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00:00 < splicer_wrk> (or bioclipse maybe, something the picture would fit)
00:30 < Utopiah> ( http://nrg.mbi.ufl.edu/ Neuroprosthetics Research Group (NRG) )
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07:36 < kanzure> (01:53:18 AM) Cameron Ruggles: Is there a technique, which is used to copy the strains of microbs on a petri dish, over to another by placing them on top of each other, so the agars touch? if so.. what is this technique called? or am I just imagining things? 
07:37 < kanzure> i've been put into the creative commons
07:37 < kanzure> http://www.slideshare.net/humanityplus/d2-s22-bryan-bishop
07:44 < cluckj> the picture of the dude fixing his own robotic(?) arm is great
07:52 < phryk> Mhh No-Myostatin-Mouse. I'd like to have that mutation :3
07:55 < cluckj> beefcaaaake
07:58 < phryk> Mhhh, Cake...
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08:01 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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08:08 < phryk> Morning, JayDugger!
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08:56 < kanzure> cluckj: yeah. what's even more awesome is that he's jonathan kuniholm and runs openprosthetics.org
08:56 < kanzure> he lost an arm somewhere in iraq
08:59 < kanzure> oh this is annoying
08:59 < kanzure> http://www.abjentrepreneur.com/news/2010/06/new_capital_factory_class_targets_team.html
08:59 < kanzure> "At Hurricane Party, 27-year-old Rene Pinnell met his two cohorts through a three-day networking and brainstorming event for students at the University of Texas."
08:59 < kanzure> well that's a lie
09:00 < JayDugger> Is that the first time you've caught the press lying about something you know well?
09:01 < kanzure> JayDugger: there's a potential lawsuit between that guy and me :/
09:01 < kanzure> i was one of the people he met at that "networking and brainstorming event"
09:01 < kanzure> and there was only one other he met there
09:01 < JayDugger> Ah...
09:01 < kanzure> anyway, don't mind me
09:02 < kanzure> i'm already jaded about business, wheee
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09:18 < JayDugger> The Vampire Diaries--A BBC sitcom  about the lives of DeHaviland engineers during the early days of the jet  age.
09:19 < JayDugger> Cheer up, everyone. Someday future entertainers will mine the past for fifth-rate entertainment.
09:19 < JayDugger> Eventually they'll work their way down the logs of this IRC channel, even.
09:21 < JayDugger> Austin City Limits will be remade as a police procedural. Cops will have to run about town looking for illegal fabs and hell-kitchens, trying to enforce local thermal pollution laws while keeping up with the Green Party political officer and the attractive journalist.
09:21 < JayDugger> I give the show two seasons, three tops.
09:21 < JayDugger> Then it will go into syndication, and fandom will take it over. ;)
09:24 < cluckj> hahahaha
09:25 < JayDugger> Don't distract me--I'm filing a copyright claim as I type. 
09:25 < JayDugger> Better still, don't encourage me.
09:26 < JayDugger> Another $0.02 for the off-topic jar.
09:32 < cluckj> not if I cc it first
09:41 < genehacker> what's a hell kitchen
09:41 < JayDugger> A SF neologism, meaning a miniature biological factory, optimized for making weapons, usually at safety's expense.
09:42 < genehacker> also I voted for the "put a huge ass radiator around earth's equator" proposal, and they can pry my fusor from my cryogenically frozen hands!
09:42 < genehacker> neat, let's never make one of those
09:43 < JayDugger> Amen to that.
09:43 < JayDugger> Amen to both.
09:44 < genehacker> though if we do make a DNA synthesizer we could make the ebola RNAi cure(100% effective in n=4 nonhuman primates!)
09:44 < JayDugger> Did you see the NYT's article on Bigelow Aerospace this week?
09:44 < genehacker> I think I did
09:44 < JayDugger> It had a neat graphic of the facility.
09:45 < genehacker> did you know the Japanese successfuly deployed a solar sail
09:45 < JayDugger> Plus the token "Bigelow's a weirdo," and yes, I did.
09:45 < genehacker> that might have an ion engine on it
09:45 < JayDugger> I still don't think they'll have a moon base in ten years.
09:45 < genehacker> ahem, they're planning a robot moon base
09:46 < genehacker> robots don't need to ever come home
09:46 < JayDugger> I hope they delight me. I doubt they'll do it.
09:47 < genehacker> I don't
09:47 < JayDugger> I'm listening.
09:47 < genehacker> Japan does a lot of public program type things to stimulate their economy
09:47 < genehacker> and this is one of them
09:48 < JayDugger> Oh?
09:48 < JayDugger> I hadn't heard that.
09:49 < JayDugger> But why build hardware? Paper studies make work too.
09:49 < genehacker> because paper studies aren't as impressive I guess
09:49 < kanzure> "and they can pry my fusor from my cryogenically frozen hands" hehe
09:50 < kanzure> why is genehacker more funny today than usual
09:50 < genehacker> sleep deprivation
09:50 < kanzure> wonderful
09:50 < genehacker> I haven't slept all night
09:50 < genehacker> I feel great
09:50 < kanzure> there's a "science comedian" talking before or after me at the summit
09:50 < JayDugger> Me neither--but that's normal.
09:50 < kanzure> http://hplussummit.com/malow.html
09:51 < kanzure> "Brian Malow is Earth's Premier Science Comedian (self-proclaimed). "
09:51 < genehacker> no really I feel great
09:51 < kanzure> "He has fabricated a career of appearing in places not normally occupied by stand up comedians. "
09:51 < kanzure> "In a pattern extending back to childhood, he has been laughed at by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the American Chemical Society, NASA, JPL, the National Association of Science Writers, Apple, Dell, Microsoft, his younger sibling, and many others. "
09:51 < kanzure> i wouldn't mind doing standup comedy for NIST :)
09:51 < genehacker> if only you could make a joke involving a watt balance
09:52 < genehacker> anyway when are you heading down to h+ kanzure?
09:52 < kanzure> i'm leaving at 2pm
09:52 < genehacker> good luck then
09:52 < kanzure> thanks :)
09:52 < kanzure> this is going to rock
09:53  * kanzure has his minifluidic device demo thing sitting next to him
09:53 < genehacker> and admire those wonderfully inefficient aircraft engines
09:53 < JayDugger> That's the spirit! Tell George Dvorsky hello for me.
09:53 < genehacker> sharpie thing?
09:53 < kanzure> nope, not sharpie
09:53 < kanzure> laser cut :)
09:53 < kanzure> but i don't have food coloring dyes, so i'll have to use human blood
09:53 < genehacker> the fluidic amplifier or something else?
09:53 < kanzure> i wonder what the viscosity of human blood is
09:53 < genehacker> it varies with shear rate
09:53 < kanzure>  hrm
09:54 < genehacker> I think it's shear thinning
09:54 < JayDugger> And exposure to air.
09:54 < kanzure> anyway, you'll just have to watch the presentation to see the live demo
09:54 < kanzure> although to be honest, it's not that impressive when you consider academic stuff done in papers
09:54 < genehacker> highlighter ink and blacklight?
09:54 < kanzure> someone will fetch dye for me, no biggie
09:55 < cluckj> food dye is pretty easy to get :P
09:55 < kanzure> the sharpie minifluidics stuff has come in handy many times during dinner parties
09:55 < kanzure> cluckj: it took me 3mo to get some
09:55 < kanzure> i can assimilate vast volumes of scientific literature in less than a day
09:55 < genehacker> does it do anything besides pass dye through it?
09:55 < kanzure> but getting to a grocery store taxes my abilities
09:55 < kanzure> genehacker: no
09:55 < cluckj> hehe
09:55 < kanzure> cluckj: have you read any of these? http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/
09:55 < genehacker> you could have at least made an emulsifier thing
09:56 < kanzure> i might talk a little about the diy longevity projects that are going on.. but i only have 10min :x
09:56 < genehacker> that simple thing fenn showed a video of
09:56 < kanzure> wouldn't i need oil to do an emulsification?
09:56 < cluckj> kanzure, probably not, I'm a social scientist and only an ex-biochemist :)
09:56 < genehacker> oil is widely available
09:56 < kanzure> cluckj: impure! impure!
09:56 < kanzure> (i'm kidding)
09:57  * cluckj chokes and dies
09:57 < genehacker> very widely available in the gulf of mexico
09:57 < kanzure> i find your lack of faith disturbing
09:57 < cluckj> hehe
09:57 < kanzure> (now you choke and die)
09:57 < cluckj> +1
09:58  * cluckj chokes and dies
09:58 < kanzure> :)
09:58 < JayDugger> Time to go. Good afternoon, everyone.
09:59 < genehacker> time to sleep
09:59 < cluckj> http://designfiles.org/papers/Human%20DNA%20methylomes%20at%20base%20resolution%20show%20widespread%20epigenomic%20differences.pdf
09:59 < cluckj> I have read that one
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10:06 < fenn> re "Is there a technique, which is used to copy the strains of microbs on a petri dish, over to another" <- yes, you use a piece of velvet stretched over a cylinder that acts like thousands of tiny needles
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10:12 < fenn> "replica plating"
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11:03 < kanzure> hi hundred-ideas 
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11:04 < hundred-ideas> hey there kanzure 
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11:20 < kanzure> wtf
11:20 < kanzure> fedex just came by my house to drop off the mesanet.com controllers
11:20 < kanzure> but apparently you have to be over 21 to get this stuff?
11:20 < kanzure> so he took it back..
11:21 < fenn> lol
11:21 < fenn> no toys for you!
11:22 < fenn> seriously that makes no sense whatsoever
11:26 < kanzure> http://www.mrcglobal.org/ andrew says they are important somehow?
11:27 < fenn> sorry i can't read that
11:27 < fenn> it's written in liberalese
11:27 < kanzure> do you mean legalese?
11:28 < fenn> no
11:29 < fenn> "share the goal of enabling better, healthier lives for the world's poor. We have a global network of partners - scientists, entrepreneurs, policymakers and government officials, non-governmental organizations and funding agencies - that can help bring the models we develop to scale."
11:29 < fenn> i'd ask for help translating but i don't really care tbh
11:29 < kanzure> wait wait, i was asking *you guys* for translation help /first/
11:29 < kanzure> no fair. no tag backs.
11:30 < fenn> double dog gonnit
11:30 < fenn> i already sat through my share of soft headed blabbering this week
11:31 < kanzure> how was lang?
11:32 < fenn> he's a very good showman, it seemed like he had given the talk hundreds of times
11:32 < kanzure> uh, i think he has :)
11:32 < fenn> '"The Force Majeure" is a work to reflect on the oncoming effects of Global Warming from a whole systems perspective. What can culture do, specifically the artist, as a response to the loss of glaciation and the ensuing problems with rivers and droughts in a region like Tibet? This work suggests a sweeping, but possible, biological response to the 2.4 million square kilometers of the Tibetan plateau as well as to other regions of the world.'
11:32 < kanzure> remember his talks to toyota and other car manufacturers? whoever did the origami commercial thingy.
11:33 < fenn> yeah he helped with that commercial
11:33 < kanzure> it's really weird how artists think they can just band together and solve the world's problems by "designing" out of thin air
11:33 < fenn> yeah i still had no idea what their "proposal" was at the end of it
11:33 < kanzure> and they are proud that they are artists and they are proud they don't know biology
11:33 < kanzure> etc.
11:33 < fenn> right
11:34 < kanzure> i think this is what used to be called "the humanities" in the past 40 years or so
11:34 < kanzure> "the humanities" used to be actual study and stuff- renaissance man style- but was recently taken over in the last handful of decades
11:34 < fenn> you're thinking of "the liberal arts"
11:35 < fenn> gershenfield thing
11:35 < kanzure> i think arts and humanities are valuable subjects and so on, but the academic elitism just boggles me
11:36 < kanzure> even outside of academia! artists who are living "green" to save the world
11:36 < kanzure> anyway, i'll bbl
11:36 < kanzure> cya freaks in boston
11:36 < fenn> ciao
11:36 < fenn> don't strap a breadboard to your chest
11:36 < fenn> heh or a microfluidic device
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11:42 < Yocttar> any1 familiar with ajax around?
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12:03 < ybit> Yocttar: what are you wanting to know?
12:19 < Yocttar> how to activate a script after loading a page using ajax: for example, the loaded page contains a div with an id, then some script should do something with that div.
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13:08 < fenn> gadzooks
13:08 < fenn> "HP is making test wafers with memristors on them down to 3nm in size."
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13:50 < JayDugger> Anyone fluent in legalese?
13:51 < JayDugger> It looks as if the FDA just told 23andMe they need FDA approval for their kit.
13:51 < JayDugger> http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/ResourcesforYou/Industry/UCM215240.pdf
13:52 < JayDugger> I can't tell from the letter.
13:58 < fenn> boo hiss
13:59 < fenn> that's not even legalese
13:59 < fenn> just disgusting
13:59 < JayDugger> Easy, fenn. I've been awake for 22+ hours with only caffeine.
14:02 < JayDugger> http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ProductsandMedicalProcedures/InVitroDiagnostics/default.htm
14:03 < JayDugger> They also wrote navigenics, Illumina, Knome, deCODE, and Pathway Genomics.
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14:40 < jcluck> see y'all in boston.....
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20:09 < cluckj> kanzure, make it to boston okay?
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20:31 < Redeemer> So I am curious, how many of ya'll are attending the current H+ event?
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20:39 < fenn> only three i think
20:40 < fenn> kanzure cluckj and hundred-ideas
20:40 < Redeemer> Thats better than none
20:41 < fenn> you know i think i actually like ipython better than bpython, even if its tag completion is uglier
20:41 < fenn> at least it has control-R (history search) and doesn't crash all the time
20:41 < Redeemer> I had other plans for this exact timeframe, but with recent events I would not have had the cash to do it at this time.
20:41 < Redeemer> Not crashing all the time is important'
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20:42 < Redeemer> I need to go back to reading through my python tutorials and continue mah learnings
20:44 < fenn> having a project is helpful
20:45 < fenn> i have plenty if you want to borrow one
20:45 < fenn> (that is a joke btw)
20:47 < Redeemer> I'm sorry, I was too busy drowning in my current pit of un-completed projects and unmanifested ideas.
20:51 < Redeemer> However, reading PDFs with a portable platform.. that gives me no reason to have ignored them for this amount of time.
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21:33 < fenn> the django admin interface is neat
21:38 < fenn> heh "Take a few minutes to marvel at all the code you didn't have to write."
21:43 < kanzure> Yocttar: yeah i do ajax stuff
21:43 < kanzure> Yocttar: i think javascript has an eval() command, that might help youu
21:44 < kanzure> Redeemer: also Ian_Daniher
21:45 < kanzure> fenn: you're only now doing django-admin stuff?
21:49 < fenn> yeah i never bothered to actually learn how to use it
21:49 < kanzure> it's nice :)
21:50 < fenn> all this database migration bullshit is just ... bullshit
21:50 < fenn> at least it should be enabled by default
21:51 < fenn> maybe i'm missing some obvious thing; if you change a variable name it totally fubars the database, right?
21:51 < fenn> and if you change a class name it really fubars everything
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23:35 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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