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00:00 < genehacker> ok so I can't do nanoscale
00:02 < genehacker> oh crap, bush robots are amazing
00:04 < genehacker> hmmmm... I guess we don't have microscale placement ability that works good enough yet
00:04 < fenn> you don't need nanoscale for bush robots to be useful
00:05 < fenn> anyway, read rocheworld, or not.
00:05 < genehacker> sounds pretty cool from technovelogy
00:05 < genehacker> anyway do we have the computational power to control them?
00:06 < fenn> depends
00:06 < fenn> engineering is a series of tradeoffs
00:07 < genehacker> also I'd like to introduce additional degrees of freedom by using tentacles
00:08 < genehacker> because tentacles are easier to fabricate than balljoints
00:10 < fenn> yeah, just keep making words on the screen ok
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00:36 < fenn> stalk garth minette
00:40 < fenn> and tor amundson?
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07:05 < kanzure> misumi beams?
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08:07 < JayDugger> Misumi: press dies and plastic molds.
08:07 < JayDugger> Lots of componenets...
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09:19 < egeste> chupacabra: 
09:19 < egeste> hello
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09:47 < gnusha> http://giulioprisco.blogspot.com/2010/04/telexlr8-anders-sandberg-on-neuroselves.html
09:48 < chupacabra> yo
10:14 < gnusha> hmm http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/libvalidator.git/plain/README.txt
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13:38 < ferrouswheel> A day late to the exchange in my log, but I'm in the "whatever embodiment suites at the time" camp.
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16:18 < kanzure> http://diybio.org/survey/
16:18 < kanzure> the first two pages seem to be about finances, and i haven't bothered to look past them yet
16:19 < kanzure> http://appv3.sgizmo.com/testsurvey/survey?id=278246&crc=170b2f3b2933d6c30fa86a8c0300dc02
16:22 < kanzure> heh it's too bad i'm not more paranoid or more into conspiracy theories
16:22 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/diybio-hifive
16:24 < heath> wuh?
16:24 < heath> whois hifive?
16:24  * heath visits with the niece and calls it a night
16:25 < fenn> is that like "majestic twelve"?
16:26 < kanzure> fenn: what was your brother giving you "the talk" on?
16:26 < fenn> the "get a job by the end of the week" talk
16:26 < kanzure> "by the end of the week"?
16:26 < kanzure> aren't i already paying you
16:27 < fenn> well, no, actually
16:27 < kanzure> uh. /me checks paypal
16:27 < fenn> anyway, minimum rent for "a room" in these parts is like $800
16:28 < fenn> but i would be happy with a life support chamber really
16:28 < fenn> wtf why doesn't SF have capsule hotels?
16:28 < kanzure> i pitched to capitalfactory.com the other day
16:29 < fenn> they could make a huge fuckin beehive and solve the homeless problem overnight
16:29 < kanzure> and it's been a long time coming, but i am now "officially" annoyed with how startups are more about excitement generation
16:29 < kanzure> so, i'm thinking about making an excitement pyramid scheme
16:29 < kanzure> i'm super excited about it
16:30 < fenn> i'm thinking about working on a farm with WWOOF and learning jquery while i sell reprap parts on ebay
16:30 < fenn> s/jquery/whatever/
16:32 < fenn> the whole concept of charging 10x my food and utilities costs for cubic volume is just bugging me
16:32 < kanzure> didn't you have free rent with me
16:32 < fenn> i dunno, did i?
16:33 < fenn> i think i skipped the first and last month
16:33 < fenn> IOU $1K
16:33 < fenn> happy?
16:33 < kanzure> why do you owe me anything
16:33 < fenn> because i occupied valuable acreage in your closet
16:34 < fenn> time*area = money
16:34 < kanzure> that goes for a premium!
16:34 < kanzure> wtf those units make no sense
16:34 < kanzure> anyway, why would you pay when you have no rent here?
16:34 < kanzure> i know sf is very attractive, but you could do work here in the hackerspace now
16:35 < fenn> i've thought about it and don't want to go backwards
16:36 < fenn> and, you're boring, sorry :(
16:36 < kanzure> it's true
16:36 < fenn> i'm working on treating my fun deficiency syndrome, so austin would be medically disadvised
16:37 < fenn> i dont understand why none of the 50 people I gave my card to have written back
16:37 < kanzure> there's like a 1% response rate with business cards
16:38 < fenn> wtf that's worse than spam
16:40 < kanzure> i failed at buying food coloring dye
16:40 < kanzure> i went into hobby lobby for food coloring and came out with oil pastels
16:41  * kanzure must not understand shopping?
16:42 < fenn> should have gotten watercolors, at least that's the right solvent base
16:43 < kanzure> what the hell are water colors
16:43 < fenn> water soluble pigments
16:43 < nsh> tape a viagra pill to your business  card
16:43 < nsh> problem solved.
16:43 < fenn> er.. i think that might be sending the wrong message
16:43 < kanzure> the message is "try my product!"
16:44 < fenn> http://belfry.com/ <- last guy i gave my card to
16:44 < QuantumG> somehow I got on an unmanaged mailing list.. and every day someone says "can you people stop emailing me?"
16:45 < fenn> is it you?
16:45 < QuantumG> 1. yes it'd be nice if it was a proper listserv   2. learn to use your mail program
16:46 < fenn> genehacker: did you ever do anything with those reprap parts? how many are there (what percent complete) and what else do you have if anything?
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17:23 < QuantumG> http://www.nasa.gov/mp4/445566main_NE00@Robonaut2.mp4
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17:23 < QuantumG> woah.. look at how articulate those hands are
18:06 < fenn> why does [austin-hacker-space] not do threading right?
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18:09 < fenn> oh oops nm, i accidentally turned off threading
18:35 < kanzure> cool, andrew knows the cto of autodesk
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19:06 < kanzure> dear mac cowell: etienne isn't a troll or retarded, just french.
19:06 < kanzure> :D
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19:13 < kanzure> "
19:13 < kanzure> "FYI, "the DIYBio group" was recently mentioned positively in the Lux
19:13 < kanzure> research venture capital report and on their biotech investment
19:13 < kanzure> webinar.  Email me for a PDF.  Notable quote is below.  I remember only
19:13 < kanzure> a few times when such interest was shown by investors directly in a
19:13 < kanzure> "internet group".  It's good!  Keep doing whatever you're doing..  I
19:13 < kanzure> know I will be :-D "
19:15 < kanzure> dear lazyweb, should i watch this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smartest_Guys_in_the_Room
19:16 < kanzure> oh look i'm on cnczone http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=765127
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19:37 < fenn> lol http://groups.csail.mit.edu/uid/sikuli/index.shtml
19:37 < fenn> uses opencv
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19:50 < JayDugger> What about misumi beams?
19:53 < kanzure> http://savetheactlab.com/ hm
19:57 < JayDugger> What does ACT stand for?
20:03 < fenn> ACT stands for "theatre people"
20:03 < JayDugger> :)
20:03 < fenn> what is a misumi beam?
20:04 < JayDugger> http://www.misumi-ec.com/esgpen/mech/
20:04 < JayDugger> http://www.misumi-ec.com/esgpen/, rather.
20:04 < JayDugger> From kanzure's earlier comment. 
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22:22 < fenn> this is a rather confusing table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-v_budget#Earth.E2.80.93Moon_space
22:23 < fenn> the network diagram works a lot better, but the lengths arent to scale
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23:31 < fenn> hmm. SPEC, the Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation http://spec.org  well it's a cool name at least
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23:47 < fenn> dammit i need a clone
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