--- Day changed Sat Mar 06 2010 00:00 < kanzure> "EmoEngine (TM)" 00:00 < kanzure> http://www.audiovisuel.be/epoc/Epoc_User_Manual_beta.pdf 00:05 < ybit2> sounds similar "everything is a filesystem" in plan 9 from bell labs 00:05 < ybit2> +to 00:05 < ybit2> re: 23:59 < kanzure> weird, the headset is a web server 00:38 < kanzure> CognitivGaussianTraining::runUnivCoordSelection 00:38 < kanzure> CognitivGaussianTraining::manova1Cov 00:38 < kanzure> Bartlett's statistic? 00:38 < kanzure> CognitivGaussianTraining::runPCA 00:38 < kanzure> huh, PCA :) 00:42 < kanzure> "EmoDongle" heh 02:00 < JayDugger> Do you suppose Instructables would trade me a pro account for editing services? 02:04 < kanzure> Murphy's (First) Corollary: Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first. 02:04 < kanzure> JayDugger: what's a pro account 02:13 < kanzure> oh boy, yet another mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/makerbot-dev 02:16 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-233-79.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:18 < kanzure> http://www.hackfromacave.com/projects.html bluetooth hacking/phreaking stuff 02:29 < kanzure> huh: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/573768/sentiment-analysis-for-twitter-in-python 03:01 < kanzure> whois alexander sotirov 03:01 < kanzure> and why did he turn up in my search for character frequency analysis 03:02 < kanzure> something about project honeynet? 04:14 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:19 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:27 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:28 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:58 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:07 -!- flamto [~root@CPE00222d1cc6d1-CM00222d1cc6cd.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:39 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.137.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:48 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:57 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.137.49] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.137.49] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:06 -!- thesnark [~michael@66.213.36.2] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:32 < kanzure> thesnark: http://etacts.com/ 09:34 < thesnark> so is 1kfriend.ly done then? 09:34 < kanzure> not really :) etacts.com is only one half of the equation 09:50 -!- thesnark [~michael@66.213.36.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:06 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.145.6] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:11 < kanzure> i have residual and significant skin damage from attempts at inserting the electrodes 10:14 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:15 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:22 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:14 < fenn> ew 11:15 < kanzure> the damage is to the fingers, not the scalp at least 11:16 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:16 < kanzure> the electrodes are made up of three parts- a metal layer, felt, and plastic keeping the felt and metal layer together 11:16 < kanzure> the plastic is circular of course, and has these plastic spikes on the side that are supposed to be helpful for "clicking" them into the slots on the headset 11:16 < kanzure> naturally, these spikes hurt 11:17 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.145.6] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17 < fenn> the part that touches skin is smooth? 11:20 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.145.6] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:22 < kanzure> fenn: when the headset is put together and on your head, only felt is touching your head 11:22 < kanzure> er, and two rubber "electrodes" or thingies 11:22 < kanzure> they store the electrodes in what they call a "hydrator pack" 11:23 < kanzure> which is just a way of storing the felt so that it doesn't dry out. they give you this little saline bottle to wet them so they don't irritate your skin for the inevitable 20-hour gaming sessions 11:23 < kanzure> so, their website is absolutely terrible, and so is their business model 11:24 < kanzure> they have different .dll files for people with different licenses 11:24 < kanzure> if you pay $1k, you get the .dll that has access to the raw EEG data 11:24 < kanzure> but otherwise, if you're an application developer or something, you have to use the dumbed-down .dll file 11:24 < kanzure> which makes no sense to me because someone can just get the .dll and upload it 11:25 < fenn> oh i didnt realize they were wet electrodes 11:25 < fenn> so did you get the super dll file? 11:26 < fenn> i'm actually really surprised there isn't a linux driver for it yet 11:29 < kanzure> working on it :) 11:31 < fenn> why did you pick epoc vs OCZ neural impulse actuator, or some other thing, or all of them? 11:35 < fenn> ok OCZ nia sucks, nevermind 11:45 < fenn> http://www.nada.kth.se/~asa/Texts/morphosis.html 11:46 < fenn> google swedish translation is surprisingly good 11:49 < fenn> "wearable remembrance agent" http://www.bradleyrhodes.com/Papers/wear-ra-personaltech/ 12:27 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:30 < fenn> Semikolon: have you been around here much? new nick perhaps? 12:30 < Semikolon> used to be branstrom 12:32 < fenn> i can't figure out why i'm procrastinating on making a wishlist of cool stuff i want 12:55 < Semikolon> fenn: There's no really great app for that? 13:22 < fenn> i'm going to use a spreadsheet 13:23 < fenn> i assume you were referring to http://xkcd.com/662/ 13:29 -!- thesnark [~michael@gft.dacor.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- thesnark [~michael@gft.dacor.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:52 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:18 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:24 < fenn> where was this when i was in school... http://kanjidamage.com/ 15:25 < genehacker> can you read kanji fenn? 15:30 < fenn> sorta not really 15:30 < fenn> i know maybe 300 15:31 < genehacker> dammit, so you can't translate Japanese papers for me.... 15:31 < fenn> i wouldnt anyway 15:32 < genehacker> speaking of japan did you see that fanuc robot factory video? 15:32 < genehacker> where they use robots to make robots? 15:33 < fenn> all lies 15:44 < fenn> omg this is all so true http://kanjidamage.com/tags 15:52 < fenn> huh i wouldnt have expected "spaceship earth" to be in the dictionary 15:56 < fenn> this is almost sorta like whuffie http://www.scripting.com/stories/2010/02/03/googlesTwowaySearchIsGoodF.html 16:36 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:43 < fenn> 甘党 - member of the candy party 16:43 < fenn> i'm going to get that tattooed on my face 16:46 -!- parolang` [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:56 < ybit> kanzure: of the ~12,020 links which you have posted in here, do you recall the recent link of some group to further synthetic biology? it's a collaboration effort between colleges and they have a neat acronym for a name 17:13 < klafka> biobits? bricksomething also 17:13 < klafka> biobricks 17:19 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:23 < ybit> biobits sounds like it, need to find the link to confirm 17:55 < kanzure> ybit: synthetic anesthetics? 17:55 < kanzure> bricklets? 17:55 < kanzure> how recent is recent 18:53 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34 < ybit> recent is this year 19:34 < ybit> linkage for biobits? 19:34 < ybit> bricklets maybe... 19:42 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06 < klafka> well biobricks is real 20:06 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06 < klafka> http://bbf.openwetware.org/ 20:07 < klafka> probably biobricks 20:12 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:28 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:42 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:44 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:20 < ybit> 1http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=503286&org=CISE&sel_org=CISE&from=fund 21:20 < ybit> http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=503286&org=CISE&sel_org=CISE&from=fund 21:20 < ybit> klafka: i've been aware of biobricks for awhile, it's related, but isn't what i was referring to, ended up just giving up on it 21:22 < ybit> hrm, this is vague: http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=503476&org=CISE&sel_org=CISE&from=fund 21:22 < klafka> ah 21:22 < klafka> a lot of nsf grants are 21:22 < klafka> they are usually really buzzwordy 21:23 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 21:31 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:41 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@w-mob400-128-62-218-70.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:51 < kanzure> klafka: yeah, the last NSF grant i was working under was super buzzword city 21:51 -!- any80927598 [~someone@75-120-1-62.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:51 < kanzure> we had a population over 9000 21:51 < Noahj> What 9000 21:52 < klafka> the most buzzwordy ones i saw were some of the cyberinfrastructure ones 21:53 < kanzure> yep that's what this was 21:53 < kanzure> it was called "virtual organization for innovative conceptual engineering design" under the cyberinfrastructure program 21:53 < klafka> hahaha 21:54 < kanzure> sadly i am not shitting you :( 21:54 < klafka> we looked at one i can't remember which, we ended up going with an NIH grant for that proposal cycle 21:54 < klafka> no i can completely believe that 21:54 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-39-106.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:58 < kanzure> my mom claims she has 90min REM cycles and does a full days work in her (ridiculously lucid) dreams 21:58 < kanzure> apparently she sleep walks, sleep talks, sleep types, and even sleep-breaks-up-with-men 22:17 < klafka> lol 22:23 -!- any80927598 is now known as katsmeow 22:35 < genehacker> so it's genetic then... 22:38 < kanzure> is it? 22:42 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 22:45 < kanzure> mom's twin in the upper left: http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/9200033/homepage/name/homepage.jpg?type=sn 22:49 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:52 < JayDugger> Good evening. 22:53 < kanzure> evening 23:05 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 23:08 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@w-mob400-128-62-218-70.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:10 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:18 -!- parolang` [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18 < JayDugger> Quitters. 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