--- Day changed Fri Jun 04 2010
01:39  * fenn mumbles something about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidMiner  and http://code.google.com/apis/predict/
01:40 < fenn> omgwtfbbq "You cannot currently download your model."
01:42 < Utopiah> (related talk http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/sessions/bigquery-prediction-apis.html )
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03:20 < fenn> home internet speeds 'round the world: http://www.netindex.com/
03:22 < fenn> pack yer bags kids, we're moving to the republic of moldova
03:23 < fenn> that's a pretty snazzy wobsite
03:25 < fenn> i wonder why japan scores so low.. all the cities are around 30-40Mbit/s
03:26 < fenn> oh, tokyo sucks
03:27 < fenn> well at least the got the statistics right, even if the graph drawing thingy makes the dots the wrong size
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04:36 < Utopiah> kanzure: did you use your Google Web History script to periodically rank your own searches based on how useful they were regarding your then current task?
04:44 < fenn> jeebus, rothblatt has 410 employees? http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0510/second-acts-pharmaceuticals-orphan-drugs-pah-deep-breaths.html
04:47 < fenn> that whole article is really confusing
04:47 < fenn> "there's no limit to the insurance cost of a drug so you get to fund a research program!"
04:58 < fenn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lizhenry/155710536/
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05:17 < fenn> hi jason
05:25 < fenn> kanzure see if you can get your lamp to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5g33S0Gzo
05:34 < fenn> from the same lab, looks like it's going bonkers to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JL04JJjocc&feature=player_embedded
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06:17 < fenn> "self replicating" laser cutter: http://www.buildlog.net/cnc_laser/index.php
06:20 < Utopiah> nice website
06:28 < fenn> i guess.
06:29 < fenn> the whole 'you must register before you can see anything at all' is turdsauce
06:29 < Utopiah> http://www.bugmenot.com/ and its plugin can help
06:30 < fenn> http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/wow/0aaurinefertil.jpg
06:41 < kanzure> cool i'm getting "splice! the movie" ads all over the place now :)
06:41 < kanzure> (ads aren't cool, kids)
06:56 < kanzure> i need to add this to the diybio faq eventually: http://www.the-scientist.com/2010/5/1/44/1/
06:57 < kanzure> fenn: what was your opinion on http://www.protomold.com/ ?
06:58 < fenn> expensive
06:59 < fenn> why, what's special about protomold?
07:00 < fenn> tl;dr
07:01 < kanzure> huh i thought you were the one who told me about it
07:01 < kanzure> why do i know about it?
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08:19 < kanzure> hm it seems some people are misattributing things to me just because i send emails about those things
08:19 < kanzure> like.. "oh, because bryan sent the email, he is therefore the person behind it"
08:19 < QuantumG> clearly
08:23 < kanzure> open science summit 2010 in berkeley, california http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/browse_frm/thread/9fd39e1a1b7d597e#
08:26 < JayDugger> When in doubt, simplify your prose. Your audience is always less astute than you expect, just as you never write so clearly as it seems to you.
08:26 < kanzure> do you mean that my prose in that email i linked to is bad? because that was copy+paste ;)
08:27 < kanzure> or do you mean that "FWD: " is not clear enough?
08:27 < JayDugger> Your forewarning disqualifies me as a test subject.
08:28 < JayDugger> I admit to often overestimating my own astuteness, though. :)
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10:10 < kanzure> lots of interesting stuff in #bioinformatics today about hplus summit, singularity summit, and open science summit
10:12 < kanzure> newspace conference in july at ames. don't have a link for this though
10:13 < kanzure> falcon-9 launch happening now: http://www.spacex.com/webcast.php
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10:30 < Utopiah> :|
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12:00 < InkBlob> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100604/world/us_test_rocket
12:13 < kristianpaul> oh
12:13 < kristianpaul> big oeps
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16:24 < kanzure> haha at grg trying to calculate how many days a certain supercentenarian stayed alive during a calendar switch but also while that person was traveling to some other country that had implemented another calendar entirely :P
16:25 < kanzure> hm there has to be a simpler way of laughing at that :/
16:28 < kanzure> "The quiet jubilation in the XCOR conference room was so thick we cut it up and served it with crackers."
