--- Day changed Tue Apr 13 2010 00:06 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-50-86.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:36 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:01 -!- randallagordon_ [~randallag@c-76-115-121-108.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-121-108.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:22 -!- fenn [~fenn@c-67-180-32-242.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:13 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:41 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:20 < Utopiah> The Design of Patent Pools: The Determinants of Licensing Rules", The RAND Journal of Economics, vol. 38, n. 3, 2007 http://idei.fr/display.php?a=7448 04:59 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.70.158] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.70.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:15 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@70.114.205.110] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:16 < kanzure> hackerspaces in space (via high-altitude air balloons) http://757labs.org/2010/04/757labs-updates/ 06:16 < kanzure> thailand's first hackerspace http://5mof.net/archive/2010/04/12/april-2010-schedule/ 06:34 -!- ybit_ [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:35 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:36 < ybit_> "We hope to have 2 membership levels: one that gives you the share of an office and another (reduced) membership that allows you to support the space and get all of the benefits besides dedicated space." 06:37 < ybit_> i'm guessing the reduced cost membership is for access to machinery 06:37 < ybit_> and whatever happens to be lying around not in an office 06:38 < ybit_> it kind of threw me off reading that after just having woke up 06:38 -!- ybit_ is now known as ybit 06:45 < kanzure> "The next shot was "tech town" a government-sponsored subsidized office complex with better branding. It screwed local real estate owners by offering ridiculously low rents in a market that's already overbuilt." 06:45 < kanzure> ybit: austin hackerspace is a hackerspace within a hackerspace. so.. their terms are kind of silly. 06:45 < kanzure> http://esrati.com/tech-town-or-techshop/4744/ 06:46 < ybit> that sounds similar to our situation 06:46 < ybit> we're a hackerspace within an art space 06:46 < ybit> or at least, we soon will be, renovations are still taking place 06:47 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-53-245.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:47 < kanzure> tons of comments on that blog 06:47 < kanzure> ybit: yes but "within an art space" isn't as blatant 06:47 < kanzure> also, wtf are you doing around 06:47 < kanzure> it's been like.. months. 06:47 < ybit> yah, kind of been busy, and it's set to get more hectic soon 06:48 < ybit> little time for irc 06:51 < kanzure> tool town in seattle: http://www.lostinseattle.com/LIS/homeimprovement/tooltown.html 06:55 < kanzure> dayton tech town: http://www.daytontechtown.com/ 07:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.69.84] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:13 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-53-245.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:48 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:49 < kanzure> "adafruit, arduin, gadget factory, jee labs, openpandora, reprap, These are open hardware, open source hardware, DIY hardware, self-replicating hardware, etc. projects. All very good things but not copyleft hardware." 07:49 < kanzure> "Copyleft hardware is commercial hardware, targeted to non-technical folks, people who want to have a life and are in no way clamoring for an opportunity to build their own electronic devices. Copyleft hardware really needs a good looking case. It's not do-it-yourself hardware, it's not for makers, it's for manufacturers." 07:50 < kanzure> "Copyleft hardware should not create the opportunity for you to make your own hardware, but for you to manufacture your own hardware and make money from it. For every hacking opportunity it creates, it should create two business opportunities." 07:57 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-57-170.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:58 < JayDugger> Google-fu weak...source of these quotes? 07:58 < kanzure> JayDugger: Wolfgang Spraul 07:58 < JayDugger> Private email? URL? 07:59 < kanzure> email to http://en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/developer 07:59 < kanzure> er, i mean, it was an email to developer@lists.qi-hardware.com 07:59 < JayDugger> Hmm...another toy...I feel too tired for excitement. :) 08:16 < JayDugger> OTOH, I sure could use a pocket router. 08:31 < ybit> http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi/ 08:31 < ybit> interesting map on the page 08:43 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.69.84] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:43 < kanzure> i got spammed by matweb.com today asking me to order a free CD from them with various papers related to a recent COMSOL conference 08:43 < kanzure> http://www.comsol.com/activity/us_matweb_apr10/1 08:49 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-57-170.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:00 -!- anthonyl [~anthonyl@208-78-67-234-rangeroamerinc.clt.ord.sparkplugbb.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:07 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:07 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:10 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:13 < kanzure> how to hack toy EEGs http://ericmika.com/itp/brain-hack 09:17 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:17 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:24 < JayDugger> Good night, all. 09:24 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:38 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:52 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:12 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@70.114.205.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:32 < gnusha> we will have a goon at http://www.rfidjournalevents.com/live/ 10:33 < gnusha> what should this goon be doing? 10:51 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:07 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:53 < gnusha> designfiles.org is 11:53 < gnusha> 146.6.88.45 11:59 < gnusha> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Nils Hitze wrote: 11:59 < gnusha> > Thx for the Link, im so totally in love with your project. 11:59 < gnusha> > 11:59 < gnusha> > If you have time in October, would you like to come down to Munich, Germany to 11:59 < gnusha> > talk about it at NerdCamp? It isn't fixed right now, but it will be a 11:59 < gnusha> > Week of Nerdism around the 10th of October (you know 101010 = 42 = the 11:59 < gnusha> > answer to life, universe, etc) 11:59 < gnusha> > 12:08 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-172-129.