anyway I think blue skin will sell better 20:22 < kanzure> i'm not trying to sell anything. sigh. 20:23 < thesnark> money makes the world go round 20:23 < genehacker> it will get you better karma then 20:23 < genehacker> on gene sharing websites 20:24 < genehacker> that as of yet don't exist 20:25 < kanzure> "Our findings suggest that, in suspension-cultured cells of Portulaca, an MJ-mediated signal 20:25 < kanzure> transduction pathway prominently exists in betacyanin synthesis." 20:27 < kanzure> yay there's a betanidin 5-O-beta-glucosyltransferase (EC 2.4.1). 20:30 < kanzure> inputs: betanidin 5-O-glucoside, uridine 5prime-diphosphate(UDP)-glucose 21:16 -!- marainein [n=marainei@220-253-157-167.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:25 < fenn> brad templeton's talk on robocars was pretty good 21:26 < fenn> robocars.net might be a better way to digest the info 21:38 < kanzure> doesn't brad always talk about that? (the dood from the eff) 21:50 -!- QuantumG [n=qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:03 -!- thesnark [n=michael@ppp-69-221-8-112.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit ["OH SHI-"] 22:27 -!- QuantumG [n=qg@nuclear.biodome.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:32 < ybit2> so bkero, MrClif, what did you three decide with marcin? 22:56 -!- jvalleroy [n=jvallero@cblmdm72-241-144-75.buckeyecom.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:57 < kanzure> hello jvalleroy 22:57 < jvalleroy> hi 22:58 < kanzure> what brings you here? :) 22:59 < jvalleroy> One of my friends suggested this channel. 22:59 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 38 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 38 normal] 22:59 < QuantumG> with friends like that... 22:59 < jvalleroy> We're working on a brain-computer interface so I'm looking to learn more about a variety of subjects. 22:59 < kanzure> ah, you must mean michael grube 22:59 < jvalleroy> yep 23:00 < kanzure> eeg isn't much of a bci 23:00 < jvalleroy> not by itself, no 23:02 < kanzure> well, welcome to the "club" 23:02 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/papers/ 23:02 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/ 23:02 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/neuro/ have fun 23:02 < jvalleroy> Wow that's a lot of reading material. 23:03 < bkero> ybit2: i arrived to pizza late 23:04 < katsmeow-afk> carp, i forgot the pizza 23:04 < katsmeow-afk> thanks, bkero 23:05 < bkero> katsmeow-afk: youre having pizza too? 23:05 * katsmeow-afk nods,, once i re-re-heat it 23:06 < bkero> ah 23:06 < bkero> This is fantastic research pizza 23:07 < katsmeow-afk> this is cheap Walmart brand , but beats Dominoes and papajohns 23:07 < katsmeow-afk> beats pizza hut when fresh and ot 23:07 * ybit2 eats wal-mart pizza as well, had something this morning 23:08 < ybit2> the vegetable medley 23:08 < katsmeow-afk> i like veggie too, but this is the really thick crust supreme 23:08 < ybit2> they keep taking away my vegan options, bastards 23:09 < ybit2> first it was the kashi vegan pizza, now they removed the vegan lasagna 23:09 < bkero> aw 23:09 < bkero> vegan lasagna is hard to make 23:09 < bkero> difficult to replicate the ricotta. 23:09 * kanzure ponders Efficient gene delivery to the adult and fetal CNS using pseudotyped non-integrating lentiviral vectors 23:09 < ybit2> indeed 23:09 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/neuro/Efficient%20gene%20delivery%20to%20the%20adult%20and%20fetal%20CNS%20using%20pseudotyped%20non-integrating%20lentiviral%20vectors.pdf 23:09 < ybit2> well, raw vegan lasagna is* 23:10 < ybit2> thanks for getting us back on track 23:11 < katsmeow-afk> the vegan lasgna is back 23:11 < katsmeow-afk> last i saw, they had store brand and several national brands of veggie lasgna 23:11 < katsmeow-afk> their store brand chicken is ok, i prefer Stouffers veggie 23:46 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap