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00:22 < fenn> IBM to enter supercomputer on Jeopardy gameshow: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20Computer-t.html?hp
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00:29 < fenn> better url http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20Computer-t.html?pagewanted=all
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00:39 < fenn> i gotta get me some of these http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/24551/cameracube/
00:44 < fenn> not too bad, ovm7690 is $25 qty 1 at digikey
00:45 < fenn> $12 qty 25
00:47 < fenn> if you're too lazy to look at the link, it's a 640x480 camera + lens + video encoder all in a 2.5mm cube
00:48 < fenn> that's scary small
00:49 < Yocttar> yep, its cool, maybe embed in a reprap? ^^
00:50 < Yocttar> you can have a sort of progress report - filmed!
00:52 < fenn> er, that's not what i was thinking at all
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01:11 < fenn> elevenarms: check this out, VGA camera + lens + encoder in 2.5mm cube: http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=45
01:11 < elevenarms> whoa.
01:12 < elevenarms> any idea about price?
01:12 < fenn> $25/qty 1 $12/qty 25
01:12 < elevenarms> nb.
01:12 < fenn> ps i now work at ovt, but i would think it's cool anyway
01:13 < elevenarms> in what capacity?
01:14 < fenn> i shake a stuffed animal in front of a camera and attempt to make it crash :)
01:15 < elevenarms> lol... QA?
01:15 < fenn> yeah, it's not exactly what was in the job description
01:16 < fenn> i am supposed to be making a database to do regression testing
01:16 < fenn> or... something
01:16 < elevenarms> fun... full time gig?
01:17 < fenn> 3 days a week
01:17 < elevenarms> looks like SF is your new home...
01:17 < fenn> mountain view, actually
01:17 < elevenarms> also when are you shipping me a mini-mendel kit?
01:17 < fenn> as soon as, er, uh... wait a minute
01:18 < fenn> i'm having extruder issues
01:18 < elevenarms> is there a zip of your design files somewhere?
01:18 < fenn> no?
01:18 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/reprap/ is everything
01:19 < fenn> uh, almost
01:19  * fenn fixes
01:19 < elevenarms> did you scale the partfiles in inkscape before lasering?
01:19 < elevenarms> across the board or did you have to redesign some pieces ?
01:20 < fenn> ok, now there should be a little yellow box at the bottom, "fixes.tgz"
01:20 < fenn> first of all, i don't have a laser cutter
01:21 < fenn> second, all the laser-cut pieces are useless and not worth making in the first place
01:21 < elevenarms> you're cncing each piece
01:21 < elevenarms> ?
01:21 < fenn> third, i found this out after making them by hand with a saber saw
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01:22 < fenn> cnc might work, dunno, it's pushing the capacity of the dojo cnc mill
01:22 < fenn> for the one piece you actually do need
01:22 < fenn> i'd rather just redesign it so everything can be printed
01:23 < fenn> my method for generating svg's from stl: raytrace in blender at large resolution in orthographic mode, including a 1cm cube
01:23 < elevenarms> eek
01:24 < fenn> then do autotrace, and scale such that the cube makes a 1cm square
01:24 < fenn> but in reality autotrace doesn't work for some reason, so i used gimp and then printed the bitmap
01:24 < fenn> couldn't figure out why autotrace wouldnt work.. it's gray on blue
01:25 < fenn> supposedly skeinforge will slice an stl and generate svg of the outline, but i couldnt get that to work either
01:26 < elevenarms> then you used a scroll saw to cut the template glued to polycarbonate?
01:26 < fenn> yep
01:26 < fenn> used 1/4
01:26 < elevenarms> <hat tip>
01:26 < fenn> pvc actually
01:27 < fenn> ah that reminds me, i need to order more tiny ball bearings
01:27 < elevenarms> totally random...
01:27 < elevenarms> have the lumenlab guys sold any of their machines?
01:28 < fenn> it uses a lot of bearings, and i didnt order enough so i'm currently using a bunch of washers on a 3mm bolt, doesn't work so well
01:29 < fenn> i have no idea about lumenlab
01:29 < fenn> looks like a shit design for milling anything but foam and circuit boards if you ask me
01:29 < fenn> "look, we threw money at it! yaaaaaaay"
01:30 < elevenarms> that was my take on it
01:30 < fenn> then a 50 ton dose of reality comes crashing down
01:30 < elevenarms> anything that cost more than a few hundred is not really worth it
01:30 < fenn> ooo "Metal Base Solid. Straight. Shiny.
