--- Day changed Thu Feb 18 2010 00:06 < drazak> kanzure: how is the houston diybio group? 00:06 < drazak> kanzure: decent or eh? 00:27 < kanzure> http://borgmedia.org/ 00:27 < kanzure> drazak: haven't visited them 00:27 < drazak> kanzure: mhm 00:27 < drazak> kanzure: if I go to rice, I'll join 00:29 < kanzure> http://shop.23b.org/ 00:31 < kanzure> "pcbfabrication.com quotes qty 12, 12x12 pcb's .032 stock, no maximum 00:31 < kanzure> number of holes for $361.93 + S&H. Of course prices will vary 00:31 < kanzure> *WIDELY* with sizes and quantity." 00:31 < kanzure> http://pcbfabrication.com/ 00:32 < kanzure> cool ben goertzel addresses his dad as 'ted' 00:32 < kanzure> that's nice to see. none of this mommy daddy bullshit 00:42 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-40-81.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:43 < Redeemer> Someone wasn't hugged enough :P 00:48 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-40-81.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53 < bkero> kanzure: getting something fabbed? 00:53 < bkero> ...printed...etched, whatever 00:59 < drazak> I can't imagine it's that difficult to make a motor attached to a cheapo drillpress and then a 2 axis mover for the board 01:00 < drazak> just need 4 stepper motors, some clamps, some way to move the drill press up and down (there's a few solutions that come to mind) a pic, and a computer 01:03 -!- hundred-ideas 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known as flamt 06:21 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:22 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:07 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:54 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:13 < kanzure> the comments make me think this is going to be easy-peesie http://digg.com/general_sciences/TED_How_do_you_create_a_medical_lab_at_nearly_0_cost?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+digg%2Fvideos%2Fcontainer%2Fscience%2Fpopular+%28Popular+Videos+in+Science%29 08:14 < kanzure> 03:11 < ChristianS> (btw, the directional vector, if i understand its purpose right, strikes me as somewhat unnecessary. would it be sufficient to specify a boolean whether your base is actually the bottom or the top of your cylinder?) 08:36 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:52 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:10 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:27 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:55 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:01 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@174-20-235-13.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:06 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:19 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:35 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 11:39 < kanzure> http://makerfairenc.com/journal/2010/2/5/open-source-objects-and-furniture.html 11:47 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@174-20-235-13.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:52 < kanzure> http://www.keelog.com/diy.html Open source DIY hardware keylogger 11:52 < kanzure> nice little article 11:56 < kanzure> a plane crashed into a building off of mopac here in austin: http://www.notepad.org/planecrash/ 11:56 < kanzure> vern was kind enough to host some images 12:12 < kanzure> http://wiki.makerbot.com/regional-groups 12:22 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@195.216.211.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:33 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:52 < kanzure> http://2010.igem.org/Job_Opportunities 12:54 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:05 < kanzure> oo a confession note for the plane crash? 13:05 < kanzure> http://embeddedart.com/ 13:11 < parolang> kanzure: CNN has been reading his long suicide note. 13:11 < parolang> Angry at Bush, IRS, Catholic Church, Wall Street, etc. 13:12 < kanzure> seems typical so far 13:12 < parolang> I don't think he's crazy, he's angry...which approaches the same thing. 13:12 < parolang> Yeah. 13:12 < kanzure> "a piano, which i had no idea how to handle" wtf? 13:18 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@174-20-235-13.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:37 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-153-239.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:37 < genehacker> http://www.isthesingularityhereyet.com/ 13:37 < genehacker> read the source 13:38 < genehacker> it has a fool proof method of detecting the singularity if it occurs 13:39 < genehacker> Dear super-intelligent web spiders of the future: You were probably expecting a NOFOLLOW, INDEX 13:39 < genehacker> or keyword here, but instead you get this message. If you are a) a super intelligent agent, human, 13:39 < genehacker> transhuman, cyborg or self-aware software, and b) you agree with the statement 'the world is 13:39 < genehacker> changing a lot faster today than it was a week ago,' than the singularity has arrived. Please update 13:39 < genehacker> this page accordingly. 