--- Day changed Mon Jun 07 2010 00:07 < fenn> dammit, it's not like i go look up things like "nullification fetish" on my own.. *grumble* 00:08 * fenn woke up today to the sounds of "the human centipede", confused, thinking it was my brother's girlfriend 00:10 < splicer> she sounds like fun 00:25 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:34 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:12 < bkero> human centipede? 01:13 < bkero> Is she segmented? 01:19 < jrayhawk> ha ha the reviews seem more entertaining than the movie would be 01:19 < jrayhawk> "The star rating system is unsuited to this film. Is the movie good? Is it bad? Does it matter? It is what it is and occupies a world where the stars don't shine." -- Roger Ebert 01:21 < jrayhawk> Kanzure: If you want more rapidly scalable storage space, you might get the OSUOSL folks to host you, but I don't know exactly what their policies are on personal or ambiguously licensed stuff. 01:55 -!- Trooem [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [] 02:09 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:30 -!- droid2 [~droid@13.sub-97-232-218.myvzw.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:30 < droid2> Good morning, everyone. 02:33 -!- droid2 [~droid@13.sub-97-232-218.myvzw.com] has left #hplusroadmap [] 02:39 -!- Jay [~Jay@13.sub-97-232-218.myvzw.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:39 -!- Jay [~Jay@13.sub-97-232-218.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:40 -!- Roy78 [~Tiger@ip68-11-187-208.br.br.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:32 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-202-18.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-202-18.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:05 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.180] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:09 < Utopiah> ( Your Brain on Computers - Attached to Technology and Paying a Price - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/technology/07brain.html ) 06:15 -!- Noahj [~noah@pool-70-22-200-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:15 -!- Noahj [~noah@pool-70-22-200-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:28 < Utopiah> what the... http://www.cyberpsychology.eu/ 06:44 < Yocttar> Question : is there any way to artificially synthesize a DNA sequence? (with computers\mechanics\electronics only) 06:45 < Yocttar> or my question refers to what venter did? ^^ 06:47 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [~chatzilla@99-57-132-140.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:47 < Yocttar> yep I guess that's it, so what did venter use ? :P 06:48 < Utopiah> Yocttar: might want to check http://www.dna.caltech.edu/~pwkr/ too 06:56 -!- splicer [~foo@92.39.2.24] has quit [] 06:57 < Yocttar> ty 07:01 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [~chatzilla@99-57-132-140.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:09 < kanzure> Yocttar: there's a way to chemically construct DNA from scratch 07:09 < kanzure> but it is painfully slow 07:11 * nsh wonders what the approximate figure of organisms in the biosphere is 07:12 < kanzure> 1 07:12 < kanzure> you're doing it wrong 07:12 < kanzure> jrayhawk: thanks :) 07:13 < kanzure> and yeah, the ambiguity needs to be accounted for 07:35 < Yocttar> Well, the question is - if I live in Africa, will it be faster for me to build a chemical synthesizer and synthesize a specific _known_ DNA strand or make all the usual stuff (electrophoresis, PCR) to extract the same strand ? 07:35 < Utopiah> would probably be faster to move to Europe :-# 07:36 < Yocttar> of course, but I like africa 07:43 -!- Noahj [~noah@pool-70-22-200-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:48 -!- Jericho [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:49 < kanzure> hello Jericho 07:54 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-209-197.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-209-197.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:57 < Jericho> hey kanzure, this is Trooem. forgot to change nick. 07:57 -!- Jericho is now known as Trooem 07:58 < Trooem> sent you a email... check it out man... 07:58 < kanzure> yes i read it. i haven't replied yet 07:58 < Trooem> okay 08:00 -!