01:31 < fenn> srsly, go buy a square column milling machine from harbor freight
01:31 < elevenarms> it's interesting given that sherline has the small mill figured out
01:31 < elevenarms> it even comes with emc in cnc form
01:31 < elevenarms> (expensive though)
01:33 < fenn> hm i guess HF doesn't sell that particular mill anymore
01:33 < elevenarms> like this http://www.mini-lathe.com/x3_mill/X3rvw/X3.htm
01:34 < fenn> i think it was the RF-45
01:34 < fenn> http://davidpbest.com/VA/StonehorseShop/MillDrill/MillDrill.htm
01:35 < fenn> x3 is similar
01:35 < elevenarms> wow
01:35 < elevenarms> that's larger then i though
01:36 < fenn> yeah x3 is more of a 'bench top' mill
01:36 < fenn> this is like, occupies its own bench
01:37 < fenn> also the x3 is $600 vs $3k
01:38 < fenn> #1 Haunted Seller-Trusted - opens in a new window or tab 
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01:38 < fenn> Powerful Ancient Spells & Spirits! $ Back Guarantee! X3
01:39 < elevenarms> i have a second hand x2 (i think - or some flavor there of)
01:39 < fenn> HAUNTED PURE BLOOD CARPATHIAN VAMPIRE PRIESTESS RING!* $220
01:40 < fenn> is there an x1?
01:40 < elevenarms> yes http://www.embeddedtronics.com/micromill.html
01:41 < elevenarms> i think it's ~$300
01:42 < elevenarms> nice micro-fixtureplate http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/pt_work_holding_system.html
01:49 < fenn> i should get to bed, i promised to open the dojo in the morning for some reason
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01:52 < elevenarms> ttyl... keep me posted on mendel
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02:17 < neobii_> ls
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04:50 < kanzure> good morning
04:51 < marainein> morning
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05:27 < kanzure> stalk: Danny Piccirillo
05:27 < kanzure> jrayhawk: do you know of danny? why am i getting emails from him
05:29 < kanzure> http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-05-14/Biohacking__harmless_hobby_or_global_threat.html?fullstory
05:29 < kanzure> stalk: Phil Holtzman
05:29 < kanzure> stalk: Dan Heidel
05:30 < kanzure> stalk: Keith Kleiner
05:35 < kanzure> http://ru-ru.facebook.com/pages/Biohacking/110131879016283
05:37 < kanzure> http://www.fightaging.org/archives/2010/06/the-tumbling-walls-of-formal-science.php
05:42 < kanzure> http://biotechnewsupdate.blogspot.com/2009/01/biohacking-open-wetware-future.html
05:43 < kanzure> stalk: Kyle Munkittrick
05:43 < kanzure> http://www.poptranshumanism.com/2010/06/not-so-scary-synthetic-life/
05:43 < kanzure> http://reason.com/archives/2010/05/25/whos-afraid-of-synthetic-biolo
05:43 < kanzure> stalk: Ron Bailey
05:44 < klafka__> sorry i get all my information from timecube.com
05:44 < kanzure> http://reason.com/archives/2010/05/25/whos-afraid-of-synthetic-biolo
05:44 < kanzure> klafka__: jrayhawk was saying the other day that the internet needs a proxy that "timecuberizes" the web
05:46 < klafka__> haha
05:46 < klafka__> definitely
05:46 < kanzure> hm there's a surprisingly high concentration of transhumanist publications writing about diybio
05:47 < kanzure> http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ#Has_DIYbio_been_in_the_news.3F
05:47 < kanzure> fightaging.org, poptranshumanism.com, singularityhub.com, reason.com, kevin kelly (ok, he's more like extropianism), hplusmagazine.com
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05:56 < klafka__> how is extropian really different from transhumanist?
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06:23 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
06:28 < faceface> morgen
06:29 < Utopiah> faceface: hey, was it on one of your wiki that we kinda started an H+ potential course?
06:29 < faceface> that rings a bell
06:29 < faceface> but I don't think it was H+
06:29 < faceface> we started some course or another
06:30 < Utopiah> ok, well because during H+ summit there was Transhumanism & Education by Kevin Jain for http://usodb.fas.harvard.edu/public/index.cgi?rm=details&id=940 which seems (beside SingU) to be actually doing it
06:30 < Utopiah> could be interesting to compare content, dates, etc
06:30 < faceface> cool
06:30  * faceface tries to remember
06:31 < Utopiah> was not even a draft but I like to keep track of such things
06:32 < faceface> I seem to remember we had some aim or another
06:32 < Utopiah> http://biocourse.org/index.php/H%2B
06:33 < Utopiah> (found it)
06:38 < Utopiah> (updated http://fabien.benetou.fr/Events/HplusSummitHarvard#Education with it)
06:38 < faceface> ++
06:48 < klafka__> hey does anyone know what the limit of time between inventing something and patenting it is?
06:48 < JayDugger> I don't sorry.
06:49 < klafka__> asking in relation to http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/16/2233230/USPTO-Lets-Amazon-Patent-the-Social-Networking-System
06:49 < Utopiah> klafka__: lawyers skills
06:51 < Utopiah> I mean you're theoretically supposed to demonstrated historical precedence and a "susbstancial" improvement
06:52 < Utopiah> but AFAIK the UPSTO/WIPO results is not necessarly aligned with what they officialy advertize
06:52 < Utopiah> (doesn't mean the patent you get will be useful after anyway though)
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06:56 < klafka__> no i mean how long do you have between "inventing" and filing for a patent
06:58 < Utopiah> as long as nobody does it before you?
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07:02 < klafka__> well i mean this is an interesting case, they have a company that created a facebook like site in 1998, then they patented social networking in 2008
07:02 < klafka__> so where does that leave shit
07:02 < klafka__> can you patent shit 10 years after you create it, during which time other people have done the same thing
07:03 < Utopiah> Amazon have a weird history of patents, remember the 1-click system?
07:03 < Utopiah> they claimed that too, iirc it didn't work in the end
07:04 < Utopiah> the current procedure is that if there is prior art you can't patent it
07:05 < Utopiah> but ... I not so jokingly answer "lawyers skills" before because in the end
07:05 < Utopiah> they know more about jargon, current tech. etc... than the patent office that get flooded with requests
07:05 < Utopiah> obviously the person asking for a patent never show the prior art
07:07 < Utopiah> I discussed a bit with patent lawyers and the institute in France ( http://www.inpi.fr/ ) and it changed my "idealistic" view on it
07:07 < klafka__> well but prior art applies to when the invention occured or when the patent was filed?
07:07 < klafka__> Utopiah, yah i have a far from idealistic view of the patent system
07:07 < klafka__> i'm just sort of curious 
07:07 < Utopiah> in between
07:08 < Utopiah> since you can't patent as soon as you invent there is always a gap
07:08 < Utopiah> the "trick" is to get it acknowledge by their system 
07:08 < Utopiah> without the competition kowing it
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07:09 < Utopiah> which lead to weird things like not publishing in scientific journals, cryptography patent that are retroactive, etc
07:09 < Utopiah> Im sorry but I dont know enough on that topic and I really gotta go now
07:09 < klafka__> aah
07:09 < klafka__> ok
07:09 < klafka__> later!
07:09 < Utopiah> but let know about about what you discover ;)
07:10 < Utopiah> (and invent, I promise not to patent it!)
07:10 < klafka__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_invent
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07:31 < kanzure> http://www.pdfernhout.net/the-problems-of-being-self-determining.html
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07:48 < kanzure> gee paul's story was way more underdeveloped than i anticipated
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07:53 < kanzure> for some reason this image is called "diybio versus transhumanism" http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeanbaptisteparis/4698542099/
07:53 < kanzure> cluckj: you're in it
07:53 < kanzure> http://www.biofortified.org/
07:53 < kanzure> http://www.iftf.org/node/3512 Recognizing Lightweight Innovation: Key Characteristics and Technology Drivers
07:53 < kanzure> stalk: Anthony Townsend
07:55 < kanzure> http://www.scientificblogging.com/what_question/blog/what_expect_h_summit
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07:56 < kanzure> http://technologiclee.blogspot.com/
07:56 < kanzure> there's a diybio-houston? http://flavortrippinghouston.eventbrite.com/
07:58 < kanzure> "fluorescent black" http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/41758.htm/ (scifi?)
