--- Log opened Mon Jul 12 00:00:17 2010 00:43 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-93-82.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:48 -!- nsh_ [sbp@59.176.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:48 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:04 -!- splicer [~foo@92.39.2.10] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:52 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:23 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:32 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:33 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@ip-207-145-94-62.nyc.megapath.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:20 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@ip-207-145-94-62.nyc.megapath.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:05 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@69.182.217.110] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:09 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@69.182.217.110] has quit [Client Quit] 06:09 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@69.182.217.110] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:36 -!- splicer [~foo@92.39.2.10] has quit [] 06:49 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:39 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:49 -!- ENKI-][ is now known as mymind 07:50 -!- mymind is now known as ENKI-][ 07:56 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:56 -!- memenode [~memenode@unit.memenode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:03 -!- memenode [~memenode@unit.memenode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:19 < kanzure> beep bloop 08:22 -!- mheld_ [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:22 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22 -!- mheld_ is now known as mheld 08:41 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:09 < kanzure> 'Thats a pretty depressing worst case scenario: it might be polite if more first time buyers were aware of the potential difficulties. It seems like the MakerBot is less a "3D printer kit" as "a collection of parts to get you started with endless hours of trying, and maybe failing, to build a 3D printer".' 09:10 < phryk> Mhh 09:10 < phryk> From what I've seen the 3d printers aren't currently really good... 09:11 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:12 -!- niftyzero [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:37 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:44 < kanzure> ""A novel pathway regulates memory and plasticity via SIRT1 and miR-134" 09:46 < Utopiah> phryk: tbh when I chat with friends about 3dprinters and they discover it for the first time I warn them that I had up and downs between discovering the principle (and imaginating the potential) and the actual usage 09:48 < Utopiah> it's a bit like doing an HelloWorld and thinking about AI ;) 09:48 < Utopiah> (which doesn't suggest it's impossible, just not necessarly an easy and short path) 09:49 < phryk> Yeah... 09:49 < phryk> At 26c3 there where some 3d printers... one guy gave me a whistle he'd done with it... 09:50 < phryk> I asked him "this works?" and he replied "yes, sure!". It didn't... And it felt like it could crumble if i touched it too much... 09:50 < bdesk> he should cut two grooves in it and call it an ashtray 09:50 < Utopiah> phryk: you might want to check your WeeChat/terminal encoding, most of your sentences end with "?" 09:52 < phryk> Utopiah: works everywhere else... its utf8 09:52 < phryk> ... is the utf8 char for the three dots 09:52 < Utopiah> ah ok, weird, Im suppose to handle UTF8 here too, never had problem before 09:53 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.180] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:55 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.180] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:56 < Utopiah> out of curiosity, is anybody monitoring specific pathways? maybe through SNpedia or feeds on Nature/Science/specific labs with RSS+pathway name 09:58 < phryk> So away i am 09:58 < phryk> Utopiah: could be your font... 10:26 < kanzure> phryk: what's with the "..." characters? 10:26 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:27 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:29 < phryk> it's just like a pause 10:29 < phryk> the correct form of "..." 11:01 -!- cutchyacokov [~cutchyaco@142.167.142.31] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:07 < kanzure> phryk: correct according to who? 11:07 < kanzure> just wondering 11:17 < bdesk> it has better keming 11:28 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@69.182.217.110] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:54 < phryk> kanzure: typesetters 11:55 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:02 -!- AJollyLife1 is now known as AJollyLife 12:35 -!- Alystair is now known as Aly-Zzz 12:49 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:49 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@69.182.217.110] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:55 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:32 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has quit [Quit: mheld] 14:41 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@69.182.217.110] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:04 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:13 < kanzure> uh what should i do if i become executive director of wta? 15:17 < bdesk> allow the audience to bring vuvuzelas to matches 15:27 < bdesk> tell a web lackey to fix the website http://humanityplus.org/learn/about-us or he will not participate in teh singularity rapture 15:30 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:42 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-187.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:42 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-93-82.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:46 < augur> i need some good projects to worki on 15:46 < augur> any suggests peeps? 15:50 < kanzure> http://www.quantabiotech.com/s-24-satellite-thermal-cycler-(thermocycler)_14.htm 15:50 < kanzure> augur: what projects are you interested in? 15:59 < bdesk> augur: scrapers for pyscholar 16:00 < augur> oh hey sorry 16:00 < augur> anything really. i love this eh 16:00 < augur> north paw, thats it 16:00 < augur> adorable thing, it is 16:01 < kanzure> bdesk: i am confused. :/ what just happened? 16:02 < bdesk> kanzure: wta first google hit is womens tennis association. and they don't allow vuvuzelas at tennis matches. 16:02 < kanzure> bdesk: http://transhumanism.org/ is WTA 16:02 < augur> BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZBZBZZZBZZZZZZZZZZBZZZZZZZZZ 16:02 < augur> UNGH 16:02 * augur hits ball 16:03 < bdesk> kanzure: then i scrolled to the thirtyeighth google page and saw it was a transhumanism thing, so i went to the website and their 'about us' link was broken 16:05 < kanzure> hah 16:05 < kanzure> do you mean this one? http://humanityplus.org/about/ 16:06 < bdesk> no the old one. 16:07 < bdesk> http://transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/hvcs/ -> about us 16:07 < bdesk> http://transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/hvcs/ -> about 16:08 < bdesk> but it seems to be an old archive so it doesn't really matter. but it has lots of google-prestige. 16:12 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:29 < kanzure> http://rationreality.com/2007/07/09/real-life-superheroes-the-other-side/ 16:29 < kanzure> with a corresponding annoying myspace page http://www.myspace.com/dalzilla 16:32 < ENKI-][> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfI60NZd1kY 16:45 -!- niftyzero [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:56 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:59 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@208-39-168-166.isp.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- nchaimov_ [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08 -!- nchaimov_ is now known as nchaimov 18:09 -!- Aly-Zzz is now known as Alystair 18:17 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:34 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:37 < genehacker> dammit don't Neil Gershenfield' 18:38 < genehacker> 's fablabs publish at least some of their work? 18:38 < genehacker> they managed to make a disposable microfluidic thermometer in south africa, and I'd really like to know how... 18:40 < kanzure> genehacker: sauce? 18:40 * kanzure spent an hour and 30min on the phone with alex lightman 18:41 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@ip-207-145-94-62.nyc.megapath.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:41 < genehacker> web.media.mit.edu/~manup/cv.pdf 18:41 < genehacker> but heard about it from neil gershenfield's presentation to the association of professional model makers 18:43 < genehacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0s-l3fZyUs&feature=related at 1:08 18:43 < genehacker> apparently they did it with a sign cutter 18:47 < kanzure> does anyone have information on exubera, inhaled insulin, or MannKind or who is the major financial backer of MannKind? 18:48 < kanzure> this company has a few hundred million dollars? http://www.mannkindcorp.com/ hm.. 18:49 < kanzure> afrezza? 18:51 < kanzure> oh my: http://www.mannkindcorp.com/uploadedFiles/MannKind/Rip-Off%20Report.com%20postings.pdf 18:58 -!- klafka [~klafka@96.237.134.190] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:01 < kanzure> http://www.thefreelibrary.com/MannKind+Corporation+Announces+$175+Million+Private+Financing.-a0134778324 19:04 < kanzure> probably a better link to that press release: http://www.investors.mannkindcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=147953&p=irol-newsArticle_print&ID=771595&highlight= 19:05 < kanzure> er, wait 19:06 < kanzure> i guess i meant this: http://www.news.mannkindcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=147953&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=739059&highlight= 19:06 < kanzure> the investor is cuban. any ideas on his name? 19:07 < bdesk> 'leading institutional investors' 19:07 -!- klafka [~klafka@96.237.134.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:09 < kanzure> if you had a billion dollars, why would you live in cuba? 19:10 < bdesk> i've heard that the super wealthy don't 'live' anywhere, at least not in the same sense as normal people do. 19:10 < kanzure> sure 19:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-71-174-138-224.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:13 < kanzure> well this is useless: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_The-Worlds-Billionaires_CountryOfCitizen.html 19:13 < kanzure> cuba ain't on that list 19:24 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29 < genehacker> former cuban 19:43 < JayDugger> kanzure, did Alex Lightman introduce you at the H+ conference earlier this year? 19:45 < JayDugger> Ha! Wikipedia claims "He has published and spoken about the case for US trusteeship of the moon and space, and debated future issues before large live audiences, such as "who owns Mars" with both the founder of the Mars Society and a United Nations spokesperson." 19:54 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:01 < JayDugger> Open Science Summit stream: http://fora.tv/live/open_science/open_science_summit_2010, starts on 30 July 2010. 20:39 < kanzure> i will be talking at open science summit on thursday 20:40 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 20:41 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:43 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 20:45 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:49 < AJollyLife> man, there are so many blog posts/comments regarding the recent NYT cryonics article 20:49 < kanzure> liiiinks 20:50 < AJollyLife> give me a second 20:51 < AJollyLife> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/magazine/11cryonics-t.html 20:51 < AJollyLife> http://www.depressedmetabolism.com/is-that-what-love-is-the-hostile-wife-phenomenon-in-cryonics/ 20:51 < AJollyLife> http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/07/why-pick-on-cryonics.html 20:51 < AJollyLife> http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/07/modern-male-sati.html 20:51 < AJollyLife> http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2010/07/new-york-times-features-robin-hanson-and-the-hostile-wife-phenomenon-in-cryonics/ 20:51 < kanzure> thx 20:52 < kanzure> any commentary o the links would be hawt too 20:52 < kanzure> or insightful/interesting tidbits 20:52 < kanzure> *on 20:52 < AJollyLife> i've got a bunch, but my notes are on my netbook, ill have to dig it out tomorrow 20:53 < AJollyLife> theres a split in the comments, most in the community seem to care more about fixing the problem, elsewhere the focus has been on political correctness/feminist angles 20:53 < bkero> You guys use amazon prime at all? 20:54 < kanzure> no, but elevenarms does 20:54 < AJollyLife> the depressed metabolism article is the first one, the nyt is recent, but based off the depressed oe 20:54 < AJollyLife> bkero: yeah. did you see you get a free prime subscription with an edu address? 20:54 < bkero> AJollyLife: I was going to post that here if it hasn't been already. 20:54 < AJollyLife> i dont think its been posted here yet, i just follow a bunch of deal sites 20:55 < kanzure> it has not 20:55 < kanzure> liiiinkkssss 20:56 < AJollyLife> also more discussion of the dp article - http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24233 21:01 < AJollyLife> heh. also hit gizmodo 21:01 < AJollyLife> http://gizmodo.com/5583220/the-wives-of-the-cryogenically-frozen 21:03 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-71-174-138-224.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-71-174-132-156.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:13 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:15 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@ip-207-145-94-62.nyc.megapath.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:33 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:02 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-71-174-132-156.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-71-184-179-162.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:09 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-71-184-179-162.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:32 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:55 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Jul 13 00:00:17 2010