--- Day changed Thu Jan 28 2010 00:06 -!- nchaimov [n=cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:09 -!- genehacker2 [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-62-155.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:20 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:04 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-62-155.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:10 -!- Noahj [n=noah@ip98-182-59-157.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:49 < fenn> kevin kelly really liked my lifelog thingy 01:50 < fenn> apparently he's been doing the 20 minute x 4 power naps for 15 years 01:54 < kanzure> in person? 01:54 < kanzure> kevin kelly is why i know you 01:54 < fenn> ya i told him about skdb 01:56 < kanzure> why are you getting to meet all the interesting people =[ 01:56 < kanzure> well, at least blab about it 01:56 < kanzure> s/it/him/ 01:56 < fenn> he got all sidetracked about this "forever book" idea, which is a book that teaches you how to make books from dirt and plants 01:56 < kanzure> right 01:57 < kanzure> there was a post on kk.org about that 01:57 < fenn> http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2006/02/the_forever_boo.php 02:39 -!- flamt_ [n=root@70.49.147.7] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:50 -!- flamt [n=root@70.49.147.7] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:52 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-62-155.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:52 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-62-155.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:52 < gearhacker> http://pastebin.com/m44577e04 02:53 < gearhacker> wobble gear generation script, doesn't work, if you can make it work, you win a cookie. 02:57 < gearhacker> http://pastebin.com/d52a37afc 03:01 -!- nchaimov [n=cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:04 -!- any90357856 [n=someone@75-120-21-164.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:13 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-62-155.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:22 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-21-164.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:32 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:34 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- futuresoon [n=futureso@cpe-68-175-67-66.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:18 -!- wrldpc2_ [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:18 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:56 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has quit ["No Ping reply in 180 seconds."] 06:58 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:41 -!- ybit2 [n=heath@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-34-14.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:32 < ybit> bkero: what ip does openmanufacturing need to point to, it's pointing at 69.163.39.14 right now 09:41 -!- randallagordon [n=randalla@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:47 < ybit> "many of the founders of iGEM, including Drew Endy at Stanford, Tom Knight at MIT, and DIYbio-rep Mac Cowell are heavily involved in or supportive of the DIYbio community. " 09:47 -!- randallagordon [n=randalla@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:47 < ybit> http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/bio/diy-bio-growing-movement-takes-aging 09:47 < ybit> is tom knight still involved, was it just the mailing list he ditched? 09:48 < Utopiah> (might interest some people here http://seedea.org/buffering/OFF_THE_GRID.Smiley.DVDRip.avi available for 2 more hours) 09:53 < ybit> Utopiah: what's the file size of that? 09:53 < ybit> meh, nm 09:54 < ybit> 454M 09:55 < ybit> availaavailable for two hours? good. it will take me just over an hour to download it on this slow wireless connection 09:56 < ybit2> i forget the adl connection is slow 09:56 < ybit2> have to use the home connection for irc atm 10:12 < bkero> ybit: done 10:34 < ybit2> thank you bkero 10:35 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:35 -!- ybit2 [n=heath@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 10:36 -!- ybit2 [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- ybit2 [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Client Quit] 10:37 -!- ybit2 [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:39 < bkero> Sorry that took so long. 11:08 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-34-14.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:23 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-103-86.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:39 < ybit2> bkero: np 12:47 < ybit2> http://www.unreasonablefinalists.org/index.php?action=about_pro&proId=149 :: joseph jackson's group trying to raise money 12:49 -!- any90357856 is now known as katsmeow-afk 13:00 -!- wrldpc2_ [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:10 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:39 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@146-115-25-106.