--- Log opened Mon Aug 02 00:00:17 2010 --- Log opened Mon Aug 02 00:00:26 2010 --- Log opened Mon Aug 02 00:00:43 2010 00:50 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:51 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 00:51 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:04 -!- SeH_ [~SeH_2@c-71-61-176-250.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:09 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:32 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:35 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:45 -!- nsh [~nsh@87.112.112.141.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:25 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 03:41 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@12.97.18.2] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:05 -!- nsh [~nsh@87.112.112.141.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:07 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558760.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:27 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:29 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:37 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:38 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: drazak, kanzure 04:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: drazak 04:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kanzure 04:42 -!- nsh [~nsh@87.112.112.141.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:48 -!- ybit [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:48 < ybit> ping anyone who has access to http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120754246/abstract 05:53 < ybit> ping to anyone* 06:04 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:43 < ybit> hi eridu 06:43 < eridu> ybit: hello 06:43 < ybit> i'm curious who you are 06:44 < eridu> ybit: why? 06:44 < ybit> i'm not sure what prompted me 06:45 < eridu> I am probably not someone you know or are aware of, if that's what you're wondering. 06:46 < ybit> eridu: what are your main interests? 06:46 < eridu> ybit: anarchism, software freedom, and transhumanism, not in any order 06:47 < ybit> yay 06:47 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:47 < ybit> they are in alphebetical order btw :) 06:48 < eridu> heh. 06:48 < ybit> hi klafka 06:48 < ybit> if anyone has access to http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120754246/abstract i would appreciate a copy 06:49 < eridu> ybit: msg me your email 06:50 < ybit> eridu: heathmatlock@gmail.com 06:51 < klafka> hey 06:51 < ybit> hi :) 06:51 < ybit> you and drazak are ~3 hours apart right? 06:57 -!- splicer [~Patrik@92.39.2.13] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 06:57 -!- splicer [~Patrik@92.39.2.13] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 06:57 < klafka> maybe, where is he? 07:03 < drazak> ? 07:03 < drazak> I'm east coast 07:03 < drazak> oh 07:03 < drazak> klafka is 1 hour by car 07:04 < klafka> so buffalo or syracuse or something? 07:05 < drazak> west of you, yes 07:05 < klafka> aah 07:05 < klafka> ok 07:08 < ybit> was on the phone, i'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before :) 07:08 < klafka> aah 07:12 < ybit> there isn't a way to get in touch with katsmeow 07:12 < ybit> hrm.. there's bound to be a way to social engineer my way around this... 07:13 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:27 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 07:48 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@12.97.18.2] has quit [] 07:56 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:57 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:06 < bkero> hun 08:07 < kanzure> ? 08:07 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558760.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has quit [Quit: mheld] 08:20 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:28 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:32 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:33 < kanzure> "And so the research goes on, millions more dollars are poured in to deathhacking startups by rich-mortal-and-terrified benefactors, dozens more books are published on the subject and every day countless startup founders jump into their Teslas and speed to their “doctors” to pick up the latest batch of pills that they hope will keep them around until someone figures this shit out. And why not?" 08:33 < kanzure> "And so the research goes on, millions more dollars are poured in to deathhacking startups by rich-mortal-and-terrified benefactors, dozens more books are published on the subject and every day countless startup founders jump into their Teslas and speed to their "doctors" to pick up the latest batch of pills that they hope will keep them around until someone figures this shit out. And why not?" 08:33 < kanzure> http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/01/what-kills-us-makes-us-stronger/ 08:35 < kanzure> oh it's the typical "but then people will wait forever to get anything done" argument 08:35 < kanzure> yawn 08:35 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:43 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:47 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:49 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 08:57 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:57 < kanzure> 84795 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16958.973 FPS 08:57 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has quit [Client Quit] 08:58 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Aug 02 08:59:28 2010 08:59 -!