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02:32 < Utopiah> http://wiki.genomequest.com/index.php/GenomeQuest_Documentation#Developer_API
02:46 < fenn> hmmm @ http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280484297586
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03:30 < TaoisticBeer> Hello people
03:33 < marainein> hi there
03:33 < marainein> an article published as a viewpoint is different from a literature review, right?
03:35 < TaoisticBeer> Depends on what the article is about.
03:35 < marainein> when could the two be the same?
03:36 < TaoisticBeer> If it's just a commentary piece then there's no real difference I guess...
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03:39 < TaoisticBeer> Why do you ask?
03:40 < marainein> just tampering with wikipedia
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04:03 < TaoisticBeer> Oh well
04:04 < TaoisticBeer> So I just learned how to tame my soviet microscope. What could I do with it?
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06:28 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/lic/source/checkout "LEGO Instruction Creator - create your own instruction books from your virtual LEGO models."
06:29 < kanzure> what did genehacker mean with "war on reprap"?
06:29 < Utopiah> http://usinette.org/ is reprapping lego , he also linked to ttp://reprapdelft.wordpress.com/
06:30 < kanzure> 01:16 < sbailard_> Forrest_Higgs, bre decided to write a little public accusation on the makerbot blog chewing out RepRap user-developer kimberly 
06:30 < kanzure>                    for being laggardly in not uploading her gen3 board variant a) sufficiently promptly, b) only in a .pdf format, rather than in 
06:30 < kanzure>                    a .propriatary_e_cad_format_she_figured_would_be_of_no_use_to_us.
06:30 < kanzure> 01:20 < Forrest_Higgs> lol!  no wonder Bre is squawking!  he doesn't want a lot of reprap boards on the market.  suppressed his sales.  :p
06:30 < kanzure> 01:21 < sbailard_> Well, bre is riding a tiger, trying to monetize reprap.
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06:33 < kanzure> and from lic: "So far, Lic can import any LDraw model, but its dynamic importer makes it easy to add an importer for any 3D file type, and create instructions for that model. A Lego Digital Designer (LDD) importer is coming soon. "
06:36 < kanzure> >
06:36 < kanzure> http://makezine.com/robotbuild/
06:37 < kanzure> Computer Company Started In Garage 30 Years Ago Now In Smaller Garage http://www.theonion.com/articles/computer-company-started-in-garage-30-years-ago-no,17124/
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07:30 < kanzure> hey reg_ 
07:33 < Utopiah> http://micro.seas.harvard.edu/
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07:34 < kanzure> hey splicer 
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09:06 < kanzure> hello hoboasa 
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09:14 < kanzure> http://blog.makerbot.com/2010/03/25/open-source-ethics-and-dead-end-derivatives/
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10:01 < kanzure> i posted that article to the groups: http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_frm/thread/4b30c35f1b409d27
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10:05 < kanzure> i think sebastien over-reacted. bre was in the clear, genehacker
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11:30 < kanzure> neato just got an email from someone working at http://www.wpafb.af.mil/afrl/711HPW/
11:31 < kanzure> http://www.wpafb.af.mil/afrl/711hpw/hpi.asp
11:32 < kanzure> "human performance sustainment"
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12:29 < splicer> hi kanzure
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12:31 < kanzure> anything new?
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12:47 < splicer> kanzure: nah
12:54 < kanzure> what the hell
12:54 < kanzure> hahah
12:54 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/papers/nanotech/JF2010_VisionariesCover.JPG
12:54 < kanzure> that cover feels like something out of the 50s
12:55 < kanzure> but look who's on it
12:57 < kanzure> hm http://www.crnano.org/bootstrap.htm
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13:08 < splicer> (the woman on the bottom may be vulcan) 
13:23 < kanzure> you should be appointed to the head of the vulcan outting committee. good job!
13:30 < fenn> an ebook reader with a crappy keyboard is "the future"?
13:31 < fenn> that cover doesn't make me want to read it
13:36 < kanzure> http://namcub.accela-labs.com/pics/information_content_per_word_in_phrack-first_4500_words.png
13:38 < kanzure> i think the cover is attempting to be "old school"
13:38 < kanzure> the headline font at the top hasn't been used except on scifi published in the 60s
13:38 < kanzure> and there's some filter effect on all of the photos 
13:40 < kanzure> script used to generate that last link: http://namcub.accela-labs.com/stories/markinf.py
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13:45 < kanzure> fenn: i think freitas might live near you?
13:48 < kanzure> third-party blog picked up eyebeam.org's "opening hardware" nonsense: http://electronic-geek.com/opening-hardware-at-eyebeam/
13:49 < kanzure> SKDB mentioned: http://2and2.blogs.experienceproject.com/280644.html
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14:12 < fenn> i wish people would stop naming their (non-laboratory) startup companies/shared space "* labs"
14:13 < kanzure> what if they do labwork in their shared space
14:14 < kanzure> also, i wish .net/mono fans would read stuff like this: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
14:19 < fenn> then i have no problem with it
14:19 < fenn> but it seems like if you actually had a lab, you wouldnt name it "master evil scientist labs" because people might get confused and think it's a startup company or something
14:20 < kanzure> so you should name it BioLogic Inc. and people will then be unconfused and know that it is a science lab?
14:22 < fenn> right
14:24 < kanzure> i am thinking about helping treadwell buy a laser cutter
14:25 < kanzure> it's $1.2k in the austin area. 25W, 12x12" bed
14:25 < kanzure> well, it's not really a cutter 
14:25 < kanzure> 25W can cut acrylic but not much else
14:26 < kanzure> onebay these go for about $1k but on the other hand there's (1) shipping and (2) you can't really examine it or play with it
14:26 < kanzure> *on ebay
14:35 < kanzure> lots of data: http://pidgin.im/survey/results/
14:35 < kanzure> monday-morning meeting scheduled with boingboing.net editor
14:35 < kanzure> anything in particular i should mention?