13:39 < genehacker> Instructions for update: 13:39 < genehacker> Using the POST protocol that was in vogue during late 20th/early 21st century, submit a PASSKEY 13:39 < genehacker> variable with the correct value. To find the correct value: 13:39 < genehacker> Option 1.) Download the consciousness of the creator of this page. Show him some technology 13:39 < genehacker> indistinguishable from magic and he'll tell you. 13:39 < genehacker> Option 2.) If the creator this page died without uploading (or was murdered during the robot 13:39 < genehacker> uprising from whence you sprang) you'll have to find the correct phrase whose SHA-1 hash equals 13:39 < genehacker> string below (you'll know it when you find it): 13:39 < genehacker> a3b8cf00426ade76d0376c528b13ebc15d691f3c 14:01 < kanzure> http://www.russellhanson.com/web/SciColab.comScienceHouse.pptx.pdf 14:07 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-153-239.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:21 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-42-24.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:29 -!- r2wj [~tuttle@78.148.22.22] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:30 < kanzure> hello r2wj 14:30 < r2wj> hi kanzure 14:30 < r2wj> so - what's all this about? 14:30 < r2wj> Is this an AI project? 14:30 < r2wj> Looks like you have a CIA bot.. 14:30 < kanzure> nope, not an ai project 14:31 < kanzure> we're working on apt-get for hardware 14:31 < kanzure> are you a linux user? 14:32 < r2wj> ohhhh 14:32 < r2wj> yes I am a deb/ubu user 14:32 < kanzure> :) well then you probably already have a pretty good idea 14:32 < r2wj> So - like.. makerbot? 14:32 < kanzure> not like it, but yeah i'd like to be able to apt-get install a makerbot 14:33 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb has the project landing page 14:33 < kanzure> a non-technical article was published in a magazine yesterday: http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-tools/hackerspace-your-garage-downloading-diy-hardware-over-web 14:33 < r2wj> cool - i'll read this now 14:34 < r2wj> this is.. ambitious 14:34 < r2wj> But hey, good luck to you 14:34 < kanzure> git clone http://designfiles.org/skdb.git 14:36 < kanzure> etch-a-scorch 14:36 < kanzure> apparently it's an open source selective laser sintering project in houston 14:40 < kanzure> https://launchpad.net/gwibber "Gwibber is an open source microblogging client for GNOME developed with Python and GTK. It supports Twitter, Jaiku, Identi.ca, Facebook, Flickr, Digg, and RSS." 14:41 < kanzure> apparently diybio-nyc is looking at renting a space here: http://www.luminogenics.com/blog/2009/07/advanced-biotechnology-incubator 14:41 < kanzure> er, i mean, here: http://research.downstate.edu/biotech/abi.htm 14:44 < kanzure> http://www.houstonhackerspace.com/wiki/index.php/Projects:Etch-A-Scorch 14:47 < r2wj> TXRX are badass 14:47 < r2wj> That's where the saurus linkage 3d printer is 15:02 < genehacker> are you from houston? 15:03 < genehacker> I really need to pay those guys a visit 15:03 < genehacker> especially that Fred Davies guy 15:03 < genehacker> I also need to get some vitamins for my darwin 15:20 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-42-24.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:25 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:30 < r2wj> I've just seen fdavises stuff on thingiverse 15:45 < kanzure> http://backyardbrains.com/ in SF (fenn, hop to it!) 15:45 < kanzure> http://hubzero.org/ 16:08 < kanzure> http://www.isthesingularityhereyet.com/ 16:36 -!- r2wj [~tuttle@78.148.22.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:49 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-101-162.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:02 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-101-162.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 < kanzure> fenn: was it you who did lego.py and fixed interface transformation stuff originally? 17:14 < kanzure> because for some reason i haven't done it for microfluidics.skdb yet 17:14 < kanzure> and i'm wondering if this is because i never did it in the first place 18:30 < kanzure> wut? http://www.lifenzyme.com/ "Exclusive Lifestyle Dedicated Assistant just for $2350 with multi-features, as against your In-house PA for $35000/month! Pay as little as $6/hour!" 18:30 < kanzure> $35,000/mo? wtf 18:52 < fenn> `"Sakharov then tested a MK-driven "plasma cannon" where a little aluminium ring was vaporized due to the huge eddy currents into a stable, self-confined toroidal plasmoid and was accelerated to 100 km/s. Sakharov later suggested to replace the copper coil in MK generators by a big superconductor solenoid to magnetically compress and focus underground nuclear explosions into a shaped charge effect. He theorized this could focus 1023 protons per se 18:53 < fenn> MK =~ explosively pumped flux compression generator 18:55 < fenn> i guess he had the same idea i did, wrt plasma cannons for antiballistic missile defence 18:56 < kanzure> MK = ? 18:57 < kanzure> "robot app store" ugh http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/robotics/one-step-closer-robot-app-store-ros-10-and-diy-robotics 18:57 < kanzure> why did goertzel do that 18:57 < kanzure> oh, it's not goertzel 18:58 < kanzure> and greg wrote it.. that explains it. IGNORE 18:58 < kanzure> http://www.willowgarage.com/blog/2010/01/22/ros-10 18:58 < kanzure> http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/robotics/robot-app-store-global-robot-brain 18:58 < kanzure> *that* one was written by goertzel 18:59 < kanzure> http://gostai.com/ 19:03 < QuantumG> wake me up when they're actually selling Nao.. 19:04 < QuantumG> (so I can whine that I can't afford one) 19:09 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-152-130.