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17:19 < kanzure> strages: do you  know about hektor?
17:19 < kanzure> *do you know about hektor?
17:20 < kanzure> elevenarms (he pops in here once in a blue moon) is doing hektor kits 
17:20 < kanzure> for drawing on whiteboards
17:23 < genehacker> have people used hektor for evil yet?
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18:54 < Alystair> so I got this brilliant idea
18:55 < Alystair> which I bet on a scale of good to bad it's actually pretty stupid
18:56 < Alystair> people with ADD/ADHD have reduced levels of dopamine... toxoplasmosis increases dopamine.... ;O
18:57  * Alystair puts out one fire with another fire
18:59 < Alystair> unrelated note: there'd be real money to be made to make a ritalin with a layer around it to re-balance the whole food/apetite
18:59 < Alystair> worst side effect other than the sleep thing
18:59 < nsh> what are the effects?
19:01 < kanzure> Alystair: dopamine is not necessarily a good thing
19:02 < kanzure> god damn it fenn, your word frequency analysis pops up again
19:02 < kanzure> oh well
19:02 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20080126133347/http://www.reciprocality.org/Reciprocality/add.html
19:02 < kanzure> Alystair: ^
19:06 < kanzure> fwiw: adderall is supposedly appetite supressant
19:06 < kanzure> *supposedly an
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19:09 < kanzure> thesnark: i'm making Alystair read this:
19:09 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20080126133347/http://www.reciprocality.org/Reciprocality/add.html
19:09 < kanzure> (because he wants to increase levels of dopamine in people with ADD/ADHD)
19:10 < thesnark> kanzure I think that's a good idea(increasing levels of dopamine)
19:10 < thesnark> I actually was lucky enough never to have any form of add
19:10 < thesnark> and I'm definitely not austistic
19:10 < thesnark> and
19:10 < thesnark> I would say there has always been a high amount of dopamine involved in my life =D
19:11 < kanzure> "I propose that humans have an ability to raise the level of the neuroinhibitor dopamine in their brains to reduce awareness if environmental novelty drops below a certain level."
19:11 < kanzure> "erhaps the ability evolved to enable us to outwait predators in seige situations, where our higher intelligence might otherwise cause us to get too bored and try to outrun a physically better endowed animal."
19:12 < kanzure> "The trouble is, in societies where children are constrained and "ritualised" between ages 4 and 6 (at the school in developed societies, or the loom is less developed ones), tolerance to the elevated level can develop, and the child becomes "ritual addicted"."
19:12 < kanzure> "We have the model of adrenaline addiction in athletes motivating them to take risks they would not normally take. Without realising it, the child will seek repetitive behaviour, and shun novelty."
19:13 < kanzure> "In the midst of this, the person with a defective D4 receptor is immune to dopamine self-addiction."
19:13 < kanzure> food for thought (if not literally)
19:13 < thesnark> Haha, what does all of this say about engineering? All practice, no thought =P
19:24 < Alystair> man
19:24 < Alystair> this universe is too recursive
19:24 < Alystair> so annoying
19:26 < Alystair> this human body is not elegant enough to deal with that kind of situation ;[
19:27 < Alystair> fenn has word frequency analysis on this channel? :)
19:27 < Alystair> that'd be pretty sweet
19:27 < kanzure> http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/histo3
19:27 < Alystair> also kanzure how did you pull up a link like that so quickly
19:27 < kanzure> all youtube videos from this channel:
19:27 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/youtube_videos_from_irc_channel/
19:27 < kanzure> i memorize urls in my spare time
19:28 < kanzure> all urls mentioned in #hplusroadmap as of january:
19:28 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplusroadmap-urls.2010-01-25.txt
19:28 < kanzure> frequency of urls mentioned in #hplusroadmap
19:28 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplusroadmap-urls.2010-01-25.freq.txt
19:28 < Alystair> no seriously, what's the magic.
