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00:13 < heath> thanks Utopiah
00:13 < heath> that wasn't what i was looking for but it kicks arse
00:42 < Utopiah> glad I was wrong then
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02:14 < fenn> omg ubuntu wants to download 1.2GB of packages
02:16 < fenn> 1961 packages
02:16 < fenn> half of which i've never heard of or don't care about at lal
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05:49  * kanzure wonders how thesnark and jaydugger have never heard of openscad
05:49 < kanzure> anyway, i'd be willing to throw money at a programmer for openscad if someone would implement a .step output
05:53 < kanzure> "defensive patent license" "a GPL-like non-agression pact for patents"
05:53 < kanzure> "fair trolls"
05:54 < kanzure> http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/dpl-and-fair-troll-business-model-make.html
06:02 < kanzure> http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.0888 "Title: Global Strong Solutions of the Boltzmann Equation without Angular Cut-off"
06:03 < kanzure> re: defensive patent license, http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/05/18/1854257/Fair-Trolls-To-Fight-Patents-With-Patents?art_pos=16
06:06 < Utopiah> dnt they have a homepage or sth?
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06:35 < kanzure> another article: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/will-defensive-patent-license-be-able.html
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08:37 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: did you get my email about the ticket to h+ summit?
08:38 < hundred-ideas> I did, I
08:38 < hundred-ideas> 'm 
08:39 < hundred-ideas> I did, I'm swamped right now, and need to followup with an email I sent to Todd Huffman regard the same thing
08:39 < kanzure> ah, glad to see you getting along with todd
08:45 < hundred-ideas> yeah
08:45 < hundred-ideas> ok
08:46 < hundred-ideas> thanks for arranging for the ticket.  Between you and todd I think I'll be covered.
08:47 < kanzure> er i need to know if you want to actually take it
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12:36 < kristianpaul> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10089419.stm
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13:44 < jrayhawk> That DPL thing looks far less useful than that IBM lawyer guy's plan.
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15:23 < kanzure> "Why would a DNA profile be needed for the dieting tips an average college-aged person would find useful or informative? Is there some sub-set of the population for whom broccoli is a deadly poison and deep-fried cheese is the key to eternal youth? "
15:24 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League_nude_posture_photos
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16:33 < kanzure> http://opensciencefund.org/2010/05/19/diybio-shirt-design-contest/
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17:35 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
17:36 < klafka> that ivy league nude posture photos thing is weird
17:57 < kanzure> "Is there anything that Linux with a GUI does well besides suck?"
17:57 < kanzure> "Yes, if you can track down the ACPI drivers for the fans."
17:58 < klafka> haha
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18:01 < JayDugger> :)
18:11 < QuantumG> XChat > text based irc clients
18:11 < QuantumG> anyone going to ISDC?
18:12 < JayDugger> Unfortunately not.
18:12 < JayDugger> If you go, please ask JP Aerospace about their 3d printed engine.
18:12 < QuantumG> you mean Paul Breed?
18:12 < QuantumG> or does JP have one too?
18:13 < JayDugger> Ah...let me check...you might have that right.
18:13 < kanzure> i might go. i have money laying around.
18:13 < kanzure> is it worth it?
18:13 < QuantumG> what do you want me to ask?
18:13 < QuantumG> kanzure: it's 5 days of space nerds
18:14 < JayDugger> Paul Breed, you're right; I'm wrong.
18:15 < QuantumG> I'll probably already ask: how big is it and how much did it cost?
18:15 < JayDugger> If you still think of Blue Origin as an employer, kanzure, then an industry conference makes sense.
18:15 < JayDugger> As entertainment? YMMV.
18:19 < JayDugger> US$180 + travel + lodging
18:19 < JayDugger> Chicago's nice, and well worth the visit.
18:20 < JayDugger> ISDC has a good speaker's list this year. http://isdc.nss.org/2010/
18:22 < JayDugger> Freeman Dyson, James Dewar, Peter Diamandis, Bolden & Garver (NASA Admins), Keith Lofstrom (server-sky, Launch Loop), Nield (FAA OCST), Marc Millis (NASA BPP), Gold (Bigelow Aerospace), and Aldrin.
18:23 < JayDugger> Good for your meetlog, if nothing else.
18:23 < JayDugger> Do you plan to go, QuantumG?
18:23 < QuantumG> yeah
18:24 < QuantumG> I've reading Dewar's latest book now.. I probably wont go to his talk because I'm pretty disappointed that anyone actually let him publish it :)
18:24 < QuantumG> editor, hire one next time
18:24 < JayDugger> Yeah...I was pretty nonplussed by the review on Fourmilab.
18:25 < JayDugger> http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2009-10/001191.html
18:25 < JayDugger> Still, I did like "To The End of the Solar System."
18:25 < JayDugger> http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/reading_list/?book=632
18:25 < QuantumG> me too
18:26 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/emcfab/ "This project aims to create a rapid prototyping machine using standard 3-axis mill controller and hardware. "
18:26 < kanzure> they use pythonocc
18:29 < JayDugger> QuantumG, who do you plan to see at ISDC?
18:29 < QuantumG> I plan to get the schedule at registration then go through and mark everyone I really wanna see then fill in the gaps with whoever looks interesting :)
18:30 < QuantumG> and, if possible, avoid everyone who I'd rather punch in the face than listen to
18:30 < JayDugger> Skipping Dr. Zubrin, are you?
18:31 < QuantumG> :)
18:31 < QuantumG> and Doc Horowitz
18:32 < JayDugger> Oh, right. ATK's shill.
18:33 < JayDugger> s/shill/Lobbyist, beg pardon.
18:33 < QuantumG> ya
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19:56 < kanzure> hello Alystair 
19:58 < Alystair> hullo
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20:29 < kanzure> hello ferric 
20:29 < ferric> ping
20:29 < kanzure> pong
20:35 < Alystair> so, how about that Scala eh
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21:10 < fenn> i don't recommend "upgrading" to lucid
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22:00 < kanzure> http://singinst.org/theuncertainfuture.html
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23:28 < fenn> http://sunpluto.net/images/inefable.jpg
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