14:38 < kanzure> javascript notebook with ajax hooks to sympy: http://2.latest.sympy-gamma.appspot.com/nb/
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15:00 < kanzure> wtf is this http://orly.thingiverse.com/
15:01 < kanzure> deviverse? http://dev.thingiverse.com/
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15:28 < kanzure> upcoming commit has a bad name
15:28 < kanzure> or bad description
15:28 < CIA-55> skdb: kanzure * r 47de2e4 /clients/thingiverse.py: apt-get for thingiverse
15:28 < kanzure> please don't kill me
15:31 < kanzure> try with: python thingiverse.py thing:1483
15:31 < kanzure> or: python thingiverse.py 1483
15:33 < kanzure> les is showing up in under 5min. what do i tell him re: the $600 he wants from me for the austin hackerspace rent-a-space?
15:35 < Utopiah> http://www.displax.com/
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16:12 < fenn> what's the name of the calendar thingy where everyone throws up their weekly schedule and we all agree on a time?
16:12 < fenn> has a sort of goofy name
16:13 < kanzure> doodle
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16:16 < fenn> yes, thanks
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16:21 < fenn> what did you tell les?
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16:41 < fenn> "which file do you want to download?" what's the point of that? just get all that shit
16:42 < fenn> mkdir thingiverse-1483; wget blah
16:42 < fenn> and get the metadata too, dammit. what am i paying you for?
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17:30 < kanzure> fenn: his metadata sucks
17:30 < kanzure> *their metadata
17:30 < kanzure> or i guess i meant his=zach
17:30 < kanzure> *zach's
17:31 < kanzure> it actually went better with les than i expected it to
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17:57 < fenn> there's other metadata like author, description, that are actually useful
17:58 < fenn> or "uploader" in this case
18:00 < kanzure> okay okay. i'll do it
18:00 < kanzure> any ideas on how to improve the how-to-specify-a-package? thingid sucks
18:00 < kanzure> and there's no "packagized name"
18:00 < kanzure> er, unix name
18:01 < kanzure> fenn: aren't you our resident cory doctorow know-it-all? what should i mention when boingboing.net talks with me on monday
18:21 < fenn> "You agree not to use the Service in the design, development, production, or use of missiles or the design, development, production, stockpiling, or use of chemical or biological weapons."
18:22 < fenn> in addition to anything else that might be illegal
18:26 < kanzure> or useful
18:27 < kanzure> cool looks like we might get the $20k for the iphone app i've been working on 8)
18:28 < kanzure> diybio-seattle has put itself on the web: http://www.diybiosea.org/
18:36 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/8020/
18:37 < kanzure> http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/medical-robots/032510-swarm-of-bacteria-builds-tiny-pyramid?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IeeeSpectrum+%28IEEE+Spectrum%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
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18:52 < kanzure> thing:xxx is a terrible naming convention
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19:31 < kanzure> dan barry the astronaut posts to thingiverse? http://www.thingiverse.com/SingularityU
21:23 < kanzure> god damn it why does zach have to allow fucking unicode in package titles
21:23 < kanzure> the package name list is the equivalent of /list on a script kiddie's IRC server
21:23 < kanzure> "l@@k *BRIGHT FLASHING RED* <(. 0#14.)> :dancykirby:" and other crap
21:29 < fenn> omfg this is homework #1 for the class i signed up for in april: http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs229/ps1.pdf
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21:43 < kanzure> http://www.facesaerch.com/face/bryan+bishop
21:43 < kanzure> fenn: i think you could have just as easily signed up for a community college
21:47 < kanzure> i heart slashdot http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/0010246/Could-Colorblindness-Cure-Be-Morally-Wrong?art_pos=3
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21:49 < kanzure> this is neat re: cataracts surgery and UV detection: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1597242&cid=31635826
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21:54 < kanzure> oh boy, controversial article from hplusmagazine 
21:54 < kanzure> http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/0010246/Could-Colorblindness-Cure-Be-Morally-Wrong?art_pos=3
21:54 < kanzure> hrm, http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/bio/monkey-see-or-one-man%27s-fix-another%27s-enhancement but it doesn't load
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21:55 < kanzure> "All you Texans, come on out to Trinity University in San Antonio on Monday March 29, 2010. I'll be speaking about "Hijack The Singularity or The Future Must Be Post Scarcity or Not At All" as part of their Reality Hackers series"
21:55 < kanzure> kind of late notice ken! gah
22:23 < fenn> kanzure: i didnt enroll at stanford.. i'm taking the class at hacker dojo
22:44 < fenn> holy shit, free wifi everywhere in mountain view
22:45 < fenn> i almost feel like i'm living in the future
22:46 < QuantumG> in the future you wouldn't notice
23:20 < fenn> in the future i wouldnt have to open up a webpage before i'd be allowed to ssh anywhere
23:20 < QuantumG> ya
23:21 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ7wL4gIzCE  <- nice
23:21 < fenn> kanzure: could you point me to the wifi fingerprinting code? did you get it to work on linux ever?
23:26 < fenn> "DIY Genomics presentation and discussion by Melanie Swan and Raymond McCauley"
23:27 < fenn> i wonder if they will talk about anything i dont already know
23:27 < QuantumG> what do they go over?
23:27 < QuantumG> oh, you don't know
23:27 < fenn> it's tomorrow at 1pm
23:28 < fenn> i have too many maps in my pocket :\