07:59 < kanzure> dunno what's going on here: http://www.facebook.com.blit.li/pages/w/108171055878345
07:59 < JayDugger> Ehh...it ran in Heavy Metal.
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08:01 < kanzure> gah i've been liveblogged: http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/hughes20100613/
08:03 < kanzure> actually whoever did that didn't do that bad of a job :)
08:03 < kanzure> my grandmother is trying to get me to join mensa by sending me links to mensa quizzes on their website
08:04 < JayDugger> She's proud of you.
08:04 < kanzure> they start off with "what's the next image in this series"
08:04 < kanzure> suffice it to say i closed it immediately
08:04 < JayDugger> Or she's a member, and gets a referral or commission.
08:04 < kanzure> hahah
08:04 < kanzure> eugenics mixed with capitalism
08:04 < kanzure> :P
08:05 < JayDugger> You mean the Nobel Prize Winner's 
08:05 < JayDugger> Sperm Bank?
08:07 < JayDugger> Those last two should've been on the same line.
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08:17 < pmetzger> back much later...
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08:46 < JayDugger>  	bildr is currently in private beta, and is  looking for anyone interested in potentially helping with the project.  
08:47 < JayDugger> "We need everyone from grammar spotters to graphic designers; from  electronics masters to simply helpful people."  
08:47 < JayDugger> "If you would like to help out, or just want to poke around, the invite  code is bildrInvite76f3 - You can register at http://bildr.org/register"
08:48 < JayDugger> I'll report what I find out.
08:53 < kanzure> it's bullshit
08:53 < kanzure> adam doesn't actually want our help
08:53 < kanzure> i called him up and talked about it
08:55 < klafka> haha
08:55 < kanzure> his phone number is 520-275-5192, go ahead and call i guess
08:56 < kanzure> Adam Meyer <ameyer@g.risd.edu>
08:57 < JayDugger> Your prompt answer saves me trouble.
08:58 < kanzure> i wonder if unptnt.com ever made it to the web (news, etc.)
08:59 < kanzure> http://opensourcebridge.org/users/97
08:59 < kanzure> hm.. well he at least mentions it
08:59 < kanzure> (that's elevenarms)
09:02 < kanzure> jrayhawk: did you go to this? http://opensourcebridge.org/
09:09 < kanzure> http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/benfords-law-zipfs-law-and-the-pareto-distribution/
09:09 < kanzure> http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/05/first-digit-is-most-likely-one-benfords.html
09:09 < kanzure> relevant paper re: benford's law: http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.0660
09:09 < klafka> oh benford's law
09:09 < klafka> so fucking weird
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09:37 < kanzure> http://oscillatorblog.com/ seems to have nice content
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09:42 < kanzure> hi erislol 
09:42 < erislol> hi
09:42 < kanzure> http://wp.me/ppY4a-aW "gene design in less than 10min"
09:43 < Utopiah> any DIY haptic system? (checking http://www.sensable.com/products-openhaptics-toolkit.htm )
09:43 < kanzure> and if that doesn't work, this page might have the right link: http://friendfeed.com/diybio/4389b6f1/gene-design-in-less-than-10-minutes-see-video?embed=1
09:43 < kanzure> stalk: Seng Loong Chan
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09:45 < kanzure> http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/25547/ "A heated AFM tip can draw nanometers-wide conductive lines on graphene oxide."
09:46 < kanzure> http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/25593/ "Foundation Medicine will provide a personalized picture of a patient's disease." "genetic profile"
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09:50 < kanzure> erislol: so, what brings you here? :)
09:51 < erislol> well, I've been lurking on the bodyhacking mailing list for a while
09:51 < kanzure> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/this.week.html proof of a no cloning (perfect copying) theroem
09:51 < kanzure> erislol: ah, cool
09:51 < kanzure> i thought i might have met you at the recent conference
09:51 < kanzure> i gave a presentation and some of the people showing up are from the summit
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09:52 < erislol> heh, unfortunately not
09:52 < kanzure> okie dokie
09:52 < erislol> I'm just very interested in computational neuroscience, brain-computer interfaces, and the like
09:52 < kanzure> how about some videos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4ex52LYDe8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzUVd0skbc8
09:52 < erislol> I thought there could be some cool people and conversations here
09:53 < kanzure> no, we're totally lame and not to be trusted
09:53 < erislol> awww
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09:56 < erislol> looks like an interesting talk, but I can't hear it very well
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11:32 < kanzure> hi AJollyLife 
11:37 < AJollyLife> hey kanzure :)
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12:02 < mheld> http://twitpic.com/1xlt6i I met rodney brooks today!
12:02 < Utopiah> :)
12:05 < fenn> benford's law is really weird
12:06 < kanzure> david dalrymple was in the ny times the other day apparently
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12:36 < fenn> re: dalrymple, this must be it (btw wtf google, why didnt this show up on news: dalrymple) http://www.theledger.com/article/20100613/ZNYT01/6133014/1001/BUSINESS?p=all&tc=pgall
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12:37 < fenn> anybots is right next door, i should go over there some time and poke around
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12:41 < fenn> blah blah blah bah singularity blah MIT blah 
12:41 < fenn> i wonder who pays for all these articles to be written
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12:42 < kanzure> fenn: why, your ad clicks!
12:42 < parolang> I think it means that the baby boomers are starting to take their impending demise seriously.
12:43 < kanzure> unlikely. not yet :)
12:43 < parolang> Oh sorry...somehow I thought this was #emacs :D
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12:46 < kanzure> stalk: Todd Tahtinen <todd@spatial-films.com>
12:47 < kanzure> humanityplusaccounts@gmail.com
12:47 < kanzure> hmm
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12:49 < fenn> god i cant believe i read all that crap
12:50 < parolang> kanzure: Is "stalk" a command for your web spiders?
12:50 < fenn> lol
12:50 < fenn> it's a command to his loyal minions
12:51 < parolang> Either that or kanzure's becoming a creeper :)
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12:55 < kanzure> parolang: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/meetlog.txt becoming?
12:55 < kanzure> :/
12:55 < kanzure> hmm i can probably plot my creepiness with respect to time
12:56 < parolang> heh :)
12:56 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/stalk.2010-06-17.log
12:57 < parolang> I just wondered if your web spiders can collect and analyze online information to produce a history of the target's residency and employment.
12:57 < parolang> Ah...you just grep for stalk in your irc log :)
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13:04 < jrayhawk> kanzure: re: opensourcebridge: no, but I am loosely associated with a bunch of the organizers and speakers. I actually hosted that website on the box gnusha is on for a while.
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13:07 < jrayhawk> also erislol is a good name, but not so much for this irc network
13:08 < AJollyLife> kanzure: if you are interested in webstalking, start looking into OSINT stuff :)
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13:23 < kanzure> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Grants
13:23 < kanzure> hmm
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13:24 < kanzure> anyone want to make up a silly proposal about studying thingiverse.com and creative commons? :P
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13:37 < drazak> kanzure: checked out the local hackerspace today
13:37 < drazak> kanzure: I'm working on rfid lockers for them
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13:43 < fenn> honda, enabling lazy fatasses everywhere with its new self-driving office chair: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ
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13:57 < kanzure> s/lazy fatasses/shareholders/ you're corporate now, remember?
14:04 < AJollyLife> drazak: which hackerspace is that?
14:13 < drazak> AJollyLife: buffalolab.com
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15:13 < fenn> how long until we start seeing killer bee assassination attempts? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090123101211.htm
15:14 < fenn> the DoD is working on a hummingbird sized drone that carries a small explosive charge, for assassination. i'm sort of amazed they admit to building it
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15:22 < fenn> wow there's a whole category for face recognition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Face_recognition
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15:54 < cluckj> kanzure, that is my friend that I came there with
15:56 < cluckj> it's called diy bio vs transhumanism because I'm studying diy bio, and he's studying transhumanism
15:56 < cluckj> and jb is a twerp :)
16:06 < fenn> GpuCV is an open-source GPU-accelerated image processing and Computer Vision library. It offers an Intel's OpenCV-like programming interface for easily porting existing OpenCV applications, while taking advantage of the high level of parallelism and computing power available from recent graphics processing units (GPUs). It is distributed as free software under the CeCILL-B license. 
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16:51 < pmetzger> looks like IBM is making progress on AGI even if none of the various AGI interested transhumanists are...