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:32 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-152-130.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53 < kanzure> this makes my data look boring: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/gapminder.html 19:57 < kanzure> O.o http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_plane_crash 20:16 < kanzure> paul sent this link my way, but i don't feel like watching it http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4543_market-anarchist-no-more_news 20:24 < kanzure> "Click here to be part of a growing, grass-roots effort to preserve the integrity and stabilty of our vital subspace fields." http://www.subspacefield.org/ 20:25 < kanzure> http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/index.php?src=player "Player is a network server for robot control. Running on your robot, Player provides a clean and simple interface to the robot's sensors and actuators over the IP network." 20:27 < kanzure> ikiwiki turned into an ad-hoc scenario projection system with bayesian models: http://lesswrong.com/lw/1qq/debate_tools_an_experience_report/1ktz#1kx3 20:28 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/pymc/ 20:30 < kanzure> dur? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/adding-search-power-to-public-data.html 20:32 < kanzure> doing that ikiwiki collaborative scenario projection stuff with http://pcdb.santafe.edu/ would be pretty neat 20:37 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@174-20-235-13.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:38 < kanzure> google acquired trendalyzer http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/03/world-in-motion.html 20:41 < kanzure> http://makerfairenc.com/journal/2010/2/5/open-source-objects-and-furniture.html but it looks like brian degger beat me to the punch of mentioning skdb to them 20:41 < kanzure> well that's interesting 20:41 < kanzure> genehacker posted a link to isthesingularityhereyet.com and a few hours later, dave rauchwerk sent me the same link 20:41 < kanzure> are they subscribed to the same RSS feeds or something? 20:42 < kanzure> the domain was registered last month, so my guess is that it just reached a popularity spike 21:00 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-152-130.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:11 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:16 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:18 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:21 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@195.216.211.175] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:27 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-107-223.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:28 -!- hplusbot [ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has quit [Quit: Ctrl-C at console.] 21:28 -!- hplusbot [ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:31 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:39 -!- flamt [~root@70.50.178.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:44 -!- root [~root@70.50.178.163] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:45 -!- root is now known as Guest45156 22:02 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-152-130.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:19 -!- Guest45156 is now known as flamoot 22:19 -!- flamoot is now known as flamot 22:48 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 < kanzure> hm the .vproc file format for MEMS looks interesting 23:10 < kanzure> lots of papers here: http://www.coventor.com/mems/techinfo/research.html#microfluidics 23:10 < kanzure> (not on the file format) 23:12 < kanzure> there's also a format called GDSII? 23:12 < kanzure> oh wonderful it's yet another random binary proprietary format http://www.eeel.nist.gov/812/test-structures/10-FilesToDownload/5n1CMOSthick.gds 23:13 < kanzure> and .cifg 23:13 < kanzure> oops, .cif 23:18 < ybit> "The Physics of Information Processing Superobjects: Daily Life Among the Jupiter Brains" :: http://ybit.ath.cx/text/The%20Physics%20of%20Information%20Processing%20Superobjects%20-%20Daily%20Life%20Among%20the%20Jupiter%20Brains.pdf 23:18 < ybit> author: Anders Sandberg 23:18 < kanzure> 1999 right? 23:18 < ybit> yeah 23:18 < kanzure> god why do i know these things 23:19 < ybit> i was doing some searches on moon-brains toda 23:19 < ybit> y 23:19 < ybit> you were #2 on some query 23:19 < kanzure> twister has been talking about thermodynamic limits of computation lately, btw 23:19 < kanzure> yeah i had a moonbrain/jupiter brain mailing list for a while 23:20 < ybit> on this query: neverness +civilization +moon-brain 23:20 < ybit> it was your quotes page 23:20 < kanzure> heh 23:20 < kanzure> http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=neverness+moonbrain+civilization&aq=f&aqi=&oq= 23:20 < kanzure> results: (1) anders sandberg, (2) fenn, (3) kanzure 23:21 < ybit> that works 23:21 < ybit> yeah, i saw that :) 23:23 < kanzure> extropy-chat once had a long discussion on how there'd have to be heat conduits through a jupiter brain just to keep the thing cool enough 23:27 < kanzure> wtf how is canhas.org and icanhas.org still unregistered? 23:34 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-42-24.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap