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06:58 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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07:14 < l-fy> ehlo
07:14 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
07:14 < l-fy> morning
07:14 < l-fy> what it's hplus all about?
07:15 < JayDugger> I apologize for an answer that boils down to RTFM, but I have errands to run--forgive me.
07:15 < JayDugger> Did you watch the videos at the links in channel greeting?
07:15 < l-fy> JayDugger: as stupid as it sounds i have no idea where to start on
07:15 < l-fy> no, since gstream it's stupid enough to play a flash
07:15 < JayDugger> No worries, everyone begins in ignorance.
07:15 < l-fy> i have gnash and gstream
07:16 < JayDugger> Ah...
07:16 < l-fy> so a website will be nice for rtfm :)
07:16 < JayDugger> since the videos are off line, let me check the links at hand.
07:16 < JayDugger> brb
07:16  * l-fy it's a small, scared blonde in a big big world
07:17 < JayDugger> http://gnusha.org/
07:19 < JayDugger> http://delicious.com/jay.dugger/hplus
07:19 < Utopiah> JayDugger: do you backup your delicious data?
07:21 < l-fy> i got here because i'm looking for Bryan Bishop
07:21 < l-fy> hey Utopiah 
07:21 < l-fy> how are you?
07:21 < Utopiah> welcome l-fy , how are you and what are you doing in this weird channel? ;)
07:22 < JayDugger> http://fabien.benetou.fr/
07:22 < l-fy> trying to figure out what it's all about
07:22 < Utopiah> (I hope it's not my secret stalker)
07:22 < JayDugger> http://superkuh.ath.cx/
07:22 < l-fy> but you know that i'm slow
07:22 < JayDugger> No worries.
07:23 < Utopiah> l-fy: H+ is being yourself, just a better version.
07:23 < Utopiah> (and helping others to do so too)
07:24 < JayDugger> Here at slideshare.net you can find many of slides from a recent conference, l-fy.
07:24 < JayDugger> http://www.slideshare.net/humanityplus
07:25 < JayDugger> And now, back to sorting clothes for Goodwill.
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07:45 < l-fy> anything to do with the h+ magasine?
07:45 < Utopiah> on the topic yes, as official links, no
07:45 < l-fy> a right
07:46 < l-fy> stupid people
07:46 < l-fy> they don't understand that god it's in all
07:46 < Utopiah> ?
07:46 < l-fy> </end of irony>
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07:47 < Utopiah> tbh Im not a fan of god jokes
07:47 < Utopiah> it's begging for misunderstanding
08:14 < drazak> ah fuck god
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09:30 < Utopiah> OSS2010 stream up again, no pannel up yet
09:30 < Utopiah> http://fora.tv/live/open_science/open_science_summit_2010
09:38 < Utopiah> JayDugger: https://secure.delicious.com/settings/bookmarks/export
09:38 < Utopiah> (and it nows include tags and notes)
09:40 < kanzure> huh? the stream is up?
09:40 < kanzure> i guess i should head over there
09:41 < Utopiah> it's starting now
09:42 < kanzure> yeah but it's just drew endy ors omething
09:44 < Utopiah> joseph jackson
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11:33 < Utopiah> kanzure: out of curiosity, ~how many person are in the room?
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12:04 < fenn> yo from open science summit
12:05 < Utopiah> hi fenn 
12:06 < Utopiah>  ~how many person are in the room?
12:09 < drazak> people?
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12:17 < fenn> i'd guess ~120
12:21 < fenn> kanzure are you transcribing? :P
12:24 < Utopiah> thanks
12:24 < Utopiah> he was yesterday then had a break, today, no idea
12:25 < Utopiah> http://gnusha.org/open-science-summit-2010-transcript.html
12:28 < fenn> i hear loud bleeping noises coming from his laptop
12:28 < kanzure> fenn: no, i've been having laptop troubles
12:28 < kanzure> yeah :(
12:28 < kanzure> how the hell do i stop this
12:28 < kanzure> setterm -blength 0 and xset b 0 doesn't stop it
12:29 < kanzure> on a related note, my xorg.conf is incompatible with 2.6.32?
12:29 < fenn> in the bios i guess
12:29 < fenn> it's on startup right?
12:30 < fenn> eh well, the current talks are kinda lame
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12:30 < Utopiah> I like IP questions
12:30 < kanzure> i would like the references to where all these quotes are coming from
12:30 < kanzure> that would be mildly useful
12:35  * fenn mumbles something about getting a screen session somewhere
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12:36 < fenn> meh ok that works
12:36 < kanzure> hrm
12:36 < kanzure> how about gnusha.org
12:36 < kanzure> should i be doing transcripts?
12:37 < fenn> isnt that your schtick?
12:37 < kanzure> once you stop you realize how nice it is to not constantly be typing
12:38 < drazak> constantly fyping?
12:38 < drazak> fucking home keys
12:39 < drazak> constantly typing? I wouldn't notice unless there was a sound
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12:41 < fenn> what's the current speaker?
12:41 < kanzure> drazak: "i wouldn't notice unless there was a sound" uh?
12:41 < kanzure> fenn: misha
12:41 < kanzure> misha angrist
12:41 < drazak> kanzure: typing, I barely notice I'm doing it
12:42 < kanzure> drazak: i kind of doubt you go for 15,000 word sprints
12:42 < fenn> derr, i should have known that
12:42 < kanzure> http://opensciencesummit.com/schedule/
12:42 < fenn> yeah i have that open
12:42 < drazak> kanzure: depends on the day
12:42  * fenn hunts for some food
12:42 < drazak> I've been known to type for 3 or 4 hours straight
12:43 < kanzure> fenn: there's good sandwhiches in the back
12:43 < kanzure> oh there you are
12:44 < drazak> haha
12:50 < kanzure> http://oss2010.backchan.nl/meetings/view/207
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13:04 < kanzure> taxpayeraccess.org
13:04 < kanzure> http://taxpayeraccess.org/
13:11 < kanzure> fenn will you watch my laptop?
13:18  * superkuh sent a message to his representative.
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13:37 < kanzure> it's weird when the FBI special agent says "oh you're THE bryan bishop"
13:43 < drazak> and why are they talking to THE bryan bishop?
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14:22 < fenn> haha
14:22 < fenn> i didnt realize ed you was actually a scientist
14:22 < fenn> or was 10 years ago at least
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14:23 < fenn> talked to jacob schiach in the hallway, he seemed a little lost
14:32 < kanzure> michael nielsen's talk: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/michael-nielsen-reinventing-discovery.html
14:33 < kanzure> fenn: have you heard how mac pronounces jacob's name? he pronounces it as "sheeyah!" (with the exclamation point)
14:34 < fenn> does he do a kung-fu kick?
14:35 < kanzure> yes but it's so fast you can't see it
14:35 < kanzure> at least with human eyes
14:35 < kanzure> also, wtf is michael vassar talking about?
14:36 < fenn> nfc
14:36 < kanzure> i talked with him at singularity summit 2009 about innovation and frankly he just seemed incompetent
14:37 < kanzure> what just happened?
14:37 < fenn> he fubared
14:37 < kanzure> i talked with jorge hirsch earlier.. kind guy
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14:51 < kanzure> michael nielsen is writing an "open source science" manifesto? hrm
14:56 < jrayhawk> Steve would be in a better position to answer questions about Michael Vassar than anyone in here, FWIW.
14:56 < Utopiah> (I precisely just missed the 2 pannels I wanted to see... damn guests, hope the recordings will really  be available and soon)
15:13 < kanzure> Utopiah: in most cases i've found that the recordings do not become available
15:14 < kanzure> where's the damn hplus-summit-2010 videos
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15:14 < Utopiah> kanzure: (naive comment) but they promised it! 
15:16 < superkuh> It would be funny if the 'Open' summit itself was not open.
15:18 < kanzure> should i do a transcript of the microfunding stuff?
15:18 < kanzure> superkuh: there's a fee to attend, but honestly people can just walk in
15:20 < superkuh> And there is the free streaming. I suppose a prepared individual could rip this. Regardless, there is so much talk about making explicit efforts to make information available that I still see irony.
15:21 < kanzure> i wonder what codec it's being streamed with
15:21 < Utopiah> superkuh: efforts to make information available are countered by platforms trying to capture value (a la Google, Apple, RealNetwork, etc)
15:22 < Utopiah> (and in science Nature, Science, Elsevier, Springer)
15:22 < kanzure> hey is tom from backyard brains here?