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:35 -!- hoboasa [~asa@adsl-99-63-251-108.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 13:05 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:22 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-172-129.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:33 < gnusha> "quantum dots injected into the brain, they would take a photonic signal and downshift it into the microwave to get a readable signal with a fractal planar antennae array to put on the scalp, without the risk for infection with wire going into the brain, or a problem with infrared with losing the signal withiin millimeters. Downshifting of heat energy into signals into a sheet of paper that had printed the antennas on them." 13:48 -!- ybit_ [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- ybit [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:09 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:09 < Utopiah> wearable computer, summer edition http://fukung.net/v/27165/7e125dd8ad4055c1f06f83a67eb73eac.jpg 14:10 -!- ybit_ [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:11 < hundred-ideas> interesting and opinionated roadmap for stack exchange 2.0: http://blog.stackexchange.com/post/518474918/stack-exchange-2-0 14:16 < hundred-ideas> Ah, there's a open-sourcy stack exchange clone, too. interesting: http://shapado.com/ 14:30 < Utopiah> http://www.cap-idea.com/ deploy capital in the form of "Growth Debt" 14:34 < fenn> why isnt dyndns updating? isnt that what it's supposed to do? 14:35 < QuantumG> so fenn, wearable computers, does anyone make em and sell em yet? 14:36 < fenn> no 14:36 < fenn> there's some military crap but i dont think it counts 14:36 < QuantumG> there's "wearable" keyboards out there though right? 14:36 < fenn> yes-ish 14:36 < fenn> not like what i want though 14:37 < QuantumG> yeah.. I was thinking the other day about forgoing the whole display issue 14:37 < fenn> i dont really get why there isn't an audio-only OS 14:37 < QuantumG> being that blind people have accessibility, maybe that's the way to go. 14:37 < fenn> unix style 14:40 < QuantumG> ok, another idea, are any of these wearable keyboard bluetooth enabled? 14:40 < QuantumG> .. cause mobile phones are the closest thing to wearable computers today 14:40 < gnusha> fenn: adl.serveftp.org is updated. 14:41 < fenn> haha "bfb 3000" costs $3000 http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/13/bits-from-bytes-new-3d-printer-extrudes-with-the-best-of-em/ 14:41 < fenn> QuantumG: ya i know, it sucks ok, what do you want me to do about it? 14:41 < QuantumG> just answer my question, if you know :) 14:42 < fenn> i havent really looked into what's available because i'm allergic to bullshit 14:51 -!- fenn [~fenn@c-67-180-32-242.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 14:52 -!- fenn [fenn@146.6.88.45] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:01 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-120-64.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:02 -!- anthonyl [~anthonyl@208-78-67-234-rangeroamerinc.clt.ord.sparkplugbb.net] has left #hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 15:08 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-120-64.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:25 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-40-221.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:27 < fenn> hm future shock.. apparently blu-ray writers exist now? 15:57 < fenn> i shall walk to noisebridge today 15:57 < gnusha> with a bucket of ice cream? 15:58 < fenn> i wish 15:58 < fenn> there's still a couple peep sushi left 15:58 < fenn> i'm all peeped out tho 15:59 < gnusha> http://bit.ly/structory 15:59 < gnusha> 80/20 afficienandfdif-dos, please take 16:00 < gnusha> i was also thinking of asking if they have bought/known-about MakerBeam, Contraptor, OpenStructures, MicroRAX, Bosch Rexroth beam, maytec, XBeams, MiniTec, GridBeam, Unistrut, Telespar, Matrix / Box Beam, etc. 16:00 < fenn> what is the point of this survey? 16:01 < gnusha> i collect your data and get to convince 80/20 Inc. of various things 16:01 * gnusha heads over to the hackerspace 16:02 * fenn races 16:02 < fenn> i dont think this is a very fair race 16:02 < fenn> wah! 16:23 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:24 -!- kanzure [bryan@146.6.88.45] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:28 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:33 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 16:34 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-40-221.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:36 < kanzure> please join #austinhackerspace for meeting notes 16:39 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:39 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:40 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:50 < fenn> my friend peretz just found out he has a failed liver 16:50 < kanzure> if i find him a good liver, what then? 16:50 < fenn> has to be compatible 16:59 < Semikolon> fenn ? failed? 17:01 < fenn> that's all i know 17:01 < fenn> he's been sick for five days 17:02 < Semikolon> That's not good. :( 17:16 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:24 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:12 -!- jmx|earth [~jm@p57B9F971.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:38 -!- hoboasa [~asa@adsl-99-172-4-232.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:05 < fenn> http://tinyurl.com/fjarbalden 19:08 < JayDugger> Neat. 19:31 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-36-212.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:04 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:27 -!- ybit2 [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:48 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/chats/2010-04-13_austinhackerspace.log 20:51 < kanzure> my arms hurt 20:52 < katsmeow-afk> i wondered why you were flapping them wildly 20:53 < QuantumG> he just flew in from austin? 20:53 < katsmeow-afk> it was only a dream 21:04 < kanzure> i'd correct both of you, but i have lost feeling in my forearms 21:09 < kanzure> 19:20 < kanzure> "Who wants the task of taking the minutes?" 21:09 < kanzure> 19:21 < kanzure> >_< 21:10 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 21:22 -!- any99082539 [~someone@75-120-40-131.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:25 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-40-131.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:31 < kanzure> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/evildoers_nyc_own_superheroes_beware_C07qjscAB2eh34P1CsUOCO#ixzz0kz45tGWj 22:05 -!- any99082539 is now known as katsmeow-afk 22:19 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:20 < fenn> hum. 31 minutes to go on the reprap part.. means i have to stay in sf again 23:21 < fenn> it'd be cool to mount this IR thermometer on the reprap somehow so it could build up a temperature map