--- Day changed Sat May 29 2010 00:00 < JayDugger> You've my attention: what could possibly improve them? Batter-fried and dipped in powdered sugar? 00:00 < fenn> you want to cut them in half, drench in salt/pepper/olive oil, then broil face-down on a cookie sheet 00:00 < JayDugger> Hmm... 00:00 < fenn> romano cheese on top is good too 00:01 < fenn> who the fuck thinks boiling vegetables is a good idea? really 00:01 < JayDugger> Waste of good cheese, I suspect, but I will put them on probation based on your recommendation. 00:02 < fenn> broccoli-like vegetables only get gross when overcooked 00:02 < JayDugger> Yup. Good raw, though. 00:02 < JayDugger> Have you uploaded more video in the last few days, fenn? 00:03 < fenn> no 00:03 * fenn looks over his logs 00:03 < genehacker> gadolinium energy cell 00:03 < genehacker> gadolinium energy cell? 00:04 < genehacker> never heard of that one 00:04 < JayDugger> hang on...I've probably misspelled it. 00:04 < genehacker> as in gadolinium curie effect heat engine? 00:04 < genehacker> oh freitas 00:05 < JayDugger> http://www.nanomedicine.com/NMI/6.3.7.1.htm 00:07 < fenn> i'd settle for a methanol powered laptop at this point 00:07 < genehacker> nuclear powered nanobots sounds like a bad idea 00:07 < JayDugger> Sissy. 00:08 < genehacker> the radiation might degrade their mechanisms pretty fast 00:08 < JayDugger> That might happen. 00:08 < Utopiah> (Strategy Markup Language (StratML) http://xml.gov/stratml/ XML vocabulary and schema for strategic plans.) 00:08 < genehacker> you should go with ethanol powered fenn, as ethanol can be purchased at local stores 00:08 < JayDugger> I'll worry about that problem when testable hardware exists. No sense arguing about the economics of paper airplanes. 00:09 < JayDugger> Utopiah--how on earth did you find that link? 00:09 < JayDugger> I had no idea such a thing existed. 00:09 < Utopiah> glad I shared it then 00:09 < genehacker> whoa 00:09 < JayDugger> Oh, yes. Thank you. 00:09 < genehacker> that's neat 00:10 < genehacker> a programming language for foreign relations? 00:10 < genehacker> err government? 00:11 < genehacker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-ethanol_fuel_cell 00:11 < genehacker> vodka powered laptop! 00:11 < genehacker> oh wait max power of 1.5 watts 00:11 < Utopiah> (added it to http://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/ProgrammingForPeace ) 00:12 < JayDugger> I'd rather have a method to exactly describe strategies and tactics. 00:12 < JayDugger> That seems useful, ultimately, for wargames. 00:14 < genehacker> can one use it to automate military strategy and make skynet? 00:14 < flamt_> who is this 00:16 < genehacker> I think I don't understand strategic markup language... 00:16 < Utopiah> JayDugger: saw any research based on StarCraft, Warcraft, Chess, Go, ... recorded games? 00:16 < genehacker> time to sleep 00:16 < fenn> genehacker: all ethanol has a zillion percent tax or methanol added to it anyway 00:16 < JayDugger> I once saw a paper or lecture out of MIT that discussed Civilization. It had more to say about players, its consuming appeal, and its storyline. 00:17 < fenn> methanol is a decomposition product of wood or grass or whatever 00:17 < fenn> don't even have to ferment anything 00:17 < JayDugger> I haven't searched, though. 00:17 < fenn> but i'd hope it would accept either form of fuel 00:17 < genehacker> ethanol is ubiquitous in urban environs 00:17 < fenn> also methanol has more hydrogen, which is what you're after (they just dump the carbon overboard i think) 00:18 < genehacker> into the air? 00:18 < fenn> yep 00:18 < genehacker> well then that sounds like a good reason to go with methanol 00:20 < fenn> i'm kinda surprised nobody's bioengineered a bug to take fat and turn it into hydrogen 00:20 < fenn> or sugar 00:20 < fenn> or whatever 00:20 < fenn> not-sunlight 00:20 < genehacker> they're doing that except with electricity 00:20 < fenn> o rly 00:20 < genehacker> yes 00:21 < fenn> link 00:21 < fenn> damn these are good brussel sprouts, i might have to start buying them 00:22 < genehacker> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/coal-oil-gas/fuel-from-synthetic-microbes 00:22 < Utopiah> buying? you can rent brussel sprouts now? 00:22 * Utopiah is so 2000 00:22 < fenn> Utopiah: i found them in the big blue donation box behind the store 00:22 < genehacker> oops that was biofuel not hdyrogen 00:22 < Utopiah> ah ok 00:23 < genehacker> http://www.wired.com/cars/energy/news/2007/11/hydrogen_bacteria 00:23 -!- flamt_ [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:24 < fenn> they should be converting methane into gasoline.. the fools! 00:24 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:26 < fenn> i doubt you even need bacteria to do that 00:27 < fenn> just thermal polymerization 00:27 < fenn> it works for carbon nanotubes, why not gasoline 00:30 < fenn> if i spent half as much time working on my projects as i do yammering in here i might actually get somewhere 00:30 < flamt> that just isn't true 00:31 -!- shepazu [~schepers@83.101.33.210] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:32 < fenn> genehacker: i thought you meant bug to take fat and turn it into electricity 00:32 < fenn> that would have been cool 00:33 < flamt> albeit redundant 00:33 < JayDugger> Go get to work, fenn. 00:34 < JayDugger> Try C-q, or the like. :) 00:34 < genehacker> they do that fenn 00:35 < genehacker> it can be done in the prescence of a catalyst 00:35 < genehacker> efficiency is an issue though... 00:35 < genehacker> electrically powered bacteria might be more efficient 00:37 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:38 < genehacker> http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/05/japan-plans-22-billion-robotic-moon.html 00:38 < JayDugger> yeah, sure... 00:38 < JayDugger> I'll believe it when I see it. 00:38 < JayDugger> Hope they do it, though. 00:39 < genehacker> the japanese just deployed the world's first solar sail sucessfully on a probe headed to venus carrying pictures of an anime character on it 00:39 < JayDugger> Yes, that is pretty cool. 00:40 < genehacker> well not on the venus probe but with it 00:40 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 < fenn> genehacker: the point is to make electricity to power a laptop... sigh 00:42 < genehacker> microturbine if we could get it to work... 00:43 < genehacker> microturbines can be made out of materials that can withstand higher temperatures, so you can get more efficient thermal energy conversion 00:45 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:47 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. Time to work. 00:57 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:59 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:04 < Utopiah> http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/news-as-cyberpunk/british-researcher-becomes-infected-with-computer-virus/ 01:09 -!- shepazutoo [~schepers@83.101.33.210] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:11 -!- shepazu [~schepers@83.101.33.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:14 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:14 < fenn> i forget where this link came from (hopefully not here, if so i'm sorry) but aggressive flying robots are cool! http://youtube.com/watch?v=MvRTALJp8DM 01:15 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:15 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:19 < genehacker> saw that, that is the coolest thing ever 01:19 < genehacker> combine with flash lidar and bam, no need for 24 camera motion capture system 01:22 < Utopiah> http://micro.seas.harvard.edu/ is nice to but I dont think they are aiming for the same thing 01:24 < Utopiah> (4 days old , just in cast http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/neuro/porting-digital-memory ) 01:25 < Utopiah> fenn: is there actually a DB of the link we posted here so that we could query it before posting, just to avoid dupes 01:25 < fenn> yes but i'm not sure it's that useful 01:26 < Utopiah> guess I could just /alias /exec grep $mylink /path/to/daily/dl-ed/hplus.log 01:26 * fenn pokes the logbot 01:27 < fenn> genehacker can we squeeze flash lidar and processing system on a quadcopter yet? 01:32 * genehacker shrugs 01:32 < genehacker> I think they've done it with a packbot 01:34 < genehacker> I wonder if people will develop anti-propellor glue spray shooters for taking down small UAVs if they ever become wide spread, just like the nanobot countermeasures in a diamond age 01:41 < Utopiah> ( http://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/DiamondAge?action=print ) 02:01 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:18 < Utopiah> I wonder if there studies on Binaural-Beat Audio Generator like Gnaural that looked for patterns in specific type of music, like classical or minimal, to see if they exhibit such pattern and this explain why, at least for some people, they experienced "flow" or just better focus thanks to this type of music 02:26 -!- splicer [~foo@h90n3c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:33 < fenn> there are no "binaural beats" in classical music 02:34 < fenn> why would low frequency beats matter more than high frequency beats (harmony) anyway? 02:38 < Utopiah> I guess my question is "Do people who sell software to make you focus tell you what music to listen to to avoid buying their software?" :-# 02:41 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:41 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:48 < fenn> but gnaural is free 02:48 < Utopiah> (knew you were going to say that) 02:49 < genehacker> there could be fenn 02:49 < Utopiah> but they still want more user and there are also non free alternatives 02:50 < fenn> lol "desire of reading SciFi <=> crack" 02:51 < fenn> genehacker: no, binarual beats requires tones with <20hz spacing; classical music uses, er, musical notes, which have greater spacing 02:51 < Utopiah> are you using gnaural? 02:51 < fenn> no 02:51 < fenn> what's it for? i mean why would i want to listen to binaural beats? 02:52 < fenn> entrainment: what's it good for? absolutely nothin! 02:52 < Utopiah> dunno, that's why I ask 03:02 -!- splicer [~foo@h90n3c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:24 -!- genehacker [~genehacke@pool-173-57-40-144.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:35 -!- 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thesnark> I'm here 13:29 < TCrown> cool 13:29 < thesnark> other than me, not sure 13:30 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:30 < TCrown> I'm just checking out who's around and with which space or projects 13:30 < thesnark> I'm writing new firmware for a consumer EEG 13:30 < thesnark> making an open api for getting data from it 13:30 < thesnark> so people can make apps without paying 13:34 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:39 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:43 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:48 < TCrown> cool! 13:48 < TCrown> have you looked at sigrok yet? 13:49 < TCrown> it's a open framework for logic analyzers 13:49 -!- flamt 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I hate shopbot tools. Their software is scary awful (spindle speed controlled through the windows registry, anyone), and Ted knows it but hasn't done anything about it for 10 years 13:51 -!- thesnark [~michael@ppp-69-221-0-4.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:51 < lepton_> F that noise 13:59 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:03 -!- shepazu [~schepers@62-50-199-254.client.stsn.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:17 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:23 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:30 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:34 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- Incarnation [~lorem@66.51.250.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:16 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:22 < Utopiah> (The Expanding Mind http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_expanding_mind/ by Pete Estep, May 17 2010) 15:22 < klafka> so atm humans are dependent on oil for more than just energy, also for computers 15:23 < klafka> it seems that if we reach some sort of global technology failure what we need are biotech-based computers 15:24 < Utopiah> as long as your biotech-based computer don't eat my own food, why not 15:24 < fenn> i wonder why i'm receivng mail sent to errant-knights@theoreticalwindmills.org 15:26 < fenn> proof that SF is more fun? http://blog.robpitingolo.org/2010/05/where-smart-people-live.html 15:28 < klafka> wow it seems weird to me that buffalo is so high up but rochester isn't even on the chart 15:28 < klafka> makes me wtf 15:33 < TCrown> you also have to accou ntfor density 15:38 < fenn> yes but remember that density is part of the original hypothesis 15:45 < kanzure> lepton_: ted hangs out from time to time on the om list.. i was hoping we could convince him to hire someone from om at some point to improve shopbot stuff 16:03 < nsh> how do you search case-insensitively in less(1)? 16:04 < lepton_> kanzure: Yeah, I've seen Ted talk about how their software is... lacking (to be generous) 16:04 < lepton_> I've had a few conversations with him, but it doesn't seem like there's any real push towards something better 16:04 < lepton_> :< 16:05 < lepton_> It's sad, because it would be so easy to adapt EMC2 to replace the shopbot software, which would solve almost all the issues 16:06 < lepton_> Which is what I plan on doing next week 16:47 < fenn> nsh: less -i foo.txt 16:49 < nsh> hmm 16:53 < kristianpaul> kanzure: you site is down? 16:57 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:57 < nsh> then who was serv?!?!?!?1 16:59 < kristianpaul> there is other web site to check documentation about skdb? 17:00 < kristianpaul> okay got iy 17:02 -!- InkBlob [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:02 < kanzure> kristianpaul: it should be back up 17:02 < kristianpaul> oh pythonocc website have lots inprovements since the last time i saw it 17:03 < kristianpaul> kanzure: ok 17:03 < kristianpaul> there is a python-occ packages for debian squeeze? 17:04 -!- wilywonka [~wilywonka@68-114-199-12.dhcp.clma.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:11 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:13 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:25 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:26 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:26 < TCrown> what I'm wondering is why they are afraid of opensourcing it 17:27 < TCrown> I mean, they can have a official supported version 17:27 < TCrown> and then the community source version 17:27 < TCrown> I mean the shopbot 17:27 < TCrown> you have to buy 17:27 < TCrown> but the software 17:32 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:33 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:42 < kanzure> ruby is deceptively easy on some deployment stuff.. http://cloudhead.io/toto 17:46 -!- flamt_ [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:50 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:55 -!- flamt_ [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05 -!- flamt [~root@CPE001422b7fbf2-CM001ac30fb810.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has 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