- gnusha__ [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:01 < killall-9> /. 09:01 < kanzure> jrayhawk: do you have any hints as to where gnusha_ is running on the server? 09:02 < kanzure> they are clogging the logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-08-01.log 09:03 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:22 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host86-163-25-140.range86-163.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:29 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host86-163-25-140.range86-163.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:32 < kanzure> Utopiah: are you in #hackers-india on oftc? 09:35 < Utopiah> I hope not else I have a serious personality disorder 09:38 -!- user__ [~chatzilla@78-2-134-127.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:39 < Utopiah> (short answer: no) 09:41 -!- user__ [~chatzilla@78-2-134-127.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Client Quit] 09:43 < l-fy> hmmm 09:44 < kanzure> hi l-fy 09:54 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:06 < kanzure> http://pp3dp.com/ personal portable 3d printer from china.. some of the stuff on the front page is from thingiverse 10:06 < kanzure> $1500 10:07 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:25 < kanzure> looking through the commit logs for meetlog.txt i'm starting to see large chunks of data being randomly deleted at a time 10:25 < kanzure> mostly in chunks of 50 lines or so 10:26 < kanzure> for instance, 2010-06-17 was deleted 10:32 < kanzure> Biotech movement hopes to spur the rise of citizen scientists http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/08/02/biotech_movement_hopes_to_spur_rise_of_citizen_scientists/ 10:35 < kanzure> Regulators take aim at genomics (Sonia Arrison on 23andme/FDA) http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70499.html 10:58 < kanzure> heh the collabrx guy wrote a long comment here: http://singularityhub.com/2010/07/30/open-science-summit-2010-%E2%80%93-thursday-review/# 10:58 < kanzure> "Really small projects can be lead and managed by sole investigators, but just because amateur astronomers can spot comets in our solar system (as one person gave at some point as a dumb analogy to open science) doesn’t mean that everyone on earth with a 3 inch telescope will be able to do what the Hubble does!" 10:58 < kanzure> "Really small projects can be lead and managed by sole investigators, but just because amateur astronomers can spot comets in our solar system (as one person gave at some point as a dumb analogy to open science) doesn't mean that everyone on earth with a 3 inch telescope will be able to do what the Hubble does!" 10:58 < kanzure> "No one’s 3 inch telescope can do that. (And no, you can’t just wire them all together to make a giant distributed telescope bigger and better than the Hubble — Nice try!" 10:58 < kanzure> "No one's 3 inch telescope can do that. (And no, you can't just wire them all together to make a giant distributed telescope bigger and better than the Hubble -- Nice try!" 11:00 < nsh> meh 11:06 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 11:07 < killall-9> not all projects are so expensive 11:08 < killall-9> nitrogen cooled receivers to build a synthetic aperture radiotelescope are within the technical and financial capabilities of groups of amateurs 11:09 < killall-9> i have to admit the images are not as impressive as the (well choosen) false color images from Hubble 11:14 < Utopiah> ( OSCON 2010: Melanie Swan, "DIY Genomics: An Open Platform for Citizen Science" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQh4kcX-gGU July 31, 2010 ) 11:25 < kanzure> ah so that's why she wasn't at open science summit 11:29 < fenn> china certainly upped the ante for makerbot 11:32 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- ENKI-][ is now known as SeventeenTwentyt 11:35 -!- SeventeenTwentyt is now known as ENKI-][ 11:44 < kanzure> http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/rms-ama.html 11:44 < kanzure> RMS pimping for more CAD development work 11:57 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has left #hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 11:58 < eridu> RMS's misunderstanding of anarchism is saddening 12:03 < fenn> bleh, not autocad please 12:03 < fenn> pro-engineer ftw 12:05 < kanzure> house hearing on open access for science literature http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/07/house-hearing-explores-debate.html?etoc=&sms_ss=email 12:07 < kanzure> fenn: have you used Pro/E? 12:07 < fenn> no 12:41 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:42 -!- nsh [~nsh@87.112.112.141.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:43 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:50 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] --- Log closed Mon Aug 02 12:50:20 2010 --- Log opened Mon Aug 02 12:50:20 2010 --- Log closed Mon Aug 02 12:50:20 2010 --- Log closed Mon Aug 02 12:50:40 2010 --- Log opened Mon Aug 02 12:50:40 2010 --- Log closed Mon Aug 02 12:50:40 2010 --- Log opened Mon Aug 02 12:52:10 2010 12:53 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:53 -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ http://heybryan.org/ 12:53 -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Mon Jan 11 11:14:52 2010] 12:53 [Users #hplusroadmap] 12:53 [ Alystair] [ ENKI-][ ] [ jrayhawk ] [ mage2 ] [ Overand ] [ superkuh ] 12:53 [ augur ] [ eridu ] [ Juul ] [ masked ] [ pasky ] [ ToyKeeper ] 12:53 [ bkero ] [ fenn ] [ kanzure ] [ memenode ] [ patrickmclaren] [ uniqanomaly] 12:53 [ CIA-50 ] [ ghchinoy ] [ kardan ] [ mheld ] [ Phreedom ] [ Utopiah ] 12:53 [ clemux ] [ gnusha ] [ kive ] [ nchaimov ] [ phryk ] [ ybit ] 12:53 [ clever ] [ guibou ] [ klafka ] [ niftyzero] [ QuantumG ] 12:53 [ drazak ] [ Ian_Daniher] [ kristianpaul] [ nima ] [ shepazu ] 12:53 [ egeste ] [ jcluck ] [ l-fy ] [ nsh_ ] [ splicer ] 12:53 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 45 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 45 normal] 12:53 -!- Channel #hplusroadmap created Fri Jan 29 23:48:24 2010 12:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #hplusroadmap was synced in 1 secs 12:55 < kanzure> heh you probably just killed the server 12:56 -!- vsrinivas [~me@rose.makesad.us] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:56 < vsrinivas> hi! 12:58 < kanzure> hi vsi 12:58 < kanzure> er 12:58 < kanzure> vsrinivas: 12:59 < jrayhawk> What's the command I *should* be using to start up logging? 12:59 < jrayhawk> You've got all this config boilerplate in .irssi that I don't know how to invoke. 13:00 < kanzure> uh 13:00 < kanzure> i've been "doing it wrong" 13:02 < gnusha> Someday one of us should look into how to make join and logging happen automatically. 13:03 < jrayhawk> oh no wait, I guess it is? 13:03 < kanzure> i just set up an irssi session and set it to log to gnusha:/home/gnusha/public_html/logs/%Y-%m-%d.log 13:04 < Utopiah> jrayhawk: to tweak the logging try /set log 13:05 < jrayhawk> So it's just the automatic channel join that needs implementing. 13:06 < Utopiah> http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3 13:11 < vsrinivas> anyone read 'life from an rna world'? 13:12 < kanzure> by ellington? 13:13 < vsrinivas> no, michael yarus 13:21 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558760.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:27 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558982.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:33 -!- ybit [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ybit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35 -!- ybit [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:39 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has left #hplusroadmap ["http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? 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Seems to work. 14:15 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32 < kanzure> "But the supremely important person in anyone's life is himself -- and a politician must never forget that." eek heinlein 14:55 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:06 < kanzure> out of context that quote sounds much less worse.. but it was meant as in "but the supremely important person in everyone else's life is himself -- and a politician must never forget that." 15:06 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:08 < uniqanomaly_> kanzure context was perhaps unpopular decisions? 15:09 < uniqanomaly_> hmm, i have google, don't i 15:11 < uniqanomaly_> Farleyfile! 15:19 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:22 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:24 < jrayhawk> Heinlein went through a pretty big shift from heavy authoritarianism to heavy libertarianism between 1955 and 1965, so it's easy to paint him in whatever light you don't like. 15:25 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:26 < kanzure> jrayhawk: well, that quote was just one of the characters saying stuff 15:27 < kanzure> it's just an interesting-but-painful realization of how some people think (like politicians) 15:27 < jrayhawk> Ah, okay. 15:27 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:28 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:31 -!- splicer_ [~Splicer@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:32 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:33 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- ybit [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:37 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:38 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:39 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:41 -!- ybit [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:30 < kanzure> humanity+ needs another candidate for the board 16:30 < kanzure> anyone want the spot? 16:31 < QuantumG> I'm already bored 16:31 < kanzure> you'd be perfect 16:34 < bkero> yarrr 16:35 < kanzure> bkero: do you have some form of transportation 16:36 < bkero> kanzure: I don't, sorry. 16:36 < bkero> I'm on foot this summer. 16:37 < bkero> I'm at the Mozilla office if you'd like a tour though. 16:46 -!- ybit [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ybit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 17:25 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:10 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:12 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 18:13 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:14 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:16 < QuantumG> how can people deny progress? 18:17 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:17 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:17 -!- splicer_ [~Splicer@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 18:17 < Utopiah> because it's challenging their power? 18:20 < QuantumG> "If the idea of progress does die in the West, so will a great deal else that we have long cherished in this civilization" - Robert A. Nisbet. 18:27 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:37 -!- enkiam [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:40 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:50 * fenn rides across town 19:02 -!- davemenninger [~davemenni@www.hive13.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:02 < davemenninger> anyone going to the mars socieety convention in dayton this week? 19:03 < davemenninger> i'm talking with a guy that is really interested in 3d printing on mars 19:03 < davemenninger> i thought it sounded like something openmanufacturing people would be into 19:03 < davemenninger> i will probably be there saturday with a makerbot 19:05 -!- AJollyLife [~Jolly@unaffiliated/ajollylife] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:06 -!- enkiam [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:07 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:07 < QuantumG> is it this week? 19:08 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:11 < QuantumG> are you going dave? 19:13 < davemenninger> i'll be there on saturday only 19:13 < davemenninger> http://groups.google.com/group/southwest-ohio-reprap/browse_thread/thread/a448e5739da8e21b 19:13 < davemenninger> bruce mackenzie is the guy's name 19:13 < QuantumG> any chance you could get some video from the event? 19:14 < davemenninger> he talked as though he had heard of openmanufacturing.net but wasn't very familiar with it 19:14 < davemenninger> i could try - i just have a crappy g1 for a video recorder 19:14 < QuantumG> that'd be awesome.. anything is better than nothing. 19:30 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:44 < bkero> kanzure: hoe goes? 19:49 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:50 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:57 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:03 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 20:09 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-72-231-169-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-72-231-169-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:12 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-72-231-169-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20 < kanzure> fenn: 1h 30min to bike back? 20:22 < QuantumG> random idea: 3d printing of plastic forms that snap onto LEGO 20:23 < QuantumG> so you can build whatever out of Lego and then make it look pretty by putting a shell on it. 20:43 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:49 -!- genehacker_ [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:51 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:51 -!- genehacker_ is now known as genehacker 21:00 < QuantumG> http://quantumg.net/cmrobot.jpg 21:00 < QuantumG> free stuff 21:08 < genehacker> oh wow 21:08 < genehacker> someone just broke recaptcha 21:11 < QuantumG> broke or solved? 21:14 < genehacker> broke 21:14 < genehacker> you listen to sound then type in ten random words 21:14 < QuantumG> haha 21:14 < genehacker> it's unbelievable 21:14 < genehacker> WHO WANTS SPAM? 21:15 < QuantumG> I guess no-one ever tested it? 21:16 < genehacker> hmmm... now what uses recaptcha 21:16 < genehacker> isn't that what you use to make google accounts? 21:19 < QuantumG> "Did you hear that Jim got kicked out of the ham club?" "Really, what for?" "He shaved off his beard." 21:20 < genehacker> never heard that one... 21:20 < genehacker> also what would you do with 4 old robotic arms? 21:21 < QuantumG> robotic Indian god of some sort? 21:22 < genehacker> did I mention they are old, for educational purposes, and in semioperating condition? 21:29 < kanzure> how much do they cost 21:32 < genehacker> what the arms? 21:32 < kanzure> yes 21:32 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:33 < genehacker> they were free 21:33 < genehacker> educational robots that weren't being used 21:34 < genehacker> some professor who's a friend of the robotics club here couldn't stand letting them go to waste 21:34 < kanzure> do you have them? 21:34 < genehacker> he's one of our cruft suppliers 21:35 < genehacker> they're property of RAS 21:36 < genehacker> do you have any use for them? 21:37 < genehacker> besides demonstration robot, telerobot, drink dispenser, or ironman soldering bench? 21:51 < QuantumG> honestly, I'd be just doing experiments with teleoperation with it 21:54 < genehacker> well first we need to get them working 22:02 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:02 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:12 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:52 < QuantumG> kanzure 22:52 < QuantumG> you around? 22:54 < QuantumG> apparently Dan Barry did a talk on the future of robotics last year. He showed the Big Dog clip.. the standard one where they kick it to demonstrate that dynamic stability. 22:54 < QuantumG> the audience indicated that they thought this was "cruel" 22:55 < QuantumG> ... I think this says something about the calibre of Singularity University students. 22:55 < QuantumG> or at least the ones in that lecture. 22:57 < QuantumG> Kicking a robot, no matter how anthropomorphic it makes you feel, has the same moral importance as kicking a tractor. Get a fuckin' grip people. 22:57 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:11 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37 -!- patrik [~Patrik@92.39.2.9] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:37 -!- patrik is now known as splicer 23:54 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558982.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:54 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Aug 03 00:00:17 2010