15:23  * kanzure is looking over http://www.mendeley.com/oapi/methods/
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15:25 < fenn> "is tom from backyard brains here?" no, and his name's tim
15:25 < fenn> at least i havent seen him
15:26 < kanzure> tim
15:26 < kanzure> s/tom/tim/ you saw nothing
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15:26 < kanzure> hi genehacker 
15:27 < genehacker> hello
15:27 < genehacker> designfiles is down
15:27 < fenn> "we're funding them but we're not actually funding them"
15:28 < genehacker> or is it?
15:28 < genehacker> hmmm
15:28 < fenn> genehacker: there's a big shitstorm over a dmca takedown request, the university confiscated the computer
15:28 < genehacker> fuck I was just about to make that joke
15:29 < fenn> kanzure: is there a free spot over there to plug in?
15:29 < genehacker> they're shutting them down because they're shutting down the power to the whole building
15:29 < kanzure> yes but i'd have to point at it
15:29 < genehacker> was there really a DMCA take down request?
15:30 < kanzure> yes
15:30 < genehacker> when?
15:30 < genehacker> by whom?
15:30 < kanzure> two days ago
15:30 < kanzure> by vincent gingery
15:31 < genehacker> and why do they have to shut down the power to the whole building to remove those servers
15:31 < Utopiah> (recordings should really  become available somehow someday https://twitter.com/OpenScience2010/status/19941734574 )
15:32 < genehacker> shoot hope gingery doesn't sue you
15:45 < kanzure> " OrthoNormalRuss
15:45 < kanzure>   
15:45 < kanzure> #sciflies interface modeled on dating service logic? Ratings, eh? Which service as model, Hot or Not? "Autism symptomology: HOT!" #oss2010 "
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16:07 < kanzure> i'm not able to hear any of this
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16:15 < kanzure> microfinancing Q&A http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/microfinancing-questions.html
16:15 < kanzure> although i can't hear much
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16:28 < nsh> kanzure, what happen?
16:28 < nsh> someone set us up the copybomb?
16:28 < nsh> main explain go on!
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16:52 < kanzure> jason bobe: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/jason-bobe.html
16:53 < kanzure> mydaughtersgenome.com http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/mydaughtersgenome.html
16:53 < kanzure> mac cowell: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/mac-cowell.html
16:54 < Utopiah> what's the point of doing a talk if it's to display a Vimeo video... boring
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16:59 < kanzure> i'm kind of disappointed
16:59 < kanzure> these presentations on diybio are pretty poor
16:59 < kanzure> meredith is reading from http://maradydd.livejournal.com/496085.html
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17:12 < kanzure> ray mccaulley: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/raymond-mccauley.html
17:13 < kanzure> "a web app for connecting wealthy patrons with cool projects" .. sounds like sugar daddy dating
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17:17 < Utopiah> "17:17 techblob : wtg kanzure - good work! haha"
17:22 < jk4930> kanzure: could we use jailbaits for getting patrons to finance important stuff? ;)
17:32 < fenn> i wanted to ask her to elaborate on 'we reject the precautionary principle'
17:32 < fenn> but q&a ran out of time
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17:35 < fenn> what is BIOFAB?
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18:18 < kanzure> fenn: BIOFAB is drew endy's gig
18:20 < kanzure> diybio Q&A session http://bit.ly/9OCKor
18:20 < kanzure> er wait
18:20 < kanzure> yeah that's it
18:20 < kanzure> christine peterson on biosecurity http://bit.ly/9m2iPv
18:20 < kanzure> ed you (fbi) http://bit.ly/9GaSoR
18:20 < kanzure> len sassaman http://bit.ly/cPMx0h
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18:42 < fenn> some twit tweet this plz http://www.flickr.com/photos/fennfoot/sets/72157624494534741/
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23:49 < fenn> so i was kinda bored at open science summit, don't think i'll be going there tomorrow
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23:54 < JayDugger> Fair enoug.
23:54 < JayDugger> Fair enough.
23:54 < JayDugger> You can best judge the good use of your own time.
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