--- Log opened Sat Jul 10 00:00:17 2010
01:12 < kanzure> "print your DNA" taken to mean the wrong thing
01:12 < kanzure> http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/wiki/index.php?title=Science_-_DNA
01:13 < kanzure> transhumanism on reddit http://www.reddit.com/comments/cmfsi/how_would_you_feel_about_genetically_engineering/
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02:58 < JayDugger> Morning, uniqanomaly.
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07:20 < Utopiah> http://fusioninventory.org/
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10:14 < kanzure> http://www.synthesis.cc/2010/06/lavaamp-v02.html
10:25 < kanzure> "ethics of diy biohacking in singapore" http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-ethics-of-diy-biohacking
10:25 < kanzure> http://www.bioethics-singapore.org/wcb2010/
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10:26 < kanzure> "We will be looking into DIYbio, a branch of hobbyist biology that aims to make biotechnology open and accessible to amateur biologists! "
10:26 < kanzure> http://2009.igem.org/Team:NTU-Singapore
10:26 < kanzure> http://2009.igem.org/Team:NTU-Singapore/HPA
10:28 < JayDugger> Heh. Austin's public library has a copy of "How to Build with Grid Beam."
10:28 < JayDugger> Mine does not.
10:29 < JayDugger> Of all the things about Saint Louis, I miss few. Its neighboring county's public library makes one big exception.
10:34 < kanzure> ugh http://2009.igem.org/Team:NTU-Singapore/HPA/Essay "In addition, we believe it should adopt some system to un-anonymise the community. Setting up a DIYbio community based social network is one way of doing this; imagine a Facebook for DIYbio! "
10:35 < kanzure> terrible idea.
10:35 < Utopiah> Singapore*un-anonymise what a surprise :-#
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10:46 < kanzure> http://biobusiness.tv/ http://bitesizebio.com/
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11:00 < kanzure> http://2010.igem.org/Oil_Sands
11:01 < kanzure> what's with the giant tire? http://2010.igem.org/wiki/images/1/15/Igem10.jpg
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12:24 < bkero> kanzure: you still in the bay area?
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12:25  * kanzure is listening to http://philosophybites.com/2009/05/allen-buchanan-on-enhancement.html
12:25 < kanzure> bkero: no, not there yet O_o
12:26 < kanzure> i should just buy the ticket instead of waiting on SU to buy it
12:26 < bkero> heh
12:26 < bkero> should come visit me
12:26 < bkero> we can bbq
12:27 < bkero> I can give you a tour of Mozilla.
12:28 < Utopiah> (in french but interesting http://www.kalix.ch/ set of tools, including licenses, for free project, including hardware)
12:29 < Utopiah> (limited to Switzerland though, it seems o_0)
12:32 < kanzure> bkero: does mozilla have.. a physical location?
12:32 < bkero> yes
12:33 < bkero> We have a big office
12:33 < bkero> I use the term office loosely.
12:35 < kanzure> by office do you actually mean to say "giant playground with lots of computers"
12:37 < kanzure> "cautionary heuristics" eh. i don't know if that's any better than a proactionary principle or set of quant tools.
12:38 < bkero> kanzure: its very similar to google
12:39 < kanzure> giant t-rex skeletons got nothin' on godzilla
12:40 < bkero> we have a t rex in the lobby
12:50 < kanzure> hm it worries me that IEET was the one who ran ""Human Enhancement Technologies and Human Rights conference"Human Enhancement" at stanford
12:51 < kanzure> http://ieet.org/HETHR/
12:51 < uniqanomaly> >>Some bioethicists have proposed a global treaty to ban enhancement technologies as "crimes against humanity." << WTF
12:52 < kanzure> anyone know who jeff medina is? http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/HETHR_bios/medina/
12:52 < Utopiah> if it's crime against imperfect humanity maybe that's not a crime...
12:53 < kanzure> hm he was on the sl4 wiki
12:53 < kanzure> "transpuppyism"
12:53 < kanzure> http://acceleratingfuture.com/sl4wiki/Jeff_Medina/Notes_To_Self
12:53 < kanzure> and a nice list of journals on that page
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13:14 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone.
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13:19 < kanzure> does anyone have a 3d animation or image or visualization of a mostly-realistic endoplasmic reticulum?
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14:18 < bdesk> happy tesla day
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14:28 < Guest35599> Hello?
14:32 < kanzure> hi
14:34 < Guest35599> wow, it works
14:45 < jennifer> we've been trapped in this computer for ages, let us out!
14:46 < Utopiah> [poc poc poc] (sound of the a fist hitting the screen from inside)
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16:27 < kanzure> fenn: http://riekes.org/ is in your area.. "center for human enhancement".. but seems to be mostly a summer camp-gym-thing for kids?
16:37 < kanzure> `Genes that make mustard hot and spicy on human tongues also let snakes "see" heat, explaining the remarkable ability of some species to strike prey in total darkness.` http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/03/wasabi-vision/
16:37 < kanzure> wasabi vision
16:39 < jennifer> O.o
16:39 < jennifer> I can taste hot mustard - but I can't see heat
16:39 < kanzure> bkero, fenn: you should check out http://events.venturebeat.com/mobilebeat2010/ on the 12th
16:40 < bkero> hm ok
16:59 < kanzure> nice to see this :)
16:59 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:George_Church
17:00 < ENKI-][> kind of ridiculous since they are unrelated
17:00 < ENKI-][> capsaicin content isn't heat
17:05 < kanzure> http://nextfabstudio.com/ `NextFab Studio is a membership-based, high-tech workshop and prototyping center- it's Philadelphia's "gym for innovators".`
17:08 < kanzure> i don't like how mac doesn't announce anything
17:08 < kanzure> http://bosslab.org/
17:08 < kanzure> "We are developing low-cost, low-waste, open-source kits that above all else make biotechnology fun."
17:08 < kanzure> "The ucam kit is available for presale at Maker Faire 2010. Preorders are available for $99 including an arduino or $79 without one. The kit ships June 16th. BOSSLAB accepts paypal or credit card payment. Email orders@bosslab.org with your order."
17:09 < kanzure> "science is hard, let's design" image: http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kubze12Dci1qz8cj0o1_500.jpg
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18:12 < fenn> this is some impressive photoshoppin http://ajanlo.kapu.hu/pics.php?d=cosplay
18:13 < fenn> wasabi triggers various ion channels.. ion concentration is strongly affected by local temperature
18:14 < fenn> "mostly realistic endoplasmic reticulum" eh
18:14 < fenn> oh damn, whatsisname stole the book.. i would have an image if it weren't for dead trees being non-copyable
18:17 < fenn> bkero: can i come visit some time?
18:19 < fenn> ooh i get to pay $200 to watch ieet people bullshit around?
18:19 < fenn> sign me up!
18:19 < fenn> oh, and that was in 2006
18:21 < fenn> never heard if riekes
18:21 < kanzure> interesting how kurzweil limits himself to only 52 pulic appearances per year
18:21 < kanzure> i guess he likes to have a week in between them?
18:21 < fenn> looks like some random ymca-type organization
18:21 < kanzure> *public
18:21 < fenn> no he appears more frequently than 1/week sometimes
18:22 < kanzure> actually i'm not sure if he's good at counting things
18:22 < kanzure> it was listed on his CV
18:22 < kanzure> last year it was 52, the year before that 51
18:26 < fenn> ok i'm off to superherosf.com
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18:27 < fenn> hopefully i wont get abducted by superheroes
18:27 < kanzure> you could be my alfred!
18:29 < fenn> is that like jeeves?
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18:54 < jennifer> yes
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19:01 < kanzure> so, continuing the saga of the diybio article on wikipedia..
19:01 < kanzure> i've converted my news article list into proper wikisyntax for citations
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19:01 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DIYbio#More_references
19:02 < kanzure> here's the current state: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIYbio
19:02 < kanzure> it's pretty obvious splicer edited this article :P
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19:17 < bdesk> formatting a bibliography is a pain
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19:18 < kanzure> bdesk: i figured nobody else would do it
19:18 < kanzure> i mean, it's been more than a year since i first posted some references
19:18 < kanzure> and nobody converted it to wikitext
19:19 < kanzure> okay.. laptop melting lap. time to go :(
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20:56 < bkero> fenn: sure
20:56 < bkero> fenn: are you in the bay area?
21:09 < kanzure> yes he is
21:15 < kanzure> "We've cured cancer so many times in rodents, if I were a mouse, I'd take up smoking unfiltered Marlboros while working at a nuclear waste disposal site in the Ukraine."
21:17 < kanzure> http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/ " Help to make sense of the Daily Mail's ongoing effort to classify every inanimate object into those that cause cancer and those that prevent it. " haw haw
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21:19 < jrayhawk> DHMO causes cancer in lab mice
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22:46 < bkero> fenn: where you be?
22:49 < kanzure> huh arnold is pretty evil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndgT091cqdg (at 2:00 but before that is some context)
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