19:29 < Alystair> I think we should have a secondary frequency list that filters out all the "boring" words :p
19:32  * Alystair isn't enjoying the writers personal slant so far
19:32 < kanzure> it's not worth reading the whole thing
19:32 < Alystair> us above them... we are all on the same damn marble
19:32 < Alystair> too bad
19:32 < Alystair> guess I'll skim ;)
19:33 < kanzure> oh, just ignore that particular slant
19:34 < kanzure> anyway, http://designfiles.org/~bryan/frequent_words.lst just filter out the top 1000 words or something from histo3
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19:34 < kanzure> er it's still uploading, give it a sec
19:35 < kanzure> ok there we go
19:35 < Alystair> ?_?
19:36 < kanzure> alan carter is still alive? hm
19:37 < Alystair> immunity eh
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19:41 < kanzure> haha at "We've had our noses to the grindstone for so long that we've forgotten (as a culture) how to live any other way. We organise ourselves in ways that are about coping with scarcity, so when the scarcity ran out we went and created artificial scarcity, just to keep things running smoothly!"
19:41 < kanzure> "when scarcity ran out"
19:41 < kanzure> a scarcity of scarcity
19:42 < Alystair> wonderful north american society
19:53 < kanzure> haha. MBA: Mass Boredom Addiction
19:58  * kanzure was reading over http://web.archive.org/web/20080106142615/http://www.reciprocality.org/thirdage/chapter2.html#boredom
19:58 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20080106142615/http://www.reciprocality.org/thirdage/
20:02 < kanzure> well, that was weird
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21:12 < InkBlob> BP used my idea and they're not giving me the credits.
21:12 < InkBlob> the oil spill. 
21:13 < nsh> what idea?
21:13 < InkBlob> seriously, i sent them a diagram. and the concept of slowing down the upward thrust pressure of the oil, slow it down, and finally seal it (they changed the part to draining the oil)
21:13 < InkBlob> but the main idea was... same.
21:15 < nsh> at least you can take comfort for the seals and seagulls
21:15 < InkBlob> compare these two images.
21:15 < InkBlob> http://img249.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=diagramg.jpg
21:15 < InkBlob> they took my concept!
21:16  * nsh can't access the web at the moment :/
21:16 < InkBlob> bah!
21:16 < nsh> i'll take your word for it
21:16 < InkBlob> well, it even looks the same :(
21:16 < nsh> maybe they're making you a hamper as we speak
21:16 < InkBlob> maybe they don't want to make 1 person a hero. 
21:16 < InkBlob> hahaha
21:17  * nsh smiles
21:17 < InkBlob> hopefully they will give me some credits :)
21:17 < nsh> 1UP
21:17  * nsh wonders how to circumnavigate the broken transparent http proxy he's sequestered behind
21:18 < nsh> know any proxies on nonstandard ports?
21:19 < InkBlob> http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html
21:19 < nsh> can't connect to anything over port 80/443 
22:04 < fenn> very nicely done page on future large scale engineering projects: http://www.shimz.co.jp/english/theme/dream/index.html
22:10 < fenn> huh maybe i should link histo3 to my homepage to increase my search rank
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22:23 < Utopiah> (pretty strong arguments http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone <3 )
22:48 < Utopiah> (USC latest version of the LittleDog Robot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQsRPJ1dYw March 2010)
22:54 < nsh> fenn, histo3?
22:55 < nsh> nm, got
22:55 < nsh> is this over all your irc, or just certain channels?
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23:07 < fenn> just hplusroadmap. and it's pretty old logs, i havent been keeping logs for a year or so
23:10  * nsh nods
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23:36 < fenn> worst thing i've seen all day http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3285