--- Day changed Sat Apr 10 2010 00:11 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:30 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 01:11 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-229-186.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:11 < fenn> "it would be even more awesome if anyone in the non-assert pool gets to use *the other patents* in patent litigation cases against non-assert-pool members." NOOOOOooooooo.... 01:12 < fenn> count on having less time than you think 01:16 < fenn> i like the other lego screenshots 01:34 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:14d8:67dc:52c6:ef50] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:36 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:14d8:67dc:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:06 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-229-186.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:14d8:67dc:52c6:ef50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:55 -!- thesnark [~michael@ppp-69-221-2-29.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:53 < kanzure> stupid alarm clock 06:57 < kanzure> sudo apt-get install time machine 06:57 < kanzure> sudo apt-get install time machine 06:58 < kanzure> what am i paying you jerks for anyway? 07:34 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:36 -!- shepazu [~schepers@64.119.159.231] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:38 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:43 < nsh> noodles 07:47 -!- shepazu [~schepers@64.119.159.231] has quit [Quit: Core Breach] 07:47 -!- shepazu [~schepers@64.119.159.231] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:54 -!- thebwt [~thebwt@li44-117.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:54 -!- thebwt [~thebwt@li44-117.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- thebwt [~thebwt@li44-117.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:59 -!- thebwt [~thebwt@li44-117.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- thebwt [~thebwt@li44-117.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05 -!- thebwt [~thebwt@li44-117.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:29 -!- shepazu [~schepers@64.119.159.231] has quit [Quit: Core Breach] 08:29 -!- shepazu [~schepers@64.119.159.231] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 09:23 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:04 -!- Dustbin [~grumble@adsl-71-145-131-137.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:08 -!- Dustbin [~grumble@adsl-71-145-162-129.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:12 < quantumkat> jrayhawk, http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/patents.php 10:18 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- thesnark [~michael@ppp-69-221-2-29.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:52 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:57 < kanzure> fenn: looks like "open innovation network" is already doing that 10:57 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/patents.php 10:59 < kanzure> so, it looks like this is already in progress 10:59 < kanzure> it's a non-assert pool for open source software (especially linux) 11:49 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:33 < kanzure> stalk: keith bergelt 12:36 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Invention_Network 12:37 < kanzure> stalk: Jerry Rosenthal 12:40 < kanzure> stalk: Ed Schauweker phone:703-963-5238 12:48 < kanzure> video: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/144182 12:58 < kanzure> oh man. apparently i'm so unimportant that they hang me up every time i call: http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/contact.php 12:58 < kanzure> try it, phone:919-313-4902 13:01 < kanzure> http://openinventionnetwork.com/linux911contact.php "OIN is actively seeking to address problems that arise from patent trolls and industrial companies whose business models and 13:01 < kanzure> behaviors are antagonistic to Linux and true innovation. If your company is being victimized by any entity seeking to assert its 13:01 < kanzure> patent portfolio against Linux, please contact us so that we can aid you in your battle with these dark forces." 13:01 < Utopiah> What do the EFF and GNU think about them? 13:12 < kanzure> "The strength of the open source community to defend its own also has grown with time, something Keith likened to a sort of Moore's Law for the strength of FOSS. It's not just little guys or big guys who are involved now, but outfits of all sizes." 13:12 < kanzure> "the case for market based patent reform" http://keithbergelt.sys-con.com/node/1176556 13:14 < kanzure> "ScienceProgress.org reports that hundreds of NPEs have been formed, thousands of patent suits have been filed, and more than $5 billion has been invested in patent acquisitions by NPEs since 2003" ha ha 13:14 < kanzure> "This dynamic, in part, has triggered the rise of defensive patent pools such as Allied Security Trust (AST), RPX and Open Invention Network (OIN)" 13:14 < kanzure> http://www.alliedsecuritytrust.com/ 13:16 < kanzure> oh it was published on cnbc: http://www.cnbc.com/id/33656799 13:31 < fenn> OIN sucks if you aren't part of "The Linux System" 13:32 < fenn> it's hardly a "vote of no confidence" in the patent system 13:35 < nsh> NPE? 13:39 < kanzure> non-practicing entity aka patent troll 13:46 < kanzure> i hate how i ignore things :( joseph mentioned OIN to me a number of times 13:46 < kanzure> and even tried to introduce me to keith 13:46 < kanzure> hurrr 14:29 < nsh> who's keith and what's he do? 14:51 -!- ybit_ is now known as ybit 14:51 -!- ybit [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:51 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:30 < kanzure> nsh: i just linked to him multiple times 15:47 < kanzure> "Found Deceased WA - Mackenzie Cowell, 17, missing 2/9/10," 15:49 < kanzure> you're dead, mac 15:57 < kanzure> where did this FAQ come from? i guess nick bostrom: http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/FAQv21.pdf 15:59 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-122-195.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:10 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:14 < kanzure> why is a 5-axis cnc machine on singularityhub.com? http://singularityhub.com/2010/04/05/5-axis-robot-carves-metal-like-butter-video/#more-14509 17:14 < kanzure> i guess it's better than showing something else 17:14 < kanzure> i guess it's also kinda new to that crowd? 17:16 < kanzure> also i got that link through cchs (a melbourne, australia hackerspace), nice to see a hackerspace posting singularityhub.com news (or singularity* sites for that matter) 17:29 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:29 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- parolang` [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:18 -!- thesnark [~michael@adsl-69-214-158-193.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:20 < genehacker> it's robot porn 18:40 < kanzure> heh! :) http://www.sinister.com/ebooks/ 18:40 < kanzure> new pdf collection 18:45 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:49 < kanzure> budget details: http://www.nasa.gov/news/budget/index.html 18:55 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-122-195.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:56 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-122-195.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:06 < kanzure> gah they are calling george church "the picasso of DNA"? what about paul rothemund? 19:11 -!- shepazu [~schepers@64.119.159.231] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 19:35 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:36 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:36 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-122-195.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:17 < kanzure> thesnark: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1613856&cid=31804532 you should consider posting a reply describing your project 20:19 < thesnark> maybe when I'm not feeling extremely pessimistic 20:51 -!- parolang` [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09 -!- thesnark [~michael@adsl-69-214-158-193.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:22 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 21:29 < QuantumG> Paul Breed is 3d printing rocket motors 21:32 < kanzure> what's going on here? http://www.cs.washington.edu/orgs/student-affairs/gsc/history/2002-2003/holidayparty/gradskit.txt 21:33 < kanzure> hah! " Hello caffeine my old friend " 21:35 < kanzure> i haven't heard these guys in a long time, are they still alive? http://www.cs.washington.edu/orgs/student-affairs/cseband/ 21:54 < kanzure> fennbot: "leaden paralysis. The arms or legs feel heavy as though made of lead and difficult to move. inertia in starting any activity, generalised boredom" 22:16 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- ybit2 [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- ybit2 [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:49 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-45-124.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:49 < genehacker> that pdf collection sucks 23:49 < genehacker> some of the PDFs are about conspiracy stuff and some of them are complete garbage 23:50 < genehacker> better than nothing though