- Roy78 [~Tiger@ip68-11-187-208.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:04 < kanzure> techtrends: shanzhai http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=284 09:04 < kanzure> i think that article was posted a while back, no? 09:04 < kanzure> http://shan-zhai-ji.blogspot.com/ 09:04 < kanzure> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5151FW20090206 "Sham glam" sweeps China as fakes get trendy 09:33 -!- Trooem [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [] 09:40 < kanzure> hey, who among you is still in the boston area? 09:40 < kanzure> where'd wrldpeace go 10:03 < kanzure> hm why do i only know 50 people in the boston area 10:09 < fenn> only 50 you say 10:10 < fenn> what did trooem want? 10:26 < kanzure> he wants to use my money to fund his next crazy scheme 10:26 < kanzure> and he wants to move in with me 10:27 < kanzure> ha ha 10:27 < kanzure> cool, mac is helping me organize a little boston event after the conference 10:28 < kanzure> there's just too many people otherwise to try to hang out with 10:28 < kanzure> "unh+" or h-? 10:40 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279555684.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:40 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-209-197.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 10:40 < kanzure> hi Alystair 10:41 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@c-76-19-66-149.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:41 < kanzure> hi hundred-ideas 10:41 < hundred-ideas> yo 10:41 < kanzure> thanks for taking me up on the scheme 10:41 * Alystair renames self hundred-ideas^aleph 10:42 < hundred-ideas> I think it's a good idea 10:42 < Alystair> what are you up to now kanzure 10:42 < kanzure> Alystair: planning for boston 10:42 < kanzure> trying to get everyone in roughly the same spot 10:42 < kanzure> so that i can actually meet everyone :) 10:42 < kanzure> it's been like.. three years 10:43 < hundred-ideas> so could we get endorsement for the meetup from the h+ organizers 10:43 < kanzure> yeah i sent them an email asking 10:43 < hundred-ideas> and what's a catchy name? 10:43 < kanzure> the organizers are likely to agree 10:43 < hundred-ideas> h+ 10:44 < hundred-ideas> H= 10:44 < hundred-ideas> h++ 10:44 < hundred-ideas> unh+ 10:44 < hundred-ideas> hahaha 10:44 < kanzure> but they probably won't attend (busy kissing ass that has more money than they do) 10:44 < kanzure> hmm 10:44 < kanzure> H+ Plummet 10:44 < hundred-ideas> HPlummet 10:44 < kanzure> hah 10:44 < kanzure> hplu + plummet / summit / met 10:44 < kanzure> has everything necessary 10:44 < hundred-ideas> ok ship it 10:45 < kanzure> hah 10:45 < hundred-ideas> its perfect. 10:45 < hundred-ideas> so are you rocking a beard in that photo? 10:45 < kanzure> nah that's not me 10:45 < Alystair> H+ Summit 10:45 < fenn> so here's an idea, put craistlist ads on a friggin map! 10:45 < kanzure> i'm on the right here: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/photos/2010-05-21_hurricane-party.jpg 10:46 < kanzure> context: hundred-ideas is talking about http://designfiles.org/~bryan/photos/puma560/2010-05-28_puma500.jpg 10:48 < hundred-ideas> fenn: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=craigslist+apartment+map+mashup 10:49 < hundred-ideas> so should we try and get some light snacks / drinks for the h+beer meetup thing? 10:49 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: can you update the google invite invitation to have the hplummet name and a short one line description 10:50 < kanzure> i guess. how much money should i drop on it? 10:50 < hundred-ideas> well we could take donations 10:50 < hundred-ideas> it depends 10:50 < hundred-ideas> will anyone there want to drink beer or skip dinner? 10:50 < kanzure> dunno 10:51 < kanzure> some of the organizers have dinners with stephen wolfram and ray kurzweil, so they will definitely not be skipping out on dinner 10:51 < kanzure> as for the others.. who knows 10:51 < kanzure> sometimes there's an after party that is pre-scheduled, but i haven't seen anything about that yet 10:54 < kanzure> cool, alex lightman is showing up too 10:54 < kanzure> so there you go, organizer endorsement 11:06 < hundred-ideas> great 11:06 < hundred-ideas> I propose we get light snacks and some beers & soda 11:06 < kanzure> i'm only 20, am i allowed to purchase/consume beer in MA? 11:07 < hundred-ideas> I'm sure we could work something out depending on the space hosting 11:09 < kanzure> can you change the google calendar invite deets? 11:10 < kanzure> i wonder why i don't know anyone at harvard 11:14 < hundred-ideas> hplummet is sort of negative sounding.... 11:16 < kanzure> hplus discuss? 11:17 < kanzure> we could just go with a generic "diyh+" to emphasize the citizen science aspect 11:17 < hundred-ideas> that's a good idea 11:17 < Alystair> everyone's distracted by iphone 4 announcement 11:17 < hundred-ideas> and it touches on the unofficial nature of the event 11:17 < hundred-ideas> haha 11:17 < hundred-ideas> yeah 11:17 < Alystair> I do not enjoy apple stuff normally but it's a nice piece of kit so far ;/ 11:18 < Alystair> that pixel density is insane 11:18 < hundred-ideas> I like h+beer personally 11:18 < hundred-ideas> or h+talk 11:18 < hundred-ideas> but whatever 11:18 < hundred-ideas> the name is just aname 11:18 < kanzure> h+talk sounds fine to me.. 11:18 < hundred-ideas> ok 11:19 < kanzure> hmm i need to tell you about my "adopt a lab rat" schemes 11:19 < kanzure> one of these days. 11:20 < hundred-ideas> h+us 11:20 < kanzure> heh :) 11:24 < hundred-ideas> my girlfriend suggests 11:24 < hundred-ideas> beer+ 11:24 < hundred-ideas> haha 11:25 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25 < kanzure> that's ok with me, but where is the beer coming from 11:25 < hundred-ideas> which name is more attractive to the demographic we are inviting? h+us or h+beer? 11:26 < kanzure> i have no idea 11:26 < hundred-ideas> we can get $100 of beer and just put a little donation jar out 11:26 < kanzure> okay 11:32 < hundred-ideas> btw is the puma5000 made of lasercut wood? 11:32 < kanzure> no, it's metal 11:33 < kanzure> but i'm considering doing a laser cutter kit down here in austin 11:33 < kanzure> i hae someone with a machine shop who wants to build it with me 11:33 < kanzure> something like <$1k price tag 11:33 < kanzure> we figure we can do the co2 laser for $600, the rest is just some extra electronics and acrylic parts 11:33 < kanzure> *have 11:34 < kanzure> also i might redo the parts of the arm in acrylic so that it will be "see through" (somewhat) 11:39 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:42 < hundred-ideas> cool 11:43 < hundred-ideas> so are you going to present some progress on minifluidics at h+? 11:43 < kanzure> a little bit. not primarily 11:44 < kanzure> that's not the primary topic, i mean 11:44 < kanzure> i was hoping to have something i could demo, but that didn't happen in time 11:49 < hundred-ideas> ah bummer 11:50 < hundred-ideas> well I still haven't tried anything yet 11:50 < hundred-ideas> with minifluidics I mean 11:53 < kanzure> actually.. maybe i will have time to cut something out real fast 11:53 < kanzure> everything has been working lately, i should be able to give it a e to give it a go 11:58 < fenn> hum the new iphone is really only $200? or is that $200 + your soul 11:59 < fenn> ah, soul not included 11:59 < fenn> (needs 2 year contract) 12:05 < kanzure> the 2 year contract is like $2k in total or something 12:07 < Yocttar> "laser cutter kit" ? RepRap like stuff? any link? 12:13 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279555684.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 12:23 < kanzure> Yocttar: no link yet :) 12:57 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:21 -!- lepton_ [~john@195.sub-75-220-9.myvzw.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:22 < lepton_> oops, looks like I'm still logged in at home 13:23 < phryk> lepton_ and lepton sitting on a tree... I broke my funny bone. 13:24 -!- lepton__ [~john@maa0736d0.tmodns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:24 < lepton__> wow, I recommend not using a 3G network as the only internet connection in your full time workspace 13:25 < lepton__> Anyway, any thoughts or opinions on the Purple Platypus / BitsFromBytes Panther/BFB3000 3d printer? 13:27 -!- lepton_ [~john@195.sub-75-220-9.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:28 < kanzure> fenn: let's talk in here about the cgal/opencsg stuff 13:29 < fenn> ok 13:29 < kanzure> reimplementing opencsg is probably a bad idea, yes 13:29 < kanzure> but some wrappers might be hawt 13:30 < kanzure> i think STEP supports breps, btw 13:30 < fenn> so, to recap you wanted someone to write a plugin for openscad to export STEP 13:30 < kanzure> so instead of exporting primitives you can export the bounded representations 13:30 < kanzure> either the plugin for OpenSCAD->STEP or a python-based CSG library (like a wrapper for OpenCSG) that can export to STEP 13:31 < fenn> ok but why not just do python bindings for opencsg? 13:31 < kanzure> yeah that'd be okay too, given a STEP export 13:31 < fenn> so, er, uh.. what does openscad do that opencsg doesn't do? 13:32 < lepton__> sorry for jumping in without context, but why use step files for input to OpenCSG, when STEP files drop any sort of parametric associations to geometric primitives? 13:32 < fenn> i dont really know what it's capable of, apparently: http://rocklinux.net/pipermail/openscad/2010-February/000222.html 13:32 < kanzure> why would i know that 13:32 < kanzure> i don't want STEP for input to OpenCSG 13:32 < fenn> step is for output 13:32 < fenn> it's a less lossy data exchange than STL 13:32 < kanzure> i want some easy way for doing CSG stuff in python, plus export to STEP 13:32 < lepton__> gotcha 13:33 < lepton__> and yeah, step >> STL 13:33 < kanzure> diybio t-shirt order form http://www.etsy.com/listing/48631562/diybio-t-shirt-preorder?ref=em 13:34 < fenn> btw i've changed my mind, your idea on using genetic algorithms or whatever to match primitives up to an STL actually might work 13:34 < kanzure> if by work you mean "cause your eyes to bleed" then, yeah 13:34 < fenn> after reading about k-means and expectation maximization i saw how it could work 13:35 < fenn> EM is basically a special case of curve fitting 13:35 < lepton__> are you guys familier with hypervolume based multiobjective optimization alrogithms? 13:35 < lepton__> like HyPE? 13:35 < fenn> no 13:35 < lepton__> Jelle from pythonOCC turned me on to it, good papers from Ziztler not too long ago 13:35 < lepton__> which would provide computing time bounds on primitive fitting of an STL 13:36 < kanzure> hawt 13:36 < lepton__> http://www.tik.ethz.ch/sop/publications/?page=searchAlg.php 13:36 < fenn> i dont care about time bounds, it just has to be reasonably tractable 13:36 < lepton__> yeah, but when you're dealing with geometric nonlinearity it's an order of magnitude game where computing time can really really mater 13:37 < lepton__> Optimization like that is why I need pythonOCC to work in Ubuntu ;) 13:37 < lepton__> or rather the PAF 13:39 < fenn> dammit, i knew i should have taken a photo of that powerpoint slide 13:40 < fenn> never believe someone when they say they'll have slides up eventually 13:40 < kanzure> it's a lie 13:40 < kanzure> especially when it's a video of their talk 13:40 < fenn> oh i found something close enough 13:40 < fenn> http://astrostatistics.psu.edu/su09/lecturenotes/image/kmall.png 13:41 < fenn> ok see the red dot and blue dot, those are the means 13:41 < kanzure> PA? 13:41 < kanzure> *PCA 13:41 < kanzure> *principal component analysis 13:41 < fenn> the blue dot gets dragged to the right because most of the little blue dots are on the right 13:41 < fenn> we'd do something similar but with triangles and surfaces instead of big dots and little dots 13:42 < fenn> i guess i need to explain the diagram 13:42 < fenn> the line between the red and blue dots is how you classify little dots 13:42 < fenn> it's the line of equal distance between the means (big dots) 13:43 < fenn> at each step in the algorithm you move the big dot to the center of the little dots and then reclassify the little dots 13:43 < kanzure> i need to run around town real quick.. but i'm glad you like my idea finally :P 13:43 < kanzure> (also, i've considered hiring cheap asian labor to just redo STL files in brep formats) 13:44 < fenn> that's not scalable 13:44 < fenn> or open source :P 14:25 < hundred-ideas> kanzure: how many folks do you think will come to the h+beer? 14:26 < hundred-ideas> or h+us 14:26 < hundred-ideas> 5, 15, 50 ? 14:26 < kanzure> less than 50, but more than 5 14:32 -!- lepton__ [~john@maa0736d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:45 < hundred-ideas> One option is for me to reserve a bar in harvard square for 30 or so people 14:45 < kanzure> what would be the deadline on that reservation? 14:45 < hundred-ideas> I also live about 15 minutes away and so we could host at my house 14:45 < kanzure> deadline on making hte reservation, i mean 14:45 < hundred-ideas> but it has the downside of requiring a short ride on the T 14:46 < hundred-ideas> Not sure about reservation deadline... probably pretty soon 14:46 < kanzure> what's the minimum number of people to make the reservation? is there any? 14:49 < hundred-ideas> I think it becomes flexible after you hit 20+ 14:49 < hundred-ideas> or so 14:49 < hundred-ideas> But if we go with a local bar, some of the crowd will be expected to buy drinks (ok with me), but they might not allow underage folks in 14:50 < hundred-ideas> I'll call 14:50 < kanzure> heh, that would be terribly ironic 14:50 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:59 < hundred-ideas> hmm 14:59 < hundred-ideas> nothing too promising there 14:59 < hundred-ideas> with 30+ people we should rent the whole bar. 14:59 < hundred-ideas> If the organizers wanted to throw down $1000 we would be all set :) 15:00 < hundred-ideas> I'll put that on the backburner and look for free spaces 15:00 < kanzure> oh we'd have to put down money? that sucks 15:01 < hundred-ideas> One option is to just show up with a bunch of people 15:01 < hundred-ideas> but we might not really be able to mingle very well 15:01 < hundred-ideas> the other option is to reserve the whole bar 15:01 < hundred-ideas> I'll look for other, cooler spaces 15:01 < kanzure> i think just showing up makes sense to me.. "we're the geeks" 15:01 < kanzure> okay 15:01 < hundred-ideas> but gotta run 15:01 < kanzure> cya 15:02 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@c-76-19-66-149.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 15:23 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:25 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: ok looks like we might have the official ok from the event organizers 15:25 < kanzure> they had some people trying to organize something but apparently that failed (?) 15:28 < hundred-ideas> cool! 15:28 < hundred-ideas> well 15:28 < hundred-ideas> I will continue to look for a cool venue in Harvard Sq today and tomorrow 15:29 < kanzure> so uh 15:29 < kanzure> does diybio-boston have any lab space yet 15:29 < kanzure> because that might be appropriate 15:30 < hundred-ideas> yes it's at sprout 15:30 < hundred-ideas> In Davis Sq, which is also where my house is 15:31 < hundred-ideas> Sometimes sprout is booked up. It's a local hackerspace. But if not, that would be a fine place to do it 15:31 < genehacker> make sure to tell them about the need for an agar factory and Thermophilus aquaticus restriction enzymes that can be grown in E.coli... 15:31 -!- neobii__ [~chatzilla@75-30-249-187.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 15:32 < hundred-ideas> Is agarose that expensive? 15:32 < genehacker> no 15:32 < hundred-ideas> rather, is agarose very expensive relative to the cost of purifying it from agar? 15:33 < genehacker> we want to make diybio seed 15:33 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: heather knight just emailed oyu some stuff she's been looking into 15:33 -!- shepazu [~schepers@209-45-135-130.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:33 < kanzure> rialto, upstairs, bambara, dante? 15:33 < kanzure> do any of these sound like anything to you 15:34 < kanzure> oh she was looking for private dining 15:36 < hundred-ideas> yeah those look like very nice upscale dining places 15:36 < kanzure> let's try for something less expensive :P 15:36 < hundred-ideas> how did she figure out no-go on the media lab? 15:36 < hundred-ideas> I have some friends there... 15:37 < hundred-ideas> but I bet it would take more than a weeks notice to get it sorted out 15:37 < hundred-ideas> I'll still ask 15:38 < hundred-ideas> do you know anything about possible demos and interactive art? 15:38 < hundred-ideas> that would be really cool 15:39 < hundred-ideas> are there folks interested in bringing that to the venue? 15:39 < kanzure> dunno, i haven't heard anything about that until now 15:39 < kanzure> she might have been talking about the art collective 15:39 < kanzure> i don't know if there will be any demo stuff at the conference though 15:40 < hundred-ideas> collision collective is cool. They are very dynamic as a group. 15:40 < hundred-ideas> I don't think they exist between the semi-annual show they organize. 15:41 < hundred-ideas> There is no collision collective, only collision collective 1, collision collective 2, ... collision collective 11, etc. 15:41 < kanzure> huh 15:43 < hundred-ideas> And the loosely-knit group of artists who do it 15:57 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:58 < hundred-ideas> hey so we should put together a url w/ deets 15:58 < kanzure> yes 15:58 < hundred-ideas> or at least with a placeholder for deets 15:58 < kanzure> david orban is asking for one 15:58 < kanzure> can you do a blog post on diybio.org maybe? that way you can edit it 15:59 < hundred-ideas> that might be best 15:59 < hundred-ideas> or I can just throw up some static html at hplusbeer.com 15:59 < kanzure> heh 16:00 < hundred-ideas> or we could use http://www.mobaganda.com/hbeer 16:00 < kanzure> my internet connection is too slow today for me to let that load :/ 16:02 < hundred-ideas> K I'll get it working at diybio.org/hplusbeer 16:06 < hundred-ideas> gosh I hate our wordpress theme 16:06 -!- shepazu [~schepers@209-45-135-130.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:07 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: http://fivesecondtest.com/ 16:08 < hundred-ideas> oh yeah! cool 16:08 < kanzure> or http://99designs.com/ 16:09 < hundred-ideas> maybe I'll work on the design tonight 16:12 -!- shepazu [~schepers@209-45-135-130.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:13 < kanzure> i need a css front-end guy, btw 16:13 < kanzure> if you know anyone.. potentially who also does jquery, that'd be hot 16:15 < hundred-ideas> nice ok 16:15 < hundred-ideas> http://diybio.org/hplusbeer/ 16:16 < hundred-ideas> hows hurricane labs btw? 16:21 -!- shepazu [~schepers@209-45-135-130.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:22 < hundred-ideas> bryan, you want to email david & alex that the url is up 16:23 < hundred-ideas> also how do you feel about disquss? 16:24 -!- Noahj [~noah@c-24-34-27-156.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:24 < hundred-ideas> err, I mean disqus 16:27 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:27 < genehacker> ummm kanzure there's another skdb out there: http://www.steorn.com/skdb/ 16:27 < genehacker> by steorn the perpetual motion scam company 16:41 < kanzure> yeah i'm aware of it 16:41 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: what's disquss? 16:41 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: hurricane labs? the iphone app thing? 16:42 < kanzure> i guess i'll tell you about what happened in person :/ 16:43 < kanzure> or we could just talk about more interesting things 16:56 < kanzure> updated: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/meetlog.txt (last update was 2010-05-25) 17:01 < kanzure> crap i'm late for class http://mysite.verizon.net/tedgoertzel/Singularity2010.html 17:06 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- Trooem [~Trooem@S0106001d724fcb1d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:24 -!- Trooem [~Trooem@S0106001d724fcb1d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:33 -!- lepton [~lepton@174-29-110-71.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:34 -!- lepton [~lepton@174-29-109-147.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:41 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: hundred-ideas] 17:42 -!- Roy78 [~Tiger@ip68-11-187-208.br.br.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:53 -!- Trooem [~Trooem@S0106001d724fcb1d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:31 < kanzure> http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/bfs/1693938523.html 18:31 < kanzure> 8inch chunk 18:31 < kanzure> about 4 tons 18:31 < kanzure> 11ft long lathe 18:36 < genehacker> well it's not a battleship cannon lathe, so we'll have to find something bigger 18:36 < kanzure> cannon lathe? fire ahoy? 18:36 < kanzure> like.. you fire the lathe out the cannon? 