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:42 -!- ybit2 [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:52 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-103-86.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:03 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-103-86.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- flamt [n=root@70.49.147.7] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:57 -!- flamt_ [n=root@70.49.147.7] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:58 -!- wrldpc2_ [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:15 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@146-115-25-106.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:28 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-103-86.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:58 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:07 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:09 -!- wrldpc2_ [n=benny@c-24-63-106-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:11 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:05 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-38-146.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:15 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:57 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: drazak_, kardan 17:57 -!- drazak [n=drazak@69.162.134.185] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:22 < kanzure> "Direct Conversion of Fibroblasts to Functional Neurons by Defined Factors" 18:22 < kanzure> bwahaha 18:24 < gearhacker> neat 18:24 < gearhacker> btw do you know anything about the barcelona fablab? 18:41 -!- JayDugger [n=duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:41 < kanzure> hey JayDugger 18:41 < JayDugger> Hello, kanzure. 18:42 < JayDugger> Thank you for posting that U of KY Open Design paper. I enjoyed reading it. 18:43 < JayDugger> I took their point about open design combating obsolescence. A machine designed in the 1980s sat across the room from me when I read that passage. 18:43 < kanzure> "took their point"? 18:44 < JayDugger> Open design would have helped prevent much of the work on that machine. 18:46 < JayDugger> Let me put it this way. That machine's original computer was a PDP-11. 18:46 < kanzure> heh 18:47 < JayDugger> The documentation was written at the beginning of the careers by people who have long since retired. 18:47 < JayDugger> And--any performance tweaks mean editing assembly code. 18:48 < JayDugger> The only good thing about it was truthfully telling my boss, "What do I know about one of those? I've never even seen a picture of one." 18:48 < JayDugger> \/rant :) 19:05 < drazak> kanzure: that sounds highly questionably 19:05 < drazak> kanzure: fibroblasts are pretty mature/restricted 19:16 < futuresoon> Recent work has shown that mouse and human fibroblasts can be reprogrammed to a pluripotent state with a combination of four transcription factors. This raised the question of whether transcription factors could directly induce other defined somatic cell fates, and not only an undifferentiated state. We hypothesized that combinatorial expression of neural-lineage-specific transcription factors could directly convert fibroblasts 19:16 < futuresoon> into neurons. Starting from a pool of nineteen candidate genes, we identified a combination of only three factors, Ascl1, Brn2 (also called Pou3f2) and Myt1l, that suffice to rapidly and efficiently convert mouse embryonic and postnatal fibroblasts into functional neurons in vitro. 19:16 < futuresoon> that's what they're claiming at least 19:20 < drazak> oh, right 19:20 < drazak> you need to make them IPSC's first 19:21 < drazak> also do they show westerns and RTPCR showing gene and protein expression? 19:21 < drazak> I'd guess they'd still show a lot of fibroblast genes 19:24 * fenn just had a nice interview with gary wolf for the NY times 19:25 < JayDugger> Oh? 19:25 < fenn> re: self tracking (and everything else) 19:25 < JayDugger> Kudos! I hope your points survive to publication. :) 19:34 < kanzure> fenn: yeah i've met with gary a few times. nice guy 19:34 < kanzure> he was totally psyched about andrew hessel 19:34 < kanzure> gary wolf is with wired.com though, i thought 19:35 < kanzure> o.O maybe he's switched sides 19:36 < fenn> playing the field i guess 19:37 < fenn> he and kevin seemed to be on good terms 19:43 * fenn grumbles about batteries 19:43 < fenn> off to ARdevmob! 19:44 < QuantumG> http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/27/the-win-human-recorder-a-patch-to-monitor-your-health/ 19:58 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-38-146.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:04 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:08 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:27 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:31 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-40-128.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:50 -!- El_Matarife [n=El_Matar@adsl-68-88-67-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:06 -!- MrClif [n=clif@c-67-189-76-247.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:10 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@adsl-71-145-180-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:15 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has quit ["No Ping reply in 180 seconds."] 21:15 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:20 < MrClif> Evening. 21:21 < JayDugger> Good evening. 21:22 < MrClif> Havn't been on in awhile looks to be pretty quiet tonight. 21:23 < MrClif> Hey Bkero, and Randellgordon, We're doing pizza at PRI tomorrow, not a big deal just thought you'de like to know. :-) 21:24 < MrClif> That goes for anyone else who dosn't mind a drive to Eugene OR. ;-) 21:24 * bkero sees how it fits on his calendar. 21:26 < MrClif> Yep, not a big deal, right now it's Marc, his Hacker Son Ian, Probably Brycen, and myself. 21:54 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-40-128.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:23 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-46-123.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:23 < JayDugger> Time to commute. Good night, all. 22:23 -!- JayDugger [n=duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 22:33 -!- parolang [n=user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:48 < gearhacker> Optimization of Fused Deposition Modelling (FDM) Process Parameters Using Bacterial Foraging Technique 22:48 < gearhacker> hmmm... 22:56 -!- chupacabra [n=chupacab@adsl-71-145-180-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:32 -!- hplusbot [i=ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has quit ["Ctrl-C at console."] 23:33 -!- hplusbot [i=ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- gearhacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-46-123.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:42 < ybit> kanzure: uh.. 23:42 < ybit> http://bio.cc/Bioinformics/papers/ 23:42 < ybit> a lot of that is familiar looking 23:43 < kanzure> well it should 23:43 < kanzure> i put it there 23:43 < ybit> it looks like they are mirroring you? 23:43 < kanzure> they don't know they are mirroing me 23:43 < ybit> :P 23:43 < kanzure> *mirroring 23:43 < ybit> is there other stuff on their site which isn't on yours.. 23:43 < kanzure> everything in /Bioinformics/papers/ is me 23:43 < kanzure> everything else is who the feck knows 23:43 < ybit> wasn't there another site.. 23:44 < kanzure> (but not me) 23:44 < kanzure> there's lots 23:44 < ybit> er, dir 23:44 < ybit> on bio.cc 23:44 < ybit> perhaps tat was it 23:44 < ybit> s/tat/that 23:44 < ybit> the sata drive is up and running 23:44 < kanzure> glad to hear it 23:45 < ybit> i'm not sure what magical creatured entered it last night, but the machine recognizes it just fine 23:45 < ybit> grr at typos 23:51 < futuresoon> #theamericanpirateparty and #theamericanpirateparty-webdev 23:51 < futuresoon> adaptive political platform using genetic algorithms, condorcet voting, etc. 23:51 < futuresoon> reddit style deliberative fora 23:52 < futuresoon> they could even perhaps be convinced to put their weight behind something like SKDB? maybe? 23:52 < futuresoon> what little weight that is so far? 23:53 < ybit> maybe when then have weight 23:54 < futuresoon> interesting group of people i have to say 23:54 < kanzure> ybit: that made no sense 23:55 < ybit> i won't ask 23:55 < futuresoon> http://i.imgur.com/9bLjQ.png 23:55 < ybit> a friend and i were tossing around a p2p sys for the gov a few years ago, i just recently sat down to think it through again 23:55 < futuresoon> ybit: everybody has thought of this 23:55 < futuresoon> kanzure: and it *does* make sense 23:55 < ybit> every geek at least 23:56 < futuresoon> ybit: they're considering changing the party name to People's Front of Judea :-) 23:56 < futuresoon> as an ironic meta-commentary on the contentiousness of the name Pirate Party 23:56 < ybit> that's funny, but if they are changing it because they want to be taken seriously, bad choice 23:56 < futuresoon> well it's a monty python reference and the webdev team is all python 23:56 < ybit> right, and didn't know that 23:57 < futuresoon> also Open Party, Bull Moose Party, other possibilities 23:58 < futuresoon> i pitched Open Source Manufacturing (OSM - "awesome") Party 23:58 < ybit> open party ftw 23:58 < ybit> or free party 23:58 < futuresoon> there was some talk of American Party 23:58 < ybit> or freedom party? 23:58 < futuresoon> "because then the media would have to call us "The Americans"" 23:58 < ybit> that works 23:58 < ybit> haha, that's great 23:59 < futuresoon> net neutrality, an end to corporate personhood 23:59 < futuresoon> these are some of the rough outlines, but all that has to be hashed out 23:59 < futuresoon> and ultimately it'll be done something like this (if the plan comes off) 23:59 < futuresoon> you have deliberative forums, where people make issues to vote on