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16:52 < QuantumG> what are they doing?
16:52 < uniqanomaly> parolang lol, u'r kidding right?
16:53 < pmetzger> They have a very big variant on Blue Gene that can play Jeopardy against humans and wins most of the time.
16:53 < pmetzger> Seriously.
16:54 < kanzure> i prefer the blue brain project w/ IBM
16:54 < kanzure> screw jeopardy
16:54 < kanzure> btw we're trying to get henry markram for the next hplus summit
16:54 < pmetzger> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20Computer-t.html
16:54 < pmetzger> It is kind of impressive how far they've gotten with brute force.
16:54 < pmetzger> And kind of impressive how unfar other people have gotten.
16:55 < uniqanomaly> pmetzger *
16:55 < uniqanomaly> narrow ai
16:55 < kanzure> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/06/reprap_inkjet.html inkjet sprayers for 'printing' on your printed 3d prints
16:55 < pmetzger> Narrow? Dunno.
16:56 < QuantumG> Watson, what a creative name!
16:56 < kanzure> http://open3dp.me.washington.edu/2010/06/reprap-breeding-program/
16:56 < uniqanomaly> same as chess x years ago, just different domain
16:56 < pmetzger> it is certainly specialized, but the specialization involves all the information one might get in an unrestricted trivia game.
16:56 < kanzure> stalk: Nicholas C Lewis
16:56 < kanzure> stalk: Marcus Lew
16:56 < pmetzger> Watson is named after T.J. Watson Jr. and Sr.
16:56 < uniqanomaly> specialization -> not agi
16:56 < pmetzger> one thing I've learned about AI: if you can do it, everyone says it isn't AI. :)
16:57 < pmetzger> I wonder if we're natural intelligence even. :)
16:57 < pmetzger> time for dinner for me, bbl.
16:57 < kanzure> http://inventionaddict.com/2010/06/13/reprap-rapid-prototyping-in-the-comfort-of-your-own-garage/
16:58 < uniqanomaly> heh i'm waiting for breakfast, 2am in my timezone ;)
16:58 < kanzure> wtf is intelligence and why are you talking about it
16:58 < kanzure> http://piggington.com/ot_reprap_quota_factory_in_every_home_a_factory_that_can_make_mo
16:58 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/reprap-brisbane
16:59 < kanzure> oops i'm already a member :-/
17:00 < QuantumG> nice to know that if I ever get interested in reprap I can go see some locals
17:01 < kanzure> you should go even if you're not interested
17:01 < QuantumG> that would involve leaving the house
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17:15 < kanzure> hey ismarc 
17:15 < ismarc> sup cap'n
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17:17 < kanzure> hi niftyzero 
17:23 < niftyzero> hi... I just heard about this room from an h+ friend
17:24 < eridu> so there's no really good unicode solution for H+
17:24 < eridu> there's a unicode character for a dot in a circle, but nothing for just floating dot
17:31 < parolang> uniqanomaly: yes :)
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18:01 < pmetzger> evening.
18:12 < AJollyLife> hello :)
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19:23 < pmetzger> hrm. Didn't know about BRL-CAD before.
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19:26 < QuantumG> you're probably better in your ignorance
19:26 < QuantumG> its not like it's usable
19:26 < kanzure> heh
19:26 < kanzure> pmetzger: http://heekscad.org/
19:27 < kanzure> http://opencascade.org/
19:27 < pmetzger> bedtime for me....
19:27 < kanzure> night
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19:52 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone.
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20:05 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/
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20:06 < cluckj> fuck_you.png, nice touch :)
20:07 < kanzure> the second time you go to the image, it redirects you to goatse
20:07 < cluckj> hahaha
20:07 < ismarc> that's awesome
20:07 < cluckj> awesome
20:07 < kanzure> :)
20:14 < kanzure> egeste: it just occurred to me the reason for genehacker's frequent ping timeouts
20:14 < kanzure> i guess his scheme is "working" sorta
20:15 < cluckj> anyone used stellarium?
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20:25 < kanzure> it's the simple things in life that make me happy: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/screenshots/2010-06-17_youtube_views.png
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21:18 < QuantumG> wow, this is terrible: http://vimeo.com/3315489
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22:31 < LilxHK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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