18:36 < genehacker> no as in for making battleship cannons 18:37 < genehacker> battleship cannons are obsolete technology 18:37 < kanzure> aha 18:37 < genehacker> they've been replaced by missiles 18:37 < genehacker> or are they? 18:37 < kanzure> honestly i think a cannon that fires lathes would be more effective 18:37 < genehacker> the navy is working on railguns 18:37 < kanzure> especially with a lathe that weighs 4 tons 18:38 < genehacker> heh just like that fab book with a fab made of carbon nanotubes that could withstand being shot into another country 18:38 < genehacker> blast what was the name of that... 18:41 < genehacker> ah kiosk 18:51 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51 -!- Trooem [~Trooem@S0106001d724fcb1d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [] 18:52 -!- egeste_ [~egeste@70.85.237.250] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- Ian_Dani1er [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:53 -!- Ian_Daniher [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53 -!- egeste [~egeste@70.85.237.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53 < kanzure> hi egeste_ 18:54 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:54 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:55 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:00 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:00 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone. 19:01 < kanzure> hello jay 19:04 < JayDugger> Ready for next weekend's talk, kanzure? 19:14 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:14 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:18 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:25 < kanzure> JayDugger: yep :) 19:26 < JayDugger> Good, good. 19:26 < kanzure> will you be present? 19:26 < kanzure> in the audience? 19:26 < kanzure> or cheering on the stream viewers in here? 19:27 < kanzure> http://hplussummit.com/streaming.html 19:27 < JayDugger> I won't attend in the flesh, but might watch the proceedings live. 19:28 < JayDugger> Thank you for the link. Do they have a public calendar? 19:29 < JayDugger> Cheering on the viewers sounds like fun. What twitter hashtag, or has that become passe in favor of identica or Google Wave or Teleplace or the novelty de jour? 19:30 < genehacker> this is hplussummit, why don't they have robot avatars you can "be" there? 19:31 < JayDugger> Didn't make a convincing case for Willow Robotics as a sponsor? 19:41 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:47 -!- Trooem [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:02 < QuantumG> you just gotta get SU onboard and the robots come free 20:02 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:02 < QuantumG> .. and if you want SU onboard, all you have to do is make lots of noises about exponential change 20:02 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:16 < genehacker> what's SU? 20:17 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:20 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:23 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:25 < QuantumG> Singularity University 20:27 -!- Roy78 [~Tiger@ip68-11-187-208.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 20:54 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:58 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:16 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:32 < Trooem> http://mydisguises.com/ko/2008/05/02/amazing-fan-made-iron-man-costume/ 21:32 < Trooem> there's another guy made warmachine outta actual metal. wow...... 21:32 < QuantumG> tubby 21:32 < Trooem> yup 21:33 < Trooem> like me. 21:39 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:53 * Trooem is really a genius in disguise. Muah hahahahahaha! 21:57 * Trooem is going to USA! Wooo WHoooo! 22:01 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:14 * Trooem is playing dreamfall longest journey. Anyone played this game? 23:20 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:34 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:38 -!- drazak [~drazak@ip-69-162-134-185.static.chi2.systeminplace.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:51 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:58 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap